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May 15, 2016, 05:52:19 PM
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Received a odd warning that involved my bonus that I will never clear as I thought it included dice and it stated that I would lose my bonus if I played a hand of poker. Why would that limitation be in place,is it to get me to clear the bonus quickly or some other reason I am missing?

Would like a dice promotion as I mainly use this site for dice and eventually more poker as I build my roll,but I tend to donk it off in dice.

It is noted in T&C that only Live Games, Slots and Casino games are included in the promotion. Placing bet on Poker will result bonus to be void, in order to prevent Bonus abuse cases. This is a common practice in most of the casinos.

What concerns to Dice, we are implementing affiliates and some very attractive bonuses, so stay tuned Smiley

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May 15, 2016, 05:58:04 PM
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Playing in the $100 freeroll and the standings are still not adding up and I have no idea what the payouts are.
Did a quick total of all paying positions and it amounted to .01495 btc which is no where close to $100 and I have found the in the money cut off tends to be more players than actually listed. Would really help if you fixed this issue,will try to make a final table and post the difference in lobby and what I actually got. Will come back and edit.

25th is stating currently .16 mbtc in the prize info and .14mbtc in the standings and I have found the number I actually get is different. Will keep a eye on this as I go.

Edit:
Running time is off as well,states 15 minutes but it has been a hour and 9 minutes. Actually looks like the blinds and info is frozen at when I joined.

Final: 8th stated .48 and I received .4 so the payouts where balanced over late registration but the amount does not add up.
A prize pool of $100 should be .1 spread over the field and not .01495 btc over the whole field. Huh

Hi there! First of all, thank you for your feedback. We never said it was 100 US dollars, the Network we are enrolled in is called Red Latina Poker Network, so the amounts written in description field are distributed in ARS, however we asked the network provider to provide English translation for tourneys, as well as distribute funds in mBTC, will be implemented asap. We will monitor the tourney starting time and fix this asap if needed. Thanks!

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May 15, 2016, 06:01:49 PM
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I have to recommend this site cause i really love this site that is informative but i dont feel too complicated. I am someone who like things to be simple and yet this is the only site that i actually love it cause it is simple and yet it is informative. I also love that they accept many different digital currency.

Thank you for your feedback, it is important to us! We will offer improved gaming portfolio in the next few days, new game providers, new bonuses and more informative user dashboard.

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May 15, 2016, 06:07:46 PM
Last edit: May 15, 2016, 06:53:50 PM by FortuneJack
 #2844

Its odd because I sent half that around the same time and it showed up after 40 minutes. Seems like they take longer than most sites for some reason.

We experienced deposit delay issues in the past few weeks, but it is all fixed for now, we have conducted mandatory updates and improved coin server infrastructure. You will not experience delayed deposits anymore, in case of further questions or any kind of problems, our friendly support team is always ready to help 24/7, you can find the Live Chat icon in the bottom right corner of the website, or simply drop an email to support@fortunejack.com - Good Luck playing!

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May 15, 2016, 06:18:20 PM
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@TwitchySeal

seems like fortunejack rules has many misleading words , they didn't realize that it is need to be fixed until we notice it.
the deposit bonus now more confused than before , i have no idea to clear the bonus.
poker room seems nothing improved? fj forum account received negative trust? overall fj are in trouble now? well goodluck on unresolved problem fj!

Hi! Can you explain why do you find deposit bonus complicated? I will be glad to answer to all your concerns.
What concerns to poker room, we are working hard to implement new updates which will be launched tomorrow (Monday morning), hopefully all issues disturbing you will be resolved.

FJ Forum account received negative trust - we have submitted a reply to the accusation, and we believe there is no argument enough to keep the trust attached to our profile. We have always appreciated community's feedback on all issues, but we need this trust off asap.
Overall fj are in trouble now? - Nope, FJ is increasing and conquering new heights, you'll see the updates we will conduct in the next few days, it will blow your mind! (in the good sense of meaning of course:)

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May 15, 2016, 06:23:58 PM
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Getting a issue was trying to transfer on my cell but the copy and past was driving me nuts from my wallet so logged onto my desktop and getting this message:

An error occurred during a connection to fortunejack.com.

