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Author Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)  (Read 262846 times)
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September 09, 2014, 06:31:08 PM
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My free month of hosting for my two Ant S3's is over. So now I'm paying the hosting fee. With the decline in BTC pricing it will take quite a bit longer to recoup. Unless I start coverting fiat to BTC just to pay the hosting fees.
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September 10, 2014, 12:22:55 AM
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whelp...looks like i probably was perma banned from hashtalk lol that didn't take much...gee for someone who says their business is going so strong that they are trying to slow down sales...I don't the see the problem with a few free thinkers...but i guess if you dare speak neg. about gaw ya go poof...kinda like a mafia lol GAW CEO "I'll gladly take your money, just don't ask question or say anything bad about us or else" Tongue

What ya post?
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September 10, 2014, 12:40:58 AM
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whelp...looks like i probably was perma banned from hashtalk lol that didn't take much...gee for someone who says their business is going so strong that they are trying to slow down sales...I don't the see the problem with a few free thinkers...but i guess if you dare speak neg. about gaw ya go poof...kinda like a mafia lol GAW CEO "I'll gladly take your money, just don't ask question or say anything bad about us or else" Tongue

You my friend committed a

Thoughtcrime

"The term was popularized in the dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, wherein thoughtcrime is the criminal act of holding unspoken beliefs or doubts that oppose or question the ruling party. In the book, the GAWvernment attempts to control not only the speech and actions, but also the thoughts of its subjects. To entertain unacceptable thoughts is known as crimethink in Newspeak, the ideologically purified dialect of the party."


The Thought Police will be coming after you.

There was another poster I have not seen since he started asking questions, penny something or something penny. He was also asking legitimate questions but I guess he got a ban. It seems like there are more founding members that are mad there, ones that praised GAW before.

And please stop thinking and just listen and say "YES MASTER" next time and there will be no problems.

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September 10, 2014, 12:42:37 AM
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whelp...looks like i probably was perma banned from hashtalk lol that didn't take much...gee for someone who says their business is going so strong that they are trying to slow down sales...I don't the see the problem with a few free thinkers...but i guess if you dare speak neg. about gaw ya go poof...kinda like a mafia lol GAW CEO "I'll gladly take your money, just don't ask question or say anything bad about us or else" Tongue

You my friend committed a

Thoughtcrime

"The term was popularized in the dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, wherein thoughtcrime is the criminal act of holding unspoken beliefs or doubts that oppose or question the ruling party. In the book, the GAWvernment attempts to control not only the speech and actions, but also the thoughts of its subjects. To entertain unacceptable thoughts is known as crimethink in Newspeak, the ideologically purified dialect of the party."


The Thought Police will be coming after you.

There was another poster I have not seen since he started asking questions, penny something or something penny. He was also asking legitimate questions but I guess he got a ban. It seems like there are more founding members that are mad there, ones that praised GAW before.

And please stop thinking and just listen and say "YES MASTER" next time and there will be no problems.

Troll
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September 10, 2014, 12:53:12 AM
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I can not understand how someone with 28.5 BTc would not use an escrow to buy hashlets. I think this was staged to stop selling hashlets for $27 when GAW is asking close to $50 now, nice way to try and control market price and also put fear into the picture. Economics 101  at its finest.







LOL - that's a little too tinfoil hat theory for me... I have doubts about someone NOT using escrow for 28btc.. Makes no sense.. They dont' deserve to get scammed, but anyone with that amount of BTC should have known better.

But he is only asking for 20 BTC back, REALLY? Tongue

Possibly just to cut losses? And some people pull that in hopes of charity giving.

You say troll and post this, I mean like WTF DUDE, charity you say? Cut losses you say? Oh the fake scammer would give back 20 BTC?? THIS IS THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT BUY HASHLETS.. nuff said..

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September 10, 2014, 01:09:12 AM
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I can not understand how someone with 28.5 BTc would not use an escrow to buy hashlets. I think this was staged to stop selling hashlets for $27 when GAW is asking close to $50 now, nice way to try and control market price and also put fear into the picture. Economics 101  at its finest.







LOL - that's a little too tinfoil hat theory for me... I have doubts about someone NOT using escrow for 28btc.. Makes no sense.. They dont' deserve to get scammed, but anyone with that amount of BTC should have known better.

But he is only asking for 20 BTC back, REALLY? Tongue

Possibly just to cut losses? And some people pull that in hopes of charity giving.

You say troll and post this, I mean like WTF DUDE, charity you say? Cut losses you say? Oh the fake scammer would give back 20 BTC?? THIS IS THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT BUY HASHLETS.. nuff said..

Double troll.
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September 10, 2014, 01:27:58 AM
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I pm'd the  Gaw Miners_CEO account here on bitcointalk as the should be Josh of zen-gaw

I have discovered a fundamental flaw  that allows for boosting earnings on  the zencloud site.

I will not tell the flaw to anyone but him as I like the company. I am awaiting an answer from him.

