Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City)

[noms]

CryptoKnight Liquidation Auction


[LOT1]  2-C-C1 - 2 Story Town Palace
Lot Area: 300 sqm
Buildings Total (Density): 236 sqm (0.787 )

[LOT2] 3-E-F18 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

[LOT3] 3-S-G2 - Holiday Hut
Lot Area: 400 sqm
Buildings Total (Density): 9 sqm (0.023 )

[LOT4] 3-S-G3 - Holiday Hut
Lot Area: 400 sqm
Buildings Total (Density): 9 sqm (0.023 )

[LOT5] 4-SE-N3 - Lot
Lot Area: 200 sqm

[LOT6] 4-SE-N5 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

[LOT7] 5-E-X7 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

[LOT8] 5-E-X8 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

[LOT9] CR1602E   x22    1   CR-series 5 CKG gold coin from 1602   Gold, 5 CKG
[LOT10] CS1617E   x5    1   CS-series 5 CKS silver coin from 1617   Silver, 5 CKG
[LOT11] CT1566   x1   1   Royal CryptoArmy Centenary bronze medallion      
[LOT12] S-PGC   x100   0   Palazzo Gaming Corp      
[LOT13] S-VE1   x2   0   Well-tended vegetable garden      
[LOT14] TRC4-13   x1   8   Carriage, 4-horse model   Noble Blue   
[LOT15] TS162   x21   1   Trade silver coin from the 162x      Silver, 12 CKG
[LOT16] WIA1   x3   2   Ancient window 1x1 m   Transparent
[LOT17] WIAL   x12   2   Large Pane Ancient Window   Bronze/Copper
[LOT18] WIAS   x30   2   Standard Pane Ancient Window   Bronze/Copper
[LOT19] WIASS   x30   2   Small Pane Ancient Window   Bronze/Copper
[LOT20] WIASSS   x30   2   Tiny Pane Ancient Window   Bronze/Copper

If you want to bid on the properties, please do it in this thread - there are restrictions in place in Ultima that prevent the use of bids and asks on properties right now.

To get things started, I bid 10 mil each on the following:
[LOT5]
[LOT6]

and 15 mil on each of the additional properties:
[LOT1]
[LOT2]
[LOT3]
[LOT4]
[LOT7]
[LOT8]

[djjacket]

CryptoKnight Liquidation Auction


[LOT1]  2-C-C1 - 2 Story Town Palace
Lot Area: 300 sqm
Buildings Total (Density): 236 sqm (0.787 )

[LOT2] 3-E-F18 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

[LOT3] 3-S-G2 - Holiday Hut
Lot Area: 400 sqm
Buildings Total (Density): 9 sqm (0.023 )

[LOT4] 3-S-G3 - Holiday Hut
Lot Area: 400 sqm
Buildings Total (Density): 9 sqm (0.023 )

[LOT5] 4-SE-N3 - Lot
Lot Area: 200 sqm

[LOT6] 4-SE-N5 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

[LOT7] 5-E-X7 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

[LOT8] 5-E-X8 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

My Bids
LOT1 - 20mil
LOT3 - 20mil
LOT4 - 20mil

[HYPERfuture]

This project has been really fun to watch evolve.

When I have time, one day I will definitely open an account and try and own some land in Crypto Kingdom

If you want land, the time to buy it is just NOW! Everyone is tired and overextended and you can buy a chaperly (15,000 sqm) for 1,000 XMR, and smaller lots as well, really affordable prices. We made the decision to limit the size of CryptoTown to 225 chapelries (of which only part is buildable land), so in some time, all will be taken. The town consol rates indicate that the trust that the game will continue, is high: 32.5% per realyear. So in the case you think the game will stay, you have plenty of good investments: land, CKG, CON, collectibles, NPC, and soon: Buildings!

Just contact saddambitcoin to have a FOC set up for you!

The ideal investment for a non-player is S-HODL. Full reinvestment of dividends with no ongoing management required.

As simple as 1-2-3:

1. Buy
2. HODL
3. Profit?

This all sounds pretty interesting.

How does S-HODL work?

It invests in the "Town" assets (CON and CKG) which are something akin to debt and equity in the game itself. Both pay dividends (generally every week or two), which the HODL fund reinvests. As a passive FOC investor holding S-HODL, you stand to profit from the success the game (hopefully!) without needing to even log into your account.