Peer reports it experienced an internal error.

(Error code: ssl_error_internal_error_alert)


Just a headsup,most likely already know of this issue.
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Works now..

Question about bonus (100% bonus)...I. deposited .005 btc and have wagered .621 btc since and the bonus just shows a question mark next to the account. Click on it and it says .005 btc bonus.
No idea how to access this or if it was cancelled after I busted. Do I automatically get it or do I need to click something. This needs to be easier to navigate or figure out. Thanks

Good question! Bonus is totally automated and will be added to your main account after the wagering requirement is completed. .005 deposit means you receive .005 bonus, wagering .621 means you have already completed the bonus. BUT, if the question mark still appears on the dashboard, it means you still need to wager coins, so here's the contra question, on which games did you wager coins? If you go through deposit bonus T&C, you'll find that bonus can be wagered only in Live Casino, Slots and Casino games (including Provably fair games). Hope this answers your question.

What concerns to error... We had been experiencing DDOS attacks in the past few days and had to update server configs, that is why the site was down for a short period of time.

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May 15, 2016, 06:38:09 PM
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Just saw you have negative trust rating which is quite surprising to me. Are the accusations true?

It wouldn't be as surprising if this thread wasn't self moderated.

They pay users to post nice things while they ignore/delete serious issues.  (17 of my posts have been deleted from this thread since April 11.
Thread is moderated because there were some hard trolling attempts in the past. And it is hard to fight vs all these trolls.
As for current negative trust of FJ, I don't think this issue is affecting players of the casino at all as it is not related.

Hi there, accusation has no argument to exist, we never deserved it and will demand to get it off.

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May 16, 2016, 10:24:45 PM
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Your video poker doesnt work for a couple of weeks now.
Could you fix that please ?

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@TwitchySeal

seems like fortunejack rules has many misleading words , they didn't realize that it is need to be fixed until we notice it.
the deposit bonus now more confused than before , i have no idea to clear the bonus.
poker room seems nothing improved? fj forum account received negative trust? overall fj are in trouble now? well goodluck on unresolved problem fj!

Hi! Can you explain why do you find deposit bonus complicated? I will be glad to answer to all your concerns.
What concerns to poker room, we are working hard to implement new updates which will be launched tomorrow (Monday morning), hopefully all issues disturbing you will be resolved.

FJ Forum account received negative trust - we have submitted a reply to the accusation, and we believe there is no argument enough to keep the trust attached to our profile. We have always appreciated community's feedback on all issues, but we need this trust off asap.
Overall fj are in trouble now? - Nope, FJ is increasing and conquering new heights, you'll see the updates we will conduct in the next few days, it will blow your mind! (in the good sense of meaning of course:)

i deposited 140 mbtc , and i think i have wagered almost 3x means over 380 mbtc wagered.
and when i see the bonus that i have cleared , i only receive a couple satoshi like 10k satoshi really?
does it means the rollover is 350 times instead 35 times?
in your poker room i need to open at least 4 windows everytime i joined the table , can you make it more simple?it's annoying to see that much windows opened automatically.
and the accusation against you in this forum really need to be solved, it's totally not good to trust on casino owner who have negative trust here?

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May 17, 2016, 04:01:22 AM
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does it means the rollover is 350 times instead 35 times?

I haven't played on FJ for many months, but IIRC there is a different contribution % towards the rollover for different games. Keno for example has a contribution of 100% (so the actual rollover is 35x) while slots has a contribution of 10% (so the actual rollover is 350x). I am not sure whether the contribution % has been changed in the previous few months though.

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May 17, 2016, 04:49:32 AM
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does it means the rollover is 350 times instead 35 times?

