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October 02, 2014, 02:58:31 PM |
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Seriously though, the forum is the only place where all the announcements and updates are posted (I don't think they even bother to send e-mails, at least I haven't received anything from GAW except ads), but it's a real PITA to navigate let alone find anything there. It's good to see someone making an effort to organize the important bits.
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October 02, 2014, 05:24:17 PM |
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Just FYI to those thinking about buying hashlets, my approximately 300 mhs in prime hashlets have been up for sale ever since GAW announced they could be sold. I also have had 4 Th/s of genesis sha hashlets up for sale.
1) Only 1 very small genesis hashlet sold despite GAW's propoganda that most have been bought back/sold through their scammy setup
2) Primes are still banned from direct p2p sale, and the "buyback" obviously doesn't work
3) There is literally no way to get out once you are in (at least for prime hashlets).
4) I have had several offers at the $25-26 per mhs price for primes. This shows that there IS a market, and that the price (25-26) is much lower than what GAW would want to see. If you cannot figure out why GAW is banning sales of primes then you are not very smart.
5) The new games GAW has put in place just do not work. I have tried to use the "double dip" on all my hashlets that were not for sale, but may daily payout has been constant (within 5%). Same thing for boosting. It does not matter much to the end number. I did get a double dip ONE DAY out of the past week or so since the double dip system was put in place but not since then. It seems a lot more like GAW every once in a while drops in a few extra mBTC just to make it look like it is working (kind of like Pavlov's experiment which showed that random infrequent rewards worked, it seems GAW follows the same model).
6) Payouts on the zenpool in the early days were indeed 200% of the best multipool. Since then they have steadily dropped to now, where zenpool and LTCpool are almost always neck and neck - surprisingly so. It seems GAW realized that by giving 200% returns they were sending up red flags so they ratcheted it down and now have the lottery type games instead.
The whole thing stinks of scam so badly that I cannot believe GAW will exist much longer. Anyone putting money into them now (esp at $49 per mhs) is worse than a fool, but I appreciate it because only with new fools will us old fools get our money out.
Hopefully the ponzi scheme will continue long enough for me to at least break even.
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October 02, 2014, 05:36:18 PM |
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Great info. Saving much time |
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October 02, 2014, 07:01:51 PM |
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1) Only 1 very small genesis hashlet sold despite GAW's propoganda that most have been bought back/sold through their scammy setup
Most cloud mining providers don't allow you to sell your shares. You have this opportunity and still whine because nobody bought from you  Put something on the market and blame the market owner for lack of sales. You just can't satisfy some people... |
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October 02, 2014, 07:10:02 PM |
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1) Only 1 very small genesis hashlet sold despite GAW's propoganda that most have been bought back/sold through their scammy setup
Most cloud mining providers don't allow you to sell your shares. You have this opportunity and still whine because nobody bought from you Put something on the market and blame the market owner for lack of sales. You just can't satisfy some people... You may not have the capacity to understand since you clearly failed to read or understand anything I have posted, but I will explain anyway for the benefit of those with an IQ above 10. 1) GAW promised the ability to resell. That was a key part of the pitch to those of us who invested early. I would not have invested a single satoshi if that promise had not been made. It doesn't matter what others do or do not do.. I made this investment on a specific promise that has not been kept. 2) I do NOT have the opportunity to sell because GAW BANNED ALL PRIME SALES. They do not alllow primes to be posted on the "market" NOR do they allow users to transfer in private transactions. Their reasons for this are complete BS - Josh and Eric claimed last night it had to do with database profile matching problems created when users merged hashlets. But my hashlets for sale were never merged. Also, why allow ALL other hashlet types to sell on the market but only ban Primes? 3) In case the above is not clear, I WANT a market so I can SELL and get the hell out of this scam. I will sell at whatever I can get from the market. Right now, there is NO MARKET, and NO WAY TO SELL primes at any price. Period. I will be satisfied when GAW meets its commitments and/or Josh/Eric etc. are jailed. |
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October 02, 2014, 07:15:31 PM |
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Just FYI to those thinking about buying hashlets, my approximately 300 mhs in prime hashlets have been up for sale ever since GAW announced they could be sold. I also have had 4 Th/s of genesis sha hashlets up for sale.
1) Only 1 very small genesis hashlet sold despite GAW's propoganda that most have been bought back/sold through their scammy setup
2) Primes are still banned from direct p2p sale, and the "buyback" obviously doesn't work
3) There is literally no way to get out once you are in (at least for prime hashlets).
