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October 01, 2012, 08:38:53 PM
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yes he is right, as far as I know - no current FPGA Bitcoin mining device is capable of mining scrypt alt-coins

Maybe that's the project - making a new board for your modules to plug into... that allow them to scrypt.

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Then you could at least offer that as an 'alt-grade' for close to cost.


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October 01, 2012, 08:51:57 PM
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Man that entry period was short.   Huh

Cutoff in a couple hours?!?

Not all of us can be at the computer 24/7.

I want in!!
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October 01, 2012, 08:53:36 PM
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If I order 3 54G/s bAsic now. Will I receive them in 2012 for sure?

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October 01, 2012, 08:56:53 PM
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yes he is right, as far as I know - no current FPGA Bitcoin mining device is capable of mining scrypt alt-coins

Maybe that's the project - making a new board for your modules to plug into... that allow them to scrypt.

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Then you could at least offer that as an 'alt-grade' for close to cost.



It depends whether it's really worth it or not...  NEON scrypt mining on ARM processors was no more power efficiency than GPU mining.  GPUs have fast SPU clock rates and extremely fast memory, you may build an FPGA with ~300 integer units (eg spartan 6) hashing at 150MHz with DDR2 RAM only to discover that kh/s/w is not any higher than on GPUs.

At best with ASICs of scrypt I would suspect you would get an order of magnitude in speedup, probably less.  FPGAs then would be even worse, and aside from that refining BTC ASICs in the future will probably be more profitable anyway.

Scrypt hashing circuits are about the same size as SHA256 hashing circuits in terms of gate size.  I would suspect that if you could somehow make an ASIC comparable to that of the SHA256 ones with GDDR5 you would be able to hash scrypt significantly faster than and with less power than on GPUs, but the problem is that GDDR5 is expensive and so is the bus/interconnect.  Additionally the amount of memory required per the amount of scrypt cores scales linearly as per the current algorithm, so if you make a chip with 20,000 scrypt circuits you will need to initialize 6-20GB of GDDR5 memory, which is expensive.  Using slower memory and slower cores, as is possible right now with ASICs, will probably yield poor performance (GPU memory and GPU core speeds are an order of magnitude faster than DDR2 memory and typical ASIC core speeds).

In short scrypt ASIC producers may end up competing with GPU producers, which would be a losing battle for the ASIC producers.

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October 01, 2012, 09:32:01 PM
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Man that entry period was short.   Huh

Cutoff in a couple hours?!?

Not all of us can be at the computer 24/7.

I want in!!

he's doing one each week it seems over the next 3 weeks if I read correctly.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114454.msg1236393#msg1236393

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October 01, 2012, 09:32:43 PM
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Thanks guys,

May you both come in over spec, under budget and within 10% of your labor forecast.
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October 01, 2012, 09:37:13 PM
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1) Trade in your ModMiner Quad for a $300 discount on a bASIC unit.
2) Resell your ModMiner Quad to someone for $200 cash
3) Have BTCFPGA spend resources to have developers continue to develop new firmware for the device to make it do other things like crack password files or other specific computational use


I don't think you should get into #3, that would place you in a bad spot legally.

A discount of $300 is acceptable, IMO. However I would like to put myself to purchase others' MMQ's at a comparable price, since I can still run them after the ASICs come out due to cheap(ish) electricity.





When I mean cracking password files, I dont mean for illegal purposes. People crack password files for security testing and even for fun / hobby
(check out http://hashcat.net/oclhashcat-plus/)

Thank you for your input!

There is a serious need for this when law enforcement chooses to prosecute.
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October 01, 2012, 09:53:41 PM
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LOL

how big's your dictionary file? Tongue
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October 01, 2012, 09:55:26 PM
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Just bought a 27 to go with my 54. Will be really interesting to see what happens to bitcoin. X fingers it is in my favour Wink.