I haven't played on FJ for many months, but IIRC there is a different contribution % towards the rollover for different games. Keno for example has a contribution of 100% (so the actual rollover is 35x) while slots has a contribution of 10% (so the actual rollover is 350x). I am not sure whether the contribution % has been changed in the previous few months though.

Slots only contributes 10% toward wagering? Afaik in other casinos slots has the highest contribution (100%).
Anyway where to find this details on the site, just tried to find it but I could not find it on the promotions page. Can anyone give the link?
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May 17, 2016, 05:32:09 AM
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does it means the rollover is 350 times instead 35 times?

I haven't played on FJ for many months, but IIRC there is a different contribution % towards the rollover for different games. Keno for example has a contribution of 100% (so the actual rollover is 35x) while slots has a contribution of 10% (so the actual rollover is 350x). I am not sure whether the contribution % has been changed in the previous few months though.

Slots only contributes 10% toward wagering? Afaik in other casinos slots has the highest contribution (100%).
Anyway where to find this details on the site, just tried to find it but I could not find it on the promotions page. Can anyone give the link?

If I remember correctly, it was (may or may not be the case now). In the past, there was a table on https://fortunejack.com/promotions/ listing the contribution % of different games but I also cannot find it now on FJ, so we probably need to wait for an official answer by FJ.

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May 17, 2016, 05:52:41 AM
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They've made changes to the rules of the bonus since Saturday by deleting "Only bets made using bonus money will count towards the total wagering requirement," 

Did they remove it because now all bets will count toward wagering requirement, regardless of whether it's bonus money or your initial deposit?

Maybe.  Maybe not.

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"Before the first deposit bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino [...]  bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. 
Is bonus money "turned over" starting with your first bet?

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‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be."
What does 'playing for fun' mean? (does it mean you're not playing with real money? Or does it mean you're playing with your initial deposit?



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Deposit 777 play with 1777mBTC
Players will be entitled to a Welcome bonus up to 1 BTC with their first deposit.
1st deposit: 130% up to 1 BTC.
Minimum deposit of 0.777 BTC required for the bonus. The maximum bonus that can be claimed is 1 BTC.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions, bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the first deposit bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements)
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and live games. Only bets made using bonus money will count towards the total wagering requirement, bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
If Fortunejack suspects that player has committed bonus abuse, either on his own, or in association with partners, Fortunejack reserves the right to forfeit the bonus and void any winnings.

DEPOSIT BONUSES
Unless otherwise stated, the minimum qualifying deposit is 0.001 BTC.
The maximum bonus that can be claimed will be stated in each individual promotion.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions including bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements) before the player can request a withdrawal from their Fortunejack account; unless otherwise stated on the specific promotional details or rules.
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slot, live and casino games only. Only bets made using bonus money will count towards the total wagering requirement, bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
If a player requests a withdrawal before wagering requirements have been met, all bonus money and winnings accrued from bonus money will be forfeited.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
Bonuses offered by Fortunejack are intended for genuine recreational players only. Abuse of any bonus offer will not be tolerated. Fortunejack reserves the right to investigate, cancel, suspend or lock any account if bonus abuse is suspected. At our discretion, all bonuses and subsequent gaming activity may be revoked and voided, and deposits returned.
Fortunejack reserves the right to exclude players from any and all promotions if we have reason to believe they are abusing bonus offer.
If Fortunejack suspects that player has committed bonus abuse, either on his own, or in association with partners, Fortunejack reserves the right to forfeit the bonus and void any winnings.


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Deposit 777 play with 1777mBTC
Players will be entitled to a Welcome bonus up to 1 BTC with their first deposit.
1st deposit: 130% up to 1 BTC.
Minimum deposit of 0.777 BTC required for the bonus. The maximum bonus that can be claimed is 1 BTC.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions, bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the first deposit bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements)
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and live games. Bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
If Fortunejack suspects that player has committed bonus abuse, either on his own, or in association with partners, Fortunejack reserves the right to forfeit the bonus and void any winnings.