4) I have had several offers at the $25-26 per mhs price for primes. This shows that there IS a market, and that the price (25-26) is much lower than what GAW would want to see. If you cannot figure out why GAW is banning sales of primes then you are not very smart.
5) The new games GAW has put in place just do not work. I have tried to use the "double dip" on all my hashlets that were not for sale, but may daily payout has been constant (within 5%). Same thing for boosting. It does not matter much to the end number. I did get a double dip ONE DAY out of the past week or so since the double dip system was put in place but not since then. It seems a lot more like GAW every once in a while drops in a few extra mBTC just to make it look like it is working (kind of like Pavlov's experiment which showed that random infrequent rewards worked, it seems GAW follows the same model).
6) Payouts on the zenpool in the early days were indeed 200% of the best multipool. Since then they have steadily dropped to now, where zenpool and LTCpool are almost always neck and neck - surprisingly so. It seems GAW realized that by giving 200% returns they were sending up red flags so they ratcheted it down and now have the lottery type games instead.
The whole thing stinks of scam so badly that I cannot believe GAW will exist much longer. Anyone putting money into them now (esp at $49 per mhs) is worse than a fool, but I appreciate it because only with new fools will us old fools get our money out.
Hopefully the ponzi scheme will continue long enough for me to at least break even.
Love your posts...But I've been getting my dd payout every day and it is the right amount...they even sent me 2dd payouts I didn't the first couple days it went live...8 more days and I'm fully roi'd  good luck to you Tip though...just iggy bitgeek it's easy that way...he listens to no one if they bad talk gaw |
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October 02, 2014, 07:26:26 PM
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Love your posts...But I've been getting my dd payout every day and it is the right amount...they even sent me 2dd payouts I didn't the first couple days it went live...8 more days and I'm fully roi'd good luck to you Tip though...just iggy bitgeek it's easy that way...he listens to no one if they bad talk gaw How many mhs do you have? Are they purchased direct from GAW or were they converted from zencloud hosted machines? EDIT: Based on crashoveride5492's post, I went back to examine my history. Here is the activity record for one of my converted miners (now a prime hashlet) with 2 pools from yesterday to this morning: October 1, 2014
Zeus Hurricane X6
ZenPool: 0.00665327 BTC after pool fees (if applicable)
LTC Pool: 0.00169153 BTC after pool fees (if applicable)
Interestingly, LTC Pool and ZenPool have about equal performance yesterday according to the Rates table that GAW publishes: LTC Pool 0.00060319 BTC
ZenPool 0.00060319 BTC
So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that. I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools. |
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October 02, 2014, 08:33:37 PM |
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Love your posts...But I've been getting my dd payout every day and it is the right amount...they even sent me 2dd payouts I didn't the first couple days it went live...8 more days and I'm fully roi'd good luck to you Tip though...just iggy bitgeek it's easy that way...he listens to no one if they bad talk gaw How many mhs do you have? Are they purchased direct from GAW or were they converted from zencloud hosted machines? EDIT: Based on crashoveride5492's post, I went back to examine my history. Here is the activity record for one of my converted miners (now a prime hashlet) with 2 pools from yesterday to this morning: October 1, 2014
Zeus Hurricane X6
ZenPool: 0.00665327 BTC after pool fees (if applicable)
LTC Pool: 0.00169153 BTC after pool fees (if applicable)
Interestingly, LTC Pool and ZenPool have about equal performance yesterday according to the Rates table that GAW publishes: LTC Pool 0.00060319 BTC
ZenPool 0.00060319 BTC
So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that. I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools. 54mh/s WM converted to prime and bought 3mh/s prime and the free 1.3mh/s prime gift they gave us all rolled into 1 prime @ 59mh/s think they upped the fury ta 2mh/s  |
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October 02, 2014, 08:35:06 PM |
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So I spoke with them today and they are sending me a free war machine to make up for sending me 4 of the wrong ones. I will let you guys know if they ship it out or not. I am happy with that deal, since the units they did send only use 900 watts of power compaired to the 1800watts the war machine uses. They where very nice to talk to on the phone and answerd every time I called too.
