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July 18, 2011, 03:15:53 PM |
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the analogy sucked. oh well.
the end result of btcguild going to delayed stats seems to be working well on the short
term. My 24 hour expected payout is back on track (some luck helps too!) and what i
am making per solved block sure became a lot less erratic.
the pool hopper thread is now a lot busier as people come up with different plans to
defeat the delayed stats which is good in my mind. let them get to work. their project
is more complicated then the first which could be scratched together easily.
and i have a feeling a lot of the hate in the last few pages are from people who got
just a bit too used to making extra BTC on the backs of other's computing power while
they solve the long rounds. alas.. easy come, easy go.
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PcChip
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July 18, 2011, 04:37:56 PM |
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Since the delayed stats, my payouts per block have been amazingly stable as well, around .025 BTC per block.
Ellipses, while I don't agree with your long post above ("use this as a learning experience...") , I do have to say it was well written.
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July 18, 2011, 05:05:52 PM |
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FWIW I switched BTC Guild from my back up pool to my main pool today with my 1.2GH/s when I learned about delayed stats being implemented. Before, my payouts were highly erratic and slightly less than expected. We'll see after a few days how they are, but so far the payout per blocks are pretty consistent. Kudos for sticking it to the pool hoppers.
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JinTu
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July 18, 2011, 05:26:46 PM |
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Thanks for getting the Last Share stats working again eleuthria!   |
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eleuthria (OP)
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July 18, 2011, 05:58:05 PM |
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Thanks for getting the Last Share stats working again eleuthria! That graph is so painful to look at, poor CPU miners. Although that's a pretty good example of variance in bitcoin hashing, since a CPU working on difficulty 1 is pretty similar to a pool working on difficulty 1.5 million =). |
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JinTu
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July 18, 2011, 06:34:49 PM |
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Thanks for getting the Last Share stats working again eleuthria! That graph is so painful to look at, poor CPU miners. Although that's a pretty good example of variance in bitcoin hashing, since a CPU working on difficulty 1 is pretty similar to a pool working on difficulty 1.5 million =). Hehe... Yea, and this graph is from my most powerful miner at the moment while the 6990s are on backorder  |
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July 18, 2011, 08:02:16 PM |
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Just to make it explicit:
I removed btcguild from my lists of pools since a week ago I keep getting +40% stales.
I don't know what is wrong, but definitively something is wrong, because I only get such high stale numbers with btcguild.
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eleuthria (OP)
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July 18, 2011, 08:34:41 PM
Last edit: July 18, 2011, 08:44:49 PM by eleuthria |
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Just to make it explicit:
I removed btcguild from my lists of pools since a week ago I keep getting +40% stales.
I don't know what is wrong, but definitively something is wrong, because I only get such high stale numbers with btcguild.
PM me your IP. It is a problem on your end guaranteed. You will NOT get a stale rate over 2% without it being due to bad behavior by your miners. Properly configured miners should be seeing stale rate steady at 0.5% or less. My money is on you're one of the people that had a miner/proxy submitting shares to all of our servers round robin style. Added a "Last Block Shown" timer to give people a counter since our last block was announced. |
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PcChip
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July 18, 2011, 08:55:16 PM |
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Just to make it explicit:
I removed btcguild from my lists of pools since a week ago I keep getting +40% stales.
I don't know what is wrong, but definitively something is wrong, because I only get such high stale numbers with btcguild.
Since he switched to the super server, my stales have been 0.25%-0.4%, and only 1% on my 3-year-old's computer which uses a different miner (cgminer) |
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July 18, 2011, 08:59:45 PM |
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Any chance we could request payout for certain amount instead of full amount? Is that the 1.5% donation or is that different?
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eleuthria (OP)
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July 18, 2011, 09:14:18 PM |
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In addition to "Time Since Last" I added "Shares Since Last".
These stats are just as they sound: The time since the last block announcement, and the shares since the last block announcement.
The share count may contain multiple blocks, neither stat gives any information towards when a new block has begun.
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jme621
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July 18, 2011, 09:27:35 PM |
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In addition to "Time Since Last" I added "Shares Since Last".
