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December 15, 2015, 01:44:05 PM
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I would say go for the content, if that is shit then please feel free to ignore users. Yes, a lot of sig ad paid people write only to round up their gains but this forum lives out of it. Mods are paid to keep the forum clean by those who are accused of having created the "plague".
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Technically moderation isn't a job, we get rewarded for our efforts. Not showing signatures does not help due to the fact that you still see their posts. Ignoring helps, but that would mean that I'd have to ignore almost all signature campaign participants. This is definitely not an efficient solution/workaround.

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December 15, 2015, 01:54:58 PM
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I would say go for the content, if that is shit then please feel free to ignore users. Yes, a lot of sig ad paid people write only to round up their gains but this forum lives out of it. Mods are paid to keep the forum clean by those who are accused of having created the "plague".
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Technically moderation isn't a job, we get rewarded for our efforts. Not showing signatures does not help due to the fact that you still see their posts. Ignoring helps, but that would mean that I'd have to ignore almost all signature campaign participants. This is definitely not an efficient solution/workaround.

No Lauda, I'm saying you disable the signature and you see what they write not that you ignore everyone!
I know for staff is different beacuse you have to read what people write, but I don't  Wink

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December 15, 2015, 02:16:24 PM
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I know for staff is different beacuse you have to read what people write, but I don't  Wink
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December 16, 2015, 12:39:46 AM
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I know for staff is different beacuse you have to read what people write, but I don't  Wink
Technically we don't either; we don't have to do almost anything. However, I think the best way to remove this problem is by tackling its root (they don't have to be necessarily removed, guidelines/restrictions could be made).
I have just removed my signature campaign. All I have to say is that most people posting in signature campaigns are either people living in third-world countries or people who find way to abuse the signature campaign. Sig campaigns greatly reduce the quality of this forum with people who only post for the Bitcoins, even if it is not much. It leaves us skilled computer users dealing with a ton of spam. What I found is there is a lot of programming and many other gigs available on this forum and those living in third-world nations should get more skilled

Signatures? How about learning a skill... I don't care either way. Everybody has to make a living somehow.
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December 16, 2015, 12:41:19 AM
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Sig campaigns shouldn't be disabled. It generates a lot of traffic and comments to this site. If your only argument is post quality then please go and post on another bitcoin forum.

You are rich and there's people less fortunate than you. Please consider them as well.

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December 16, 2015, 09:30:54 AM
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Sig campaigns shouldn't be disabled. It generates a lot of traffic and comments to this site. If your only argument is post quality then please go and post on another bitcoin forum.

You are rich and there's people less fortunate than you. Please consider them as well.

That is what I thought. Without advertisement, this forum cannot survive. I also see the gambling ads on this first page of every topic, should that be disabled?
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December 16, 2015, 09:33:50 AM
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Sig campaigns shouldn't be disabled. It generates a lot of traffic and comments to this site. If your only argument is post quality then please go and post on another bitcoin forum.

You are rich and there's people less fortunate than you. Please consider them as well.

That is what I thought. Without advertisement, this forum cannot survive. I also see the gambling ads on this first page of every topic, should that be disabled?

The forum will survive quite easily without signature campaigns, just with less traffic, but the forum ads don't generate thousands of spammy posts so why would they be disabled.

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December 16, 2015, 11:47:06 AM
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The ads are shit, too. There should be a function to ignore them. This forum just finished blowing buckets of coin on from-scratch software design; it doesn't need our monies.
There's a place in your settings that you can choose to ignore ads if you so desire.
Profile->Forum Profile Information->Disable Ads.

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December 16, 2015, 01:11:42 PM
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The ads are shit, too. There should be a function to ignore them. This forum just finished blowing buckets of coin on from-scratch software design; it doesn't need our monies.
There's a place in your settings that you can choose to ignore ads if you so desire.
Profile->Forum Profile Information->Disable Ads.

The issue is not the ads....the issue has always been the useless posts. Ignoring the ads does not help with the spam has always been the issue. Look at any thread here and you will see 10 people all post the same answers just worded slightly different.