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October 01, 2012, 09:58:21 PM
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i ordered two 54gh devices - one of them weeks ago Smiley . If power specs will be announced its time to talk about serious business  Cool

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October 01, 2012, 10:07:59 PM
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Any luck and we will have power specs verified and published in a few weeks by my software development team
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October 01, 2012, 10:11:57 PM
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hi cablepair,

i sent you a PM regarding if i order a 2nd unit, can i combine it with my 1st order to save on shipping, or will i have to place a whole new order?
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October 01, 2012, 10:47:42 PM
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Placed my order a couple days ago for the 54gh. Hopefully all goes well and the units ship out by nov/dec.
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October 02, 2012, 12:17:02 AM
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Also, do you realize how much faster you would get your product from Tom?
You would get it faster? We dont know about that yet....
The ASIC world aint established fully. We dont know when BFL, BTCFPGA, or any other company is REALLY shipping.
Or are you implying once regular production begins, the preorders will be filled much faster than BFL would be...meaning normal orders would be shipped much sooner than BFL's normal orders?
That would for sure be interesting.

Ok, I will not say for sure. But if I was to make an educated guess about ordering from either company today I would still lean the same direction.
I also ordered from BFL within an hour or so of the announcement and I'm beginning to think that I won't receive that order before my bASIC order. Just sayin'

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October 02, 2012, 12:44:08 AM
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Tom,

Can I ask a couple of simple questions.

1. The 27g is one chip? The 54 is 2 chips? On the same board.
2. If this is the case, what is the max number of chips you could put on a board, and what would be power drain? Has possible designers for 4, 8 or 16 chips on one board been considered?

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October 02, 2012, 12:48:04 AM
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I am not ready to release this information .... just yet but very soon.


We actually have a new web site being designed right now and with it's launch we are going to launch some more info, specs, pictures etc

for now let me just say there are more chips than just 1 and 2

But don't worry this will all be public information soon.
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October 02, 2012, 01:02:31 AM
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Also, do you realize how much faster you would get your product from Tom?
You would get it faster? We dont know about that yet....
The ASIC world aint established fully. We dont know when BFL, BTCFPGA, or any other company is REALLY shipping.
Or are you implying once regular production begins, the preorders will be filled much faster than BFL would be...meaning normal orders would be shipped much sooner than BFL's normal orders?
That would for sure be interesting.

Ok, I will not say for sure. But if I was to make an educated guess about ordering from either company today I would still lean the same direction.
I also ordered from BFL within an hour or so of the announcement and I'm beginning to think that I won't receive that order before my bASIC order. Just sayin'
with the length of BFL's que...
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October 02, 2012, 01:39:40 AM
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Tell me about it Graet. I am so happy I did not fully commit to the BFL hype. I got something small so I would know for sure when to start expecting drastic changes in difficulty.

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October 02, 2012, 02:02:43 AM
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A lot of people are emailing me because on my website it says "Pending" in the status of your paid for item, and this is causing some confusion.

Pending meant that your item was paid for but has not shipped yet.

At any rate to halt any confusion caused by this I have changed the status of pending orders to "Confirmed"

I hope this clears up any confusion.

Also - I tried to answer as many emails and Pm's as I could today - I have to put my kids to bed, grab a beer and then pass the F*** out. (damn its been a long day and im tired)

I will be back at all of this tomorrow and thank all of you so much for your support, if you have not received an email response from me please continue to be patient (thank you) I should get to the remaining emails in the morning.

Also guys always feel free to call me at (315) 514-0269 I am usually available during normal business hours, and if I dont answer on the first try best thing to do would be to wait an hour or so and try again. I always answer the phone when I am available.


(wife just stuck her head in the office "TOM ITS 10 O'CLOCK!)

lol I guess that's my queue!

I am off for the day - also good luck to everyone that entered to win a ModMiner Quad!


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October 02, 2012, 05:46:56 AM
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well.

order#853.

now we'll see when the stuff's gonna actually arrive.

Tom, is this Order #853 number just the number of ASIC orders? Or did the bASIC orders not start counting at 1?

I ask because it was almost a month ago, but you posted this here:

bASIC units will be assembled at the same plant that the ModMiner Quad's are, they will be produced in batches of 30-50 every 5-10 days and shipped out on first come first served basis

Lets give you the benefit of the doubt and say you ship Dec 1st, and ship 25 orders/week. The time to fulfill those 850 orders would be 34 weeks. Now obv that's unacceptable. Can you clarify?

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