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May 09, 2013, 03:33:12 AM Last edit: May 09, 2013, 08:39:38 AM by mem |
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"Site Owner passionately defends the use of the N-Word as a derogatory slur." Mem, this is really disingenuous. Never did I "passionately defend the use of the N-Word." My thesis, if you care to understand it, was that Mircea's post was not racist. You're welcome to disagree with this thesis if you like, but the quote above is disingenuous. My thesis was NOT that it's okay to use the N-Word or that I supported Mircea doing that. I do not think he should be using that word. I also don't think the post is racist. Using a word does not make one racist. One is racist if one believes in inherent inferiority of an individual based on his race. Mircea doesn't believe that, and specifically stated such in the post. You ignore that fact. I do not understand why you fail to see this distinction, and it feels as if you're simply trying to stir up drama, make enemies, and crusade against people based on very dubious assertions. The quote above from your gambling list is deceptive. It is factually wrong, but I suppose you'll keep it anyway. That was also pretty classy of you to lock your thread after you got the last word in. Stated in bullet points for you: - I am not racist. I don't give a damn about peoples' skin color. - I do not believe Mircea is a racist, although he is certainly an elitist, is very brash, and very offensive to some people. - I do not believe Mircea's post is racist. Those who find it offensive are getting caught up in the use of one word and failing to understand the meaning of the commentary. - I do not defend the use of the N-word, ever. Do you need it any more clearly spelled out or will you perpetuate the witch hunt? Erik, it is clear you do not appreciate the damage and hurt Mircrea's language causes or you do and feign ignorance (I hope its just the regular kind of ignorance). Either way, SatoshiDice and all MPEx businesses listed here shall be accompanied by a note warning against supporting these types of individuals. There is a south park episode you should watch, perhaps it would educate you some on racial sensitivity which I feel you and many others here need. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_Apologies_to_Jesse_JacksonYou keep trying to label this as a witch hunt except thats just you attempting to defeat my position by using a strawman argument. I guess you are not used to how Boycotts work, here is some further reading material on this for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott- I do not believe Mircea's post is racist. Those who find it offensive are getting caught up in the use of one word and failing to understand the meaning of the commentary. - I do not defend the use of the N-word, ever. This is not what I read in your recent comment, you went to great lengths to defend his use of the N-word in his "article", insisting that he is not racist but only using the negative racial slur in a derogatory fashion for a group but not a racial group. My stance shall not change, Mircea is a racist piece of shit that this world is better off without - I shall not support or endorse any business associated with the individual for the very clear reasons above. I apologize for the original tone of my post, I was nearly vomiting with rage amd disgust after some concerned friends bought this to my attention and could not distance myself from MPEx and its associates quickly enough. Frankly Erik we are of two incompatible mindsets, I do not tolerate racial slurs or those that make them. Watch the south park episode if you have not already then if you wish, discuss with me further on google chat, my email is mem.namefix at gmail dot com
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mem (OP)
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May 09, 2013, 04:11:18 AM |
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chain games listing added. Sites due to be added: eurovisionbet and playtin dont get much of a lunch break so thats my work for today. As always, pm me on gmail chat if you need my attention.
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mem (OP)
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May 09, 2013, 04:45:18 AM |
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Im fairly certain that while they used similar methods of payouts etc they are completely different individuals. The admin used to be quite active on here and it was one of the best examples of fair gambling on bitcoin until satoshidice came along. Im saddened to see them exit this way.
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evoorhees
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May 09, 2013, 03:55:11 PM |
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I shall not support or endorse any business associated with the individual for the very clear reasons above.
Mem, you are welcome not to support people or businesses you disagree with. That is fine. But you are not welcome to lie. Your list states that I "passionately defend the use of the N-Word as a derogatory slur." I do not defend the use of the word whatsoever. A racist is someone who believes in the inferiority of an individual because of his/her race. Mircea explicitly stated in that post that he does not believe this. Yet, you have not let these facts disrupt your narrative. You are not engaging in this debate from a foundation of honesty, but of flimsy, superficial assertion. If you don't want to support SD or me that's fine. Boycott whomever you wish. As gentlemen we can disagree on our opinion of Mircea, but please hold yourself at least to a standard of honesty. Even though you've defamed and insulted me, I will not be going around posting lies about you. If your opinion is legitimate, you needn't post lies about me to convey it.