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The issue is not the ads....the issue has always been the useless posts. Ignoring the ads does not help with the spam has always been the issue. Look at any thread here and you will see 10 people all post the same answers just worded slightly different.
He asked for a way to 'ignore' the ads here, so I told him. I know what the problem is, and that it isn't the ads.

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The issue is not the ads....the issue has always been the useless posts. Ignoring the ads does not help with the spam has always been the issue. Look at any thread here and you will see 10 people all post the same answers just worded slightly different.


No. What will people write if they have similar opinion towards a discussion? Will they just stay silent because one member has already expressed the same views? This is not a contest buddy! Wink

Now, if you see them posting same opinions again and again on different forums then you have the "Ignore" button beside their username. Just a left click on that option would be enough I guess. Or, isn't that simple to you either? Undecided

No, the reality here is threads started simply for post count and replied to endlessly for the same reason. This spam drowns out and makes difficult to find any original worthwhile content.
IRL, if you were in a group of people and one made a statement or asked a question, would everyone else reply with the same short answer phrased slightly differently, for hours and hours afterward?
No, exactly, it's not a contest.
If people don't have anything original to say they should just STFU. But they don't, because they don't get paid for that.

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December 16, 2015, 02:45:08 PM
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Nope. Can't find it Huh
You don't have this selection box?

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Nope. Can't find it Huh
You don't have this selection box?


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December 16, 2015, 03:07:48 PM
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The forum is nearing the lowest point content-wise I have seen. Click on just about any thread and it is mindless replies and bumps from people with big signature ads pushing something. There is nothing here, no content, no dialog. It is certainly not the place for cryptographers and programmers and entrepreneurs to exchange information about Bitcoin. If you are lucky, you will find someone completely out of their depth asking a stupid question answered a hundred times, someone that then cannot understand the answer.

There is no reason or need for a signature. Limiting the BBcode to higher-activity members helped the look of the forum, but just creates a market for old accounts to do the spamming.

What is needed is to deincentivize this crap posting by completely removing the signature. End the signature campaigns and the pay for obnoxious scam sites. People are profiting from posting nonsense and making this forum useless, and this is seemingly the only way to make it stop.

Then we have the activity/post count chasers, which you can see from dozens of "why isn't my activity going up" posts. There's another number that can just be removed from posts. Take away that incentive to post junk also.
There is a script which allows you to disable signatures in this forum. You wont have any issues after enabling it. But I personally don't mind the signatures, they're not putting a gun against my head.. Smiley

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December 16, 2015, 03:26:41 PM
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Nuts Cry
Just another activity period to go for that option to be available  Wink
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Just another activity period to go for that option to be available  Wink

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December 16, 2015, 04:22:07 PM
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I know for staff is different beacuse you have to read what people write, but I don't  Wink
Technically we don't either; we don't have to do almost anything. However, I think the best way to remove this problem is by tackling its root (they don't have to be necessarily removed, guidelines/restrictions could be made).
I have just removed my signature campaign. All I have to say is that most people posting in signature campaigns are either people living in third-world countries or people who find way to abuse the signature campaign. Sig campaigns greatly reduce the quality of this forum with people who only post for the Bitcoins, even if it is not much. It leaves us skilled computer users dealing with a ton of spam. What I found is there is a lot of programming and many other gigs available on this forum and those living in third-world nations should get more skilled

So you are saying that people in third worlds don't have a right to benefit from Bitcoin? I remember reading some stories about how some guys that were unfortunate to be born in some of these shitholes were making more money thought signature campaigns than they did working a real job (where they are exploited for peanuts). Isn't this beautiful? Bitcoin is liberating people, this should be celebrated in any case.

Anyway, I live in a first world country, and unemployment is only getting worse. Getting some extra bucks a week is greatly appreciated. Removing sig campaigns would be removing an actual use case of Bitcoin that directly benefits real people (both the people getting paid and the people improving traffic into their websites by promoting it through them, not to mention the website itself benefits as traffic is way higher and it ranks better).
I would also stop buying stuff with Bitcoin because I only buy stuff If I get paid with it, buying Bitcoin then buying something with it makes no sense.

