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September 01, 2014, 04:17:35 PM
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IPO = immediate zero credibility.
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September 01, 2014, 04:19:57 PM
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IPO = immediate zero credibility.

so quit this thread.

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September 01, 2014, 04:48:03 PM
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IPO = immediate zero credibility.

Mining is nothing but a private IPO.
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September 01, 2014, 05:07:50 PM
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IPO = immediate zero credibility.


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September 01, 2014, 05:18:15 PM
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IPO = immediate zero credibility.

not realizing that this is not a coin = zero reading capabilities
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September 01, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
Last edit: September 01, 2014, 08:13:32 PM by jl777
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IPO = immediate zero credibility.

not realizing that this is not a coin = zero reading capabilities
reading comprehension test we have Smiley

some people dont seem to understand that this is as risk free of a crypto investment that is possible, with arguably the best crypto asset ever, just thrown in as a bonus.

uncapped but antidilutive, a unique combination

101% of book value is the price, as I am going to be getting 1% of the funds for incidental costs.

I guess, this is financially similar to sharkfund0 but with dividend paying monetizaton created from the user base that the funds allow to bind together.

So unlike any other uncapped offering it is not diluting what each BTC gets, and it is most definitely not a coin, it is hard crypto assets plus soft future dividends. But still it will trade on exchange like a coin. I know, so confusing.

Anyway, some IPO details.
The BTCD raised will be used to stake and proceeds donated to the BTCD community.
The NXT raised will be used to forge and proceeds donated to the NXT community.

things are progressing smoothly and I would be shocked if the ICO did not start by Friday. Of course we need to wait for confirmation from busoni

James

P.S. Due to the expected size of the fund, I dont want to be using it to be moving markets with giant orders. But I do think it would make sense to have some portion of it to do some opportunistic trading, like the sharkfund0 did, any such trades would be done at Poloniex or NXT AE, unless some other mechanism is worked out. Just a way to get some extra profits for SuperNET owners.

http://www.digitalcatallaxy.com/report2015.html
100+ page annual report for SuperNET
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September 01, 2014, 08:00:04 PM
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Interesting.

Will be following this.
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September 01, 2014, 08:40:08 PM
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IPO = immediate zero credibility.

Mining is nothing but a private IPO.



Nailed it.


The more people realize this, the more they'll see mining power is far more centralized and horded than wealth of FIAT.
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September 01, 2014, 09:07:46 PM
Last edit: September 01, 2014, 09:18:08 PM by AdamWhite
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IPO = immediate zero credibility.

not realizing that this is not a coin = zero reading capabilities
reading comprehension test we have Smiley

some people dont seem to understand that this is as risk free of a crypto investment that is possible, with arguably the best crypto asset ever, just thrown in as a bonus.

uncapped but antidilutive, a unique combination

101% of book value is the price, as I am going to be getting 1% of the funds for incidental costs.

I guess, this is financially similar to sharkfund0 but with dividend paying monetizaton created from the user base that the funds allow to bind together.

So unlike any other uncapped offering it is not diluting what each BTC gets, and it is most definitely not a coin, it is hard crypto assets plus soft future dividends. But still it will trade on exchange like a coin. I know, so confusing.

Anyway, some IPO details.
The BTCD raised will be used to stake and proceeds donated to the BTCD community.
The NXT raised will be used to forge and proceeds donated to the NXT community.

things are progressing smoothly and I would be shocked if the ICO did not start by Friday. Of course we need to wait for confirmation from busoni

James

P.S. Due to the expected size of the fund, I dont want to be using it to be moving markets with giant orders. But I do think it would make sense to have some portion of it to do some opportunistic trading, like the sharkfund0 did, any such trades would be done at Poloniex or NXT AE, unless some other mechanism is worked out. Just a way to get some extra profits for SuperNET owners.

So you're getting 10% of operational costs + 1% of total assets under management??

It's incredible you're able to say that with a straight face. You're embarrassing yourself
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September 01, 2014, 09:56:55 PM
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IPO = immediate zero credibility.

not realizing that this is not a coin = zero reading capabilities
reading comprehension test we have Smiley

some people dont seem to understand that this is as risk free of a crypto investment that is possible, with arguably the best crypto asset ever, just thrown in as a bonus.

uncapped but antidilutive, a unique combination

101% of book value is the price, as I am going to be getting 1% of the funds for incidental costs.

