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Author Topic: [~1000 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fee Pool, LP, SSL, Full Precision, and More  (Read 360049 times)
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July 20, 2011, 03:05:40 PM
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the display showing 0 one load, then proper the next does not seam like a big deal...

I am more concerned that my share just dropped about 20%.  from .135 to about .11

must be the increase in giga... 
7,534 workers at 2866.66 GH/s

this was at 2200 last I looked

Whoa, just jumped 500+ Ghash since my last refresh like 15 minutes ago?


didn't it seem like ~2000 gh/s was a sweet spot for a pool? or maybe it was just me.
but yes.. it looks like delayed stats is not hurting the pool as it is still growing. stability
seems to be a key ingredient for that.
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July 20, 2011, 03:06:18 PM
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Question about pool hopping and the 1 hour delay...

It's too bad pool hopping caused us to lose the ability to get a more real-time look at what's going on....anyhow, am new to this but it seems that you could easily see when a block ends simply by watching the log console output when you get a new block?  Am I missing something?  Just wondering if this is actually effective or we're just hurting the honest folks.

PS: I don't 'hop' to abuse the system but I have been in and out of a few pools as I try to figure all this stuff out and which site I like the best.  So far I do like the look & feel of BTC Guild's website the best for what it's worth.

I am new too, but I think I know the answer to this one.

when you see a new block being worked on, you dont know what pool, or solo person found the last block, so you dont know which pool to jump on to.

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July 20, 2011, 03:12:40 PM
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the display showing 0 one load, then proper the next does not seam like a big deal...

I am more concerned that my share just dropped about 20%.  from .135 to about .11

must be the increase in giga... 
7,534 workers at 2866.66 GH/s

this was at 2200 last I looked

Whoa, just jumped 500+ Ghash since my last refresh like 15 minutes ago?


didn't it seem like ~2000 gh/s was a sweet spot for a pool? or maybe it was just me.
but yes.. it looks like delayed stats is not hurting the pool as it is still growing. stability
seems to be a key ingredient for that.

The 500 GH/s surge was inaccurate.  The speed is calculated by share submissions in the last 15 minutes.  Somebody tried to game the system by submitting the same share from a large number of miners all at once.  Obviously the pool returned them as invalid, but invalids still get included in the share submissions for the last 15 minutes, causing the speed to show a huge sipke.


I applied a fix to the worker stats caching which should eliminate the '0 speed' glitch.

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July 20, 2011, 03:22:09 PM
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I've started to single out suspect accounts which are either being used by a lot of IPs, or showing a large number getworks with low return rates/speed (likely to be a very large CPU mining operation).

While CPU mining is not banned from BTC Guild, they are discouraged when used in large numbers.  They are ineffective, slow, and anybody running them is likely doing so either behind the owner's back (computer lab/client computers of an IT company), or by misinforming the owner's ("They're on 24/7 anyway").

There is absolutely no situation I can find where it is cost effective for somebody to be running a CPU server farm for mining.  Somebody is going to eat that bill, and I highly doubt its the person running them.  By running these huge numbers of CPU miners, you are negatively impacting the rest of the pool.  Each CPU miner is consuming server resources similar to a GPU miner.  Long poll sessions are a fixed cost for the pool regardless of the miner speed.  Additionally, most of these CPU miners are asking for work every 5 or 10 seconds, even though they take many minutes to send something back.

If your account gets singled out, you will see a large warning on the My Account page directing you to a special server address which has long polling disabled.  This special server was put in place to keep the primary servers healthy and running stable.

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July 20, 2011, 03:32:05 PM
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I've started to single out suspect accounts which are either being used by a lot of IPs, or showing a large number getworks with low return rates/speed (likely to be a very large CPU mining operation).

While CPU mining is not banned from BTC Guild, they are discouraged when used in large numbers.  They are ineffective, slow, and anybody running them is likely doing so either behind the owner's back (computer lab/client computers of an IT company), or by misinforming the owner's ("They're on 24/7 anyway").