I have some money left in the company so it is in my best interest to not say what the flaw is but it is real and once pointed out easy to exploit. They can also fix this flaw with ease.

Once he gets back to me with a reply and fixes or does not fix the flaw I will reveal the flaw. Since someone else will figure it out eventually and in fact may have done so.  

  So to Josh of gaw-zen please answer the pm.

 To this site I am spending coin to prove their is a flaw so far I spent about .75 btc

 here is a link to my Zen thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=743152.msg8697967#msg8697967

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September 10, 2014, 01:31:42 AM
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whelp...looks like i probably was perma banned from hashtalk lol that didn't take much...gee for someone who says their business is going so strong that they are trying to slow down sales...I don't the see the problem with a few free thinkers...but i guess if you dare speak neg. about gaw ya go poof...kinda like a mafia lol GAW CEO "I'll gladly take your money, just don't ask question or say anything bad about us or else" Tongue

What ya post?

oh just thread about being censored there and wanting answers to my question about where they are getting all this extra income...that was only suppose to be for a week...then the new hashtalk came out and i was magically unbanned and my stupid ass talked to Mr. Moneybags aka gawceo and won myself a perma ban i guess lol

oh well...made another account...but can't really say what is actually on my mind there or i'd get banned again...so i guess its kinda pointless to have that account...that account even has some upvotes but doesn't count since its not linked to a zenportal account

Well you can do the silent resistance thing, downvote stupid crap and upvote less stupid crap. Although I don't even know what the votes do except give you hashpoints? Does it make any posts more or less visible or whatever?
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September 10, 2014, 01:37:23 AM
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whelp...looks like i probably was perma banned from hashtalk lol that didn't take much...gee for someone who says their business is going so strong that they are trying to slow down sales...I don't the see the problem with a few free thinkers...but i guess if you dare speak neg. about gaw ya go poof...kinda like a mafia lol GAW CEO "I'll gladly take your money, just don't ask question or say anything bad about us or else" Tongue

What ya post?

oh just thread about being censored there and wanting answers to my question about where they are getting all this extra income...that was only suppose to be for a week...then the new hashtalk came out and i was magically unbanned and my stupid ass talked to Mr. Moneybags aka gawceo and won myself a perma ban i guess lol

oh well...made another account...but can't really say what is actually on my mind there or i'd get banned again...so i guess its kinda pointless to have that account...that account even has some upvotes but doesn't count since its not linked to a zenportal account

Well you can do the silent resistance thing, downvote stupid crap and upvote less stupid crap. Although I don't even know what the votes do except give you hashpoints? Does it make any posts more or less visible or whatever?
  hashpoints are worth 1 penny each I earn them with upvotes I lose them with down votes.  I also earn them by keeping btc in my zen account right now I have 386 hp's 375 were earned from mining or 3.75 usd   I can lose them if people down vote a post.

  this is why I posted the fact that the zen-gaw system has a flaw that allows for huge gains in your earnings .  If I post it on the hashtalk site I fear a ban and endless down votes.

I am hoping to attract attention here and have This addressed rather quickly.

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September 10, 2014, 03:12:57 AM
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so you can now choose what you mine and really see you mine this?

yolo
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September 10, 2014, 04:05:17 AM
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so you can now choose what you mine and really see you mine this?

No. I can't find that post on hashtalk, so I'm going to speculate here. I'm guessing philip is talking about setting up small orders on WestHash that would drive the average NiceHash earnings up for ALL hashlets that use NH, because they are based on NH's reported average. And precisely because GAW doesn't actually mine on NH, it will not get benefit from it, will not use up the order to drive the price down, and will have to pay the inflated amounts out of their pocket. It's quite crafty, if that's what it is.
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September 10, 2014, 05:02:09 AM
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Hashtalk seems to be quite excited about NH profitability:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/5029/nicehash-sha256-good-to-miners-today
https://hashtalk.org/topic/5063/genesis-average-payout

Sadly I don't have any SHA256 hashlets (shashlets?), almost tempted to get some but this boom probably won't last long.
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September 10, 2014, 05:10:33 AM
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Hashtalk seems to be quite excited about NH profitability:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/5029/nicehash-sha256-good-to-miners-today
https://hashtalk.org/topic/5063/genesis-average-payout

Sadly I don't have any SHA256 hashlets (shashlets?), almost tempted to get some but this boom probably won't last long.

"shashlets"...LOL ... Grin

Sounds almost like "shashliks"... Wink

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCcQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbcgoodfood.com%2Frecipes%2F2257642%2Flamb-shashliks-with-rosemary-and-garlic&ei=rdwPVNW2GYqRgwTpi4GgDw&usg=AFQjCNHlLJMzAF005f8E9ao-f0i8enIdaA&sig2=C2eoNo3fmpxwNV7CtzGtRw&bvm=bv.74649129,d.eXYi

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September 10, 2014, 05:22:07 AM
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Why did he delete his posts about nicehash, they are all recorded on another site....