I guess, this is financially similar to sharkfund0 but with dividend paying monetizaton created from the user base that the funds allow to bind together.

So unlike any other uncapped offering it is not diluting what each BTC gets, and it is most definitely not a coin, it is hard crypto assets plus soft future dividends. But still it will trade on exchange like a coin. I know, so confusing.

Anyway, some IPO details.
The BTCD raised will be used to stake and proceeds donated to the BTCD community.
The NXT raised will be used to forge and proceeds donated to the NXT community.

things are progressing smoothly and I would be shocked if the ICO did not start by Friday. Of course we need to wait for confirmation from busoni

James

P.S. Due to the expected size of the fund, I dont want to be using it to be moving markets with giant orders. But I do think it would make sense to have some portion of it to do some opportunistic trading, like the sharkfund0 did, any such trades would be done at Poloniex or NXT AE, unless some other mechanism is worked out. Just a way to get some extra profits for SuperNET owners.

So you're getting 10% of operational costs + 1% of total assets under management??

It's incredible you're able to say that with a straight face. You're embarrassing yourself
I have found that highly qualified busy people do not usually work for free. I will not be using any of these funds for myself. I am working for no salary.

There will be a public ledger of all usage of the 1%

The 10% is from the future revenues and maybe you are able to manage such a thing at higher than 90% profit margin? If so, will you volunteer to do this?

It is easy for you to say 90% profit margin is not high enough, but there needs to be some expenses for advertising in fiat world. This is not cheap. So, please tell me how efficiently you can manage all the SuperNET revenue producing entities, market it to the fiat world, websites, tech supports, community supports, etc.

Can you do it for 9%? 8%?

James

http://www.digitalcatallaxy.com/report2015.html
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September 02, 2014, 12:25:35 AM
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mark, I wanna join. Shocked jl777 is a very famous DEV, easy profits Shocked
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September 02, 2014, 12:58:57 AM
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Dev is so important now in crypto coin world.
Need me do something for Chinese?

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对数字货币深度思考:http://8btc.com/thread-109365-1-1.html
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September 02, 2014, 03:32:04 AM
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@James: sorry I know that you are busy but thought I could catch you here.

A few of us are not receiving mgwBTC deposits. Please check if servers have caught up.

https://nxtforum.org/nxtservices-releases/multigateway-user-support-thread/msg94977/#msg94977

Thanks!
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September 02, 2014, 03:59:41 AM
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@James: sorry I know that you are busy but thought I could catch you here.

A few of us are not receiving mgwBTC deposits. Please check if servers have caught up.

https://nxtforum.org/nxtservices-releases/multigateway-user-support-thread/msg94977/#msg94977

Thanks!
I decided to disable LTC support, it just used up RAM and made the servers start thrashing
restarting servers

http://www.digitalcatallaxy.com/report2015.html
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Reserved
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I decided to disable LTC support, it just used up RAM and made the servers start thrashing
restarting servers

mgwBTC received! Thanks again!
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Last edit: September 10, 2014, 06:59:58 AM by allwelder
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为了更好地让中国社区理解,翻译如下:

原帖:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766158.new#new

媒体报道:
http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/beyond-bitcoin-13-one-to-rule-them-all Starts at 39:40  
http://www.coinssource.com/supernets-coin-offering-raises-over-2000-bitcoins-hours/
https://altcoinherald.com/supernet-seeks-unify-warring-altcoin-states/
https://bitscan.com/articles/welcome-to-the-supernet
https://twitter.com/Cryptopumping/status/508286537688420352

市场支撑:NAV购买
当交易开始后,1%的募集资金将用户NAV竞价。例如,如果筹集10000BTC,将会有100BTC用于保底购买。
详情见https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.msg8735738#msg8735738  。

担保细节:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.msg8748412#msg8748412
请求者 - jl777
7人授权委员会: <selection process pending>
审核人 - cobaltskky

保管人:
CNY - Bter
BTCD - Azeh
BTC - effectsToCause (VRC), coinsolidation (BTM) ...

