bustabit.com -- The Social Gambling Game

[Ryan Dugan]

any free faucet to play?

Unfortunately not, we now require all users to deposit to play

In the past we had a faucet, but unfortunately it attracted a lot of the wrong sort of people (abusers and professional beggars) so I removed it, which had the unfortunate side effect of making it annoying for new players to try the game (wait for a deposit). So in the near future (~1 month), I'll add a small faucet (with a limited amount of claims per ip address) to assist with trying the game

I see a lot of people practicing playing on Bustabit playing on Bustaclam using Freebitcoins faucet to play.

I can totally understand why bustabit doesn't have a faucet on site, but I can also see the importance of being able to practice.

There are some new sites that have the same game and it has a faucet look at this site :

https://bitshook.com

[BoXXoB]

any free faucet to play?

Unfortunately not, we now require all users to deposit to play

In the past we had a faucet, but unfortunately it attracted a lot of the wrong sort of people (abusers and professional beggars) so I removed it, which had the unfortunate side effect of making it annoying for new players to try the game (wait for a deposit). So in the near future (~1 month), I'll add a small faucet (with a limited amount of claims per ip address) to assist with trying the game

I see a lot of people practicing playing on Bustabit playing on Bustaclam using Freebitcoins faucet to play.

I can totally understand why bustabit doesn't have a faucet on site, but I can also see the importance of being able to practice.

There are some new sites that have the same game and it has a faucet look at this site :

...

Not very polite to link another site on a competitor thread. You should consider removing the post just out of good will.

[Kakmakr]

If I remember correctly, when Bustabit was still called MoneyPot, it had a faucet? Why did they remove this feature? I was very active on this site, and the faucet helped to fund the experiment. I might confuse this with some other site, but I can remember something like this?

The few Satoshi's being handed to people via this faucet, cannot bankrupt a site?

[BTCevo]

I dont understand why there is need so.e practice in this kind of game? All that matter is chance and luck in every gambling site and without those thinga,  I dont think that you can get anything. May be if you using low amount to tested it, you can know how this thing work

Bustabit is a bit unique in the sense that there is actually a small aspect of skill (bonus hunting) so practicing definitely can help. So if you want to try play against real people and not worry about losing anything then bustaclam might be a good option

But what you really need is some profit though not something try like this. Let say if you can win big amount on bustaclam does not mean that you can earn through bustabit too though. So I think that playing in something unreliable really wasting time. You can analyze it too on bustabit and of course with real money and real profit

[jaysabi]

If I remember correctly, when Bustabit was still called MoneyPot, it had a faucet? Why did they remove this feature? I was very active on this site, and the faucet helped to fund the experiment. I might confuse this with some other site, but I can remember something like this?

The few Satoshi's being handed to people via this faucet, cannot bankrupt a site?

It was discontinued to prevent serial fauceters from hanging around the site without contributing anything themselves. An unlimited faucet attracted the wrong type of people to the community. There was been talk of implementing a limited faucet (per IP address) to give players a chance to try the game. But if you were already very active on the site, you already know the game and are just looking for a risk-free way to gamble with someone else's money?

[VTC]

In addition to the IP, to prevent abuse just have more captchas.  Solve one captcha for the first claim, two for the second claim...five for the fifth claim.

An alternative, you can present the user with 10 captchas, 5 of which are real and 5 are which are from a "solve a captchas" bitcoin paying service. 

5 captchas solved are worth about 3 bits and should provide a nice way for users to fund the faucet for you.

[boyka2]

hi  there , someone can help me
 i want to get Curent ODDS at any time on gameplaying , i tried

Code:

data.stopped_at AND 
engine.getCurrentPayout()

but both   depends on any user cashed out before


Thanks in advance.

[Kakmakr]

If I remember correctly, when Bustabit was still called MoneyPot, it had a faucet? Why did they remove this feature? I was very active on this site, and the faucet helped to fund the experiment. I might confuse this with some other site, but I can remember something like this?

The few Satoshi's being handed to people via this faucet, cannot bankrupt a site?

Yeah, we used to have a faucet and it was no doubt instrumental in making bustabit take off. However right now, bustabit has 408 players online and AFAIK is currently doing the most volume of any bitcoin site (see: https://thebitcoinstrip.com/leaderboard.html) so I'm not really hurting for business.

