GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)

[btcm4n14c]

im pretty happy so far with my hashlets, i dont understand why people scream ponzi with no proof so far

[SDRebel]

Question: is GAW mining on any pools other than ZenPool?
A: Almost definitely not.

when the hashlets were announced, they published an Zen address with clevermining. that address quickly went from 70Ghs or so to over 140Ghs. We can't obviously proove it belongs to them, but in my book, that would change the answer to: "they have at least provided some evidence that they mine, at least partially,  in clevermining"

Do you have that address?

i bookmarked it, let me find it

edit:
here it is
http://clevermining.com/users/1BT9cPLGRep7nXnvo9JoXn6H7sSd5Em2WE

[SDRebel]

Question: is GAW mining on any pools other than ZenPool?
A: Almost definitely not.

when the hashlets were announced, they published an Zen address with clevermining. that address quickly went from 70Ghs or so to over 140Ghs. We can't obviously proove it belongs to them, but in my book, that would change the answer to: "they have at least provided some evidence that they mine, at least partially,  in clevermining"

Do you have that address?

Exactly the same idea here!

[edit] CM does 112 Ghs, so 140 wouldn't be possible

currently only at 62Gh
http://clevermining.com/users/1BT9cPLGRep7nXnvo9JoXn6H7sSd5Em2WE

[suchmoon]

Question: is GAW mining on any pools other than ZenPool?
A: Almost definitely not.

when the hashlets were announced, they published an Zen address with clevermining. that address quickly went from 70Ghs or so to over 140Ghs. We can't obviously proove it belongs to them, but in my book, that would change the answer to: "they have at least provided some evidence that they mine, at least partially,  in clevermining"

Do you have that address?

Exactly the same idea here!

[edit] CM does 112 Ghs, so 140 wouldn't be possible

currently only at 62Gh
http://clevermining.com/users/1BT9cPLGRep7nXnvo9JoXn6H7sSd5Em2WE

That is sfire's address:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649.msg5982454#msg5982454

It starts before GAW sold their first Gridseed. You could see it on Middlecoin back in December too. I doubt it's related to GAW.

[rdyoung]

If there are any DB specialists here, instead of screaming scam and how shitty they are, why not offer your services. You could then get an inside look at whats going on and you could let us know one way or the other.

Yeah, I'm sure they would be happy to have me help them 

Anyhow, I don't think they need more people, you don't fix databases by assigning a developer to each data row.

Ironically the major mining pools that the CEO belittled as "regular guys with no professional training" have very few if any payout issues. So much for highly trained businessmen.

True, but they apparently need someone who knows how to make a DB and the code that feeds it as efficient as possible. Stock/Commodities and now crypto exchanges are handling exponentially more data than gaw/zen is without as many issues.

[MOB]

If there are any DB specialists here, instead of screaming scam and how shitty they are, why not offer your services. You could then get an inside look at whats going on and you could let us know one way or the other.

Yeah, I'm sure they would be happy to have me help them 

Anyhow, I don't think they need more people, you don't fix databases by assigning a developer to each data row.

Ironically the major mining pools that the CEO belittled as "regular guys with no professional training" have very few if any payout issues. So much for highly trained businessmen.

True, but they apparently need someone who knows how to make a DB and the code that feeds it as efficient as possible. Stock/Commodities and now crypto exchanges are handling exponentially more data than gaw/zen is without as many issues.

They need servers.  They have inadequate hardware.  Irony abounds.

[SDRebel]

Question: is GAW mining on any pools other than ZenPool?
A: Almost definitely not.

when the hashlets were announced, they published an Zen address with clevermining. that address quickly went from 70Ghs or so to over 140Ghs. We can't obviously proove it belongs to them, but in my book, that would change the answer to: "they have at least provided some evidence that they mine, at least partially,  in clevermining"

Do you have that address?

Exactly the same idea here!

[edit] CM does 112 Ghs, so 140 wouldn't be possible

currently only at 62Gh
http://clevermining.com/users/1BT9cPLGRep7nXnvo9JoXn6H7sSd5Em2WE

That is sfire's address:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649.msg5982454#msg5982454

It starts before GAW sold their first Gridseed. You could see it on Middlecoin back in December too. I doubt it's related to GAW.

i don't know who sfire is, but does sfire have more credibility than GAW? has sfire shown all the miners he/she has?

[suchmoon]

That is sfire's address:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649.msg5982454#msg5982454

It starts before GAW sold their first Gridseed. You could see it on Middlecoin back in December too. I doubt it's related to GAW.

i don't know who sfire is, but does sfire have more credibility than GAW? has sfire shown all the miners he/she has?

Why? sfire is not taking anybody's money, private mining farm as far as I know. Besides there is no need to see the miners, a message signed with the address would be more substantial proof if sfire wanted to prove anything (or GAW, if this is GAW's address).

[Flep182]

That is sfire's address:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649.msg5982454#msg5982454

It starts before GAW sold their first Gridseed. You could see it on Middlecoin back in December too. I doubt it's related to GAW.

i don't know who sfire is, but does sfire have more credibility than GAW? has sfire shown all the miners he/she has?

Why? sfire is not taking anybody's money, private mining farm as far as I know. Besides there is no need to see the miners, a message signed with the address would be more substantial proof if sfire wanted to prove anything (or GAW, if this is GAW's address).

Decent daily payouts! 

[SDRebel]

That is sfire's address:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649.msg5982454#msg5982454

It starts before GAW sold their first Gridseed. You could see it on Middlecoin back in December too. I doubt it's related to GAW.

i don't know who sfire is, but does sfire have more credibility than GAW? has sfire shown all the miners he/she has?

