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December 31, 2017, 12:51:20 PM
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Everything I wanted bitcoin to be when I first discovered it. 


Funny that everyone lands on Monero when they know what to look for Smiley

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December 31, 2017, 01:04:06 PM
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what are the current transaction costs for monero?
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December 31, 2017, 02:05:26 PM
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I just made two xmr deposits to Kraken, but after 30 confirmations they are not visible there. Have you experienced this kind of delay? How long will it take? The xmr deposit address is definitely valid.

Usually xmr has been visible after 15 confirmations.

Hello! Never had such problems, always brought everything through the monero and very quickly pass the transaction, most likely the problem with Kraken. Contact technical support.

It seems to me that it's too early to contact technical support. Maybe you need to wait. I also transferred these coins and I had to wait a few hours while they were credited to my deposit.

I contacted support right away. They have not answered yet. Coins can not be seen either yet on Kraken.

With https://xmrchain.net/ I can prove I have made the deposit. Transaction can be detected by using both standard address and Krakens integrated address.

I just made a third small xmr deposit to Kraken. After about 20 confirmations it is not visible on Kraken site. Could somebody else make a small xmr deposit on Kraken to test what happens?

The deposits are still not visible on Kraken. They have not answered. Anybody else have these issues?
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December 31, 2017, 02:08:19 PM
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Congress was great, really helped the project (& community) a lot, as well as our public relations & visibility in the space of free projects.

what are the current transaction costs for monero?
https://getmonero.org/2017/12/11/A-note-on-fees.html


The deposits are still not visible on Kraken. They have not answered. Anybody else have these issues?
Never had issues depositing. Are you seeing the TX coming is as unconfirmed in the Kraken frontend?
Support has a lot to do, they will answer you.
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The deposits are still not visible on Kraken. They have not answered. Anybody else have these issues?
Never had issues depositing. Are you seeing the TX coming is as unconfirmed in the Kraken frontend?
Support has a lot to do, they will answer you.

I do not see anywhere any of incoming transactions. By that "frontend", do you mean the "account" view on Kraken? The deposits made earlier are visible and status is success. But these two what I made yesterday and this one that I made today, nothing.

Here
https://xmrchain.net/
I can see my transactions are confirmed for hundreds of times. And they have gone to right and valid address on Kraken.

If anyone would like to test and send like 0.1 xmr to Kraken.
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This is the message from Kraken to its customers 28.12.2017

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This message is regarding the schedule for fiat deposit and withdrawal processing around the New Year’s holiday.

Please note that for clients who use SMBC to fund their accounts, fiat deposits and withdrawals to and from your Kraken account will be impacted by the the New Year’s holiday as described below. We recommend that you plan your fiat funding activities accordingly. Cryptocurrency deposits and withdrawals will not be affected.

All dates/times mentioned below are Japan Standard Time (JST).

New Year’s holiday fiat deposits:

The deadline for receiving fiat deposits is Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 11:59PM (JST). Deposits not received by this time will not be received until after Thursday, January 4th. Please note that we cannot guarantee that deposits sent before this day will be received by the cut-off time.

New Year’s holiday fiat withdrawals:

The deadline for sending fiat withdrawals is no later than Thursday, December 28th 2017 at 3 PM (JST). Withdrawal requests made after this cutoff time will not be processed until January 4th.

Any deposits and withdrawals made after the above dates will not be processed until on or after January 4th, 2018. Also, please note that if there are issues with your deposits or withdrawals, such as missing reference codes or account name mismatches your funding request may be delayed until January 4th.

Finally, we are anticipating a surge in the number of deposit/withdrawal applications on January 4th, so please be aware that it may take slightly longer than usual for some funding applications to be processed.

Thank you for your understanding.

The Kraken Team


So as far as I understand it is just about fiat and about that specific japanese bank. Not to do anything with crypto.

Kraken is anyway quite laggy. I hope once it is fine again I see my xmr there.
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It just show that release date had not come out.  Price was decreasing last months altho sort beta 0.9 release was long time out. None out of core team knew and expected it will happen today.
Price of Monero decreased from 0.0015 to 0.001 BTC in  2015. I doubt at end of 2016 will be only as high as it was in beginning of 2015 but much higher. Most possibly Monero will be coin that will gain most in 2016 out of top20 by capitalizations coins.


Hydrogen Helix is real start of Monero. Monero ended qualifications and set ready on start of crypto race.


I sort of speculate we will get similar New Years present as we did 2 years ago when we got 0.9.0 Hydrogen Helix. So I went to check 2 years ago posts and saw this one. I was actually for once right, since Monero was the best performing coin of 2016.

