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January 31, 2016, 06:41:01 AM
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Seems like Nickles987 is running into same attitude problem with FortuneJack posting incomplete, misleading or inaccurate information.




I signed up earlier for fortunejack, and made first deposit but didn't get instant 100% bonus after I deposited .5 BTC

I asked in chat, admin told me to read terms, which i did.



I came back and they told me "keep reading"

Then some guy named TAKO comes in chat acting like hes admin and accusing me of being sneaky?  This guy is impersonator I assume.  But whats up with the bonus?


^^^^^

And Others did before me:

Okay, I will ignore the stats from bitcoinstrip. Still I have 3 data points, that I personally got straight from your website. These numbers are correctly taken from your site.

I know all stats started with 0 on 2014-09-09. I know the stats of 2015-01-10 so I can calculate the daily average between those 2 dates (first 123 days). And I know the stats of today, so I can calculate the average daily between 2015-01-10 and now (257 days.)

This results in:

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	       2015-01-10       in BTC	daily in BTC		2015-09-24            in BTC   daily in BTC

BTC        23,565 BTC   23,565 BTC      191 BTC     10,570,963 BTC    10,570,963 BTC 41,040 BTC
NVC     1,008,077 NVC    4,365 BTC       35 BTC      1,206,989 NVC    5,226 BTC       3 BTC
PPC     1,005,193 PPC    1,658 BTC       13 BTC       1,680,837 PPC    2,773 BTC       4 BTC
NMC     1,002,993 NMC    1,655 BTC        13 BTC      1,147,817 NMC    1,894 BTC       1 BTC
DASH       105,758 DASH   1,108 BTC         9 BTC       100,300,583 DASH    1,050,977 BTC   4,085 BTC
DOGE   685,105,819 DOGE     356 BTC         3 BTC    14,664,444,075 DOGE        7,625 BTC      28 BTC
RDD 8,572,105,491 RDD      343 BTC         3 BTC    39,762,845,194 RDD         1,590 BTC       5 BTC
LTC         8,343 LTC      104 BTC        1 BTC       200,305,652 LTC     2,489,799 BTC   9,688 BTC
CLAM         8,105 CLAM 48 BTC        0 BTC        150,369 CLAM          895 BTC       3 BTC

TOTAL     33,202 BTC       270 BTC       14,132,013 BTC     54,859 BTC



Do you see how these stats look wrong?



1) I found it odd that NVC, PPC, NMC are all just about a million on the first data point, but I am willing to ignore that as it could be coincidence.
2) For the first 123 days, you had a daily avg of 270 BTC in total. And the 257 days after that, a daily avg of 54,859 BTC. I'm sure your site got more popular, but seems extreme?
3) Note how almost all altcoins aren't popular except DASH and LTC with HUGE amounts. LTC is claimed to have more 5x more wagered than PrimeDice's BTC daily wagered. PD is the most popular dice site BY FAR and AFAIK the most popular BTC gambling site. Even DASH is 2x more than PD BTC. Anyone active in the cryptocurrency gambling community, knows that altcoins do not have that kind of gambling volume in BTC terms. Even JD doesn't have that with their CLAM wagered amounts. The fact that your other altcoins have barely wagered volume, shows this furthermore.
4) I find it odd that it seems like DASH got exactly 100M added (300k would be exactly correct based on daily of first 123 days) and it seems like 200M was added to LTC. But sure, this "could" be a coincidence.
5) Just the fact that you claim to have 54,859 BTC daily wagered should be enough.. That is 27x times more wagered than PD and still 4x more than JD with BTC times. Everyone who was active on JD know how crazy action there was, 100 BTC spam-bets were almost not a big deal.
6) Based on your wagered amounts, you should have an expected profit 141,320 till 565,280 BTC in ~8 months (based on 1% HE - 4% HE.) That is simply impossible.
7) You have a max bet of 1 BTC on your dice game. With these wagered amounts and expected profits, you should be able to afford HUGE max bets.
Cool Just because you have a lot of different games, altcoins and some bonus program, doesn't magically make your site more popular by these insane factors.