DEPOSIT BONUSES
Unless otherwise stated, the minimum qualifying deposit is 0.001 BTC.
The maximum bonus that can be claimed will be stated in each individual promotion.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions including bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements) before the player can request a withdrawal from their Fortunejack account; unless otherwise stated on the specific promotional details or rules.
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slot, live and casino games only. Bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
If a player requests a withdrawal before wagering requirements have been met, all bonus money and winnings accrued from bonus money will be forfeited.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
Bonuses offered by Fortunejack are intended for genuine recreational players only. Abuse of any bonus offer will not be tolerated. Fortunejack reserves the right to investigate, cancel, suspend or lock any account if bonus abuse is suspected. At our discretion, all bonuses and subsequent gaming activity may be revoked and voided, and deposits returned.
Fortunejack reserves the right to exclude players from any and all promotions if we have reason to believe they are abusing bonus offer.


Since they didn't notify players before changing the terms of the bonus, does that mean changes to the terms aren't 'material'?  Or does it mean they don't intend to follow their own terms?
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Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect.


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May 17, 2016, 04:06:26 PM
 #2854

@TwitchySeal

seems like fortunejack rules has many misleading words , they didn't realize that it is need to be fixed until we notice it.
the deposit bonus now more confused than before , i have no idea to clear the bonus.
poker room seems nothing improved? fj forum account received negative trust? overall fj are in trouble now? well goodluck on unresolved problem fj!

Hi! Can you explain why do you find deposit bonus complicated? I will be glad to answer to all your concerns.
What concerns to poker room, we are working hard to implement new updates which will be launched tomorrow (Monday morning), hopefully all issues disturbing you will be resolved.

FJ Forum account received negative trust - we have submitted a reply to the accusation, and we believe there is no argument enough to keep the trust attached to our profile. We have always appreciated community's feedback on all issues, but we need this trust off asap.
Overall fj are in trouble now? - Nope, FJ is increasing and conquering new heights, you'll see the updates we will conduct in the next few days, it will blow your mind! (in the good sense of meaning of course:)

i deposited 140 mbtc , and i think i have wagered almost 3x means over 380 mbtc wagered.
and when i see the bonus that i have cleared , i only receive a couple satoshi like 10k satoshi really?
does it means the rollover is 350 times instead 35 times?
in your poker room i need to open at least 4 windows everytime i joined the table , can you make it more simple?it's annoying to see that much windows opened automatically.
and the accusation against you in this forum really need to be solved, it's totally not good to trust on casino owner who have negative trust here?

When you make a deposit of 140 mBTC, you are getting 140 mBTC bonus (100% on top of your deposit), in order to claim the bonus in full and withdraw it, you have to wager it x35 times, that is the wagering requirement. You can wager your coins on Slots (100% contribution), Casino games (100% contribution, PF games 50% contribution towards the bonus, excluding dice) and Live games (100% contribution). In your case, you have to wager 4900 mBTC in order to claim the bonus in full.

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May 17, 2016, 04:08:12 PM
 #2855

The rake is advertised as 4% at cash tables, but they are taking 5%. This needs to be fixed immediately.

No response to this? Should be fixed. Uncapped 5% rake for a bitcoin poker site is just stupid.

The extra 1% is distributed among the top rake makers of the network, this is a mandatory requirement of the network we are enrolled in.

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May 17, 2016, 04:11:04 PM
 #2856

does it means the rollover is 350 times instead 35 times?

I haven't played on FJ for many months, but IIRC there is a different contribution % towards the rollover for different games. Keno for example has a contribution of 100% (so the actual rollover is 35x) while slots has a contribution of 10% (so the actual rollover is 350x). I am not sure whether the contribution % has been changed in the previous few months though.

Slots only contributes 10% toward wagering? Afaik in other casinos slots has the highest contribution (100%).
Anyway where to find this details on the site, just tried to find it but I could not find it on the promotions page. Can anyone give the link?