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Yurkov
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May 10, 2013, 12:49:08 PM |
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lol you messed up the list commands here as you can see
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addi
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May 10, 2013, 04:47:54 PM |
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Any chance you could review our casino SatoshiBet.com ? Thanks in advance!
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May 10, 2013, 08:24:29 PM |
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Thank you
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KGambler
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May 11, 2013, 03:47:33 PM |
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I shall not support or endorse any business associated with the individual for the very clear reasons above.
Mem, you are welcome not to support people or businesses you disagree with. That is fine. But you are not welcome to lie. Your list states that I "passionately defend the use of the N-Word as a derogatory slur." I do not defend the use of the word whatsoever. A racist is someone who believes in the inferiority of an individual because of his/her race. Mircea explicitly stated in that post that he does not believe this. Yet, you have not let these facts disrupt your narrative. You are not engaging in this debate from a foundation of honesty, but of flimsy, superficial assertion. If you don't want to support SD or me that's fine. Boycott whomever you wish. As gentlemen we can disagree on our opinion of Mircea, but please hold yourself at least to a standard of honesty. Even though you've defamed and insulted me, I will not be going around posting lies about you. If your opinion is legitimate, you needn't post lies about me to convey it. It's clear that mem has little integrity, and not much in the way of intelligence either. He's a liar and a shill. He's not competent enough, nor intectually honest enough, to serve as some kind of "watchdog".
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BitcoinFlush
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May 11, 2013, 04:03:58 PM |
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It's clear that mem has little integrity, and not much in the way of intelligence either. He's a liar and a shill. He's not competent enough, nor intectually honest enough, to serve as some kind of "watchdog".
I would say that goes a little too far, but yes, i am annoyed about mem consequently rejecting satoshi poker on the gambling list. I feel some sort of conflict of interest in his list, hence the reason why he refuses honest businesses and uses non-business related reasons to flame businesses on his list. At this moment we are content not to be listed on it, as an unstable individual as him/her can do only more damage than good.
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MPOE-PR
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May 12, 2013, 02:06:37 PM |
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I would say that goes a little too far, but yes, i am annoyed about mem consequently rejecting satoshi poker on the gambling list. I feel some sort of conflict of interest in his list, hence the reason why he refuses honest businesses and uses non-business related reasons to flame businesses on his list.
At this moment we are content not to be listed on it, as an unstable individual as him/her can do only more damage than good.
Maybe its time for somebody a little older than twelve to start a list a little more respectable than this thing. What can possibly go wrong?
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BitcoinFlush
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May 12, 2013, 02:51:33 PM |
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Maybe its time for somebody a little older than twelve to start a list a little more respectable than this thing. What can possibly go wrong?
Hehe, you can read my mind. Please don't visit our poker tables
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Mabsark
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May 12, 2013, 07:04:37 PM |
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I shall not support or endorse any business associated with the individual for the very clear reasons above.
Mem, you are welcome not to support people or businesses you disagree with. That is fine. But you are not welcome to lie. Your list states that I "passionately defend the use of the N-Word as a derogatory slur." I do not defend the use of the word whatsoever. A racist is someone who believes in the inferiority of an individual because of his/her race. Mircea explicitly stated in that post that he does not believe this. Yet, you have not let these facts disrupt your narrative. You are not engaging in this debate from a foundation of honesty, but of flimsy, superficial assertion. If you don't want to support SD or me that's fine. Boycott whomever you wish. As gentlemen we can disagree on our opinion of Mircea, but please hold yourself at least to a standard of honesty. Even though you've defamed and insulted me, I will not be going around posting lies about you. If your opinion is legitimate, you needn't post lies about me to convey it. MPOE representatives are a bunch of lying, scummy, scam artists who simply refuse to provide a simple answer to a simple question with regards to a bad bet on BitBet. I have no idea why you would want to associate yourself with them, but because of that association, I will not be using your service and will be encouraging others to follow suit.