Since the liquidity is currently limited (due to the small size of the game and player base) the best way to buy S-HODL at a fair market price is to PM me or jump into ##crypto-kingdom on freenode and find me there. I list new shares of S-HODL at market from time and upon request.

Thanks for letting me know it sounds like an interesting option.

[djjacket]

Crypto Kingdom Town Council Seat Opens

The Mayor or Crypto Kingdom would like to announce the retirement of Thud on the Town Council.  Thud's time availability have restricted him from participating fully in the Town Council meetings and he has resigned his position on the council.  This opens up a seat and I would like to solicit nominations and discussion both here and IRC for the replacement.

The Current Serving Town Council Members:

HM The King - King, Game Master, Lead Designer
djjacket - Mayor
noms
roopatra
moneromoo
open

Here is some background information on the Town Council for those who were not part of the Kingdom last time a position opened up:

THE MOST ANCIENT CORPORATION OF THE TOWN OF CRYPTOTOWN

Who has the gold, makes the rules.

The highest decision maker in Crypto Kingdom is the Town Council, who are selected by the holders of component resource gold, CKG (component resource is embedded in the items, so no matter what items are held, they all count as votes).

The number of seats in the Town council depends on how much CKG there is in the game:
1,000,000 - 1,999,999                        => 6
2,000,000 - 3,999,999                        => 7
4,000,000 - 7,999,999                        => 8
and so on, doubling the CKG leads to one more seat existing in the council.

Seats will be filled with willing candidates that have the highest amount of gold backing them. Elections are periodical. The members of the Town council are called Councillors, who select a Mayor among them.

Town council has the authority to decide the rules of the game.
Town council is responsible for the costs of development of the game.
Town council appoints the Mayor to coordinate its activities and run the Town.
Town council appoints the Gamemaster to "Run the Game Events and manage gamplay"
Town council appoints the personnel necessary to design and develop the game, including Lead Designer and Lead Developer.
King is independent of the Town and has a prominent position, but the rules governing the King are set by the Town.

Meetings are held weekly via IRC channel.  Weekly salary compensation is provided by the town for councilor activities.

Please post here or on IRC if you would like to apply or nominate someone for the open position.

[rpietila]

CryptoKnight Liquidation Auction

NewCorp bids for land only:

1: 80
2: 40
3: 40
4: 40
7: 50
8: 50

[saddambitcoin]

In this crypto recession, we focus less on the lavish attributes of CKG and value the quality resources. We spend millions on distilled beverages, they last forever (VOH).

We also buy horses. Ramsey has 73 horses at its disposal. Of course, most are just H1 trainee horses, they have a lot to learn, but there are only 472 horses existing in the game. We want to own about 1,000 Horses.

Based on an old tale, we heard that giving CAN to the Horses could be a good omen for fertility. So we gave 10,000 CAN to the horses and we shall see what happens.

[noms]

CryptoKnight Liquidation Auction

noms updates bid on lot 1:

1: 100

[rpietila]

Agora Market update - Conditional commands

The trading game in all items is now starting for real!

You can now use bids and asks to trigger another commands, for cool effects in the marketplace. Syntax is simple: just use ">" sign in the command to indicate that when the preceding part is fully executed, the next part takes effect.

Examples:

1. Buy, sell, and make a quick buck

BUY MEAT 1000 3000>SELL MEAT 1000 3500

Meat spoils only slowly and has liquid markets. It is quite possible that if you place this order, someone dumps you meat, and then the system puts them automatically for sale, and when you check again, the logs tell you that you both bought and sold the meat (while offline) and just have more money.

2. Sell, buy, and make a quick buck

SELL MEAT 1000 3500>BUY MEAT 1000 3000

Same as before, but if you first have the meat and want to buy back lower later.

3. Stop loss

BUY S-CKG 1 6500>SELL S-CKG 1000 1

Places first a small buy order below CKG's current price, so that if someone dumps to it, it triggers your dump at market price.

4. FOMO

SELL S-CKG 1 7500>BUY HM02B100 10 100000000

A small ask in S-CKG is placed to trigger a market buy in gold bars. If the price reaches target, then it's better not be left behind.