I am so happy to hear they have taken care of you! Please let me know if you need further assistance! Sincerely, Amber amber@gawminers.comAmber, to be clear - can you help with ticket #33302? Being Processed since last 2 days 2 hrs Hi! I apologize, I am having your ticket reviewed right now. Thank you for your time! Thanks, Amber. Still nothing, Amber. Some broken promises and losses for me, nothing more... |
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October 02, 2014, 09:00:50 PM |
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So I spoke with them today and they are sending me a free war machine to make up for sending me 4 of the wrong ones. I will let you guys know if they ship it out or not. I am happy with that deal, since the units they did send only use 900 watts of power compaired to the 1800watts the war machine uses. They where very nice to talk to on the phone and answerd every time I called too.
I am so happy to hear they have taken care of you! Please let me know if you need further assistance! Sincerely, Amber amber@gawminers.comAmber, to be clear - can you help with ticket #33302? Being Processed since last 2 days 2 hrs Hi! I apologize, I am having your ticket reviewed right now. Thank you for your time! Thanks, Amber. Still nothing, Amber. Some broken promises and losses for me, nothing more... Seems like even a "old timers' have been caught in a new GAW "Virtual Casino" game of "...Upgrades...sales...boosts...hashlet this...or hashlets that..." ... I am keeping my REAL mining gear ...happily hashing on WeMineLTC ...no gimmicks ...no "new" tricks... ~same payout everyday.. + full CONTROL over my mining ...NOT their "mining" ..if it is "mining" at all ...  Happy mining ...Hashlet-ing everybody... ZiG EDIT: ...in the world of financial markets...it is called "DERIVATIVES" ...Capisco...  |
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October 02, 2014, 09:03:49 PM |
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So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
Same here, nowhere near 50%. Between 25-30% roughly. Initially I thought it was because I started DD late in the day, so that maybe only half of it was within the day the payout was for. But then the rest of the DD should be in the next day, making it +50% but after a few days it's clear that it isn't. And it's the same whether I have LTC Pool as primary and ZenPool as secondary or the other way around. I'm filing a support ticket for every day I'm seeing this but I don't hold much hope. I still have unanswered tickets from two weeks ago |
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October 02, 2014, 09:07:04 PM |
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So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
Same here, nowhere near 50%. Between 25-30% roughly. Initially I thought it was because I started DD late in the day, so that maybe only half of it was within the day the payout was for. But then the rest of the DD should be in the next day, making it +50% but after a few days it's clear that it isn't. And it's the same whether I have LTC Pool as primary and ZenPool as secondary or the other way around. I'm filing a support ticket for every day I'm seeing this but I don't hold much hope. I still have unanswered tickets from two weeks ago Guys, Do you understand that you are wasting you time ...and energy + money ... IN SOME VIRTUAL GAME / CASINO type of thing... Better start playing Poker ...for example... Good luck, ZiG |
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October 02, 2014, 09:42:04 PM |
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Seems like even a "old timers' have been caught in a new GAW "Virtual Casino" game of "...Upgrades...sales...boosts...hashlet this...or hashlets that..." ... I am keeping my REAL mining gear ...happily hashing on WeMineLTC ...no gimmicks ...no "new" tricks... ~same payout everyday.. + full CONTROL over my mining ...NOT their "mining" ..if it is "mining" at all ... Happy mining ...Hashlet-ing everybody... ZiG EDIT: ...in the world of financial markets...it is called "DERIVATIVES" ...Capisco... Totally agree with you Zig in light of information I have now. However, when I bought from "GAWesome" (sarcasm intended) they had a legitimate miner hardware business, a legitimate (if buggy) hosting business and had treated me extremely fairly on every purchase. Maybe that was all part of the long con, but I truly believe that Josh will someday (maybe from jail) justify his ponzi scheme (e.g., "virtual poker") by saying and probably believing that he did it all for the good of the bitcoin community. I think he truly believes he is going gods work. Problem is, it will all fall apart as soon as his inputs (new purchases) are less than outputs (payouts + cash out/sales). Obviously this is why he cannot allow Prime sales. |
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October 02, 2014, 09:45:48 PM |
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So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
