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[clgrissom3]

Block!! 15.094 w/ fees by torontobitcoinmanager !!! The dry spell has ended! Now lets make it Monsoon!!

I just realized that this is the 1st Kano block for torontobitcoinman

Welcome to the Acclaim Board!

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[philipma1957]

Yes Mr sky will get his BTC that had no address - one day.

However, as I said, there's issues with me doing manual calculations to work out any account that has outstanding BTC, dust or no dust.
The point of the accounting code is to ensure it is correct.

I have in the past manually paid people who only had one thing - unpaid amounts.
However, even in that case, I have realised there's a possible issue there also due to the fact that you can mine to an address without an account, the same address that can be attached to an account.
As I said, the accounting code will work out the correct numbers off the blockchain transactions.
Until then, I'm not doing manual payouts for dust or people who didn't have a payout address.

The majority of that ~16 BTC is a few people who didn't put in a payout address, and they haven't asked for their BTC balance.
I guess they'll get a surprise when I finally clear the books.

Thank you for saying this.

[overcon]

I guess they'll get a surprise when I finally clear the books.

It's time to pay the piper Kano!

458257   21/Mar 12:11   14.32903560   2.387T   109hr 2m 36s   26.11PHs   0.00%   550.134k   6.02GHs   0.00000330

I want my dust Mr.!

[kano]

I guess they'll get a surprise when I finally clear the books.

It's time to pay the piper Kano!

458257   21/Mar 12:11   14.32903560   2.387T   109hr 2m 36s   26.11PHs   0.00%   550.134k   6.02GHs   0.00000330

I want my dust Mr.!

You know
I remember the day, long long ago, when you could go to the local store and buy candy for 1c
They had a collection of different boxes of candy and most of them were 1c each or even 2 for 1c
You've got 1.5 candy drops there
Oh well, that is no more.

[tbonetony]

WTF is greyworld saying in his sig about kanopool stealing $68,000???  You guys see this crap??

Alright, let me try to role play this with my own data for a flash review:

[Drama]
KANO damn you worthless thief:
over my 13 months of service at your pool, you have stolen 0.0007751 btc from me
AND you refused to pay me
AND you refused to pay others
AND you denied your damned pool fee being 100%
AND you ignored my neat SQL fix for your mismanaged accounting code
AND you deleted my posts
AND you cost me a whole week of electrical fee with 0% return
AND Nyerk!
AND NYerk!!
AND NYErk!!!
AND NYERk!!!!
AND NYERK!!!!!

OH dear prospective miners, I now have saved your ass of multi-million-satoshi's from falling for Kano's scam, please donate to me:
1NotShadyWorld@#%%$&@$%^%$&#

[/Drama]

This is why i love internet. Any one can interpret any other's expression to the totally opposite direction at will, so easily.

[wmabern]

It appears we are having a database problem. Time for BLOCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!   

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Personally I've never ran at dust levels - not even close ever so no dog in this fight but on the pools Home page it *does state*

Your worker name can be whatever you choose and will be created when your miner connects to the pool.
Registered username or Bitcoin address, followed by a dot '.' or an underscore '_', followed by a worker name.
If you supply an invalid Bitcoin address, you will be unable to authenticate and mine on the pool.

I would think that since ya can't mine if using just an (invalid) address that same lock-out should happen if you register but do not provide the wallet address. No?

As for being able to mine at all beneath the Dust threshold, possibly pool-side monitor what current payout threshold based on pool THs vs any single users percentage of that. If a user goes below threshold at least auto-send them a canned email about it?

[kano]

KanoDB restarted - an unusual one there, not a core dump, but a full on crash (in glibc) then a restart.
Failure occurred at: 2017-08-14 23:01:56 UTC
Restart completed at: 2017-08-14 23:12:43 UTC

Mining was unaffected.

[tbonetony]

As for being able to mine at all beneath the Dust threshold, possibly pool-side monitor what current payout threshold based on pool THs vs any single users percentage of that. If a user goes below threshold at least auto-send them a canned email about it?

Assuming a 0-transaction fee block, after 0.9% fee: 12.5 x 0.991 = 12.3875btc
0.0001 / 12.3875 = 0.0008073% of pool rate.
At today's 87PH pool rate, this threshold is about 0.7TH/s, discounting the ramping period.

I see that the complexity centered around the indeterministic timing of block found. In practice, it doesn't matter how much hash rate one has, there still exists the possibility of mining dusts during ramping period.

[philipma1957]

As for being able to mine at all beneath the Dust threshold, possibly pool-side monitor what current payout threshold based on pool THs vs any single users percentage of that. If a user goes below threshold at least auto-send them a canned email about it?

Assuming a 0-transaction fee block, after 0.9% fee: 12.5 x 0.991 = 12.3875btc
0.0001 / 12.3875 = 0.0008073% of pool rate.
At today's 87PH pool rate, this threshold is about 0.7TH/s, discounting the ramping period.