5. Cross-asset class arbitrage

SELL CON 50 20000000>BUY 8-N 1 1000000000

After careful examination, I decided that land at 1,000 mil per chapelry yields more than CON at 20 mil per unit. This buys the land right after the CON is sold fully.

6. Automatic increase of gold stock as shares are sold to the market

SELL S-CKG 10000 7000>BUY HM02B100 1 70000000


The simple but powerful new feature allows market making in many items by anyone. There has been an idea to make the speculative gold market to happen in S-CKG instead of the 10,000 times bigger HM02B100 bars. We are confident that the change is technically possible to happen and would allow:
1. Gold ownership (by proxy) for everyone, due to the small unit size (7,000 m)
2. Tighter spreads in market making, down to 1% from current 3%
3. Every action by players causes an instant addition of opposite side orders, keeping the spread thin in active market conditions.

FEATURE SHOULD WORK ALREADY
(report the bugs!)

[rpietila]

Borough 7 - Versailles Opens

See Map in Game DB /B7.



In 1432, nearly two centuries ago, our Blessed King rpietila I was in his sixties, eager to build the CryptoTown, whose first wall (4 m high, 1 m wide, encircling the Old Town chapelries of 1-C and 1-N) had been constructed two years before, protecting the nascent settlement. In the following 14 years, the Royal Palace was built to be the center of this area, facing south to the main town square, park facing north. The Building module opened the same year, and the Rental pool swelled with the money the King was pouring to his palace. It took decades before the other buildings combined reached the stature of the Palace of Malla.

The King was eager to get buildings around the main square, so most of the land around it was given for free, or sold for a few mil per q (~0.1 mil per sqm). It took many many years to get the land distributed: The last building on free land, Casino CryptoNight, was built in 1502, and the last major building in 1-C, a Prince of OZ commercial development, in 1590.

Thinking of it, the similarity to our current situation is most striking - the years match, the King is older but still has unfulfilled dreams before going to the way everyone must go, there are many more player accounts eager to play as the game is just opening, the current wall is a massive construction more than 100 m wide and encircling 225 chapelries instead of 2, the palace to be built is 300 meters long instead of 70, and there is the same challenge: the quick population of the Borough with magnificent buildings owned by the other players, to have something to watch from the window of the King's Bedroom (facing due east towards San Pietro along the Champs-Élysées), and boost the area stats and establish it as the center of governance of Crypto Kingdom.

Therefore, We the King, etc., are willing to give out haw lots (forever waived of property taxes) for free to worthy takers. These lots are in 7-S, 7-NE and 7-SE. The condition is to build a Headquarters or Residence. These are restricted buildings and one character can only have one of each (and should have a Residence, because it gives bonus in addition to normal payouts, and needs to have a Headquarters, because it is a requirement if the business is large enough. Five years is given for erecting the building, calculated from the granting of the haw, or the opening of Building v.2, whichever is later.

The buildings will need to abide to strict regulations of majesty, which are not completely laid out yet. The building density needs to be at least e=1.00, meaning that floor area equals lot area (can be done with 2 floors but usually requires 3, though more is possible). Building such great edifices costs much money, and the preliminary calculations (I have the formulas ready, just not published) mean that 0.5-1.0 mil per sqm needs to be budgeted. Only about 20 haws are planned, so they are intended to be the foremost residential addresses in the game forever, and retain their value. These haws can be sold, but only to nobles, and earliest after 20 years.

Protocol must be followed: Haws are meant for nobles only, and higher level takes precedence. Corporations may also apply for headquarters. Some lots will be sold in the area as well (the ones lining the Champs-Élysées). These are also haws for tax purposes but do not have resale limitations.

Apply your haw and preferred location/size from the King directly. The plans in /B7 are tentative concerning the division and sizes of lots. Note that you need to built it and use it for your residence, or a HQ. You can still have a Villa somewhere else in CryptoTown, plus country places. (Residence is the official address for receptions.)

