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[bitgeek]

This is interesting:  http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/1yh23g/has_anyone_here_sold_their_own_rig_on_ebay_and/cfkvbbk

This was discussed multiple times already and always pops out at least once a month.
To sum it up:
-poster deleted the account
-no proof of transaction
-no negative feedback in the sellers account (and I don't believe a scammed person wouldn't leave it)
-acording to Josh it was a blackmail attempt, and not the only one. You can find at least 2 recent ones on this forum.

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[seedtrue]

"our Prime Hashlets are not just dumbfuck miner toys with a daily payback. They’re going to control the entire HashCoin blockchain. Yes. They will control every transaction. Read this paragraph again, just to be sure you understand every word. "

So, let me get this straight, GAW sells Hashlet Prime, creates HashCoin, then the Primes 'control' the whole blockchain? Yeah, ok.  

I think this just boils down to the fact that Josh does not understand how Blockchains or Cryptos work. He has contradicted himself numerous times about this.

[verloren]

"""My silent partners at GAW built the largest bond trading platform in the world"""

said GAW_CEO

Pretty big statement, huh ?

TREMENDOUS statement. At some point and real soon he's going to have to start naming names. I still want to know how some little tool from New England with no proper education and not much of a background in anything that I can find, has such HUGE friends and no one else in the crypto world does.

He has to be referring to Bonddesk/Tradeweb.  I don't believe there is a larger platform unless he is talking about some particular type of bond.

Josh doesn't say whether his silent partners are in that company (which frankly could mean anything from a low level support desk guy, all the way up to a major player on the Board) .. or if by "built" he means contributed to the technology platform (which would mean any of literally dozens of companies).

I doubt he is lying here.  I could easily say I have friends who run Google.  That wouldn't be a lie either, but it doesn't mean I have an iota of influence over what Google does, nor does it mean that you should invest in a company I start (though I wish that were the measure of diligence lol)..  I think the only way to vette him is to find someone who has done business with him.  Will report back when that task is done.

http://endb-consolidated.aihit.com/00D74CA4/people.htm
Probably Stuart Fraser (partner of Cantor Fitzgerald). Has ownership in GAW and is on the board.

Looks that way: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stuartafraser

Further confirmation:
http://www.cantor.com/public/aboutus/sfraser.html

[bitcoinnoisseur]

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/

Very interested article written by a hardcore koolaid drinker. Gives some insigh to the mentality of someone following the herd.

There's a new post there 

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/#comment-18

[Chris_Sabian]

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/

Very interested article written by a hardcore koolaid drinker. Gives some insigh to the mentality of someone following the herd.

There's a new post there 

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/#comment-18

And it is gone...

[bitcoinnoisseur]

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/

Very interested article written by a hardcore koolaid drinker. Gives some insigh to the mentality of someone following the herd.

There's a new post there  

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/#comment-18

And it is gone...

No it's not.

EDIT. Whoops. Yes it is.

[bitcoinnoisseur]

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/

Very interested article written by a hardcore koolaid drinker. Gives some insigh to the mentality of someone following the herd.

There's a new post there  

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/#comment-18

And it is gone...

No it's not.

EDIT. Whoops. Yes it is.

I'd keep posting it but obviously Josh bought cloudminernews.com. Did they all really need a new venue to suck Josh off?

Here's the post and yes some was copied from an earlier post here:

WOW! You ought take some of your own advice and WAKE THE FUCK UP! There will be NO mining of Hashcoin. There will be NO Hashcoin worth anything more than fractions of a penny after it gets pumped and dumped in a matter of weeks if not days whilst all you nimble minded, spineless jelly fish are all knocking back bowl after bowl of Josh’s koolaid by the ladleful waiting for it to hit $75 or maybe $100. How much did he brainwash you all into thinking trHashcoin will be worth. When the price starts to drop faster than any of his haslet’s payouts have he will most certainly spike the koolaid with something even more enticing that of course you will all bite at. You all bow to an uneducated megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur. One that has to beg you, yes you, to go find new blind-faith followers on Twitter, to go to all media sites to praise him and quiet all those in the know that he can’t ban from his own self-controlled, self-gratifying forum. This is the same man, and I use the word man very loosely, that claims: “one of my best friends runs the largest bond trading company in the world, and the other one of the largest banks in the world.” Seems he has more power and connections in the world than most anyone yet he needs to beg all of you to make him friends. What has to come out of his mouth to make you all WAKE THE FUCK UP? Who would be wise enough to accumulate enough wealth to invest so much in little ole GAW? Maybe Satoshi Nakamoto himself. That’s who Josh’s huge silent partner is. No wait. Even better yet, Josh is Satoshi. He has used Satoshi Gawmoto. Satoshi did say he moved on. He must have meant he was working on Hashcoin. All hail Josh Gawrzatoshi.

[bitgeek]

I'd keep posting it but obviously Josh bought cloudminernews.com. Did they all really need a new venue to suck Josh off?

You sound angry, get a drink, lay down for a bit.