Slot Games - 100% contribution
Live Games - 100% contribution
Casino Games - 100% contribution
Provably Fair Casino Games - 50% contribution

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Last edit: May 17, 2016, 04:44:26 PM by FortuneJack
 #2857

They've made changes to the rules of the bonus since Saturday by deleting "Only bets made using bonus money will count towards the total wagering requirement,"  

Did they remove it because now all bets will count toward wagering requirement, regardless of whether it's bonus money or your initial deposit?

Maybe.  Maybe not.

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"Before the first deposit bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino [...]  bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted.  
Is bonus money "turned over" starting with your first bet?

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‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be."
What does 'playing for fun' mean? (does it mean you're not playing with real money? Or does it mean you're playing with your initial deposit?



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Deposit 777 play with 1777mBTC
Players will be entitled to a Welcome bonus up to 1 BTC with their first deposit.
1st deposit: 130% up to 1 BTC.
Minimum deposit of 0.777 BTC required for the bonus. The maximum bonus that can be claimed is 1 BTC.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions, bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the first deposit bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements)
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and live games. Only bets made using bonus money will count towards the total wagering requirement, bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
If Fortunejack suspects that player has committed bonus abuse, either on his own, or in association with partners, Fortunejack reserves the right to forfeit the bonus and void any winnings.

DEPOSIT BONUSES
Unless otherwise stated, the minimum qualifying deposit is 0.001 BTC.
The maximum bonus that can be claimed will be stated in each individual promotion.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions including bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements) before the player can request a withdrawal from their Fortunejack account; unless otherwise stated on the specific promotional details or rules.
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slot, live and casino games only. Only bets made using bonus money will count towards the total wagering requirement, bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
If a player requests a withdrawal before wagering requirements have been met, all bonus money and winnings accrued from bonus money will be forfeited.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
Bonuses offered by Fortunejack are intended for genuine recreational players only. Abuse of any bonus offer will not be tolerated. Fortunejack reserves the right to investigate, cancel, suspend or lock any account if bonus abuse is suspected. At our discretion, all bonuses and subsequent gaming activity may be revoked and voided, and deposits returned.
Fortunejack reserves the right to exclude players from any and all promotions if we have reason to believe they are abusing bonus offer.
If Fortunejack suspects that player has committed bonus abuse, either on his own, or in association with partners, Fortunejack reserves the right to forfeit the bonus and void any winnings.


Current Version:


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Deposit 777 play with 1777mBTC
Players will be entitled to a Welcome bonus up to 1 BTC with their first deposit.
1st deposit: 130% up to 1 BTC.
Minimum deposit of 0.777 BTC required for the bonus. The maximum bonus that can be claimed is 1 BTC.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions, bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the first deposit bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements)
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and live games. Bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
If Fortunejack suspects that player has committed bonus abuse, either on his own, or in association with partners, Fortunejack reserves the right to forfeit the bonus and void any winnings.

DEPOSIT BONUSES
Unless otherwise stated, the minimum qualifying deposit is 0.001 BTC.
The maximum bonus that can be claimed will be stated in each individual promotion.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions including bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements) before the player can request a withdrawal from their Fortunejack account; unless otherwise stated on the specific promotional details or rules.
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slot, live and casino games only. Bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
If a player requests a withdrawal before wagering requirements have been met, all bonus money and winnings accrued from bonus money will be forfeited.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
Bonuses offered by Fortunejack are intended for genuine recreational players only. Abuse of any bonus offer will not be tolerated. Fortunejack reserves the right to investigate, cancel, suspend or lock any account if bonus abuse is suspected. At our discretion, all bonuses and subsequent gaming activity may be revoked and voided, and deposits returned.
Fortunejack reserves the right to exclude players from any and all promotions if we have reason to believe they are abusing bonus offer.


Since they didn't notify players before changing the terms of the bonus, does that mean changes to the terms aren't 'material'?  Or does it mean they don't intend to follow their own terms?
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Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect.