[noms]

CryptoKnight Liquidation Auction

noms updates bids

[LOT 7]: 60
[LOT 8]: 60

[rpietila]

Bank reminds of mortgages

The Hypothecary Bank is aiming to fulfil its role in the markets by providing long-term financing for land. Lots can be mortgaged to 50% of their market value. Building value cannot unfortunately be taken into account, because the buildings can be demolished and their resources sold (demolish is free and 100% of STO1, 100% of windows and some IC from the lux are gained) without the Bank knowing.

Yet, if you buy land, and then mortgage it, you get a nice boost to the building budget!

Currently, the Bank has appraised B.23 and the loans are pending batch handling. B.22 will also have a set value based on the share conversion and mortgages will be offered. Versailles is the best of all - land is given for free, yet the King has promised it can be mortgaged for a long loan! There is mandatory massive building, so the money will certainly be of use.

If the Bank's current assets are not enough for the needs, a long loan is planned that would expire at the same time as the mortgages (1660). The large size of the emission would allow aftermarket liquidity as well + better rate than CON is paying.

[rpietila]

19,000 VEG was spoiled as there was no unison on price. This is a tragedy as there was not that much veg remaining from last year when the second manor round spoiled because of the bad roads.

King's Farms will now get the instruction to regard 700 as the autumn "correct price" for VEG, the spring will go more according to availability. It is realism that the NPCC have 30% less money and the farms just cannot ask for more.

Also, the biggest provider of FOIE to the market, King himself, will now sell starting at 40k (previously: 50-70k).

The planned Army parade for this summer is postponed to next year. The sudden availability of event-triggered commands has opened new possibilities for the marketing of the game. It is just not possible to concentrate on everything at the same time.

The Buildings module and the complete Lot update is advancing rapidly with several admins daily working on it. SirJacket will soon make a bidding contest for the chapelry graphics, and the Lot graphics can be created from the stats directly (although this feature is not currently specified for Wizard development).

The Skills core module is postponed to autumn, after the following:
- Ingame communication
- Getting CK assets (CKG, possibly others) listed in exchanges via proxies
- Handling the influx of new players resulting from the above.

Skills would add to the weekly character management time, and we do not yet have so many players who need extra work  

Versailles requires unlimited amounts of all luxuries. There is also a plan to rebuild the Royal Palace and make it a museum. We are interested in purchasing IC and everything else, if the price is right. More bids will be added as time allows.

The uptodate Items table (all stats of all items) will soon be publicly available with customizable (chained) commands so that speculators and marketmakers can easily make powerful batch files on their preferred items categories.

[Syksy]

CryptoKnight Liquidation Auction

[LOT5] 4-SE-N3 - Lot
Lot Area: 200 sqm

[LOT6] 4-SE-N5 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

Syksy would like to place the following bids:

LOT5: 15mil
LOT6: 15mil

[noms]

CryptoKnight Liquidation Auction

CryptoKnight has decided that it is time to pack up from Crypto Kingdom and move to other lands. Before he goes, he expressed to me that he would like his belongings sold if possible before he leaves. I have decided to do an auction for these items.  Please bid on these-you have 48 hours from this post to add bids for the items to Ultima.

If you bid on an item and the timestamp is after the deadline, it will be disregarded. If you see something in the LOT that says x5, for example, that means there is a quantity 5 items. Thanks, and happy bidding!

[LOT1]  2-C-C1 - 2 Story Town Palace
Lot Area: 300 sqm
Buildings Total (Density): 236 sqm (0.787 )

[LOT2] 3-E-F18 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

[LOT3] 3-S-G2 - Holiday Hut
Lot Area: 400 sqm
Buildings Total (Density): 9 sqm (0.023 )

[LOT4] 3-S-G3 - Holiday Hut
Lot Area: 400 sqm
Buildings Total (Density): 9 sqm (0.023 )

