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December 16, 2014, 06:52:11 AM Last edit: December 16, 2014, 10:33:24 AM by peled1986 |
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Well maybe they should stop the sale now that they won't be spending the next 6 months hiring developers to make the android app?..1700 bitcoins should do the trick, No?
"This isn't changing their concept, it's using already proven and developed code for the messaging infrastructure, everything else needs to be made from scratch (built in wallet (which will be first mobile Counterparty wallet) reward & airdrop systems, anti-spam filters, the advertising platform, etc). There is a lot more to the project than just the core messaging protocol." Let's be clear you HOPE to be the first. SENDIT is developing a very similar concept, messenging with wallet, Telegram in fact so GEMS lost a lot of shine in some people's eyes suddenly. Gems offer revolutionary features no one else is currently developing: - built in counterparty mobile wallet: to enable transfer of value in addition to communications. Initially users will be able to send each other only BTC and GEMS, however as development progresses we are likely to expand the wallet functionality based on the preference of our user base. Counterparty is the most advanced "bitcoin 2.0" platform with a solid development team and user growth ( http://counterparty.io/news/). The recent announcement by Overstock.com ( http://www.overstock.com/) that they will utilize the Counterparty platform ( http://counterparty.io/) for asset trading highlights that we made the right decision. - Reward and Airdrop system to reward users: to enable users to profit from using and promoting the application, incentivizing viral growth GEMS is aimed towards the common user who doesn’t have a crypto currency background. Since GEMS are rewarded for network contribution, these users will own GEMS just from operating within the network. The value of social networks is tied directly to the number of active users. In a fair model, if users bring the value to the network, they should also be rewarded according to their contribution. - powerful advertising platform with anti-spam filters: to effectively solves the spam problem in communication networks and allows users to finally publish their hashtag openly without fear of receiving uncontrolled amounts of unsolicited messages. Creating attention rewards economy model. The top monetization tool for social networks is targeted ads. Giants like Google and Facebook derive the majority of their revenue from ads. Potential advertising models for Gems: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg9017388;topicseen#msg9017388
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December 16, 2014, 07:03:30 AM Last edit: December 16, 2014, 07:34:17 AM by reRaise |
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The Gems team asked for feedback. The community said it was most concerned about the timeline. The Gems team promptly found a solution.
And now the trolls are deeply upset. This sums it up, this update just put Gems on steroids. 1 shot made multiple tasks nailed, genius
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December 16, 2014, 07:47:19 AM |
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דני עבודה יפה שיזדיינו הטרולים ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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December 16, 2014, 08:03:58 AM |
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The Gems team asked for feedback. The community said it was most concerned about the timeline. The Gems team promptly found a solution.
And now the trolls are deeply upset. This sums it up, this update just put Gems on steroids. 1 shot made multiple tasks nailed, genius yes, thats it.
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December 16, 2014, 09:15:41 AM |
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Bravo Gems team for making a good adjustment. Telegram is open source so why not use it.
If this means the Android will be out as well in a few weeks then I am sold. Waiting till June would have been a disaster. Now we can get the app out and start spreading it to our friends now.
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December 16, 2014, 10:11:46 AM |
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So with this new road map do you have any predictions for when airdrops would be part of the app? It would be great if the app got popular even before the airdrops but it seems like airdrops is the killer function for marketing GEMS.
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December 16, 2014, 10:41:08 AM |
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Funny, im doing research and i come to find that this "new" idea was actually copied from SendChat. Smh, i prefer a team that is transparent and not with this bs.
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December 16, 2014, 11:02:33 AM |
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Funny, im doing research and i come to find that this "new" idea was actually copied from SendChat. Smh, i prefer a team that is transparent and not with this bs.
You are an obvious troll/sockpuppet-account. Your making SendChat looks amateur compared to Gems with your comments. If SendChat marketing only rely on hired trolls, the project is already dead because no one will take it seriously. Help everyone and stfu ok ? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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December 16, 2014, 11:06:27 AM |
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Funny, im doing research and i come to find that this "new" idea was actually copied from SendChat. Smh, i prefer a team that is transparent and not with this bs.
You are an obvious troll/sockpuppet-account. Your making SendChat looks amateur compared to Gems with your comments. If SendChat marketing only rely on hired trolls, the project is already dead because no one will take it seriously. Help everyone and stfu ok ? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I have nothing to do with SendChat or Gems, just a simple average person commenting my thought, go ahead and make assumptions.
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peled1986 (OP)
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December 16, 2014, 11:08:11 AM |
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Funny, im doing research and i come to find that this "new" idea was actually copied from SendChat. Smh, i prefer a team that is transparent and not with this bs.
You are an obvious troll/sockpuppet-account. Your making SendChat looks amateur compared to Gems with your comments. If SendChat marketing only rely on hired trolls, the project is already dead because no one will take it seriously. Help everyone and stfu ok ? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I have nothing to do with SendChat or Gems, just a simple average person commenting my thought, go ahead and make assumptions. While working on our iOS proof-of-concept version for Gems, we have kept evaluating different options for messaging infrastructure, including homegrown, open source and even commercial solutions. After much heated internal debate and evaluation (Surespot, Textsecure, Telegram), we ultimately decided to leverage Telegram's infrastructure.
The evaluation started long time before SendChat announcement, and their decision ins't a factor as we have different set of crypto features/model. You can be sure that publishing our announcement is not when we started working on Telegram integration. SendChat is an interesting project and we wish them "good luck"!