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Matthew N. Wright
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May 12, 2013, 07:07:00 PM |
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MPOE representatives are a bunch of lying, scummy, scam artists who simply refuse to provide a simple answer to a simple question with regards to a bad bet on BitBet. I have no idea why you would want to associate yourself with them, but because of that association, I will not be using your service and will be encouraging others to follow suit.
Could you link or reference in some way what you're referring to? I honestly have no idea what you're talking about but would like to know more. Also, off-topic to this thread but boycotts don't work.
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Mabsark
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May 12, 2013, 07:15:50 PM |
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MPOE representatives are a bunch of lying, scummy, scam artists who simply refuse to provide a simple answer to a simple question with regards to a bad bet on BitBet. I have no idea why you would want to associate yourself with them, but because of that association, I will not be using your service and will be encouraging others to follow suit.
Could you link or reference in some way what you're referring to? I honestly have no idea what you're talking about but would like to know more. Also, off-topic to this thread but boycotts don't work. Sure, here you go. Also, here's the bet in question. As you can see, MPOE employees are clearly lying scumbags trying to rip people off.
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Matthew N. Wright
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May 12, 2013, 07:21:29 PM |
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MPOE representatives are a bunch of lying, scummy, scam artists who simply refuse to provide a simple answer to a simple question with regards to a bad bet on BitBet. I have no idea why you would want to associate yourself with them, but because of that association, I will not be using your service and will be encouraging others to follow suit.
Could you link or reference in some way what you're referring to? I honestly have no idea what you're talking about but would like to know more. Also, off-topic to this thread but boycotts don't work. Sure, here you go. Also, here's the bet in question. As you can see, MPOE employees are clearly lying scumbags trying to rip people off. Wait a second..I'm starting to see a pattern here in looking at your posts in that thread, but I will not jump the gun and ask questions first: 1) what made you think that bitbet had anything to do with MPOE, and MPOE-PR wasn't just a concerned bystander sharing their opinion (this would not make them a scammer)? 2) what made you think that BFL actually delivered?
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May 12, 2013, 09:09:27 PM |
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Wait a second..I'm starting to see a pattern here in looking at your posts in that thread, but I will not jump the gun and ask questions first:
1) what made you think that bitbet had anything to do with MPOE, and MPOE-PR wasn't just a concerned bystander sharing their opinion (this would not make them a scammer)? 2) what made you think that BFL actually delivered?
1) I sent BitBet an email, and MPOE-PR posted it on their blog. They then posted a comment boasting about their unprofessional behaviour as can be seen here. 2) They delivered a few tens of devices in April to various people. This was well documented and that part of the bet is not under dispute. The dispute arises from the phrase "advertised performance". BitBet take that to include power consumption of the initial devices as specified in a blog post from 2012, as opposed to the actual specification listed on the product page at the time the bet was created. Now, that would be fine if they actually provided that essential information with the actual bet so people knew what they actually betting on. I asked MPOE-PR to specify exactly which information was meant by "advertised performance" and to include that info in the actual bet. MPOE-PR claims that information is already present, which is simply pure bullshit.
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mem (OP)
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May 13, 2013, 03:24:34 AM |
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I shall not support or endorse any business associated with the individual for the very clear reasons above.
Mem, you are welcome not to support people or businesses you disagree with. That is fine. But you are not welcome to lie. Your list states that I "passionately defend the use of the N-Word as a derogatory slur." I do not defend the use of the word whatsoever.Sorry Erik that is not what I have taken away from your posts, no where did I read that you do not approve of the word. All I saw was you going to extensive lengths defending the use of the word in the context that it was not racist. At the very least it is racially insensitive and imho that is being quite generous. This is a hard position for myself, I liked your site and apart from your silly e-tantrums you keep throwing at the wikipedia foundation I enjoyed reading your posts. Now we are in a position where I see you defending what I perceive to be a foul mouthed racist and using his business platform for SDICE. The asterix shall be reworded, to something more direct to my point. I fear for your businesses future Erik, SDICE will never be the beacon for bitcoin gambling in the public eye, this ugly ugly association you have will be the end of every favourable public interview you could have. Id love to see you attempt to dismiss the miceras use of the word as non racial in front of a live audience that doesnt end with torches and pitchforks being directed at yourself.
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mem (OP)
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May 13, 2013, 03:26:26 AM |
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