If you want to be elitist, maybe you could disable signatures in a specific new subforum called "technical talk" or something, where it's impossible to get paid if you post there, filtering any possible spam. Other than that, doing this with the entire forum is a mistake.
If someone spams, mods see it and ban them already, so this is really a non issue. If the colorful banners offend your eyes, it's also a non issue since disabling ads will be possible soon for Hero+. I personally tried a script when I wasn't in a sig campaign to disable all signatures and the forum looked extremely sameish. My eyes have become used at posts being separated by banners at this point.

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December 17, 2015, 11:53:20 AM
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I have just removed my signature campaign. All I have to say is that most people posting in signature campaigns are either people living in third-world countries or people who find way to abuse the signature campaign. Sig campaigns greatly reduce the quality of this forum with people who only post for the Bitcoins, even if it is not much. It leaves us skilled computer users dealing with a ton of spam. What I found is there is a lot of programming and many other gigs available on this forum and those living in third-world nations should get more skilled
That is a case of faulty generalization right there. I'm not living in a third-world country nor am I abusing the campaign (at least that is what I think and so does the manager). My posting habits have not changed since I've joined/changed campaigns. If anything, the amount of posts that I make is lower. While I do agree that most people spam, we can never say that it is the case with everyone. However, I still support disabling signature campaigns/imposing restrictions/other.

There is a script which allows you to disable signatures in this forum. You wont have any issues after enabling it. But I personally don't mind the signatures, they're not putting a gun against my head.. Smiley
That does nothing to solve spam.

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December 17, 2015, 12:32:54 PM
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All I have to say is that most people posting in signature campaigns are either people living in third-world countries or people who find way to abuse the signature campaign.
I'm English, and I find my post quality to be fairly high. If anything, my post quality has mainly improved since joining a signature campaign as I've stopped posting in areas such as Off Topic or Games and Rounds to keep my post quality high.

Sig campaigns greatly reduce the quality of this forum with people who only post for the Bitcoins, even if it is not much. It leaves us skilled computer users dealing with a ton of spam.
While this is my opinion, god damn you seem to have a big ego. Posts like this:
I don't need to be a part of this campaign. Most of my time online is spent programming/setting up online businesses. That sure pays more than signature campaigns.
with the only purpose of basically saying "I'm better than you all because I don't need a signature campaign" really make you look like a dick.

Also, it's pretty funny that you boast about making so much that you don't need a campaign, yet still recently tried making a bot to rob faucet owners (people trying to make money through web development) for dust without giving them ad revenue. Cunt.

What I found is there is a lot of programming and many other gigs available on this forum and those living in third-world nations should get more skilled
Or maybe they don't want to learn coding, since that isn't for everyone. I've made much more helping people and posting on this forum than I've ever made doing web development jobs. Perhaps you should stop generalizing others to stroke your own ego and go back to doing your well paid development jobs.

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I'm English, and I find my post quality to be fairly high. If anything, my post quality has mainly improved since joining a signature campaign as I've stopped posting in areas such as Off Topic or Games and Rounds to keep my post quality high.
Good for you. I do not mean to generalize, I am just pointing out that there are many one line sentences who post with a campaign. I used to be involved in sig campaigns myself, and I am Canadian. I am not saying it's a bad thing people in Africa can eat off a sig campaign, I'm just saying it it possible and making note of that.
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Sig campaigns greatly reduce the quality of this forum with people who only post for the Bitcoins, even if it is not much. It leaves us skilled computer users dealing with a ton of spam.
While this is my opinion, god damn you seem to have a big ego. Posts like this:
I don't need to be a part of this campaign. Most of my time online is spent programming/setting up online businesses. That sure pays more than signature campaigns.
with the only purpose of basically saying "I'm better than you all because I don't need a signature campaign" really make you look like a dick.