I find it odd that you try to defend this. I personally assumed you would say there was a silly mistake and it would be fixed. That you really claim that these numbers are correct, is sketchy to me.
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January 31, 2016, 06:46:23 AM
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As for your cases I believe that it is solved already. The promotions for the first deposit bonus is written there to ensure fair gaming you will need to wager it first so it has been stated and it is not misleaading. As for TAKO, I believe that he is part of the admin staff as well, so he knows more about the promotions and tried to explain to you
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January 31, 2016, 08:50:12 AM
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As for your cases I believe that it is solved already. The promotions for the first deposit bonus is written there to ensure fair gaming you will need to wager it first so it has been stated and it is not misleaading. As for TAKO, I believe that he is part of the admin staff as well, so he knows more about the promotions and tried to explain to you

I believe you haven't actually read or understand my post.

The screen shot was of the terms as they were in November.  I complained about it and OP, along with a few other posters were acted like assholes and that it was my fault for not reading the terms.

However if you decide to actually read what the terms said, you would realize they were promising players that they would match their deposit instantly, as soon as soon as they deposited so that they would have twice as much money than they deposited to play with, but they could only withdraw if they were able to wager it 30 time.  In reality, players who make their first deposit get nothing matched instantly. 

Here is the screen shot, you can see it's exactly as I just described, I underlined the important parts.
<---Deposit, get 100% bonus immediately (lies), wager requirement for withdraw


They have since fixed the terms, but never admitted that they weren't doing things as they said they would - (above)

The TAKO guy was an asshole about the whole thing, they never apologized or made any attempt to make things right with me, but for some reason they decided to rewrite their terms.  Interesting...huh?

Here's the NEW terms. 

<---Deposit, release bonus in small chunks as you wager
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January 31, 2016, 09:30:52 AM
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The 100% instant bonus is definitely stated wrong on their page.If they are instant then it should be added instantly and the player should be allowed to wager with it but the unlocking thing is quite confusing and is deceiving to some extent.

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January 31, 2016, 09:39:54 AM
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As for your cases I believe that it is solved already. The promotions for the first deposit bonus is written there to ensure fair gaming you will need to wager it first so it has been stated and it is not misleaading. As for TAKO, I believe that he is part of the admin staff as well, so he knows more about the promotions and tried to explain to you

Here is the screen shot, you can see it's exactly as I just described, I underlined the important parts.
<---Deposit, get 100% bonus immediately (lies), wager requirement for withdraw


In this case, their previous terms as shown on the screenshot clearly says that the deposit bonus is given instantly, but too bad if they did not admit that they were wrong. Maybe they did not know how to arrange the correct sentences to describe their bonus terms.

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Is there any news/updates regarding the problem on their the poker freeroll?

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January 31, 2016, 01:01:39 PM
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Here is FortuneJacks response on this forum.

First of all, my English might be far superior to yours. So please refrain from personal attacks.

Also, what is your problem? This is how it is in our casino and it has been like this for more than a year already. We did not take away your money nor we interfered with you while playing games here. On the contrary, we just rewarded you. But you are being picky over the words that we wrote on our promotions page for what reason? You are trying to get fame or just want to denounce us? As I said, the words that we have on our promotions page mean that you get the bonus instantly but you can't play with it before wagering enough.

It is your choice whether you leave our casino or not. We are following our rules as usual.

A week or so later, I received an email asking me to describe what was wrong.

Stupidly I explained the situation again, which was a total waste of time as I never heard back.  This was around thanksgiving time...really wasn't looking for much other than an apology, but instead they were total assholes.
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January 31, 2016, 01:22:29 PM
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Here is FortuneJacks response on this forum.

First of all, my English might be far superior to yours. So please refrain from personal attacks.

Also, what is your problem? This is how it is in our casino and it has been like this for more than a year already. We did not take away your money nor we interfered with you while playing games here. On the contrary, we just rewarded you. But you are being picky over the words that we wrote on our promotions page for what reason? You are trying to get fame or just want to denounce us? As I said, the words that we have on our promotions page mean that you get the bonus instantly but you can't play with it before wagering enough.

It is your choice whether you leave our casino or not. We are following our rules as usual.

A week or so later, I received an email asking me to describe what was wrong.