超级交易员
10%的募集资金将提供给超级交易员。将会给她们支付11%的利润,其余将会融合到超级交易员的资金中。详情:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.msg8751621#msg8751621

NXTventure
NXTventure 是一个企业孵化器,该资产会把所有的新收益都融合进去。募集的NXT将会作为“风险投资资金”--z在NXT AE上发型了资产。目前已经有3千万NXT可用于投资。Privatebet正在寻求赌博游戏合资企业,任何有利润预期的服务提供者都会是候选人。详情:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.msg8695499;topicseen#msg8695499


SuperNET 募资过程

SuperNET 目前在BTER和NXT 资产均可购买。
BTER上出售的SuperNET token(代码:TOKEN)在募资结束后兑换UNITY资产。(TOKEN不能提现。可以交易。)
https://bter.com/trade/token_btc
https://bter.com/trade/token_cny
https://bter.com/trade/token_btcd
https://bter.com/trade/token_nxt

类似的Token可以在AE上获得,同样也只能在募资结束后兑换UNITY:
官方 SuperNET NXT 地址: NXT-MRBN-8DFH-PFMK-A4DBM
官方 SuperNET TOKEN asset ID: 15641806960898178066
小心其它账号发布的SuperNET相关的资产。

可以使用BTC,NXT和BTCD。用NXT和BTCD购买可以获得5%的折扣。

此外,对于早期投资者有15%的折扣。在接下来的2周内,折扣会逐渐降低到0。BTER上的价格是自动调整的,AE上的价格是手动的,因为可能不会很平缓。

TOKEN的购买数量没有限制,尽管如果交易量很大的话,可能短期内会有TOKEN的限制。如果销售的数量很大的话,这并不讳稀释购买者的持有价值,因为SuperNET是由支付的密码学货币背书的:SuperNET不是密码学货币,与一般的币不一样。(SuperNET是很多币种和能产生利润资产的结合体,更像是封闭式共同基金。)

募资的开始时间是14:00 GMT 9月6号 星期六。 将持续2-4周。最后,所有的TOKEN会转换为UNITY,它们可以提现到NXT钱包或者在AE或BTER以及其它交易平台进行交易。

更多关于SuperNET的信息,请参见:http://thesupernet.org/superNET.pdf

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官方 SuperNET NXT 地址: NXT-MRBN-8DFH-PFMK-A4DBM
官方 SuperNET TOKEN asset ID: 15641806960898178066
小心其它账号发布的SuperNET相关的资产。

SuperNET的总结:http://209.126.70.170/SuperNET.pdf  

各币种的代表们请注意:
      请将你们要加入SuperNET CORE的申请发送至coins@thesupernet.org
      常见的问题可以访问:http://supernet.answerbase.com/

