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[rifleman74]

I have a question, since the last three blocks haven't been paid out yet and span close to 5 hours between the 1st and 3rd block.  Blocks 491085, 491091, and 491121.  The Blockchain says, "Unable to decode Blockchain address."  What does that mean?
https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000061eb3acf78861b327621bc15fe5f39dfbbae7d36fc7b77

Does it just mean, wait?    I am not trying to be impatient, I just wonder how things work.  Does the payout have to be manually sent, so it's just a matter of waiting for a human to split up and send out the payouts, or is it just that the blockchain gets clogged up with transactions and can take a while? 

Thanks!

I was just going to post something on that as well, the payment will come...trust in kano!

[philipma1957]

I have a question, since the last three blocks haven't been paid out yet and span close to 5 hours between the 1st and 3rd block.  Blocks 491085, 491091, and 491121.  The Blockchain says, "Unable to decode Blockchain address."  What does that mean?
https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000061eb3acf78861b327621bc15fe5f39dfbbae7d36fc7b77

Does it just mean, wait?    I am not trying to be impatient, I just wonder how things work.  Does the payout have to be manually sent, so it's just a matter of waiting for a human to split up and send out the payouts, or is it just that the blockchain gets clogged up with transactions and can take a while? 

Thanks!

blockchain confirms the blocks  after 101 confirms  they are ready to send

all 3 blocks are ready to send   so   when the pool hits the next block they will be sent

[DarkStar_]

I have a question, since the last three blocks haven't been paid out yet and span close to 5 hours between the 1st and 3rd block.  Blocks 491085, 491091, and 491121.  The Blockchain says, "Unable to decode Blockchain address."  What does that mean?
https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000000061eb3acf78861b327621bc15fe5f39dfbbae7d36fc7b77

Does it just mean, wait?    I am not trying to be impatient, I just wonder how things work.  Does the payout have to be manually sent, so it's just a matter of waiting for a human to split up and send out the payouts, or is it just that the blockchain gets clogged up with transactions and can take a while? 

Thanks!

The "Unable to decode Blockchain address." on Blockchain.info (blockchain.info is NOT the blockchain, it is a service) simply means that it isn't a valid address. It shows 0 BTC being sent to that, and what it's used for is storing data.

The payments are sent from what I see, just unconfirmed as a low fee is used. They should be prioritized by KanoPool and get a confirmation in the next block that KanoPool mines, or if another miner decides to mine it.

[aessedai]

blockchain confirms the blocks  after 101 confirms  they are ready to send

all 3 blocks are ready to send   so   when the pool hits the next block they will be sent

Another block has to be hit before previous matured blocks pay out?  I had never noticed that before.

[mdude77]

blockchain confirms the blocks  after 101 confirms  they are ready to send

all 3 blocks are ready to send   so   when the pool hits the next block they will be sent

Another block has to be hit before previous matured blocks pay out?  I had never noticed that before.

I believe the transactions are sitting out there in bitcoin network waiting for a miner to confirm them.  They probably have low transaction fees, if any.

This way, since the pool builds the blocks with the transactions it wants the miner to mine, if the pool "finds" a block, the payout transactions are included.

It's a very clever method, if I understand it correctly.

M

[kano]

blockchain confirms the blocks  after 101 confirms  they are ready to send

all 3 blocks are ready to send   so   when the pool hits the next block they will be sent

Another block has to be hit before previous matured blocks pay out?  I had never noticed that before.

Firstly, it's described on the Help->Payouts page
Anyway, as it says, I send out the transaction about 1 minute after the block matures.

Bitcoin transactions have 2 clearly different states:
1) Exists on the network
2) Confirmed 1 or more times

Until a transaction is included in a block, it is in state 1) - in the mempool.

You will see those transactions in your client, if they are relayed to you and your client shows unconfirmed transactions.

Once it's included into a block, it gets it's first confirm.

I (usually) send out the transactions recently with a 42,000 satoshi fee.
I, of course, also ensure the transaction is in our pool work.

The payout transaction gets it's first confirm when either we find a block, or some other pool includes it in their block.
Whichever happens first.

[Philopolymath]

Payout is WAY WAY WAY over due..there have been tons of blocks found after last maturation..

Pool seems overloaded since latest influx of 90k Th .........luck has been ridiculously bad..

Connectivity problems...
Orphans? where is list of orphans?

[mdude77]

Payout is WAY WAY WAY over due..there have been tons of blocks found after last maturation..

Pool seems overloaded since latest influx of 90k Th .........luck has been ridiculously bad..

Connectivity problems...
Orphans? where is list of orphans?

Actually, this is working properly.  The payouts are out there, just not yet confirmed. 

You haven't been here long enough to know this.  Payouts take a little longer than other pools..

M

[mdude77]

Kano, the website is acting funny.  The API isn't responding, and the URL comes up, but all values are zero or otherwise empty.

M

EDIT: And now it's back!

[beltsniffer]

Payout is WAY WAY WAY over due..there have been tons of blocks found after last maturation..

Pool seems overloaded since latest influx of 90k Th .........luck has been ridiculously bad..

Connectivity problems...
Orphans? where is list of orphans?