These stats are just as they sound: The time since the last block announcement, and the shares since the last block announcement.
The share count may contain multiple blocks, neither stat gives any information towards when a new block has begun.
ty |
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July 18, 2011, 09:28:15 PM |
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FWIW I switched BTC Guild from my back up pool to my main pool today with my 1.2GH/s when I learned about delayed stats being implemented. Before, my payouts were highly erratic and slightly less than expected. We'll see after a few days how they are, but so far the payout per blocks are pretty consistent. Kudos for sticking it to the pool hoppers.
One interesting change that I am experiencing since 4 days ago: shorter rounds now have lower payouts. The opposite was true before the change!!! |
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July 18, 2011, 09:35:58 PM |
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this trend has been developing since the 34 sec round at block #1700, in which the payout was 2X normal.
note the 2 min round at #1714, which was about 20% below the weighted average for rounds less than 5 min in length for the last month.
an hour plus ago, see 1718, 1719, 1720, and 1721.
In general, though, for round longer than about 12 minutes, the payouts are now remarkably consistent.
we are cranking!
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July 18, 2011, 10:30:00 PM |
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Any chance we could request payout for certain amount instead of full amount? Is that the 1.5% donation or is that different?
Yes, make this happen. But there should be no reason for us to donate to have this. Threshold payments are a standard feature on most major pools. |
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irishmick
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July 18, 2011, 11:04:59 PM |
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Any chance we could request payout for certain amount instead of full amount? Is that the 1.5% donation or is that different?
Yes, make this happen. But there should be no reason for us to donate to have this. Threshold payments are a standard feature on most major pools./end of colored text. |
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July 18, 2011, 11:17:59 PM |
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Any chance we could request payout for certain amount instead of full amount? Is that the 1.5% donation or is that different?
Yes, make this happen. But there should be no reason for us to donate to have this. Threshold payments are a standard feature on most major pools./end of colored text. Exactly. If you look on the top of the block statistics page, It shows you everything the pool operator has made as income (not a whole lot BTW). Now factor in his expenses. He probably has not made more than $500.00 (I'm betting less) in profit for the entire life of the pool. People need to stop complaining that they cant get everything for free. |
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July 19, 2011, 12:02:01 AM
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First and foremost, thanks for a great pool!
I've noticed, my 2 workers can't connect to uswest, this happend like 10-15 mins ago, after a few days with quite a few idles (my miner restarts after an idle time of 4 secs, and after 2 restarts within 2 minutes it goes to backup). Anyone else having this issue?
I'm using Win7 32bit, AOCLBF 1.75, with Phoenix 1.5, with the modded PhatK 07-17-11 kernel.
Thanks in advance.
edit: Thanks for the fast fix.
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fcmatt
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July 19, 2011, 12:04:00 AM |
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short rounds.. as in under 15 minutes lets say really has a lot of luck involved when it comes to your
payout. i am pretty much the exact opposite. in the recent short rounds i did pretty well. as in quite
average, sometimes a bit above, with one round that was 36 seconds i did great.
but sometimes it is the reverse. block 1700 i just did not squeeze in enough shares and thus i was paid
below average.
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fcmatt
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July 19, 2011, 12:06:28 AM |
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First and foremost, thanks for a great pool!
I've noticed, my 2 workers can't connect to uswest, this happend like 10-15 mins ago, after a few days with quite a few idles (my miner restarts after an idle time of 4 secs, and after 2 restarts within 2 minutes it goes to backup). Anyone else having this issue?
I'm using Win7 32bit, AOCLBF 1.75, with Phoenix 1.5, with the modded PhatK 07-17-11 kernel.
Thanks in advance.
ditto here. about 15-20 minutes ago i found a PC with a public IP (no nat) with two miners unable to connect to us.btcguild.com. what is odd is that i have a couple of other boxes with public IPs who could connect. they were unable to connect for about 12 minutes when i found them (very lucky on my part) win7 x64 phoenix with phatk. identical machine... just a diff pub IP was chugging along just fine. to fix it i changed it to useast.btcguild.com whatever. instead of us.btcguild.com |
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