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Author Topic: High Efficiency FPGA & ASIC Bitcoin Mining Devices https://BTCFPGA.com  (Read 218400 times)
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September 04, 2012, 08:49:37 AM
Last edit: September 04, 2012, 09:08:40 AM by Pipesnake
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While I think it is really shady to be taking pre-orders this early and tie up peoples money (at 1% a week from the regular lenders, that's an extra bit of change) for all that time with no release date...  but I bet a lot of people will order anyway if you just provide this basic proof requested..
Really?

That's infinitely amusing considering the mining community has made the BFL folks fiat (maybe even btc) millionaires with impunity.  How dare anyone try to compete with the BFL overlords.

Baaaa.


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September 04, 2012, 09:02:01 AM
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Congratulations. Awesome news. Well done on the price point.  Cheesy

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September 04, 2012, 09:05:30 AM
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Congratulations. Awesome news. Well done on the price point.  Cheesy

Price point yes, don't forget the 1 year warranty.

Depending on the CC you use when paying. MC/VISA increases the manufacturers warranty by 1 year.
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September 04, 2012, 03:54:15 PM
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Let me just say that I didn't plan to purchase any ASIC and considered getting out of mining (at least putting all my gear on sale minus my 2 Cainsmore1 until they were not profitable anymore). That is until BTCFPGA had something to offer: *** being the single player was just not healthy in my opinion.

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September 04, 2012, 04:25:06 PM
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To answer some questions...


No these are not FPGA "hard Copy" chips

These would be considered Cell Based ASIC

I am not going into specific details about certain aspects of the prototype asics / mining unit because some of this may change from prototype to production

Please note I do not claim to be the technical mind behind all of this, this protoype has been achieved through leases, and contractors

the SHA256 hashing core was (not designed by me) it was leased through a overseas design firm

the prototype asics themselves were made in a multi project wafer run program through a university

we are still shopping around for a long term manufacturer of these asics

the mining units will be assembled at the same place that assembles the modminer quad.


I am still working on getting caught up with emails, if you send me an email you should receive a reply some time today

I will answer PM's as well but it's almost always better to email me.

thanks!


*** we are only guaranteeing a minimal performance of 27Gh/s all other hardware details are subject to change possibly without notice
(we are still prototyping after all)
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September 04, 2012, 05:05:04 PM
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While this is great news, I find it almost amusing that just like with FPGA, no-one can still match BFL on price/performance ratio Smiley
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September 04, 2012, 05:10:59 PM
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While this is great news, I find it almost amusing that just like with FPGA, no-one can still match BFL on price/performance ratio Smiley

While this is slower, it's also cheaper. A comparison in GHs/USD is about a 20% difference, which is less than half what difference between the Single vs MMQ was.

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September 04, 2012, 05:11:31 PM
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no-one can still match BFL on price/performance ratio Smiley
How do you know?

Being off by a factor of four, or more, is not unprecedented in statements from BFL.
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September 04, 2012, 05:54:23 PM
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no-one can still match BFL on price/performance ratio Smiley
How do you know?

Being off by a factor of four, or more, is not unprecedented in statements from BFL.

Also, as Tom said, 27GH/s was the minimum. Who knows, maybe software will bump that number up a decent amount. Only time will tell.

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September 04, 2012, 05:55:51 PM
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Hm... i dont know cablepair so i cant say a word about how trustworthy he is but... when he really has a working prototype a video showing proof how the overall hashrate of a pool is rising high after letting the prototype work would highjump his sales. And, as far as i know, there would be no possibility to copy something even when the chip would be shown in the video isnt it?

So i only see that someone who wants to sell something has the possibility, without risking something, to raise the number of sold units very much... but dont want to do it.

Is there some risk im not aware of? Otherwise that sounds too strange to me.

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September 04, 2012, 06:00:25 PM
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Looking at the qty per week he intends to build, I'm pretty sure he'll be getting more than enough orders to fill his queue. Just from his existing and happy customer base.

Little risk perhaps. But also little gain for the pain/hassle of doing it.

Anything he puts together and shows will instantly be inundated with statements about how easily it could have been faked. Why bother?
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September 04, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
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I think it would be hard to fake. I mean when you would use a videorecorder and record the asic together with a laptopscreen or similar then you could open a pool-website there and see the hashrate. Then enable the asic and watch the pool hashrate rising. I think it would be hard to fake this.
Ok, when he really has so much orders that he has problems to deliver maybe. But he didnt want it from the start. And then there shouldnt be so much orders. So i still dont understand this. Its somewhat unlogic to me.

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September 04, 2012, 08:18:20 PM
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I think a video would be very boring. I don't have to patience to watch one.

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I think a video would be very boring. I don't have to patience to watch one.

Boring? Patience? You know what we wrote about? Sounds like you didnt get the point of such video.

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September 04, 2012, 09:22:47 PM
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btcfpga.com > butterflylabs

Will be preodering from btcfpga.com today.
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September 04, 2012, 09:52:31 PM
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btcfpga.com > butterflylabs

Will be preodering from btcfpga.com today.

October shipment > November/December shipment Smiley
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September 04, 2012, 09:55:54 PM
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btcfpga.com > butterflylabs

Will be preodering from btcfpga.com today.

October shipment > November/December shipment Smiley

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September 04, 2012, 10:35:12 PM
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btcfpga.com > butterflylabs

Will be preodering from btcfpga.com today.

October shipment > November/December shipment Smiley

Place an order with BFL right now. Good luck getting it before March Cheesy

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September 04, 2012, 11:03:29 PM
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btcfpga.com > butterflylabs

Will be preodering from btcfpga.com today.

October shipment > November/December shipment Smiley

Place an order with BFL right now. Good luck getting it before March Cheesy

Exactly. If you place an order today for both a bASIC and a BFL ASIC, chances are you'll get the bASIC first.

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Ordered 2. Thanks!

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