It is also funny that lots of posts back then was about multisig.

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December 31, 2017, 03:39:54 PM
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This is going even more weird. Now to Monero deposit addresses vanished from Kraken. There has been nothing "expiring" status at these addresses, like there should be for many days before an address vanishes. The addresses just were gone. Before I found out that the addresses were gone there was some text someting like "Tier 3 is not eneough for these funds". But now the addresses are just gone.

Luckily I took a screenshot where is current time and valid address, so I can proof that I have sent the xmr to address wich have been valid at the time of transaction.

But this is truly getting me nervous.

They still have not answered anything.
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So as you can see, there is a notification at Kraken main site.

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The service is under heavy load and performance is degraded. Upgrades coming soon. Read more.
https://www.kraken.com/

Kraken is now so down, that even trying to click and read that note is difficult.

Now when there is no xmr deposit addresses on my Kraken account, do you think they will claim that I have sent the xmr to an address which is not valid? Well that is not anyway true, I have been very careful about this issue, and checked that the deposit address is not even expiring, that it is valid for sure. Like it has. I have even the screenshot of it.

I recommend now everybody to be very careful with Kraken. I want my monero back.

The amount of xmr is not much in compared to my total xmr so I do not has to go too wild, but anyway it is a quite a lot in fiat, and will be even more in future. So this not really a funny situation.
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December 31, 2017, 04:35:52 PM
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So as you can see, there is a notification at Kraken main site.

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The service is under heavy load and performance is degraded. Upgrades coming soon. Read more.
https://www.kraken.com/

Kraken is now so down, that even trying to click and read that note is difficult.

Now when there is no xmr deposit addresses on my Kraken account, do you think they will claim that I have sent the xmr to an address which is not valid? Well that is not anyway true, I have been very careful about this issue, and checked that the deposit address is not even expiring, that it is valid for sure. Like it has. I have even the screenshot of it.

I recommend now everybody to be very careful with Kraken. I want my monero back.

The amount of xmr is not much in compared to my total xmr so I do not has to go too wild, but anyway it is a quite a lot in fiat, and will be even more in future. So this not really a funny situation.

Dude, this is all about Kraken and nothing to do with Monero. I can understand your frustration and nervousness, but you know the risks that you face when dealing with these exchanges. Anyway, you shouldn't need to worry much. I highly doubt Kraken will want to risk their reputation for a few thousand dollars. Just wait til it all gets better, then if your deposit doesn't show up, go through their support channels. Everyone has to be careful with Kraken and exchanges at any time. Hopefully you aren't using them to store your Monero!

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December 31, 2017, 04:51:08 PM
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what are the current transaction costs for monero?

you can pick it out of here, from monero.how

TRANSACTION FEES PAID (LAST 100 TRANSACTIONS)
Txn fee (XMR/BTC)   Txn fee       USD

Monero (lowest)     0.003000   $ 1.0585
Bitcoin (lowest)    0.001800   $ 25.3796
Monero (median)   0.012000   $ 4.2339
Bitcoin (median)   0.003157   $ 44.5194
Monero (highest)   0.062000   $ 21.8749
Bitcoin (highest)   0.019959   $ 281.4137
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Everything I wanted bitcoin to be when I first discovered it.


Funny that everyone lands on Monero when they know what to look for Smiley

Ya it took me a few weeks to find it, and the daemon wouldn't run on my laptop, but I was already hooked.  Didn't get it going til Hydrogen Helix  Tongue

It just show that release date had not come out.  Price was decreasing last months altho sort beta 0.9 release was long time out. None out of core team knew and expected it will happen today.
Price of Monero decreased from 0.0015 to 0.001 BTC in  2015. I doubt at end of 2016 will be only as high as it was in beginning of 2015 but much higher. Most possibly Monero will be coin that will gain most in 2016 out of top20 by capitalizations coins.


Hydrogen Helix is real start of Monero. Monero ended qualifications and set ready on start of crypto race.


I sort of speculate we will get similar New Years present as we did 2 years ago when we got 0.9.0 Hydrogen Helix. So I went to check 2 years ago posts and saw this one. I was actually for once right, since Monero was the best performing coin of 2016.

It is also funny that lots of posts back then was about multisig.

Similar thoughts...  Excited for New Years Day, but not really expecting anything, at the same time.  The 2016 gift was fantastic, but I try not to hope for such again.  It won't be long anyway, no more than a few weeks I think for the next release.  Here comes multisig - soon has arrived  Cheesy
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So as you can see, there is a notification at Kraken main site.

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The service is under heavy load and performance is degraded. Upgrades coming soon. Read more.
https://www.kraken.com/

Kraken is now so down, that even trying to click and read that note is difficult.