Correct, we got a feedback from players to make bonus more loyal and count bets made from both balances towards the wagering requirement, therefore we updated bonus terms.
1. All bets placed, whether its made from bonus or main balance count towards the wagering requirement.
2. If you deposit 0.1 BTC and get 0.1BTC as a bonus, to claim it in full, you must wager your bonus x35 times, so, wagering 3.5 BTC will release your bonus for withdraw. Your first bet on Slots, Casino games, Live Games is counted as wager.
3. Playing for fun means 'Free Play' for Slots and Casino games, or playing with FJC (playmoney) currency.

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They've made changes to the rules of the bonus since Saturday by deleting "Only bets made using bonus money will count towards the total wagering requirement,"  

Did they remove it because now all bets will count toward wagering requirement, regardless of whether it's bonus money or your initial deposit?

Maybe.  Maybe not.

Quote
"Before the first deposit bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino [...]  bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted.  
Is bonus money "turned over" starting with your first bet?

Quote
‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be."
What does 'playing for fun' mean? (does it mean you're not playing with real money? Or does it mean you're playing with your initial deposit?



Previous Version ( as of 5/14 around 3pm EST )  Red text ended up being deleted.

Quote
Deposit 777 play with 1777mBTC
Players will be entitled to a Welcome bonus up to 1 BTC with their first deposit.
1st deposit: 130% up to 1 BTC.
Minimum deposit of 0.777 BTC required for the bonus. The maximum bonus that can be claimed is 1 BTC.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions, bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the first deposit bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements)
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and live games. Only bets made using bonus money will count towards the total wagering requirement, bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
If Fortunejack suspects that player has committed bonus abuse, either on his own, or in association with partners, Fortunejack reserves the right to forfeit the bonus and void any winnings.

DEPOSIT BONUSES
Unless otherwise stated, the minimum qualifying deposit is 0.001 BTC.
The maximum bonus that can be claimed will be stated in each individual promotion.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions including bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements) before the player can request a withdrawal from their Fortunejack account; unless otherwise stated on the specific promotional details or rules.
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slot, live and casino games only. Only bets made using bonus money will count towards the total wagering requirement, bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
If a player requests a withdrawal before wagering requirements have been met, all bonus money and winnings accrued from bonus money will be forfeited.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
Bonuses offered by Fortunejack are intended for genuine recreational players only. Abuse of any bonus offer will not be tolerated. Fortunejack reserves the right to investigate, cancel, suspend or lock any account if bonus abuse is suspected. At our discretion, all bonuses and subsequent gaming activity may be revoked and voided, and deposits returned.
Fortunejack reserves the right to exclude players from any and all promotions if we have reason to believe they are abusing bonus offer.
If Fortunejack suspects that player has committed bonus abuse, either on his own, or in association with partners, Fortunejack reserves the right to forfeit the bonus and void any winnings.


Current Version:


Quote
Deposit 777 play with 1777mBTC
Players will be entitled to a Welcome bonus up to 1 BTC with their first deposit.
1st deposit: 130% up to 1 BTC.
Minimum deposit of 0.777 BTC required for the bonus. The maximum bonus that can be claimed is 1 BTC.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions, bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the first deposit bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements)
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and live games. Bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
If Fortunejack suspects that player has committed bonus abuse, either on his own, or in association with partners, Fortunejack reserves the right to forfeit the bonus and void any winnings.

DEPOSIT BONUSES
Unless otherwise stated, the minimum qualifying deposit is 0.001 BTC.
The maximum bonus that can be claimed will be stated in each individual promotion.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions including bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements) before the player can request a withdrawal from their Fortunejack account; unless otherwise stated on the specific promotional details or rules.
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slot, live and casino games only. Bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
If a player requests a withdrawal before wagering requirements have been met, all bonus money and winnings accrued from bonus money will be forfeited.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
Bonuses offered by Fortunejack are intended for genuine recreational players only. Abuse of any bonus offer will not be tolerated. Fortunejack reserves the right to investigate, cancel, suspend or lock any account if bonus abuse is suspected. At our discretion, all bonuses and subsequent gaming activity may be revoked and voided, and deposits returned.
Fortunejack reserves the right to exclude players from any and all promotions if we have reason to believe they are abusing bonus offer.


