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September 17, 2014, 03:11:13 PM
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hey guys apologies for the lack of knowledge, but am i reading correctly when i read about Privactservers? will BTCD now be centralized ard rely on Privacy Servers to be anon (VPS) ?

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September 17, 2014, 03:16:04 PM
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If anyone can run a PrivacyServer, how can that be centralized?
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September 17, 2014, 03:20:06 PM
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hey guys apologies for the lack of knowledge, but am i reading correctly when i read about Privactservers? will BTCD now be centralized ard rely on Privacy Servers to be anon (VPS) ?

No nothing would be centralized. I think it is to offset the thoughts in this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684090.msg8849528#msg8849528

If it's possible to disable it for a lite version, IE, people don't have or don't want to use additional bandwidth then these additional privacyServer would pick up some of this slack.

Just my understanding.. perhaps it's not entirely accurate but James will elaborate.

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September 17, 2014, 05:51:37 PM
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Anyone mining this?

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September 17, 2014, 05:52:21 PM
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Anyone mining this?

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September 17, 2014, 06:02:18 PM
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hey guys apologies for the lack of knowledge, but am i reading correctly when i read about Privactservers? will BTCD now be centralized ard rely on Privacy Servers to be anon (VPS) ?
every node has a privacyserver built in
i came up with a way to shield your IP address from even your privacy server

however, there need to be some public privacyservers so the network can bootstrap
that means the public privacyservers need to publish their IP address so that other nodes can contact them and through them the rest of SuperNET.

anyone is free to publish their privacyserver's IP address, but if you are using a localhost loopback privacyserver you are publishing your IP address. Granted it is liked to a separate privacyserver account, but I think some timing analysis of the message broadcasts would allow for an attacker to correlate your privacyserver account to your internal account


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September 17, 2014, 06:03:41 PM
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Would the community be willing to run 100+ privacyServer VPS?
P.S. we can certainly start with a smaller number like 10 and see how it handles the load.

Whatever is necessary. A lot of hosting companies offer a free trial. What are the minimum requirements (CPU, RAM) and how long do you need them (3 days, 2 weeks, 1 month)?
CPU is not so important, the bandwidth would probably be the most important and this is dependent on the number of nodes. it would be an indefinite need assuming it works. These nodes could also be sources for aged telepods and other handy things to have a community run set of servers that is not tied to any specific person

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I can provide a VPS worth ~$100 month. Unsure how many privacyServer would be able to run on it but willing to load it up.
Thanks!
each privacy server needs a separate IP address, run BTCD daemon and NXT. Having a few other coin daemons would be nice too, but different privacyservers can run different coin daemons

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September 17, 2014, 06:39:41 PM
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Would the community be willing to run 100+ privacyServer VPS?
P.S. we can certainly start with a smaller number like 10 and see how it handles the load.

Whatever is necessary. A lot of hosting companies offer a free trial. What are the minimum requirements (CPU, RAM) and how long do you need them (3 days, 2 weeks, 1 month)?
CPU is not so important, the bandwidth would probably be the most important and this is dependent on the number of nodes. it would be an indefinite need assuming it works. These nodes could also be sources for aged telepods and other handy things to have a community run set of servers that is not tied to any specific person

James

I can provide a VPS worth ~$100 month. Unsure how many privacyServer would be able to run on it but willing to load it up.
Thanks!
each privacy server needs a separate IP address, run BTCD daemon and NXT. Having a few other coin daemons would be nice too, but different privacyservers can run different coin daemons

Hey how soon do you want the Privacy servers up ? Can you provide a list of components required and i will whip up a puppet deployment.
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September 17, 2014, 06:41:46 PM
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Just run a BTCD node
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September 17, 2014, 06:42:47 PM
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Just run a BTCD node

there was mention of nxt client and a couple other coin dameon's.
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September 17, 2014, 06:46:10 PM
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Please stop your scammer crews from going to our thread. Thanks

please stop posting in this thread. Thanks.
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September 17, 2014, 07:21:59 PM
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Would the community be willing to run 100+ privacyServer VPS?
P.S. we can certainly start with a smaller number like 10 and see how it handles the load.

Whatever is necessary. A lot of hosting companies offer a free trial. What are the minimum requirements (CPU, RAM) and how long do you need them (3 days, 2 weeks, 1 month)?
CPU is not so important, the bandwidth would probably be the most important and this is dependent on the number of nodes. it would be an indefinite need assuming it works. These nodes could also be sources for aged telepods and other handy things to have a community run set of servers that is not tied to any specific person

James

I can provide a VPS worth ~$100 month. Unsure how many privacyServer would be able to run on it but willing to load it up.
Thanks!
each privacy server needs a separate IP address, run BTCD daemon and NXT. Having a few other coin daemons would be nice too, but different privacyservers can run different coin daemons

Ok. I should be able to manage 6 and maybe 7, depending on bandwidth. On separate IP's.

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September 17, 2014, 07:59:18 PM
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Would the community be willing to run 100+ privacyServer VPS?
P.S. we can certainly start with a smaller number like 10 and see how it handles the load.