There is absolutely no situation I can find where it is cost effective for somebody to be running a CPU server farm for mining.  Somebody is going to eat that bill, and I highly doubt its the person running them.  By running these huge numbers of CPU miners, you are negatively impacting the rest of the pool.  Each CPU miner is consuming server resources similar to a GPU miner.  Long poll sessions are a fixed cost for the pool regardless of the miner speed.  Additionally, most of these CPU miners are asking for work every 5 or 10 seconds, even though they take many minutes to send something back.

If your account gets singled out, you will see a large warning on the My Account page directing you to a special server address which has long polling disabled.  This special server was put in place to keep the primary servers healthy and running stable.

Always nice to see a proactive server admin Smiley

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July 20, 2011, 03:39:31 PM
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E:,  that sounds like a good compromise for the cpu miners (no long polling)   NICE JOB>

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July 20, 2011, 03:40:51 PM
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If your account gets singled out, you will see a large warning on the My Account page directing you to a special server address which has long polling disabled.  This special server was put in place to keep the primary servers healthy and running stable.

Could you provide the server address here or on the site incase someone were to be doing this, and wanted to proactively move to that server
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July 20, 2011, 03:52:06 PM
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"Request Payout" now gives me An error occurred while processing your payout, please try again..

Anyone else having problems with payouts or is it just me? :/

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July 20, 2011, 03:55:19 PM
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E:,  that sounds like a good compromise for the cpu miners (no long polling)   NICE JOB>

i am hoping this will stop the ddos.
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July 20, 2011, 03:58:08 PM
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"Request Payout" now gives me An error occurred while processing your payout, please try again..

Anyone else having problems with payouts or is it just me? :/

same here hope its fixed soon

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July 20, 2011, 04:06:56 PM
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"Request Payout" now gives me An error occurred while processing your payout, please try again..

Anyone else having problems with payouts or is it just me? :/

same here hope its fixed soon

knowing our luck BTC will spike to 30 bucks and then go down as soon as it is fixed ;-)
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July 20, 2011, 04:12:20 PM
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I've started to single out suspect accounts which are either being used by a lot of IPs, or showing a large number getworks with low return rates/speed (likely to be a very large CPU mining operation).

While CPU mining is not banned from BTC Guild, they are discouraged when used in large numbers.  They are ineffective, slow, and anybody running them is likely doing so either behind the owner's back (computer lab/client computers of an IT company), or by misinforming the owner's ("They're on 24/7 anyway").

There is absolutely no situation I can find where it is cost effective for somebody to be running a CPU server farm for mining.  Somebody is going to eat that bill, and I highly doubt its the person running them.  By running these huge numbers of CPU miners, you are negatively impacting the rest of the pool.  Each CPU miner is consuming server resources similar to a GPU miner.  Long poll sessions are a fixed cost for the pool regardless of the miner speed.  Additionally, most of these CPU miners are asking for work every 5 or 10 seconds, even though they take many minutes to send something back.

If your account gets singled out, you will see a large warning on the My Account page directing you to a special server address which has long polling disabled.  This special server was put in place to keep the primary servers healthy and running stable.

Always nice to see a proactive server admin Smiley


+1! Very nice!
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July 20, 2011, 04:23:03 PM
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"Request Payout" now gives me An error occurred while processing your payout, please try again..

Anyone else having problems with payouts or is it just me? :/

same here hope its fixed soon

knowing our luck BTC will spike to 30 bucks and then go down as soon as it is fixed ;-)

seems to be fixed now, thanks.

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July 20, 2011, 04:23:46 PM
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"Request Payout" now gives me An error occurred while processing your payout, please try again..

Anyone else having problems with payouts or is it just me? :/

same here hope its fixed soon

knowing our luck BTC will spike to 30 bucks and then go down as soon as it is fixed ;-)

Not a big issue unless you've never cashed out and is storing huge amounts on your BTC Guild account Cheesy

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July 20, 2011, 04:25:49 PM
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Fixed the problem with payout processing.

I've also had quite a few emails regarding the new stats "Last Block Awarded" and "Shares Since Last".