Why? sfire is not taking anybody's money, private mining farm as far as I know. Besides there is no need to see the miners, a message signed with the address would be more substantial proof if sfire wanted to prove anything (or GAW, if this is GAW's address).

I don't know if either party has provided proof of ownership

[suchmoon]

I just noticed something - the daily fee on my wafflet is ~50% of its earnings. I understand it's a gift horse and all that but I wonder what happens if it starts closing in on 100%. I hope I can discard it somehow.

[Flep182]

I just noticed something - the daily fee on my wafflet is ~50% of its earnings. I understand it's a gift horse and all that but I wonder what happens if it starts closing in on 100%. I hope I can discard it somehow.

Probably moving them to the next level hashlet (for a small fee if needed)

[SDRebel]

I just noticed something - the daily fee on my wafflet is ~50% of its earnings. I understand it's a gift horse and all that but I wonder what happens if it starts closing in on 100%. I hope I can discard it somehow.

by the time the fee gets close to the earnings, they'll figure something out, like an upgrade, or reduce the fee a bit, or something. you will not have to start paying them, I can almost guarantee that

[SDRebel]

Question: is GAW mining on any pools other than ZenPool?
A: Almost definitely not.

when the hashlets were announced, they published an Zen address with clevermining. that address quickly went from 70Ghs or so to over 140Ghs. We can't obviously proove it belongs to them, but in my book, that would change the answer to: "they have at least provided some evidence that they mine, at least partially,  in clevermining"

Do you have that address?

Exactly the same idea here!

[edit] CM does 112 Ghs, so 140 wouldn't be possible

currently only at 62Gh
http://clevermining.com/users/1BT9cPLGRep7nXnvo9JoXn6H7sSd5Em2WE

That is sfire's address:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649.msg5982454#msg5982454

It starts before GAW sold their first Gridseed. You could see it on Middlecoin back in December too. I doubt it's related to GAW.

actually, i just found this thread. it seems someone else mentioned it belonging to sfire and then someone misinterpreted as belonging to zen and then the rumor spread. my apologies
https://hashtalk.org/topic/2516/zenpool-howdeedoodat-some-thoughts/

[bitgeek]

I just noticed something - the daily fee on my wafflet is ~50% of its earnings. I understand it's a gift horse and all that but I wonder what happens if it starts closing in on 100%. I hope I can discard it somehow.

by the time the fee gets close to the earnings, they'll figure something out, like an upgrade, or reduce the fee a bit, or something. you will not have to start paying them, I can almost guarantee that

That's true. GAW's goal is to keep mining profitable. They said it countless times.

[suchmoon]

actually, i just found this thread. it seems someone else mentioned it belonging to sfire and then someone misinterpreted as belonging to zen and then the rumor spread. my apologies
https://hashtalk.org/topic/2516/zenpool-howdeedoodat-some-thoughts/

Ah, the infamous hammer thread. Sorry to divert this into another direction but that thread is so horribly mangled by the forum migration that it's almost impossible to read. Quotes bastardized, reply links disappeared, images shown as HTML. I think it would have been much better if they started the new forum from scratch and left the old one in read-only mode on http://old.hashtalk.org. Either that or hire me for data migration

[NuShrike]

I just noticed something - the daily fee on my wafflet is ~50% of its earnings. I understand it's a gift horse and all that but I wonder what happens if it starts closing in on 100%. I hope I can discard it somehow.

It's ~33.2% for yesterday's Cleverlet.  For a Zenlet, it was ~23.8%.

Meantime, payouts and maintenance fees are done, balances are done, but withdrawals are very delayed. Used to take 0-2 minutes; now it's at least 22 minutes. Going to wait the hour out to see.

[SDRebel]

actually, i just found this thread. it seems someone else mentioned it belonging to sfire and then someone misinterpreted as belonging to zen and then the rumor spread. my apologies
https://hashtalk.org/topic/2516/zenpool-howdeedoodat-some-thoughts/

Ah, the infamous hammer thread. Sorry to divert this into another direction but that thread is so horribly mangled by the forum migration that it's almost impossible to read. Quotes bastardized, reply links disappeared, images shown as HTML. I think it would have been much better if they started the new forum from scratch and left the old one in read-only mode on http://old.hashtalk.org. Either that or hire me for data migration

yeah , the whole thing sucked big time

[zdaz14]

I just noticed something - the daily fee on my wafflet is ~50% of its earnings. I understand it's a gift horse and all that but I wonder what happens if it starts closing in on 100%. I hope I can discard it somehow.

It's ~33.2% for yesterday's Cleverlet.  For a Zenlet, it was ~23.8%.

Meantime, payouts and maintenance fees are done, balances are done, but withdrawals are very delayed. Used to take 0-2 minutes; now it's at least 22 minutes. Going to wait the hour out to see.

They already said once Solos are no longer profitable they will up to the next pool.

[alani123]

I just noticed something - the daily fee on my wafflet is ~50% of its earnings. I understand it's a gift horse and all that but I wonder what happens if it starts closing in on 100%. I hope I can discard it somehow.

It's ~33.2% for yesterday's Cleverlet.  For a Zenlet, it was ~23.8%.

Meantime, payouts and maintenance fees are done, balances are done, but withdrawals are very delayed. Used to take 0-2 minutes; now it's at least 22 minutes. Going to wait the hour out to see.

I'm noticing similar problems with the payouts... Although I only own 2 hashlets (1 from the giveaway) this annoys me... Let's see what their excuse is going to be this time.