I think when I did have a faucet, faucters took up a disproportionate  (80%? amount of support tickets, normally because they would create a whole ton of accounts to use the faucet, and then need help recovering passwords (and even usernames!) or complaining about getting muted in chat for asking for money, or complaining that they can't withdraw for free etc.

So even if the faucter made business sense and would end up making more money, I'd rather have a bit of a less stressful life and leave it out. I also believe a lot of the fun of gambling is risking money.

That said, I'm going to re-add the faucet for trial purposes, so someone can come to the site and see how it works before they decide if they want to bother depositing or not. The way I plan on doing that is through a faucet-claim limit per ip address, the ends up permanently blocking that ip address from the faucet.

Understandably there are a lot of people who want to purely use a faucet and gamble without any risks, and the great thing about the bitcoin scene is there are whole bunch of reputable sites that offer generous faucets.

Ah, thank you for the detailed response. I can now see why you stopped the faucet and given the same situation, I think I would have done the same. I would supplement it with small "money drops" administrated by Mods to incentivize activity and funded by the site owner. You can decide on the budget and then distribute this to people who would be willing to do this. < Just make sure they get a % for their effort, to retain them >

If people know that a site have small "money drops", they would stay longer <idle traffic> and possibly gamble more? These drops will also go towards "active" users, not all registered members. ^smile^

[boyka2]

hi  there , someone can help me
 i want to get Curent ODDS at any time on gameplaying , i tried

Code:

data.stopped_at AND 
engine.getCurrentPayout()

but both   depends on any user cashed out before


Thanks in advance.

What do you mean by "current odds"? The engine.getCurrentPayout() will give you the current multiplier, and from that you can turn it into a probability, if that's what you're after

that what i was doing before, but because of probability ; i lost much 
 i want to get the  Live Multiplier, not the  Last  CashoutMultiplier

[bsky]

Hi guys i also got a code question , this is my first post on this forum. I play bustabit sometimes and i wanted to make a script which get the bonuses.
What i'am trying to do at the moment is to show in the console who cashouts, when he cashouts and the cashout amount.

In the API i see this :

/**
* 'cashed_out': Event called every time the server cash out a user
* if we call cash out the server is going to call this event
* with our name.
* @param {object} resp - JSON payload
* @param {string} resp.username - The player username
* @param {number} resp.amount - The amount the user cashed out
* @param {number} resp.stopped_at -The percentage at which the user cashed out
*/

So i wrote this

engine.on('cashed_out', function(resp) {
console.log('The player ', resp.username, 'cashed out at ', resp.stopped_at/100, '. The cashed out amount is', resp.amount);
});

Result in the console :

The player ghounit cashed out at 9 . The cashed out amount is undefined

So my question is :

I dont know why resp.amount is "undefined"
since it works for resp.username and resp.stopped_at

I need something to show the cashout amounts since i would like to make a script based on this.
Thanks!

[Mist]

Ok so, I suppose this is a little off topic for this but guess how many shits I give? I would like to applaud Ryan for being able to deal with these idiots day in and day out explaining provably fair for the umpteenth time. Top notch work man. I barely ever come around here but just did some catching up and holy fuck it felt like the same thing on repeat.

Peace.

[fiscorcle]

Ryan, any updates on when you plan to allow bankroll investment?

[kolloh]

Thanks to @cowbay for the idea. The ability to "precredit" deposits for a small fee so you don't need to wait on confirmations. And I'll probably extend free-precredits as a VIP feature for established players

Interesting feature. Seems like it would be open to abuse though. User pays a 3,200 bit fee to have 320,000 bits precredited, withdrawals/tips them and doublespends the transaction. I don't think charging a fee makes it any safer to accept unconfirmed funds unless you have some other mechanism in place to prevent abuse ( such as limiting tipping / withdrawls until confirmation )

[fiscorcle]

Whats the downside to accepting unconfirmed transactions, if you can't cash out or transfer them before they confirm? I.e. what's this fee doing that simply limiting withdraws and transfers wouldn't?

[fiscorcle]

Whats the downside to accepting unconfirmed transactions, if you can't cash out or transfer them before they confirm? I.e. what's this fee doing that simply limiting withdraws and transfers wouldn't?