[mutha]

I'd keep posting it but obviously Josh bought cloudminernews.com. Did they all really need a new venue to suck Josh off?

You sound angry, get a drink, lay down for a bit.

I am sure that is what is what Josh's huge bond trader buddy is thinking about doing after he read that "Article" 

[bitcoinnoisseur]

I'd keep posting it but obviously Josh bought cloudminernews.com. Did they all really need a new venue to suck Josh off?

You sound angry, get a drink lay down a bit.

Not angry in the least and I don't drink. I got out and profited off hardware converted to Primes. That doesn't mean I can't detest an uneducated, scamming scumbag preying on the weak.

[bitcoinnoisseur]

I'd keep posting it but obviously Josh bought cloudminernews.com. Did they all really need a new venue to suck Josh off?

You sound angry, get a drink, lay down for a bit.

I am sure that is what is what Josh's huge bond trader buddy is thinking about doing after he read that "Article" 

Don't forget about his buddy that runs the world's largest bank. He's gonna need a few stiff ones as well.

[bitcoinnoisseur]

Well payouts are done. I guess GAW decided they didn't need to pay me at all for my Primes yesterday before I finally sold them all. I wonder how many times I'll have to login to cloud.zenminer and HT to figure out how to dump/convert all my HP's. I'm quite sure that will turn into a fiasco as well. Probably a whomever gets to click and refresh fast enough lotto to actually make a buck before the whole thing implodes.

[Arthur38]

https://i.imgur.com/tivjIQq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Fo55N3A.jpg

From https://hashtalk.org/topic/17028/miners-miners-miners

Look like they have miner

[chmick]

http://cloudminernews.com/the-words-josh-wont-let-me-say/

Very interested article written by a hardcore koolaid drinker. Gives some insigh to the mentality of someone following the herd.

That is beyond a koolaid drinker... clearly written by an uneducated journalistic poser, that has no clue of investing or what "big vendors want". I mean he can be trying to be hip and cool and all that. But if he wrote an article about me and my company like that, I would have an attorney sitting on his front step waiting to serve some papers.

That kind of writing will not attract any whales, vendors, investment bankers, venture capitalist or anything else.... Seriously WTF are these people thinking? This is beyond stupid...  

This is a huge, blatant pump.  This new 'hashcoin' is going to failure in a huge way.

"our Prime Hashlets are not just dumbfuck miner toys with a daily payback. They’re going to control the entire HashCoin blockchain. Yes. They will control every transaction. Read this paragraph again, just to be sure you understand every word. "

So, let me get this straight, GAW sells Hashlet Prime, creates HashCoin, then the Primes 'control' the whole blockchain? Yeah, ok.  

What is amazing about this whole thing is how little GAW understands the roots and reasons for success of bitcoin.  This paragraph (though written by a GAW fanboy, or more likely employee/co-conspirator of Josh), and similar statements made by Josh about how Primes will control the blockchain, proves that far from de-centralized, hashcoin would be under the total control of one company that controls the Primes: GAW.   That is assuming, of course, that there is even such a thing as a Prime and its not all a virtual coin simulation/game which seems at least equally likely.

There is no way any legitimate retailer would take hashcoin when it is controlled by a single company with zero track record in finance.  No way ever.

I must say on the paper hashcoin seems attractive  .

But some remarks are correct  what lack to bitcoin (which decentralized and worth 9 billion dollars ) is adoption by the sales company (amazon etc ..) even if BTC is proven safe from a software point of view .
So I'm still sceptical about adoption by big companies for a coin which is controlled by only one company .

On the other hand , if I put myself on the other side (the sales side) I would be interested by  a coin than can only be spent in my shop (a way to force customer to buy at my place) and than allow me to decrease payment cost  (cost much less than credit card) .

especially if all people who are running the  mining operation are only paid with that coin . (a potential amount of trapped customer).

So for the moment I stick to my position . Divide the risk by 50% : selling 50% of my primes so I ROIed and mine hashpoints with the rest .

The rest of my money will go to some other BTC cloud mining.

[suchmoon]

https://i.imgur.com/tivjIQq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Fo55N3A.jpg

From https://hashtalk.org/topic/17028/miners-miners-miners

Look like they have miner

This looks like a decent number of S4s. A rough count shows it's reaching into a PH/s range: one shelf holds 5, one segment (4 shelves) is 20, and there seem to be ~16 segments in one row across the warehouse (320). That's ~600 TH/s in one row. They seem to have some S3s scattered around too. Lights are on, looks like hashing.

I hope they'll make it easy for us and publish the mining addresses finally.

[geegaw]

Leo: And who are the "people with outstanding business experience" that you are referring to?

GAW_CEO:  My silent partners at GAW built the largest bond trading platform in the world

Stuart Fraser is Vice Chairman and partner of Cantor Fitzgerald, L.P.  Mr. Fraser joined Cantor Fitzgerald in 1983 with Howard Lutnick, the Chairman and CEO, and the two were the first to matriculate from Cantor Fitzgerald's Training Program.