If we had an orphan you would know it. Kano makes it very transparent on the pool website.
Our payouts are in the mempool. Just unconfirmed due to the backlog of over 20K transactions on the network.

Link to a page listing orphans https://blockchain.info/orphaned-blocks

[mdude77]

Payout is WAY WAY WAY over due..there have been tons of blocks found after last maturation..

Pool seems overloaded since latest influx of 90k Th .........luck has been ridiculously bad..

Connectivity problems...
Orphans? where is list of orphans?

Here is one:

https://blockchain.info/tx/75ce101ab43d0ffbaa957b74bef8932348d72a9d3e56ecb63ef5f789385616e2

M

[mdude77]

Payout is WAY WAY WAY over due..there have been tons of blocks found after last maturation..

Pool seems overloaded since latest influx of 90k Th .........luck has been ridiculously bad..

Connectivity problems...
Orphans? where is list of orphans?

If we had an orphan you would know it. Kano makes it very transparent on the pool website.
Our payouts are in the mempool. Just unconfirmed due to the backlog of over 20K transactions on the network.

Link to a page listing orphans https://blockchain.info/orphaned-blocks

This backlog is actually a good thing for us!  It means people will start paying higher transaction fees to get their payments through.  Means higher value blocks for us!

M

[kano]

Payout is WAY WAY WAY over due..there have been tons of blocks found after last maturation..

Pool seems overloaded since latest influx of 90k Th .........luck has been ridiculously bad..

Connectivity problems...
Orphans? where is list of orphans?

Did you read the post directly above yours?

[kano]

Kano, the website is acting funny.  The API isn't responding, and the URL comes up, but all values are zero or otherwise empty.

M

EDIT: And now it's back!

Yeah it gets a timeout on the web site under certain circumstances.
Once the connection between the main node and the web site resets it's all ok again.

Looks like I need to restart KanoDB for this, it's occurred a few times today (in the last hour)

There will be a KanoDB restart in about 5 minutes.
No miners will be affected at all.
Web/API page will have lotsa ? for about 10 minutes.

The pool restart the other day uses up a hunk of extra memory in KanoDB and that looks like it's swapping out too much data needed for the web site and causing the timeouts.
This restart will clear that up.
Sorry for the short notice but since the web site is returning a lot of timeouts this is necessary.

Restart completed as planned.
Was from 4:45:01 to 4:55:15 all good.

[NomadGroup]

How long will this 180+PH hold out?  Some of it is Rented.

That’s what I would like to know, Kano?

[smutboy420]

Another block has to be hit before previous matured blocks pay out?  I had never noticed that before.

Yes all them last blocks have all got there needed 100_ confirmations and now we need to hit the next block before they will show up in your wallet that they were sent to.   


Tho sometimes we get lucky and someone else will include our transactions in a block before we hit next block after maturity. . In them cases the payouts end up showing up and being spendable sooner. 



Right now there are 3 blocks that are all matured and on deck to show up as soon as we hit the next block which will process the transitions..

[Newko]

So, as usual, been too busy to read the board but now I'm all caught up. Glad we finally cracked that 875% block! When we got those last payouts I had noticed my rewards per block had gone down quite a bit and with BTC price so high I was thinking wtf? Then I saw that the pool hash rate was at 180ph! Holy cow! That's double what it was! Very cool 

My profit per black ck will be lower, but my overall profits will remain about the same, and variance should be a bit lower.

To all those who are new to this pool, welcome! Mine on!

[mdude77]

So, as usual, been too busy to read the board but now I'm all caught up. Glad we finally cracked that 875% block! When we got those last payouts I had noticed my rewards per block had gone down quite a bit and with BTC price so high I was thinking wtf? Then I saw that the pool hash rate was at 180ph! Holy cow! That's double what it was! Very cool 

My profit per black ck will be lower, but my overall profits will remain about the same, and variance should be a bit lower.

To all those who are new to this pool, welcome! Mine on!

Yes, variance should be lower.  That said, we're at another day+ block.

M

[rifleman74]

So, as usual, been too busy to read the board but now I'm all caught up. Glad we finally cracked that 875% block! When we got those last payouts I had noticed my rewards per block had gone down quite a bit and with BTC price so high I was thinking wtf? Then I saw that the pool hash rate was at 180ph! Holy cow! That's double what it was! Very cool 

My profit per black ck will be lower, but my overall profits will remain about the same, and variance should be a bit lower.

To all those who are new to this pool, welcome! Mine on!

Yes, variance should be lower.  That said, we're at another day+ block.

M

Wait until another 60+ hour block before being worried.  These blocks happen often.

[mdude77]

So, as usual, been too busy to read the board but now I'm all caught up. Glad we finally cracked that 875% block! When we got those last payouts I had noticed my rewards per block had gone down quite a bit and with BTC price so high I was thinking wtf? Then I saw that the pool hash rate was at 180ph! Holy cow! That's double what it was! Very cool 

My profit per black ck will be lower, but my overall profits will remain about the same, and variance should be a bit lower.

To all those who are new to this pool, welcome! Mine on!

Yes, variance should be lower.  That said, we're at another day+ block.

M

Wait until another 60+ hour block before being worried.  These blocks happen often.

The should happen half as often now!!

M