Also, it's pretty funny that you boast about making so much that you don't need a campaign, yet still recently tried making a bot to rob faucet owners (people trying to make money through web development) for dust without giving them ad revenue. Cunt.
Well, think what you want. If it were not me it would be some other "cunt".
What I found is there is a lot of programming and many other gigs available on this forum and those living in third-world nations should get more skilled
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Or maybe they don't want to learn coding, since that isn't for everyone. I've made much more helping people and posting on this forum than I've ever made doing web development jobs. Perhaps you should stop generalizing others to stroke your own ego and go back to doing your well paid development jobs.
I don't mean to come across as having a big ego and there are many ways to make money online with enough effort. If you want to help people, by all means.

I have just removed my signature campaign. All I have to say is that most people posting in signature campaigns are either people living in third-world countries or people who find way to abuse the signature campaign. Sig campaigns greatly reduce the quality of this forum with people who only post for the Bitcoins, even if it is not much. It leaves us skilled computer users dealing with a ton of spam. What I found is there is a lot of programming and many other gigs available on this forum and those living in third-world nations should get more skilled
That is a case of faulty generalization right there. I'm not living in a third-world country nor am I abusing the campaign (at least that is what I think and so does the manager). My posting habits have not changed since I've joined/changed campaigns. If anything, the amount of posts that I make is lower. While I do agree that most people spam, we can never say that it is the case with everyone. However, I still support disabling signature campaigns/imposing restrictions/other.

There is a script which allows you to disable signatures in this forum. You wont have any issues after enabling it. But I personally don't mind the signatures, they're not putting a gun against my head.. Smiley
That does nothing to solve spam.
Why would I say a staff member would spam the forum? I did not mean to generalize. I myself was a first-world sig campaign poster (Canada).
I know for staff is different beacuse you have to read what people write, but I don't  Wink
Technically we don't either; we don't have to do almost anything. However, I think the best way to remove this problem is by tackling its root (they don't have to be necessarily removed, guidelines/restrictions could be made).
I have just removed my signature campaign. All I have to say is that most people posting in signature campaigns are either people living in third-world countries or people who find way to abuse the signature campaign. Sig campaigns greatly reduce the quality of this forum with people who only post for the Bitcoins, even if it is not much. It leaves us skilled computer users dealing with a ton of spam. What I found is there is a lot of programming and many other gigs available on this forum and those living in third-world nations should get more skilled

So you are saying that people in third worlds don't have a right to benefit from Bitcoin? I remember reading some stories about how some guys that were unfortunate to be born in some of these shitholes were making more money thought signature campaigns than they did working a real job (where they are exploited for peanuts). Isn't this beautiful? Bitcoin is liberating people, this should be celebrated in any case.

Anyway, I live in a first world country, and unemployment is only getting worse. Getting some extra bucks a week is greatly appreciated. Removing sig campaigns would be removing an actual use case of Bitcoin that directly benefits real people (both the people getting paid and the people improving traffic into their websites by promoting it through them, not to mention the website itself benefits as traffic is way higher and it ranks better).
I would also stop buying stuff with Bitcoin because I only buy stuff If I get paid with it, buying Bitcoin then buying something with it makes no sense.

If you want to be elitist, maybe you could disable signatures in a specific new subforum called "technical talk" or something, where it's impossible to get paid if you post there, filtering any possible spam. Other than that, doing this with the entire forum is a mistake.
If someone spams, mods see it and ban them already, so this is really a non issue. If the colorful banners offend your eyes, it's also a non issue since disabling ads will be possible soon for Hero+. I personally tried a script when I wasn't in a sig campaign to disable all signatures and the forum looked extremely sameish. My eyes have become used at posts being separated by banners at this point.
I'm not say it's a bad thing at all people in Africa can afford to cook breakfast by posting on this forum. There are many places in Africa where people do feed themselves off this forum. All I am saying is there needs to be less spam.

Signatures? How about learning a skill... I don't care either way. Everybody has to make a living somehow.
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