 
Mr. Fraser serves on the Board of Directors and has ownership interests in Great Auk Wireless, an Internet provider and Union Street Media, a Website developer.  

WOW !!!

The first bit of real news we have seen from Homero and it is indeed good, no great news !!

Why is this not being screamed from the roof tops for heaven's sake. This is the major major boost crypto currency needs !! I mean to have such an illustrious market maker like Cantor Fitzgerald investing in crypto coins is a win win for every single coin !!

Someone needs to contact the Wall Street Journal, Boombergs, and every other major financial news outlet and inform them that Hemero Garza just confirmed that Cantor Fitgerald is investing heavily in the new age crypto currency game.

Someone must have contacts to news outlets??  TO THE MOON WE GO !!!

only one I can immediately find is CNN

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/tips/

Hurry people use your collective resources to spread this fantastic news, Cantor Fitzgerald is making a massive play in crypto currencies confirmed by Hermero Gaza CEO of GaW COins and GAw MineRs

[suchmoon]

If you want to discuss and debate the merits of ltcgear, point me to the thread, and we can debate. As far as I understand, this thread is to discuss the merits of GAW and hashlets. So you should probably try and stay close to the topic, rather than dropping to ad hominem.

As for your signature - I did not see any LTC signature campaign on our forum.
It means either: 1. You working for LTC trying to promote their stuff. 2. You are fanboy and you think LTC is the best and only one legit cloud mining. 3. You have some kind of deal with LTC to promote them.

I get the impression that your judgement is biased and you can't be trusted. That is all.

Login with the wrong account to post that?

Either way I'm done with this nonsense. Both of you on ignore.

Put me on your ignore list too.... you are annoying me also.

Thank you for ignoring me kupan787. This in a way proves my point.

As for that guy with multiple accounts... This is also a common tactics on this forum. I could bet you there are more of them on both sides of the fence.
I read a topic in meta about a user with over 40 accounts.

You missed the part where you replied from your sock account maku and were linked to all those other socks.

[suchmoon]

I had to post this cuz i thought it was pretty funny...

http://gawhsi.com/aboutus_light

"Josh Garza is the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of GAW High-Speed Internet Inc and Optima Computers, the business from which GAW viagra online order was born." 

I would guess ROI in that business is better than in mining.

[suchmoon]

There is so many running around here crying about anything they can try to make look bad about GAW.   It is amazing.     While I never trusted GAW/Zen 100%, I was able to invest a dozen bitcoins and get the full amount back in less than three months.   I also have a pretty good amount of Primes and Zens left.  (>100 of each)  

Succeeding required me to change my plans multiple times and I did get hit with some bad events.   However the environment there isn't anything like the people here make it out to be.   Yes there are problems, but there are also opportunities.  

I don't know how this coin they are working on is going to pan out, but that is the game now.   Since I'm unsure, I'm not going to invest anymore there.   If things change, then I might.  One thing is for sure though, I'm not going to take investment advice from this thread.    

I don't think there is a lot of dispute about early profits. Easy math, someone bought in at $16 or less, cashed out at $30+, who can argue with that.

It doesn't however make everything that GAW does suddenly look bright and shiny. Can you honestly believe that with the current atmosphere on HT you would hear much from the later buyers, you know the ones who bought in at $40, $50 or even at $70? Touting a $100 price on Primes, "halting" sales while allowing resellers to sell "old stock", that's gotta raise some red flags for anyone but the most hard core fans. And there was plenty of that kind of shenanigans going on and still is.

If anything or anyone is making GAW look bad, it's themselves. Most of the crap that gets posted about them is quotes straight from their officials, their sites, and their rabid fans.

[KC6TTR]

You got hand it to Homero [ Garza; Homero Joshua (East Longmeadow, MA) H. Josh Garza, Chief Executive Officer ] he really has suckered in the most guillable people on the planet, hook line and sinker.

Trying to read that vomitous site of his, they are all happy clappy and giddy about their fantasy coin over taking BTC, giggling about which stores they would like to see accepting it. What their first purchase with their new shiny plastic card will be using it.

Utterly sad. The real scum are the mods-resellers egging them on. These sad little people truly believe they will be mining a coin, each debating the other about diffuclities and network blocks and how their little fake miner things will be pointed to them and start hashing away.

Homero absolutely knows what he is doing. Trolls by now and again, claiming the first round was a sellout and as predicated over-subscribed. Disappears for a day or two to apologies and claim he is 'busy with contracts'  letting those sad freaks believe that that means he must be signing the contracts with the first round investors.

Really really sad that they are all lapping it up. But as one can see by that incredibly nauseating childish forum he created, those that have flocked to it and embrace and actually use all the childish gimmicks it has to offer, this make believe fairy tale he is presenting to them fits right in.

Homero has it all figured out but alas it will all catch up with him. These schemes always end in tears.  

Exactly...

We need a BTC, LTC. Doge tip-bot... May be time to issue a bounty to develop one so we can reward good posts.