Disabling withdrawals until funds confirm isn't actually very effective, it only stops a rather simple type of attack Imagine this case: Someone deposits 1 bitcoin. They gamble it (say @ 2x). If they win, they let the deposit confirm, and all is good. If they lose, they attempt to double-spend it. If they they are successful in double-spending 1% of the time, this is enough to make a profit (betting 1 BTC @ 2x in bustabit only has a 0.5% house edge).

So you're betting that this fee will be bigger than the % of the time someone can successfully double spend essentially?

[BoXXoB]

bustabit v2 teaser:




Thanks to @cowbay for the idea. The ability to "precredit" deposits for a small fee so you don't need to wait on confirmations. And I'll probably extend free-precredits as a VIP feature for established players

Looking good.

Nice idea with requiring a fee for precredited deposits. I as a degen would probably use such a feature frequently. Is there still a certain tx fee required in order to have precredit function?

[DarkStar_]

bustabit v2 teaser:
https://i.imgur.com/jgSWMzR.png


Thanks to @cowbay for the idea. The ability to "precredit" deposits for a small fee so you don't need to wait on confirmations. And I'll probably extend free-precredits as a VIP feature for established players

Really cool idea for a feature, and very unique. I'd probably use it quite a bit, since it's a fairly low fee and I'm impatient. I assume the precredit fee will got to investors, to cover possible losses from double spenders? (assuming that's still happening) Any rough ETA for when bustabit v2 will be out?

Even with the measures in place, it still seems quite risky. Someone might pay a fee just low enough to be accepted, do a quick bet and double spend with a very high fee on loss.

Looking good.

Nice idea with requiring a fee for precredited deposits. I as a degen would probably use such a feature frequently. Is there still a certain tx fee required in order to have precredit function?

Yes, he said it need to be low double spending risk, so a decent fee for the size of the transaction would probably be needed.

One of the biggest reasons though for me charging a fee, is to stop it being over-used and only used for time-sensitive deposits.  There's also a huge amount of heuristics that go into if I can accepting it (e.g. there's a max total risk for the site at any point, a kill switch if it gets abused, heuristics about the transaction itself (e.g. if it's bip125, it's ancestral fee / ancestral size etc). Only transactions that pass those heuristics are eligible for "precrediting".

Over time, I want to tweak it though to be more reputational. My long term goal with it is for someone who is obviously a gambler, depositing a normal amount of money for them in a non-replaceable transaction that has enough fees to confirm will just be able to get their money instantly without having to wait (or pay any extra).

[kolloh]

Yeah, there's an extensive amount of work that has gone into it to make it reasonably safe. It looks at things like the transactions, their parents, if they've had time to propagate, etc any conflicts etc.  If there's not enough reason for me to be confident the transaction will confirm, or is safe from double-spending it won't be eligible for precrediting.

It also has max-risk thresholds, (e.g. only X bitcoin is eligible for precrediting at once, so the max loss for the site could only be X) along with a kill switch when ever it detects a successful defraud (for me to investigate, and further tune).

Yeah, with these steps it should be a lot less risky and will be a great feature to have for gamblers. No one likes waiting on a confirm and this allows you to jump into the action a lot quicker. I'm sure I'd use it if I wasn't in the mood to wait on a confirm.

[J Gambler]

This is the only gambling website that don't needs to be advertise nor don't had signature campaign bustabit nowadays is everywhere in country lo'ts of player and still growing hoping for the best on v2 of bustabit i always wanted to play here once i have bitcoins less risk.

[BTCevo]

Thanks to @cowbay for the idea. The ability to "precredit" deposits for a small fee so you don't need to wait on confirmations. And I'll probably extend free-precredits as a VIP feature for established players

Interesting feature. Seems like it would be open to abuse though. User pays a 3,200 bit fee to have 320,000 bits precredited, withdrawals/tips them and doublespends the transaction. I don't think charging a fee makes it any safer to accept unconfirmed funds unless you have some other mechanism in place to prevent abuse ( such as limiting tipping / withdrawls until confirmation )

3200 bit as fee? Is this for real? That is 0.032 btc just to get 0.32 confirmation of this? This fee is really huge. Changing the fee higher will just make people complain more and more. And this thing will sure affect many players.

Did I miss this "pre creditted" things? May be I little bit confuse here