Same here, nowhere near 50%. Between 25-30% roughly. Initially I thought it was because I started DD late in the day, so that maybe only half of it was within the day the payout was for. But then the rest of the DD should be in the next day, making it +50% but after a few days it's clear that it isn't. And it's the same whether I have LTC Pool as primary and ZenPool as secondary or the other way around. I'm filing a support ticket for every day I'm seeing this but I don't hold much hope. I still have unanswered tickets from two weeks ago Guys, Do you understand that you are wasting you time ...and energy + money ... IN SOME VIRTUAL GAME / CASINO type of thing... Better start playing Poker ...for example... Good luck, ZiG And you are wasting time repeating this "virtual game" mantra. I guess some people just need to do their daily complaining routine to feel better. |
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October 02, 2014, 10:19:30 PM |
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Anyone find it weird that hashlets are turning into farmville? You have to log in multiple times per day to get max efficiency. Why not have all that stuff auto-enable by default? |
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October 02, 2014, 11:10:46 PM |
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So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
Same here, nowhere near 50%. Between 25-30% roughly. Initially I thought it was because I started DD late in the day, so that maybe only half of it was within the day the payout was for. But then the rest of the DD should be in the next day, making it +50% but after a few days it's clear that it isn't. And it's the same whether I have LTC Pool as primary and ZenPool as secondary or the other way around. I'm filing a support ticket for every day I'm seeing this but I don't hold much hope. I still have unanswered tickets from two weeks ago Guys, Do you understand that you are wasting you time ...and energy + money ... IN SOME VIRTUAL GAME / CASINO type of thing... Better start playing Poker ...for example... Good luck, ZiG And you are wasting time repeating this "virtual game" mantra. I guess some people just need to do their daily complaining routine to feel better. @Hazir...: ...nobody is forcing you to read my post(s) ... If you don't find anything useful in them...click "Ignore" ...and go buy more hashlets, buddy... EDIT...: ...So, Hazir ...what is your opinion / definition of Hashlet(s) ...could you elaborate, PLEASE... ZiG |
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October 02, 2014, 11:55:51 PM |
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So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
Same here, nowhere near 50%. Between 25-30% roughly. Initially I thought it was because I started DD late in the day, so that maybe only half of it was within the day the payout was for. But then the rest of the DD should be in the next day, making it +50% but after a few days it's clear that it isn't. And it's the same whether I have LTC Pool as primary and ZenPool as secondary or the other way around. I'm filing a support ticket for every day I'm seeing this but I don't hold much hope. I still have unanswered tickets from two weeks ago Guys, Do you understand that you are wasting you time ...and energy + money ... IN SOME VIRTUAL GAME / CASINO type of thing... Better start playing Poker ...for example... Good luck, ZiG And you are wasting time repeating this "virtual game" mantra. I guess some people just need to do their daily complaining routine to feel better. @Hazir...: ...nobody is forcing you to read my post(s) ... If you don't find anything useful in them...click "Ignore" ...and go buy more hashlets, buddy... EDIT...: ...So, Hazir ...what is your opinion / definition of Hashlet(s) ...could you elaborate, PLEASE... ZiG Looks like you haven't been reading people's responses. The hashlet has been already explained in a number of threads, this included, but since you obviously have a lot of time to repeat the same question, you'll find a spare minute to use the search function. |
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@Hazir...: ...nobody is forcing you to read my post(s) ... If you don't find anything useful in them...click "Ignore" ...and go buy more hashlets, buddy... EDIT...: ...So, Hazir ...what is your opinion / definition of Hashlet(s) ...could you elaborate, PLEASE... ZiG Looks like you haven't been reading people's responses. The hashlet has been already explained in a number of threads, this included, but since you obviously have a lot of time to repeat the same question, you'll find a spare minute to use the search function. ZiG knows this, as do i, the point is GAW have broken many promises, and at this point, things are not looking well for many... thankfully, i don't have much skin in that game at all - actually i may achieve roi before the scam falls apart or whatever, i'm just tired of their daily stupid drama bs.. ANyhow.. Some other poor GAW-ster accidently sold 4000 USD worth of hashlets on the market for (yes, i'm not kidding) 21.00 USD.. and get this, gaw apparently told him, sorry, all sales final, your out of luck... So, the guy is praying that the loser who bought 4k worth of Mh for 20 USD has a soul and posts to his thread. (WTF kind of company is that)... anyhow, I give up, i'm done logging in, just keep sending me btc daily thanks... :\ Edit - i've not checked out the guys latest update, i'll have to go check it out now.. imagine losing 4k because of some shitty website code, and being slightly careless & tired? sure, it's absolutely his fault, but it's also GAW's for having crappy web interface shit code my 5 year old could have written better with more prompts and clear "Hey, are you sure?" kind of basic bs. :S |
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