Since they didn't notify players before changing the terms of the bonus, does that mean changes to the terms aren't 'material'?  Or does it mean they don't intend to follow their own terms?
Quote
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect.



Correct, we got a feedback from players to make bonus more loyal and count bets made from both balances towards the wagering requirement, therefore we updated bonus terms.
1. All bets placed, whether its made from bonus or main balance count towards the wagering requirement.
2. If you deposit 0.1 BTC and get 0.1BTC as a bonus, to claim it in full, you must wager your bonus x35 times, so, wagering 3.5 BTC will release your bonus for withdraw. Your first bet on Slots, Casino games, Live Games is counted as wager.
3. Playing for fun means 'Free Play' for Slots and Casino games, or playing with FJC (playmoney) currency.

It is now deposit 777 play with 777 and if you wager it 50x you will play with 1BTC more?

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May 17, 2016, 04:59:32 PM
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The rake is advertised as 4% at cash tables, but they are taking 5%. This needs to be fixed immediately.

No response to this? Should be fixed. Uncapped 5% rake for a bitcoin poker site is just stupid.

The extra 1% is distributed among the top rake makers of the network, this is a mandatory requirement of the network we are enrolled in.
You really think it's ok to advertise 4% and then take 5%?  It's not.  You should give it back, apologize and stop taking money from players you aren't entitled to.




Slot Games - 100% contribution
Live Games - 100% contribution
Casino Games - 100% contribution
Provably Fair Casino Games - 50% contribution

I think you are wrong about Live, Casino and PV contributions. 

You should def double check those number, the bonus will give players the edge in any game with 3% house edge or less.  I'm all for giving players an edge, but you've already proven how you handle promotions that don't go the way you thought they would.  The players pay for it in the end, not FortuneJack.



Correct, we got a feedback from players to make bonus more loyal and count bets made from both balances towards the wagering requirement, therefore we updated bonus terms.
No, the feedback was that your terms were not clear and your deposit bonus was actually a loss rebate.  Why not just say "oops, sorry about that" 



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May 17, 2016, 05:42:42 PM
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They've made changes to the rules of the bonus since Saturday by deleting "Only bets made using bonus money will count towards the total wagering requirement,"  

Did they remove it because now all bets will count toward wagering requirement, regardless of whether it's bonus money or your initial deposit?

Maybe.  Maybe not.

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"Before the first deposit bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino [...]  bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted.  
Is bonus money "turned over" starting with your first bet?

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‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be."
What does 'playing for fun' mean? (does it mean you're not playing with real money? Or does it mean you're playing with your initial deposit?



Previous Version ( as of 5/14 around 3pm EST )  Red text ended up being deleted.

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Deposit 777 play with 1777mBTC
Players will be entitled to a Welcome bonus up to 1 BTC with their first deposit.
1st deposit: 130% up to 1 BTC.
Minimum deposit of 0.777 BTC required for the bonus. The maximum bonus that can be claimed is 1 BTC.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions, bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the first deposit bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements)
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and live games. Only bets made using bonus money will count towards the total wagering requirement, bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
If Fortunejack suspects that player has committed bonus abuse, either on his own, or in association with partners, Fortunejack reserves the right to forfeit the bonus and void any winnings.