I see that the complexity centered around the indeterministic timing of block found. In practice, it doesn't matter how much hash rate one has, there still exists the possibility of mining dusts during ramping period.

or an extended down time.  in my case most of my dust was ramp up or ramp down times.  

I suppose I have to say I did get a bit of dust due to my misconception that he was totaling and would pay at the 0.0001 sum
see here:

338765   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00236082   
338713   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00113201   
335434   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00001478   *
335425   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00001470   *
335319   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00002175   *
335280   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00002575   *
335230   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00003078   *
335225   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00003134   *
335151   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00004328   *
334947   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00001772   *
334106   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00003302   *
333024   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00000015   *
332947   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00000015   *
332679   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00002294   *
331660   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00991435   
331574   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.01482906   



this was ramp up  dust

349460   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.03192053   
348276   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00008468   *
348131   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00010867


as was this

416363   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00427173   
416327   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00123033   
416027   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00001262   *
415964   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00001249   *
415953   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00257713   
415950   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr       0.00265931   


   

[Minor Miner]

Since it seems everyone is on a tangent that I do not think will be resolved while waiting for blocks, maybe someone could answer what is likely a simple question that I cannot figure out.

at bitcoinwisdom, when you look at the difficulty page, it shows the average of the last 504 blocks.    If the 1 block average for the last 504 blocks is 10.4 minutes, how can the 6 block average for the last 504 blocks be 60 minutes?

I see this all the time there.

[philipma1957]

Since it seems everyone is on a tangent that I do not think will be resolved while waiting for blocks, maybe someone could answer what is likely a simple question that I cannot figure out.

at bitcoinwisdom, when you look at the difficulty page, it shows the average of the last 504 blocks.    If the 1 block average for the last 504 blocks is 10.4 minutes, how can the 6 block average for the last 504 blocks be 60 minutes?

I see this all the time there.

and they have the price of BTC at 2500 or 2600

basically  they have a lot of errors

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

[overcon]

You know
I remember the day, long long ago, when you could go to the local store and buy candy for 1c
They had a collection of different boxes of candy and most of them were 1c each or even 2 for 1c
You've got 1.5 candy drops there
Oh well, that is no more.

I remember when they were 15 cent snickers and Mars Bars and it seemed that everything jumped overnight to a buck fifty.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

...
at bitcoinwisdom, when you look at the difficulty page, it shows the average of the last 504 blocks.    If the 1 block average for the last 504 blocks is 10.4 minutes, how can the 6 block average for the last 504 blocks be 60 minutes?

I see this all the time there.

Possibly it is the averaged spike in block times? We have seen that go over an hour many many times along with blocks popping within seconds.

[torontobitcoinmanager]

my first block in Kano
took 10 days.

torontobitcoinman…7R4

15btc reward

[rossie]

my first block in Kano
took 10 days.

torontobitcoinman…7R4

15btc reward

Yepp, but you have almost 1PH power...  
its took me lil more time with my 15TH

what kind of staff do you mine?

but anyway Congratulations! 

[xuy]

By looking at Pool's Realtime Hashrate on BTC.com, the average of luck for the past 3 days is less than 88% and only 2 pools' luck is over 100%.
Not sure whether it's caused by the fork.

...
at bitcoinwisdom, when you look at the difficulty page, it shows the average of the last 504 blocks.    If the 1 block average for the last 504 blocks is 10.4 minutes, how can the 6 block average for the last 504 blocks be 60 minutes?

I see this all the time there.

Possibly it is the averaged spike in block times? We have seen that go over an hour many many times along with blocks popping within seconds.

[Logan4el]

There was a lot of hype about this pool. I have switched from slush and started mining. But now I understand that there is no payout treshold. So if I get a lot of small payments from the pool to my wallet later when I wish to exchange BTC to USD I will pay higher transaction fee?
Or this is wrong?

[overcon]

There was a lot of hype about this pool. I have switched from slush and started mining. But now I understand that there is no payout treshold. So if I get a lot of small payments from the pool to my wallet later when I wish to exchange BTC to USD I will pay higher transaction fee?
Or this is wrong?

You can always wait till those small ones become a large one then send it at the lowest fee and use an accelerator to force it through if it never gets picked up.

[clgrissom3]

There was a lot of hype about this pool. I have switched from slush and started mining. But now I understand that there is no payout treshold. So if I get a lot of small payments from the pool to my wallet later when I wish to exchange BTC to USD I will pay transaction fee about 10% from the BTC amount?

The fees that you are charged to exchange BTC to USD depends on the Exchange you use for the transaction.  If they charge 10%, it will be 10% no matter where your BTC comes from.  My exchange charges 1.49% to sell BCT directly to my bank account.

Now, I have a feeling that you are really asking about transaction fees to consolidate all of your payouts to another wallet.  Here is an example; I accumulate payouts from Kano into a Blockchain.info wallet and send it all to my KeepKey hardware wallet once it gets over 1 BTC.  So, neither the consolidation or exchange is anywhere near 10% in my case.

June   72 payments   1.5BTC   0.0019805 Fees   0.13%
July   59 Payments   1.5BTC   0.0024060 Fees   0.16%