      Supernetwork将会把所有加入的币种都放进一个统一的网络中。当然,每一个币还是正常操作运行,但是可以选择使用Supernetwork中的服务。每个加入网络中的币种都会使其变得更加强大,而且也会把它的唯一的技术特征分享给其它节点。
      我预计将会有超过1000000个节点,而且最好的是这明显不是一个零和经济。加入的币种越多,交易越多,收益也越多。仅从InstantDEX的预期收益就与一个中心化交易所0.1%的收益相当,1000000+能够直接实时交易他们的密码学货币保证了稳定的收益。当MGW可用时,它立即成为NXT交易量很大的平台,尽管它现在还在beta阶段,运行在我的开发服务器上。
      我将与Supernetwork中的所有节点分享收益,这与它们产生的费用成正比。InstantDEX提供了基本的收益,其它来自Tradebots和Privatebet的收益,以及明年Teleport的少量收费都会增加收益来源。
每一个收益都有相应的NXT资产,以及我所采用的币,BTCD,也会从Supernetwork中获得相应的收益。有点类似螺旋中间的logo。但只有BTCD在Supernetwork中心。每一个添加的币种要给Supernetwork添加一定限值的价值,而且社区需要积极配合。零和竞争只适合于成熟的法币世界,在密码学货币中是无法立足的。我们需要联合起来创建巨大的Supernetwork,来推动更多的法币进行密码学货币领域。
一些人可能会问,这对Bitcoin本身有威胁吗?当然没有!任何想要取代BTC的币种(甚至是Supernetwork)都低估了其网络效应。举个例子, 2014年的DOS+Windows的市场份额。
      因此,不用担心比特币的未来。新技术都会使得2008年的科技看起来像上个世纪的一样。因此,这根本不奇怪。最好的科技会在没有安装基础量的情况下发挥作用,因此比特币将会生存并是整个密码学货币的晴雨表。这并不意味着最好的投资回报,事实上市值很小的币种的ROI都会比BTC的要高。这是显而易见的。可以计算的。当我加入的时候,BTCD的市值为1000000$。现在已经超过60倍了。6周,60倍。但也“只”有6百万美金,而BTC要获得这个数量将会是0.001。因此相同的市值下对于BTCD来讲是6000%,而对BTC则是0.1%。BTCD的下一个60倍需要的时间肯定会比6周要长。
      在何种情况下,如果BTC本身的价值翻倍了,这会使所有密码学货币的价值翻倍,因此推翻BTC是没有意义的,就好比岛屿居民互相战斗说他们将会比整个陆地要大。让我们一起互相帮助,特别是BTC,每个人都会双赢。法币除外。
(此处略去对BBR的一些描述。)
      目前NXT和BTCD社区的成员基本都知道了Supernetwork的潜力。Zoidberg将会和我一起来改善BBR和Teleport。只有时间才能告知它准确的特性和影响,但是基本的Teleport可以为任何币种提供2FA服务,我已经知道如何进行了。
      可以理解,很多币种的开发者已经在联系我将它们的币添加到Supernetwork中,我也正在评估他们来发现它们的优势从而为Supernetwork增加价值。当Supernetwork准备就绪后,你就可以交易BTC和其它货币了,只有选中的一些币种会组成Supernetwork的核心。意思就是被接受的币种价值可能会在短期内暴涨。就跟BBR的情况相似,但通常是能够进入Supernetwork的币种其价值会更大,而且会获得收益分享,真正的增加了币的价值。这对于币的前景来讲,是一个永久和重大的变化。
      为了将Supernetwork中的核心币种联合起来,我想要购买持有一定比例的币种。即使价格上涨也如此,会长期买入和持有并获得和收益。现在我已经有足够的金钱来为我的余生每天购买一杯星巴克拿铁,因此我的经济需要已经满足了。然而,我想要建立一套金融组织来准确的反映创建的价值。这可能是一个强迫性的事情,但是币的价值翻了四倍却没有记录此事看起来也是错误的。我并不介意让其他人赚很多钱,事实上当我有金融家的头衔后这是我的最初目标,因此这些新币种的比例意味着我需要一些流动的BTC资金。
因此就会有Supernetwork IPO。它将会使用募集的资金在币种进入Supernetwork之前私下购买这些币种,也会用于后期市场支持以及市场流动性。我将会用我个人持有的资产作为资本,这些资产会从Supernetwork、sharkfund0、InstantDEX、NXTprivacy、Privatebet、Tradebots (也称作 NXTcoinsco)获得收益。这会使得Supernetwork资产短期受益于私下购买,长期受益于Supernetwork产生的收益。
      很多人很难理解如何让每个人都赚钱。为了能够为Supernetwork产生收益,一部分人肯定会损失金钱。法比世界零和经济的本质根深蒂固地影响了我们。需要增长的经济能够使得每个人都收益。当然目前非Supernetwork的成员需要互相竞争,我不能确定会发生什么,但长期的效果是会持续增加BTC的价值,我认为非Supernetwork的币种也会生存下来并繁荣发展。

James

 
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September 02, 2014, 08:32:32 AM
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I decided to disable LTC support, it just used up RAM and made the servers start thrashing
restarting servers

mgwBTC received! Thanks again!
sorry for the delay
planned to take the weekend off but something else came up Smiley
also had to move location today
but all seems to be working fine now

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September 02, 2014, 09:02:07 AM
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When will IPO start? I have to stock up my polo account  Wink

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September 02, 2014, 09:23:29 AM
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IPO = immediate zero credibility.

Mining is nothing but a private IPO.


yes

you need money for equipment, bills...

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