[LOT5] 4-SE-N3 - Lot
Lot Area: 200 sqm

[LOT6] 4-SE-N5 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

[LOT7] 5-E-X7 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

[LOT8] 5-E-X8 - Lot
Lot Area: 400 sqm

[LOT9] CR1602E   x22    1   CR-series 5 CKG gold coin from 1602   Gold, 5 CKG
[LOT10] CS1617E   x5    1   CS-series 5 CKS silver coin from 1617   Silver, 5 CKG
[LOT11] CT1566   x1   1   Royal CryptoArmy Centenary bronze medallion      
[LOT12] S-PGC   x100   0   Palazzo Gaming Corp      
[LOT13] S-VE1   x2   0   Well-tended vegetable garden      
[LOT14] TRC4-13   x1   8   Carriage, 4-horse model   Noble Blue   
[LOT15] TS162   x21   1   Trade silver coin from the 162x      Silver, 12 CKG
[LOT16] WIA1   x3   2   Ancient window 1x1 m   Transparent
[LOT17] WIAL   x12   2   Large Pane Ancient Window   Bronze/Copper
[LOT18] WIAS   x30   2   Standard Pane Ancient Window   Bronze/Copper
[LOT19] WIASS   x30   2   Small Pane Ancient Window   Bronze/Copper
[LOT20] WIASSS   x30   2   Tiny Pane Ancient Window   Bronze/Copper

   

Final results are in! please send the money to character number: 297


[LOT 1]: noms - 100 mil
[LOT 2]: NewCorp - 40
[LOT 3]: NewCorp - 40
[LOT 4]: NewCorp - 40
[LOT 5]: Syksy - 15mil
[LOT 6]: Syksy - 15mil
[LOT 7]: noms - 60
[LOT 8]: noms - 60

[rpietila]

Superveg has come!

Also - please do the testing on the new chained orders! There may be cases where they do not behave correctly and it's important to find out before anyone does big money trades! Do live testing with cheap items, please (trades are final)

The B.22 science conversion project is about to end. We previously announced that all the hurdles (of this ~30k SCI project) have been tackled, and this indeed seems to be the case. So this is the last year of conversion of SCI to S-B22A!

To get the number of shares required to be issued, the conversion formula is a simple addition of the two years to one:

4*SCI => 1*S-B22A
8*SCI => 2*S-B22A
16*SCI => 3*S-B22A
24*SCI => 4*S-B22A
36*SCI => 5*S-B22A
48*SCI => 6*S-B22A
64 => ...
80
100
120
144
168
196
224
...

With SCI available at 0.17 after the general revaluation, and S-B22A bid at 3.0, it is slam-dunk to convert 80*SCI minimum to shares even if you want to sell them at 3.0 (which is probably not a correct play since the borough is so good land with good potential as well).

The allocation rounds will happen next week, Sir MoneroMooo of Stonehaven is in charge.

Versailles haw allocation will also be finalised early next week, now is the time to think through your future residence and grab a haw in Versailles if it suits your plans!

[rpietila]

Gamemaster storytelling

James Daniel moves to Sweden

Many remember the incident on the platform late 1622 when the young lord James Daniel fainted on seeing the image of Gustaf Adolf and uttered words with unclear and possibly dangerous meaning. Sir Heimo came in to rescue and the situation resolved by James Daniel and Heimo both moving to Aaspere, where they had considerable garrison for a time.

Aaspere was later allocated (due to mismanagement) to HH SirJacket The Mayor, etc(x3), and James Daniel stripped of his First Baronet status. He and Heimo both bought townhouse lots in the end of B.23, to be as far away from Versailles as possible, while maintaining status of prominent noblemen.

The truth is: according to d20, James Daniel is not the son of the King. Don't know if better or worse, but not even a bastard. He is a bastard son of the late King of Sweden, with a maid in the same summer place where HM The Queen used to spend summers. The Queen had been worried that the Kingdom has only one possible blood heir, the then Marquess of Tavastia, who had enraged the King with his selling of "crown jewels". The King was visiting the Queen in 1599-1600 but this did not cause issue. The Queen pretended, however, that it would have, and adopted the boy right when he was born.

The boy had a happy childhood, and the elderly Queen in due time told him what his lineage was. At that time it was not so crucial anymore, as in 1608 the King had elevated Tavastia to Prince Royal and Heir to the Throne. Zechariah is in good health, so James Daniel was unlikely to become King. They played along however, until...

James Daniel told the truth to King when demanded, and King feared scandal. Heimo learned about it only later, which the King could not know, and expelled them both. After some time they returned, but did not feel comfortable, so James Daniel took his small private fortune and is now moving away, probably never to return. Heimo is placing himself in the King's hand, which means moving to Versailles and living as an old, wise advisor.

James Daniel assets will be merged with the Crown and the character discontinued.