Whatever is necessary. A lot of hosting companies offer a free trial. What are the minimum requirements (CPU, RAM) and how long do you need them (3 days, 2 weeks, 1 month)?
CPU is not so important, the bandwidth would probably be the most important and this is dependent on the number of nodes. it would be an indefinite need assuming it works. These nodes could also be sources for aged telepods and other handy things to have a community run set of servers that is not tied to any specific person

James

I can provide a VPS worth ~$100 month. Unsure how many privacyServer would be able to run on it but willing to load it up.
Thanks!
each privacy server needs a separate IP address, run BTCD daemon and NXT. Having a few other coin daemons would be nice too, but different privacyservers can run different coin daemons

Hey how soon do you want the Privacy servers up ? Can you provide a list of components required and i will whip up a puppet deployment.
I need to recode the new UDP routing, initially with leakage of IP address to the public privacyservers as that is much simpler. Then while that is being tested, I will test out the probabilistic routing. Concerned about the bandwidth required to converge to valid routes.

the current version is still using the TCP routing and not optimized for message synchronizing. I expect some releases from BTCDdev for a few items reasonably soon and I am coding away a much simpler low level routing today. having the 100+ public privacy servers will allow for a very solid core within the core.

you can try to make a build from https://github.com/jl777/btcd
I tried to make the instructions easy to follow

If you do run it, you need a valid jl777.conf file for it to do anything, but this is under active (dozens of commits per day) development so no guarantees about stability. If you do run it, plz just start it and stop it after it starts up. I will announce when there is a stable version for test deployment

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September 17, 2014, 08:38:40 PM
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can somebody help me please ... my wallet isn't syncro anymore

deleted all files in %APPDATA%\Roaming\BitcoinDark\  except wallet.dat and BitcoinDark.conf and start the Wallet again ... it goes till block 100675 and then stop
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September 17, 2014, 08:39:44 PM
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How will the payment of BTCD dividends work (revenues from InstantDEX, Teleport, ...) ?

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September 17, 2014, 08:41:59 PM
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can somebody help me please ... my wallet isn't syncro anymore

deleted all files in %APPDATA%\Roaming\BitcoinDark\  except wallet.dat and BitcoinDark.conf and start the Wallet again ... it goes till block 100675 and then stop

You can try it again. This time before running the wallet you can restart your computer. BTW are you running the latest version "1.0.0.0-g32a928e"?
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September 17, 2014, 08:55:39 PM
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How will the payment of BTCD dividends work (revenues from InstantDEX, Teleport, ...) ?
The BTCD address that staked will be credited with the dividend
Then there will be a mechanism to make claims for the dividend, not sure of the details yet, maybe someone wants to solve this? It is a matter of linking claim address with the address of the BTCD address that earned the dividend by staking

so scanning blockchain to find the BTCD addresses that staked (I think each block staked should have equal weight)
then each BTCD address would get a percentage of the total dividends

Separately, we need to link the above BTCD addresses to payout addresses, which would be BTC or NXT. Alternatively, we could convert all the dividends into BTCD and simply send the payments to the BTCD address. That is actually much simpler and it wont require any linking of addresses and thus losing the privacy.

Once there are dividends to share, it is a matter for calculating the allocation and then we can automatically send the dividend to each address as long as it is above a certain threshold.

I wont have the time to implement this for a while, so if anybody is up to it, then this will allow for dividends sooner rather than later

James

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September 17, 2014, 09:13:43 PM
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How will the payment of BTCD dividends work (revenues from InstantDEX, Teleport, ...) ?
The BTCD address that staked will be credited with the dividend
Then there will be a mechanism to make claims for the dividend, not sure of the details yet, maybe someone wants to solve this? It is a matter of linking claim address with the address of the BTCD address that earned the dividend by staking

so scanning blockchain to find the BTCD addresses that staked (I think each block staked should have equal weight)
then each BTCD address would get a percentage of the total dividends

Separately, we need to link the above BTCD addresses to payout addresses, which would be BTC or NXT. Alternatively, we could convert all the dividends into BTCD and simply send the payments to the BTCD address. That is actually much simpler and it wont require any linking of addresses and thus losing the privacy.

Once there are dividends to share, it is a matter for calculating the allocation and then we can automatically send the dividend to each address as long as it is above a certain threshold.

I wont have the time to implement this for a while, so if anybody is up to it, then this will allow for dividends sooner rather than later

James

This is very interesting. I think the idea to pay stakers dividends a couple of months back laid the groundwork for the whole SuperNET project. Smiley
I'd opt for BTCD payments rather than BTC or NXT. Perhaps that's not ideal, but there will be lots of small amounts flying around, and if someone isn't in BTC or NXT anyway (I know, but these people might exist) then they would simply have amounts that couldn't economically be used. The potential loss of privacy also undermines the ethos of BTCD! And converting wouldn't hurt the BTCD price either, giving it constant gentle upward pressure.
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September 17, 2014, 09:30:27 PM
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Agreed. This also has the effect of reinforcing BTCD's role in the overall picture. A very ok balance with the NXT emphasis. JMHO.
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September 17, 2014, 10:43:18 PM
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These prices are awesome. Can't wait till i get more money in.
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