Stupidly I explained the situation again, which was a total waste of time as I never heard back.  This was around thanksgiving time...really wasn't looking for much other than an apology, but instead they were total assholes.

I think they just copied terms and conditions from another site, and do not have good English skills to alter the terms & conditions, AFAIK, Fj is a Russian casino, so English is not their mother tongue, that's why they stick with their misleading terms, and ain't willing to change the rules. Sad
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January 31, 2016, 01:55:09 PM
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Hello guys,

How fast they are paying? My withdrawal is pending since yesterday 18:00 server time  Undecided Other withdrawals since morning... They are saying that payments are automatic?
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January 31, 2016, 02:40:51 PM
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Hello guys,

How fast they are paying? My withdrawal is pending since yesterday 18:00 server time  Undecided Other withdrawals since morning... They are saying that payments are automatic?

The withdrawal is indeed automatic. I have made alot of withdrawal since I join their casino and all withdrawals was processed less than a minute, the site never dissapoint me in withdrawing any amount so far. If you are not receiving your withdrawal and it is written pending in your transaction list then contact support.
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January 31, 2016, 02:47:09 PM
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Hello guys,

How fast they are paying? My withdrawal is pending since yesterday 18:00 server time  Undecided Other withdrawals since morning... They are saying that payments are automatic?

The withdrawal is indeed automatic. I have made alot of withdrawal since I join their casino and all withdrawals was processed less than a minute, the site never dissapoint me in withdrawing any amount so far. If you are not receiving your withdrawal and it is written pending in your transaction list then contact support.

Hello,

I thought that it is automatic. I have contacted to support yesterday. Still no reply. Maybe admin will reply tomorrow.
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January 31, 2016, 02:52:34 PM
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Hello guys,

How fast they are paying? My withdrawal is pending since yesterday 18:00 server time  Undecided Other withdrawals since morning... They are saying that payments are automatic?

The withdrawal is indeed automatic. I have made alot of withdrawal since I join their casino and all withdrawals was processed less than a minute, the site never dissapoint me in withdrawing any amount so far. If you are not receiving your withdrawal and it is written pending in your transaction list then contact support.

Hello,

I thought that it is automatic. I have contacted to support yesterday. Still no reply. Maybe admin will reply tomorrow.

It is automatic yes but sometimes big win could take alot more times, perhaps the wallet is empty right now or there is some issue with your withdrawal. This is sunday so perhaps all the staff is taking some weekend holiday, they will surely answer your email soon since monday is coming.
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January 31, 2016, 05:27:17 PM
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so is the poker room working correctly yet? any feedback yet? how is the traffic? software?
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January 31, 2016, 05:46:11 PM
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so is the poker room working correctly yet? any feedback yet? how is the traffic? software?

It is working now, but not really sure the exact time when they come back after the issue yesterday because I just joined the latest hourly freeroll.

@OP : Regarding the freeroll, would you consider to remove the "sitting out" players? I've seen some players were just sitting out till they lost all their chips because of blinds and antes.

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so is the poker room working correctly yet? any feedback yet? how is the traffic? software?


I`m playing there couple already and I successfuly withdrawed more then 0.01 btc ( 1 first and 1 fourth place). Nice poker I like playing there. Fortunjack made great move with making this. See u there, my username is Zajeban.
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Nice new poker in your site.
Ive won 2nd place in your hourly freeroll.
Thanks. Think gonna play more in your poker rooms.
But yesterday Ive experience some error from it.
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Paid me more than 40BTC which I won. AMAZING CASINO!!!!  Cool

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In the meanwhile congrats for it.

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No problem sir, I was infact lurking fortunejack chat when this message just popped up few seconds ago "Big Win! Congratulations to verybigmoney on winning 1.2 BTC in BlackJack!"

Good job on doing this, keep it up.

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February 01, 2016, 08:18:25 AM
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Paid me more than 40BTC which I won. AMAZING CASINO!!!!  Cool

Will be happy to read a transaction ID beside the story on how you managed to gain a such big win.

In the meanwhile congrats for it.

I am sorry I will not search transactions. You can check BIGEST WINNERS table on website.
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