badinvesterguy
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December 02, 2017, 07:22:43 PM |
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Aren't Bitcoins and other cryptos all untraceable? If i am not mistaken, that is their biggest advantage.
bitcoins are very traceable, you just don't know the owner (untill they buy a legitimate producct in a shop, or go to an exchange where they verified them selves) the bitcoin ledger keeps a record of every transaction sent, meaning once someone pays you in bitcoin, you could trace the origin of that bitcoin. Cloak and other privacy oriented coins make sure you can't trace those steps back to anyone else (if im not mistaken)
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mycotoxin
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December 03, 2017, 01:01:00 AM Last edit: December 03, 2017, 11:53:22 AM by mycotoxin |
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CloakCoinScam, its almost laughable that you are claiming you knew bitcoin was going to rocket like this. But you still refuse my question once again, what coins would you recommend? still can't answer that Buddy, Keep yelling Scam tho
BRO i told u before............ WEEKS ago that the devs DUMPED cloak for BTC!! BITCOIN bro! THATS ONE COIN I RECOMMEND OK? They propped up with memes on Twitter and all the open source non-sense.. Enigma this.. Enigma that... etc etc the list goes on. NOTHING CAME TRUE. SO BOOM they run off with big large money bags of BTC... dumping CLOAK to all the people who fell for the trap ok? I told u guys wayyyyyyyyyyyyy back in August/September that CLOAK was going under 100K Sats............ we are not sitting at 60K SATOSHI!!! ok? Of course i will have the guys come in "b-b-b--b-ut it hasn't dropped in USD price!!!!!" Lol if u really think this is a good sign that doesn't mean a thing. IF you held BTC like i told people to you would be up WAY MORE in USD than holding CLOAK......... thats the WHOLE point i was trying to make for weeks now. Call me a BROKEN CLOCK but guess what.. no one listened. THEY kept falling for false tricks. You CAN see the results of my analysis. CLOAK COLLAPSED while BTC SOARED just like I said. I have posts in this THREAD showing that ok? BEFORE it all happened. Case closed 4 now.. thx folks. Thanks man - I got curious and looked at the Cloakcoin Chart in detail and Cloakcoin follows a pattern. if it doesn't make any sense follow the blue arrows. The graph tells me that at some point towards Dec 27 or early next year Cloakcoin is hitting $20.00 After seeing this I bought more cloak - Tell me what you think man, as the graph shows 2018 is shaping up to be a very good for Cloakcoin . Note:Between now and early part of next year it can drop as low as $5.5 with worst case being 3.5, but that's the volatility of the market and its all part of the Climb up , so HODL the CLOAKs. - CCSCAM if you haven't picked up, you' d better get some I'd suggest, there's still time .
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tradercouch
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December 03, 2017, 12:00:33 PM |
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cloak engine have 4 gear and each gear hot speed 30$ so for first gear 30$ on this month be ready
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R-J-F
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December 03, 2017, 02:43:17 PM |
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Off topic but please read: " US Senate Moves to Criminalize Non-Disclosure of Cryptocurrency Ownership" https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-senate-moves-to-criminalize-non-disclosure-of-cryptocurrency-ownershipStand up and be heard! Stop this before it starts or we will all suffer the loss. Write, call, blog, post yell and scream. This must never see the light of day. For those of you in the US, it goes against every principle we believe in. Our country was founded on principles diametrically opposed to this proposed law. "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist." "Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. "Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew." "Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." I simply can't stress how important it is to stop this nonsense. We are no better than the Nazi's if we enact this. Even if you are NOT in the US, this will effect you in due time if enacted. Make your voices heard!
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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
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badinvesterguy
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December 03, 2017, 03:53:13 PM |
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Off topic but please read: " US Senate Moves to Criminalize Non-Disclosure of Cryptocurrency Ownership" https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-senate-moves-to-criminalize-non-disclosure-of-cryptocurrency-ownershipStand up and be heard! Stop this before it starts or we will all suffer the loss. Write, call, blog, post yell and scream. This must never see the light of day. For those of you in the US, it goes against every principle we believe in. Our country was founded on principles diametrically opposed to this proposed law. "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist." "Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. "Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew." "Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." I simply can't stress how important it is to stop this nonsense. We are no better than the Nazi's if we enact this. Even if you are NOT in the US, this will effect you in due time if enacted. Make your voices heard! So you dont want to contribute to the roads, education and healthcare of your country?