DEPOSIT BONUSES
Unless otherwise stated, the minimum qualifying deposit is 0.001 BTC.
The maximum bonus that can be claimed will be stated in each individual promotion.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions including bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements) before the player can request a withdrawal from their Fortunejack account; unless otherwise stated on the specific promotional details or rules.
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slot, live and casino games only. Only bets made using bonus money will count towards the total wagering requirement, bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
If a player requests a withdrawal before wagering requirements have been met, all bonus money and winnings accrued from bonus money will be forfeited.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
Bonuses offered by Fortunejack are intended for genuine recreational players only. Abuse of any bonus offer will not be tolerated. Fortunejack reserves the right to investigate, cancel, suspend or lock any account if bonus abuse is suspected. At our discretion, all bonuses and subsequent gaming activity may be revoked and voided, and deposits returned.
Fortunejack reserves the right to exclude players from any and all promotions if we have reason to believe they are abusing bonus offer.
If Fortunejack suspects that player has committed bonus abuse, either on his own, or in association with partners, Fortunejack reserves the right to forfeit the bonus and void any winnings.


Current Version:


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Deposit 777 play with 1777mBTC
Players will be entitled to a Welcome bonus up to 1 BTC with their first deposit.
1st deposit: 130% up to 1 BTC.
Minimum deposit of 0.777 BTC required for the bonus. The maximum bonus that can be claimed is 1 BTC.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions, bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the first deposit bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements)
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slots, casino games and live games. Bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
If Fortunejack suspects that player has committed bonus abuse, either on his own, or in association with partners, Fortunejack reserves the right to forfeit the bonus and void any winnings.

DEPOSIT BONUSES
Unless otherwise stated, the minimum qualifying deposit is 0.001 BTC.
The maximum bonus that can be claimed will be stated in each individual promotion.
The bonus awarded will be credited to a player's bonus amount balance and is subject to our standard terms and conditions including bonus terms and wagering requirements.
When wagering, funds on the main account will be used prior to the use of bonus money.
Before the bonus money is converted into money that can be withdrawn, the bonus money must be turned over 35 times in the Casino (minimum wagering requirements) before the player can request a withdrawal from their Fortunejack account; unless otherwise stated on the specific promotional details or rules.
Wagering requirements can be met by playing on slot, live and casino games only. Bonus money begins when your original cash deposit is depleted. ‘Playing for fun’ on any game does not count towards any wagering (turnover) requirement there may be.
If a player requests a withdrawal before wagering requirements have been met, all bonus money and winnings accrued from bonus money will be forfeited.
Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect. Notwithstanding, Fortunejack may, at its sole discretion, make non- material changes to these terms and conditions, the promotion itself, or the eligibility of players to participate in this promotion, for any reason whatsoever without prior notice to the players.
Bonuses offered by Fortunejack are intended for genuine recreational players only. Abuse of any bonus offer will not be tolerated. Fortunejack reserves the right to investigate, cancel, suspend or lock any account if bonus abuse is suspected. At our discretion, all bonuses and subsequent gaming activity may be revoked and voided, and deposits returned.
Fortunejack reserves the right to exclude players from any and all promotions if we have reason to believe they are abusing bonus offer.


Since they didn't notify players before changing the terms of the bonus, does that mean changes to the terms aren't 'material'?  Or does it mean they don't intend to follow their own terms?
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Fortunejack will notify players of any material change to these terms and conditions before they come into effect.



Correct, we got a feedback from players to make bonus more loyal and count bets made from both balances towards the wagering requirement, therefore we updated bonus terms.
1. All bets placed, whether its made from bonus or main balance count towards the wagering requirement.
2. If you deposit 0.1 BTC and get 0.1BTC as a bonus, to claim it in full, you must wager your bonus x35 times, so, wagering 3.5 BTC will release your bonus for withdraw. Your first bet on Slots, Casino games, Live Games is counted as wager.
3. Playing for fun means 'Free Play' for Slots and Casino games, or playing with FJC (playmoney) currency.

It is now deposit 777 play with 777 and if you wager it 50x you will play with 1BTC more?

Deposit 777 play with 1777mBTC, get 1 BTC instantly! You can always withdraw 777 or any winnings accumulated betting with main balance. You can play with 1 BTC bonus, but cannot withdraw it until the wagering requirement (x35) is met. Hope this answers your question.

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