Now when there is no xmr deposit addresses on my Kraken account, do you think they will claim that I have sent the xmr to an address which is not valid? Well that is not anyway true, I have been very careful about this issue, and checked that the deposit address is not even expiring, that it is valid for sure. Like it has. I have even the screenshot of it.

I recommend now everybody to be very careful with Kraken. I want my monero back.

The amount of xmr is not much in compared to my total xmr so I do not has to go too wild, but anyway it is a quite a lot in fiat, and will be even more in future. So this not really a funny situation.

Dude, this is all about Kraken and nothing to do with Monero. I can understand your frustration and nervousness, but you know the risks that you face when dealing with these exchanges. Anyway, you shouldn't need to worry much. I highly doubt Kraken will want to risk their reputation for a few thousand dollars. Just wait til it all gets better, then if your deposit doesn't show up, go through their support channels. Everyone has to be careful with Kraken and exchanges at any time. Hopefully you aren't using them to store your Monero!

Yea I know. Monero is just fine. Tansactions are fast. It is all about Kraken. I always am careful with the exchanges. I do not store any XMR on exhanges. I have been Monero holder since 2014. And I have held them in cold wallets.
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I wanne wish everybody a happy newyear and a healty 2018 ( and the years after as well ofcourse Smiley )
hopefully we reach 800 usd in 2018, huge things like hardware wallet and DNM adoption ahead should make
this possible, but i have this strange feeling that all of this went to fast and we wont see big changes upwards
in 2018 ... its just a feeling, maybe somebody here could change this with good arguments

Monero is experiencing an exponential (maybe. I dunno, but the pace is picking up rapidly) increase in development growth to go with the interest, and price growth.  Everything is moving faster.

   What are the biggest complaints in crypto right now, besides the constants of exchanges and wallets?  It's cost, and confirmation time.  What's coming to Monero, to join with all that great stuff we had before?  Why, Bulletproofs, of course!    Order of magnitude cheaper transactions, faster transactions, added to 2 min block time, blocks that adjust to usage, fees that reduce even further with usage, Not to mention our friend Fungi Billy T.  How can you not be just insanely bullish?  Usability is being constantly improved, and Hardware Wallets just around the corner will help immensely.
  
While it's no secret that I'm always bullish on Monero, it's not just the pretty logo that gets me.  Actually I fucking hate orange.  But it's the only project in crypto with the ideals behind it, and embraced by the devs, that call to me.  Everything I wanted bitcoin to be when I first discovered it.  Price appreciation is exciting and rewarding;  It is nothing to the giddy feeling I get when I consider the accomplishments thus far, and what lies ahead imminently, as we close rapidly on the 4 year mark.  Happy New Year, my friends.  It is going to be fantastic!

We are all extremely Bullish on Monero long run the problem is all this stupid money thats in the scene now that is just at the mercy of the money-men and the market is being moved by emotion. The big cash cows are flexing their muscles and you can have the best thing since sliced bread and if the hedge funds can't get enough of it to make it worth their while then they will pass it up. Coins are being seen by the massive influx of speculators as all being the same and are only being bought and sold for profits sake not as investments so there is no way to really see whats going to happen. My forecast and others is more of a guess of when the market comes to it's senses and most of the stupid money has been stripped from the sheeples pockets and the market gets back to fundamentals. People are buying just because a coin is dons 20% not even knowing it's because it's going to get delisted thinking its going to get pumped. Lol the market is in it's insane mode. But BTC dropping is proving it's starting to become normalized and It is actually happening faster than I thought it would, the drooling masses are not so easily fooled this time around. Not as many will be left holding swampland in Florida (BCN LOL).

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! I't be happier New Year if coinbase didn't have my BTC frozen the fucks, down 30% because of those Cocksuckers. Still waiting on my fucking ticket.

Congress was great, really helped the project (& community) a lot, as well as our public relations & visibility in the space of free projects.

what are the current transaction costs for monero?
https://getmonero.org/2017/12/11/A-note-on-fees.html


The deposits are still not visible on Kraken. They have not answered. Anybody else have these issues?
Never had issues depositing. Are you seeing the TX coming is as unconfirmed in the Kraken frontend?
Support has a lot to do, they will answer you.

This seems to be a trend where the exchanges are just ignoring support tickets, I mean they can hire someone to just give a reply as a opposed to a canned response saying that a fucking human read the damn thing anyway!

What is this Congress thing you speak of, got a link?

The deposits are still not visible on Kraken. They have not answered. Anybody else have these issues?
Never had issues depositing. Are you seeing the TX coming is as unconfirmed in the Kraken frontend?
Support has a lot to do, they will answer you.