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December 16, 2014, 11:12:09 AM |
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Funny, im doing research and i come to find that this "new" idea was actually copied from SendChat. Smh, i prefer a team that is transparent and not with this bs.
You are an obvious troll/sockpuppet-account. Your making SendChat looks amateur compared to Gems with your comments. If SendChat marketing only rely on hired trolls, the project is already dead because no one will take it seriously. Help everyone and stfu ok ? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I have nothing to do with SendChat or Gems, just a simple average person commenting my thought, go ahead and make assumptions. While working on our iOS proof-of-concept version for Gems, we have kept evaluating different options for messaging infrastructure, including homegrown, open source and even commercial solutions. After much heated internal debate and evaluation (Surespot, Textsecure, Telegram), we ultimately decided to leverage Telegram's infrastructure.
The evaluation started before SendChat announcement, and their decision ins't a factor as we have different set of crypto features/model. You can be sure that publishing our announcement is not when we started working on Telegram integration. SendChat is an interesting project and we wish them "good luck"! Lol, SendChat has had Telegram intergrated since their first post. -.- Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880647.0
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December 16, 2014, 11:17:23 AM Last edit: December 16, 2014, 11:50:49 AM by peled1986 |
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Funny, im doing research and i come to find that this "new" idea was actually copied from SendChat. Smh, i prefer a team that is transparent and not with this bs.
You are an obvious troll/sockpuppet-account. Your making SendChat looks amateur compared to Gems with your comments. If SendChat marketing only rely on hired trolls, the project is already dead because no one will take it seriously. Help everyone and stfu ok ? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I have nothing to do with SendChat or Gems, just a simple average person commenting my thought, go ahead and make assumptions. While working on our iOS proof-of-concept version for Gems, we have kept evaluating different options for messaging infrastructure, including homegrown, open source and even commercial solutions. After much heated internal debate and evaluation (Surespot, Textsecure, Telegram), we ultimately decided to leverage Telegram's infrastructure.
The evaluation started before SendChat announcement, and their decision ins't a factor as we have different set of crypto features/model. You can be sure that publishing our announcement is not when we started working on Telegram integration. SendChat is an interesting project and we wish them "good luck"! Lol, SendChat has had Telegram intergrated since their first post. -.- Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880647.0We can read well, SendChat first post was December 02. Gems has been getting feedback regarding the Android delay since mid September. we are committed to listen to the Gems community, the project will be executed to the best of our ability.
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December 16, 2014, 12:14:36 PM Last edit: December 16, 2014, 03:28:10 PM by reRaise |
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Funny, im doing research and i come to find that this "new" idea was actually copied from SendChat. Smh, i prefer a team that is transparent and not with this bs.
You are an obvious troll/sockpuppet-account. Your making SendChat looks amateur compared to Gems with your comments. If SendChat marketing only rely on hired trolls, the project is already dead because no one will take it seriously. Help everyone and stfu ok ? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) He is definitely a sockpuppet and awful at it. It's not even worth it to compare the two since Gems is lightyears ahead on all fronts. It is one of the first real attempts to bring bitcoin to the average person in a non technical way and these people don't visit bitcointalk, so these incoherent comments won't have much of an effect. I can introduce Gems to my friends who even don't know much about Bitcoin. That's the thing we need to see, an app on top of Bitcoin bringing Crypto to the masses that is consumer friendly AND features wise it has an edge above major social media networks. It all comes down to marketing, i hope Gems team raises more so they have some deep pockets to get acknowledged in the mainstream industry.
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December 16, 2014, 01:25:50 PM |
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December 16, 2014, 05:58:37 PM |
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nice angle of the story. I am so sick of hearing "bringing bitcoin to the masses" lol... this might be the first real plan I have seen that actually can work. Now with the Android coming out soon I think things are falling into line. Any updates when I can get Gems for Android??
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December 16, 2014, 07:20:46 PM |
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nice angle of the story. I am so sick of hearing "bringing bitcoin to the masses" lol... this might be the first real plan I have seen that actually can work. Now with the Android coming out soon I think things are falling into line. Any updates when I can get Gems for Android?? I think at the same time as iOS on Dec 30th not sure though
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December 17, 2014, 08:28:54 AM |
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Well done neuro, finally some sense is being spoken about all the red flags here.
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December 17, 2014, 08:52:48 AM |
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1. iOS basic release (50% fund release, or min 750 BTC) The beta release of Gems will support instant messaging, push notifications, new user registration and login, contact directory and display the GEMZs wallet. Release server backend which supports both the cloud instant messaging and counterparty integration. Holy. Fuck. So the whole INTERESTING and MOST IMPORTANT aspect of Gemz (the airdrop algorithm, the trust score regulation and threshold levels, and how these will interact with Counterparty to distribute Gemz automatically and correctly across the network) isn't even REQUIRED for the devs to cash 750 BTC? The entire innovation that this whole project needs to operate at the most fundamental level isn't even required at the beginning? The app they are releasing will be a basic shell messaging app with some fancy Gemz designs and your own wallet that doesn't do anything. THIS is the most trivial part of the whole project and they get 750 BTC!? Honestly, this would make Koinify lose all of its credibility as a crowdfunding platform. Milestone/Checkpoints are utterly crucial to get right if you are putting this many people at risk. Koinify can't even recognize that a shell app release is about 5% of progress in the grand scheme of things in the Gems app. Where is the innovation? The innovation is in the airdrop algorithms and trust score management. Milestones should be weighted heavily around THESE portions of the projects, not trivial iPhone app releases that have zero functionality with the innovation at hand.
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