Its very funny on hashtalk because why_a_penny is asking questions and Mr. CEO claims he does not want to debate, "But you can count on me always being strait forward" LOL... I think cousin Carlos might be answering questions for him... There is proof that others use his account to post/answer questions for Mr. CEO.... 1 example is when Eric got caught using his account.

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synonyms:   uncomplicated, simple, easy, effortless, painless, undemanding, plain sailing, child's play; More
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September 10, 2014, 05:35:23 AM
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Why did he delete his posts about nicehash, they are all recorded on another site....

Its very funny on hashtalk because why_a_penny is asking questions and Mr. CEO claims he does not want to debate, "But you can count on me always being strait forward" LOL... I think cousin Carlos might be answering questions for him... There is proof that others use his account to post/answer questions for Mr. CEO.... 1 example is when Eric got caught using his account.

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straightforward
straight·for·ward
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uncomplicated and easy to do or understand.
"in a straightforward case no fees will be charged"
synonyms:   uncomplicated, simple, easy, effortless, painless, undemanding, plain sailing, child's play; More
antonyms:   complicated
(of a person) honest and frank.
"a straightforward young man"


I was asked to delete them by a gaw staff member.  I will repost them in the morning if he continues to tell me my emails sent to explain this problem do not reach him.    I did them a favor  that would save them a lot of coin.  They deleted the thread on hashtalk.  I spent around .75btc to find the problem and to be able to prove it. It does exist and  frankly I proved it. 

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September 10, 2014, 05:42:21 AM
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The thing is, and I have my doubts here, will you be able to make money with it, or only to "kill" GAW's margin?
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September 10, 2014, 05:45:23 AM
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Why did he delete his posts about nicehash, they are all recorded on another site....

Its very funny on hashtalk because why_a_penny is asking questions and Mr. CEO claims he does not want to debate, "But you can count on me always being strait forward" LOL... I think cousin Carlos might be answering questions for him... There is proof that others use his account to post/answer questions for Mr. CEO.... 1 example is when Eric got caught using his account.

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"in a straightforward case no fees will be charged"
synonyms:   uncomplicated, simple, easy, effortless, painless, undemanding, plain sailing, child's play; More
antonyms:   complicated
(of a person) honest and frank.
"a straightforward young man"


I was asked to delete them by a gaw staff member.  I will repost them in the morning if he continues to tell me my emails sent to explain this problem do not reach him.    I did them a favor  that would save them a lot of coin.  They deleted the thread on hashtalk.  I spent around .75btc to find the problem and to be able to prove it. It does exist and  frankly I proved it. 

I read a lot of your posts and enjoy reading them, people like you and many others are a GREAT part of the community and it is a pleasure & honor to read what you post.

Thank you.


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September 10, 2014, 05:50:36 AM
Last edit: September 10, 2014, 08:52:22 PM by philipma1957
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Edit

New edit:
 I want to say that the bounty question was caused by my rush . Eric of zen mentioned to not post details here on bitcointalk. I had a miscommunication with him  and posted details my bad. Eric then said the would not pay the bounty.
  Frankly talking on pm's at 1:00 am
was my mistake I was tired and misunderstood Eric.  Posting so fast was a mistake on my part.  I got a lot of people going in lots of directions over this.  I know I pissed off Eric and he said no bounty.  To defend him it was late at night I dropped a bombshell on him and spam filters caused a lot of people a lot of grief.
  on the good side some real fixes are offered to this problem in the discussion on hashtalk.org so for now no nicehash but this idea below has promise

https://hashtalk.org/topic/5145/nicehash-sha256/737?page=39


since westhash/nicehash had rapid price flux someone proposed  a one month average I thought a diff jump length may be enough to fix it. cost of driving price up 10 or 11 days in a row would be more then enough and easier to detect.









I find a huge fucking problem that could have cost them countless coins.. I believe they have been robbed with this flaw since some patterns on nicehash/westhash were weird and I get this in his pm's

  I think he got my emails. Here is part of one I sent.  I am tired and going to sleep.  thanks all





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September 10, 2014, 06:10:46 AM
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Very nice find! The doosh could of at least said thank you and even paid back what you lost finding the problem (and even a hashlet or 2), what does he do? LIES... Phil goodnight Smiley

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September 10, 2014, 10:13:33 AM
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I love how the word troll has been repeated numerous times, dozens upon dozens of times.
Why not address that Gawminers and their team are a gang of ponzi schemers?

Call me a troll again and I'm going to start a anti-Gaw campaign. I will top what GAW is paying its customers for signatures and I will get people to write a negative signature about GAW.

Because you ARE a troll, and a bullshitter. Just a few days ago you promised to give proof of being a GAW client and paying them $15000, what happened to that?
How is your FBI investigation going? Why did you switch accounts again? Does your alt I_IZ_CEO have some limited login time so you have to use the other? Cheesy
Why did you abandon your flexhash alt?

So, I called you a troll and a liar, because you are one. Your move.




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