I do not see anywhere any of incoming transactions. By that "frontend", do you mean the "account" view on Kraken? The deposits made earlier are visible and status is success. But these two what I made yesterday and this one that I made today, nothing.

Here
https://xmrchain.net/
I can see my transactions are confirmed for hundreds of times. And they have gone to right and valid address on Kraken.

If anyone would like to test and send like 0.1 xmr to Kraken.

I'll give you my kraken address if you want and send it back to you but coinbase has all my funds locked up (meager as they are).

I sent my XMR there and after finding out I couldn't do anything because I'm US I sent it all back to polo. And their Margin system is all in USD! WTF

This is going even more weird. Now to Monero deposit addresses vanished from Kraken. There has been nothing "expiring" status at these addresses, like there should be for many days before an address vanishes. The addresses just were gone. Before I found out that the addresses were gone there was some text someting like "Tier 3 is not eneough for these funds". But now the addresses are just gone.

Luckily I took a screenshot where is current time and valid address, so I can proof that I have sent the xmr to address wich have been valid at the time of transaction.

But this is truly getting me nervous.

They still have not answered anything.

Don't get worried, It's over the holidays so there will be delays everywhere, they are NOT a scam exchange and do follow Canadian Banking Laws.

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I'll give you my kraken address if you want and send it back to you but coinbase has all my funds locked up (meager as they are).

I sent my XMR there and after finding out I couldn't do anything because I'm US I sent it all back to polo. And their Margin system is all in USD! WTF

That would be worth of trying, but not today since kraken is totally down.


Don't get worried, It's over the holidays so there will be delays everywhere, they are NOT a scam exchange and do follow Canadian Banking Laws.

I know they are not a scam. The only worry is, that they claim me sending xmr to a expired address. Which I have not done.

Canadian Banking Laws? But they are in US California? But anyway they have reliable legislation there too.
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Monero Hardware Wallet.  Projected to be $10-$20.  Cool.  I'd buy a stack of them for gifts.



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December 31, 2017, 06:14:20 PM
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I know they are not a scam.
Then you should have confidence that your funds will be registered, if you persist in seeking support.  If that fails, send them a demand letter.

Did you send to an integrated address? If not, did you use any required payment ID?  If not, it may take some human intervention before your account is credited. 

But, again, this is a speculation thread, and the topic should be moved to the kraken thread, please.

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I'll give you my kraken address if you want and send it back to you but coinbase has all my funds locked up (meager as they are).

I sent my XMR there and after finding out I couldn't do anything because I'm US I sent it all back to polo. And their Margin system is all in USD! WTF

That would be worth of trying, but not today since kraken is totally down.


Don't get worried, It's over the holidays so there will be delays everywhere, they are NOT a scam exchange and do follow Canadian Banking Laws.

I know they are not a scam. The only worry is, that they claim me sending xmr to a expired address. Which I have not done.

Canadian Banking Laws? But they are in US California? But anyway they have reliable legislation there too.

Yeah, I think they opened a US outlet trying to Get their USD Fiat squared away, I have no clue if it's working or not now. the EFT was but not the CC which is why I wanted to use it. EFT sux.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7n83mc/an_update_on_the_monero_hardware_wallet_with/

Monero Hardware Wallet.  Projected to be $10-$20.  Cool.  I'd buy a stack of them for gifts.

Ohh yeah that looks like a great deal! I'm in. Keep Zooko away from it or he'll try to backdoor it for TPTB! Smiley Who'd doing the software? I also heard there will be DIY instructions, do you have a link for those?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7n83mc/an_update_on_the_monero_hardware_wallet_with/

Monero Hardware Wallet.  Projected to be $10-$20.  Cool.  I'd buy a stack of them for gifts.

Ohh yeah that looks like a great deal! I'm in. Keep Zooko away from it or he'll try to backdoor it for TPTB! Smiley Who'd doing the software? I also heard there will be DIY instructions, do you have a link for those?

No idea.  I know how much you like reddit, but better you than me Grin  Go search for it lol!
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7n83mc/an_update_on_the_monero_hardware_wallet_with/

Monero Hardware Wallet.  Projected to be $10-$20.  Cool.  I'd buy a stack of them for gifts.

Ohh yeah that looks like a great deal! I'm in. Keep Zooko away from it or he'll try to backdoor it for TPTB! Smiley Who'd doing the software? I also heard there will be DIY instructions, do you have a link for those?

No idea.  I know how much you like reddit, but better you than me Grin  Go search for it lol!

LOL, I can't search reddit! I can't even follow threads on it. I post and can't even find a response. That site blows my left nut.

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