The King has not taken the matter easily in any of its phases, and even the eventuality is adding to his sorrows. His health is now Ailing, with the wish to live to taste the W1600M in the Quartermillennial celebration all but abandoned. Versailles is his remaining duty upon Earth.

[rpietila]

Crypto Kingdom Marketcap hits 1,000,000 EUR for the first time in history

(just wanted to say, the project is already 510 realdays old, so it's just 2k per day  - Festina lente! )

[rpietila]

Crypto Kingdom Marketcap hits 1,000,000 EUR for the first time in history

(just wanted to say, the project is already 510 realdays old, so it's just 2k per day  - Festina lente! )

Million Euro Hack

We are currently investigating what happened, this post will be updated.

Last night our Ultima live DB was accessed by a currently unknown party. The visible result was that the logins did not work.

Since the hashes of the passwords were unchanged from last local backup (proving that they were not messed with), the problem was checked from the hosting provider side, and their live version of the DB (the one you use when playing the game) was found deficient in structure (entire tables were missing with currently unknown reason).

The DB was overwritten from their last daily backup, which restored the functionality. It is now being checked against the local backup.

Crypto Kingdom DB is built on Changelog, which is the record of title changes. It is not possible to change ownership of anything directly by overwriting some values in the DB. All changes must be made as Changelog entries, from which the balances are calculated with a script.

Further, there is no money to be stolen in the DB. It only handles the ingame items. If illegitimate entries are added to the Changelog, they will be found and reversed. Changing the past entries will be nullified by overwriting the changelog from the backup. (A checkpointing system with PoW checksums, not too dissimilar to a blockchain, is in the plans as we grow.)

It is likely that some recent, current Changelog history from the past ~24 hours is lost. We are in the process of finding out if this is the case, and which parts of history cannot be retrieved from any source, and which part of history (if any) is questionable and will not become part of the master.

The game remains playable at the moment, but I'd advise against placing orders and making trades just now, as the integrity of changelog for the last 24 hours is compromised and we do not yet have enough information to make the decision.

It is not known at the moment, if anything that happened was with malicious intent. The structures in CK are designed to nullify the effect of intrusion (more than prevent it). In any case, today will show us how easily we can recover from this kind of loss. What is already decided is that in the future, the Changelog processor will send all entries to an offline backup in real-time. If this had been in operation already, this post would not have needed to be written, and no trades records would have been lost.

[rpietila]

Million Euro Hack, Update

The changes to the game state starting from Changelog entry 158255 (March 3, 3:13 UTC) have been lost.

So - having no real choices - the GM decision is that all trades are rolled back after that period until the time that the login access was cut.

The database was restored March 4, 10:00 UTC, and the Changelog entries in the live version from 158255 (March 4, 10:17 UTC) will stay in force.

The game is fully playable and you may place orders and make trades.

The deposits and withdrawals for the period, OTC trades, and other non-market trades will stay in force by intent, and the participants are required to re-record them to the DB for them to have effect.

Currently, no signs of malicious intent have been found. Database corruption can happen for other reasons as well.

Withdrawals are disabled for the time we check the possible attack vectors of historical changelog state corruption and a few others not mentioned here. Cross-checking of history is going on as we speak. ADD: The "provider backup" has been found agreeing with the local backup, so no history has been changed.

Everyone is encouraged to:
- log in to the account now
- quickly remember the yesterday account activity and re-make the trades and consumes that were lost
- try to memorize off-market activity that needs re-recording, and record it
- it is always good to sometimes change the password, even though they are stored encrypted and thus cannot be leaked

Ordinary market trades of yesterday do not stay in force by intent, so you will need to check the situation and do them again. SuperVEG will be recreated to the farmers, and today will continue to give the extra health (and NPCC points). NPCC can therefore consume double amount and record it between yesterday and today quota in whatever way suits them (and erase the entries for the consumes that were rolled back).

We now have 183,000 VEG, which counts as Super for the players until September 20 (20:00 UTC), and for NPCC, "the whole day".

[MoneroMooo]

If you consumed SCI yesterday, please check that the consume is still in the logs, and consume again if not. If you consumed during the "lost" period before the backup was restored, you will not get the S-B22A for it (but you will be left with the original SCI).