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cryptohunter
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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
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December 03, 2017, 04:07:52 PM |
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Off topic but please read: " US Senate Moves to Criminalize Non-Disclosure of Cryptocurrency Ownership" https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-senate-moves-to-criminalize-non-disclosure-of-cryptocurrency-ownershipStand up and be heard! Stop this before it starts or we will all suffer the loss. Write, call, blog, post yell and scream. This must never see the light of day. For those of you in the US, it goes against every principle we believe in. Our country was founded on principles diametrically opposed to this proposed law. "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist." "Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. "Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew." "Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." I simply can't stress how important it is to stop this nonsense. We are no better than the Nazi's if we enact this. Even if you are NOT in the US, this will effect you in due time if enacted. Make your voices heard! So you dont want to contribute to the roads, education and healthcare of your country? The government should not and does not have the right to force you to say what you OWN does it? What about you need to disclose if you own diamonds or any other item. Soon your entire life is on a database and you have no privacy. What about if you need to disclose you own a blow up doll? and butt dildo a vibrating leather mask in the image of bull with 3 horns complete with ass flavour gag ball? You don't have those do you because i need to stop talking with weird people on the internets That is different to saying the government has no right to tax you on it when you trade it. Yes trade will always be taxed i expect.
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Golova4lena
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December 03, 2017, 04:16:57 PM |
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Cloak in buy zone again and its a good time to accumulate this old good coin again, it will rise again, its a good tradition. We will see a new ath after the open source will be released.
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ObalsMums
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December 03, 2017, 04:18:02 PM |
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CloakCoinScam, its almost laughable that you are claiming you knew bitcoin was going to rocket like this. But you still refuse my question once again, what coins would you recommend? still can't answer that Buddy, Keep yelling Scam tho
BRO i told u before............ WEEKS ago that the devs DUMPED cloak for BTC!! BITCOIN bro! THATS ONE COIN I RECOMMEND OK? They propped up with memes on Twitter and all the open source non-sense.. Enigma this.. Enigma that... etc etc the list goes on. NOTHING CAME TRUE. SO BOOM they run off with big large money bags of BTC... dumping CLOAK to all the people who fell for the trap ok? I told u guys wayyyyyyyyyyyyy back in August/September that CLOAK was going under 100K Sats............ we are not sitting at 60K SATOSHI!!! ok? Of course i will have the guys come in "b-b-b--b-ut it hasn't dropped in USD price!!!!!" Lol if u really think this is a good sign that doesn't mean a thing. IF you held BTC like i told people to you would be up WAY MORE in USD than holding CLOAK......... thats the WHOLE point i was trying to make for weeks now. Call me a BROKEN CLOCK but guess what.. no one listened. THEY kept falling for false tricks. You CAN see the results of my analysis. CLOAK COLLAPSED while BTC SOARED just like I said. I have posts in this THREAD showing that ok? BEFORE it all happened. Case closed 4 now.. thx folks. Lol dude, I can understand that bitcoin was obv the better play, we don’t need a troll to tell us that, but we didn’t lose any money if the usd value stayed the same. Pretty sure it has actually gone up too, so you lose that battle too. Every single coin has gone down in satoshi price, otherwise all these coins would be super inflated. You just sound so butt hurt that you didn’t sell at 500k you greedy POS. And I don’t mean proof of stake. Lmao my man i got out of cloak MONTHS ago trust me... and ur still missing the point. If u got out of CLOAK when i told u to.. you would UP in USD value way more than cloak. Obv ur IQ is too low to understand my analysis but thats ok, every bag holder is the salt man lol But how does that take away from the fact that cloak is up huge this year? Your retrospect is 100% don’t get me wrong, but so is everyone elses
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badinvesterguy
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December 03, 2017, 04:19:04 PM |
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Off topic but please read: " US Senate Moves to Criminalize Non-Disclosure of Cryptocurrency Ownership" https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-senate-moves-to-criminalize-non-disclosure-of-cryptocurrency-ownershipStand up and be heard! Stop this before it starts or we will all suffer the loss. Write, call, blog, post yell and scream. This must never see the light of day. For those of you in the US, it goes against every principle we believe in. Our country was founded on principles diametrically opposed to this proposed law. "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist." "Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. "Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew." "Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." I simply can't stress how important it is to stop this nonsense. We are no better than the Nazi's if we enact this. Even if you are NOT in the US, this will effect you in due time if enacted. Make your voices heard! So you dont want to contribute to the roads, education and healthcare of your country? The government should not and does not have the right to force you to say what you OWN does it? What about you need to disclose if you own diamonds or any other item. Soon your entire life is on a database and you have no privacy. What about if you need to disclose you own a blow up doll? and butt dildo a vibrating leather mask in the image of bull with 3 horns complete with ass flavour gag ball? You don't have those do you because i need to stop talking with weird people on the internets That is different to saying the government has no right to tax you on it when you trade it. Yes trade will always be taxed i expect. Not what specifically, but the worth of currencies and assets, just like you to with banks in previous years?