Last Block Awarded is just as it sounds.  It's how long since a block was announced and the rewards were allocated to accounts.  Everytime that timer resets, you will have new confirmed/unconfirmed rewards (assuming you participated in that block).

"Shares Since Last" is a compromise.  Many people were upset that "Round Shares" was removed.  The increasing counter provided some sign that the server as a whole was continuing to accumulate shares towards the next block.

The value of Shares Since Last will be equal to:  The number of shares since the last block announcement, plus one hour.  So if a block was announced 45 minutes ago, Shares Since Last will contain 1 hour and 45 minutes of shares.  There may be any number of unannounced blocks that are waiting to be announced (solved within the last hour).  It is possible there are no blocks in that number as well.

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July 20, 2011, 05:07:08 PM
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Fixed the problem with payout processing.

I've also had quite a few emails regarding the new stats "Last Block Awarded" and "Shares Since Last".

Last Block Awarded is just as it sounds.  It's how long since a block was announced and the rewards were allocated to accounts.  Everytime that timer resets, you will have new confirmed/unconfirmed rewards (assuming you participated in that block).

"Shares Since Last" is a compromise.  Many people were upset that "Round Shares" was removed.  The increasing counter provided some sign that the server as a whole was continuing to accumulate shares towards the next block.

The value of Shares Since Last will be equal to:  The number of shares since the last block announcement, plus one hour.  So if a block was announced 45 minutes ago, Shares Since Last will contain 1 hour and 45 minutes of shares.  There may be any number of unannounced blocks that are waiting to be announced (solved within the last hour).  It is possible there are no blocks in that number as well.

Any possibility these could get added to the JSON API? These are good stats for widgets/pool health monitoring.

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July 20, 2011, 05:47:00 PM
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I haven't been home most of the day, so I can't be more specific about the times, but my 2 workers keep reverting back to my backup pool (not btcguild), I think they have been doing that most of today, they are pointed to log on us.btcguild, anyone else having those issues?

Once again, thanks for a great pool!

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July 20, 2011, 05:51:58 PM
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I haven't been home most of the day, so I can't be more specific about the times, but my 2 workers keep reverting back to my backup pool (not btcguild), I think they have been doing that most of today, they are pointed to log on us.btcguild, anyone else having those issues?

Once again, thanks for a great pool!

Yes, I just checked and some miners went to the backup pool 9 minutes ago while another 2 hours ago. There is definitevely problems with the connection.
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July 20, 2011, 06:04:52 PM
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I've started to single out suspect accounts which are either being used by a lot of IPs, or showing a large number getworks with low return rates/speed (likely to be a very large CPU mining operation).

While CPU mining is not banned from BTC Guild, they are discouraged when used in large numbers.  They are ineffective, slow, and anybody running them is likely doing so either behind the owner's back (computer lab/client computers of an IT company), or by misinforming the owner's ("They're on 24/7 anyway").

There is absolutely no situation I can find where it is cost effective for somebody to be running a CPU server farm for mining.  Somebody is going to eat that bill, and I highly doubt its the person running them.  By running these huge numbers of CPU miners, you are negatively impacting the rest of the pool.  Each CPU miner is consuming server resources similar to a GPU miner.  Long poll sessions are a fixed cost for the pool regardless of the miner speed.  Additionally, most of these CPU miners are asking for work every 5 or 10 seconds, even though they take many minutes to send something back.

If your account gets singled out, you will see a large warning on the My Account page directing you to a special server address which has long polling disabled.  This special server was put in place to keep the primary servers healthy and running stable.

on the first page on deepbit's thread he recommends that cpu miners set it to 5 seconds(the example he gives has it set that way) i don't have mine set that way on your server, but went with what he recommended on his. its possible that someone that went from his server to yours simply copied the settings. not saying this is the case... but its possible for a few of them.
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July 20, 2011, 06:07:29 PM
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Eleuthria: Is it possible to show corrupted shares as a separate stat from stales instead of a single stale count? Since many of us are overclocking our cards, it would be helpful to know if some of us have overdone it and actually wasting resources and submitting corrupted shares.

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