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mycotoxin
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December 03, 2017, 04:36:18 PM |
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Off topic but please read: " US Senate Moves to Criminalize Non-Disclosure of Cryptocurrency Ownership" https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-senate-moves-to-criminalize-non-disclosure-of-cryptocurrency-ownershipStand up and be heard! Stop this before it starts or we will all suffer the loss. Write, call, blog, post yell and scream. This must never see the light of day. For those of you in the US, it goes against every principle we believe in. Our country was founded on principles diametrically opposed to this proposed law. "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist." "Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. "Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew." "Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." I simply can't stress how important it is to stop this nonsense. We are no better than the Nazi's if we enact this. Even if you are NOT in the US, this will effect you in due time if enacted. Make your voices heard! if you live in the US or use any of the US exchanges, you owe taxes and most likely will have to pay them in 2019. This is one of the reasons for the disclosure. The problem is how the taxes will be calculated . Moving coins to an offline wallet is considered a sale, selling any coin is considered a capital gains event. The challenge will be that in some cases you will owe more than the value of your coins plus penalties. For example if you sold at the top of the ATH ( ie BTC 11,000) and the value of the coin has dropped substantially (ie BTC 3000) you will still owe taxes based on the value of the coin when you sold it and not the current value.
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tradercouch
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December 03, 2017, 07:01:05 PM |
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cloak is monero cousin on november monero trading was 85 after one month now trading 205 wow cloak is really monero cousin hahaha
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bribed
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December 03, 2017, 07:50:17 PM |
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What about if you need to disclose you own a blow up doll? and butt dildo a vibrating leather mask in the image of bull with 3 horns complete with ass flavour gag ball? You don't have those do you because i need to stop talking with weird people on the internets
Lmfao dude, what the, gag ball with ass flavour? Is that a real thing? Im totally with you though. Governments should not care about the possessions of an individual. The example might be a bit extreme, but its clear: at some point this big data collection and making the citizens transparent in any means, can backfire heavily. Just think about the jews in netherlands that happily told the government at that time that they were jews when the stamping cards where newly invented and governments started to do statistics with this instrument. Some years later the nazis invaded the country and didnt have to search long for the jews they were looking for, they just had to use the data that was already collected and perfectly usable for them. You get were Im going? Something similar can happen again. To any of us. People who feel that they have nothing to hide and therefore dont care about privacy, are just plain stupid in my opinion. But maybe thats just me.
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R-J-F
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December 03, 2017, 09:02:19 PM |
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Off topic but please read: " US Senate Moves to Criminalize Non-Disclosure of Cryptocurrency Ownership" https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-senate-moves-to-criminalize-non-disclosure-of-cryptocurrency-ownershipStand up and be heard! Stop this before it starts or we will all suffer the loss. Write, call, blog, post yell and scream. This must never see the light of day. For those of you in the US, it goes against every principle we believe in. Our country was founded on principles diametrically opposed to this proposed law. "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist." "Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. "Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew." "Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." I simply can't stress how important it is to stop this nonsense. We are no better than the Nazi's if we enact this. Even if you are NOT in the US, this will effect you in due time if enacted. Make your voices heard! So you dont want to contribute to the roads, education and healthcare of your country? Don't be an idiot, at least not in public. I contribute my fair share. This isn't about that. This is about personal and financial freedom. You might be a sheep but I'm not. Do you want to go to jail because you own crypto? Do you own ANYTHING you don't want others to know about? Even if you say no what gives the government the right to know what you are doing with your wealth? They see us as criminals, not patriots not supporters of truth and freedom and that IS the problem. People hide cash but, it's not a crime to hold it. Open your eyes, this is a money grab and nothing else.
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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
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therealwafdawg
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December 03, 2017, 09:29:46 PM |
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Have any of you staked Cloak Coin in your wallet but then the transaction never confirms? What to do in those situations?
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yogibaer
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December 03, 2017, 10:02:29 PM |
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Have any of you staked Cloak Coin in your wallet but then the transaction never confirms? What to do in those situations?
Hi! This is an orphan block, another wallet was faster. That doesn't matter. your coins will stake later and produce one of the next blocks. Nothing to worry about.
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vinnieG
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December 04, 2017, 09:00:47 AM |
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CloakCoinScam, its almost laughable that you are claiming you knew bitcoin was going to rocket like this. But you still refuse my question once again, what coins would you recommend? still can't answer that Buddy, Keep yelling Scam tho
BRO i told u before............ WEEKS ago that the devs DUMPED cloak for BTC!! BITCOIN bro! THATS ONE COIN I RECOMMEND OK? They propped up with memes on Twitter and all the open source non-sense.. Enigma this.. Enigma that... etc etc the list goes on. NOTHING CAME TRUE. SO BOOM they run off with big large money bags of BTC... dumping CLOAK to all the people who fell for the trap ok? I told u guys wayyyyyyyyyyyyy back in August/September that CLOAK was going under 100K Sats............ we are not sitting at 60K SATOSHI!!! ok? Of course i will have the guys come in "b-b-b--b-ut it hasn't dropped in USD price!!!!!" Lol if u really think this is a good sign that doesn't mean a thing. IF you held BTC like i told people to you would be up WAY MORE in USD than holding CLOAK......... thats the WHOLE point i was trying to make for weeks now. Call me a BROKEN CLOCK but guess what.. no one listened. THEY kept falling for false tricks. You CAN see the results of my analysis. CLOAK COLLAPSED while BTC SOARED just like I said. I have posts in this THREAD showing that ok? BEFORE it all happened. Case closed 4 now.. thx folks. Lol dude, I can understand that bitcoin was obv the better play, we don’t need a troll to tell us that, but we didn’t lose any money if the usd value stayed the same. Pretty sure it has actually gone up too, so you lose that battle too. Every single coin has gone down in satoshi price, otherwise all these coins would be super inflated. You just sound so butt hurt that you didn’t sell at 500k you greedy POS. And I don’t mean proof of stake. Cloackcoinscam my BRO.......you're SO wrong OK? BTC is the biggest SCAM folks! Fork after fork to give more money an power to the miners! You recommend us to follow these scammers? BRO.... you are so totally wrong ok? Remember SEGWIT, nothing come true, take care folks.........! Visa has on average 2000 tps, BTC is retricted to 7 tps. No scalability for mass adoption ok? Old tech for prerium price OK? Cloak is scalable with good dev team. Technology is future proof and scalable. Folks don't look at price today, but at the future potential of Cloak. Case close ok?....
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mycotoxin
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December 04, 2017, 10:59:12 AM |
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We have to keep in mind BTC can correct from this 11K range this week. BTC cant go parabolic forever and parabolas can correct up to 50%. ..Ofcourse BTC can just keep on rising , but If BTC does correct all ALTs will take a hit including Cloakcoin, so expect the unexpected and HODL the Cloakcoin.
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lab rat hoax
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December 04, 2017, 08:05:05 PM |
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open source ENIGMA will stun and amaze
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cryptophil
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December 04, 2017, 09:01:19 PM |
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Hi all Is there discord for this poject? Will there be a wallet update because at the moment v2.0.2.1 take up memory enough for 3 or 4 wallets! Cheers
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To stake or not to stake! Be stake or be there!
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Cloverfield
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December 04, 2017, 09:15:13 PM |
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Good to see that Cloak is doing good on the markets again! Back at my buying prices, but will hold them at least one more year and wait for my stakes. Open source updates? Good luck and best wishes this month!
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