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Insomniac8
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October 20, 2014, 02:42:08 PM |
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How are people even requesting withdrawals? The site is completely down apart from a non-functioning login box for me...
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atomrigs
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October 20, 2014, 03:15:19 PM |
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How are people even requesting withdrawals? The site is completely down apart from a non-functioning login box for me...
If it does not work, reset the password by clicking the link on the page. |
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DeAlquezar
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October 20, 2014, 03:16:46 PM |
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Any chance to reclaim our BTC? What do you think abou it?
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BlockaFett (OP)
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October 20, 2014, 03:29:00 PM |
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Hey Gatekeeper Any chance you can email Bitstamp and give the exact BTC addresses you think are theirs and that the stolen funds originated from? Not sure if I gave them the correct info. If you link this thread they are aware of the situation, or PM me. If there's a chance we can definitely track the stolen funds to their wallet its important obviously but they are saying its not their wallet. support@bitstamp.netcheers |
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BlockaFett (OP)
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October 20, 2014, 03:31:39 PM |
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Any chance to reclaim our BTC? What do you think abou it?
IDK. Trying  |
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Gatekeeper
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October 20, 2014, 03:33:46 PM |
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Hmmm, It's a weird one, 3 gigantic addresses are linked together and there's no real proof of exactly what they are. I can't believe it's not an exchange the two listed above are active now, the older address that sent to both of them is below and ran from Jan-Jun https://blockchain.info/address/1FVcMfHXPp8JSCduYyELzQZf6X4tSv89ho?offset=1050&filter=0I'm amazed you can have 3 such huge and active addresses and no real proof of who they belong to by searching google. Bobba, those 2 addresses i thought were Stamps, well the 183k one mainly, when Stamp do their proof of reserve the amount of btc i remember them having was 183k so thought it was theirs but obviously not It might not be too important because it was only a small amount of btc sent there, the vast majority of the stolen coins are sitting in the addresses i listed, so i'll be keeping an eye on them. I know most people hate coloured coins or blacklisted coins, but it would be great if Bitcoin had some way of marking those coins so everyone knows they are scam coins and basically made them impossible to cash out. |
(1470) <KLYE> But I was far too drunk to fuck a midget
(1470) <KLYE> I will fuck a chicken for 250 btc
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naplam
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October 20, 2014, 03:53:22 PM |
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I know most people hate coloured coins or blacklisted coins, but it would be great if Bitcoin had some way of marking those coins so everyone knows they are scam coins and basically made them impossible to cash out.
And for good reason... you can't have a team of vigilantes decide somebody else's money is to be destroyed, the idea is insane. |
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BlockaFett (OP)
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October 20, 2014, 04:03:30 PM |
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I know most people hate coloured coins or blacklisted coins, but it would be great if Bitcoin had some way of marking those coins so everyone knows they are scam coins and basically made them impossible to cash out.
And for good reason... you can't have a team of vigilantes decide somebody else's money is to be destroyed, the idea is insane. it's not insane, there are crypto services right now saying they are going to track where BTC has been and only allow coins not previously used for certain activities i dont agree with it though personally it should be a free system |
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BlockaFett (OP)
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October 20, 2014, 04:05:59 PM |
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Hmmm, It's a weird one, 3 gigantic addresses are linked together and there's no real proof of exactly what they are. I can't believe it's not an exchange the two listed above are active now, the older address that sent to both of them is below and ran from Jan-Jun https://blockchain.info/address/1FVcMfHXPp8JSCduYyELzQZf6X4tSv89ho?offset=1050&filter=0I'm amazed you can have 3 such huge and active addresses and no real proof of who they belong to by searching google. Bobba, those 2 addresses i thought were Stamps, well the 183k one mainly, when Stamp do their proof of reserve the amount of btc i remember them having was 183k so thought it was theirs but obviously not It might not be too important because it was only a small amount of btc sent there, the vast majority of the stolen coins are sitting in the addresses i listed, so i'll be keeping an eye on them. I know most people hate coloured coins or blacklisted coins, but it would be great if Bitcoin had some way of marking those coins so everyone knows they are scam coins and basically made them impossible to cash out. no worries, so might have jumped the gun with Bitstamp but better to be safe than sorry, at least we know it's not them... On legal approach for this personally I don't think it matters where the coins ended up, rather that they were under Ryan's control and he took them. |
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BlockaFett (OP)
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October 20, 2014, 04:06:48 PM |
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How many times we'll have to say to never trust the exchanges ? Store most of your BTC in a secure wallet guys, it's not the first time that happened and I'm sure it's far to be the last one. Greed never changes.
LOL thanks. |
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NZ_miner
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October 20, 2014, 04:16:18 PM |
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Hmmm, It's a weird one, 3 gigantic addresses are linked together and there's no real proof of exactly what they are. I can't believe it's not an exchange the two listed above are active now, the older address that sent to both of them is below and ran from Jan-Jun https://blockchain.info/address/1FVcMfHXPp8JSCduYyELzQZf6X4tSv89ho?offset=1050&filter=0I'm amazed you can have 3 such huge and active addresses and no real proof of who they belong to by searching google. Bobba, those 2 addresses i thought were Stamps, well the 183k one mainly, when Stamp do their proof of reserve the amount of btc i remember them having was 183k so thought it was theirs but obviously not It might not be too important because it was only a small amount of btc sent there, the vast majority of the stolen coins are sitting in the addresses i listed, so i'll be keeping an eye on them. I know most people hate coloured coins or blacklisted coins, but it would be great if Bitcoin had some way of marking those coins so everyone knows they are scam coins and basically made them impossible to cash out. no worries, so might have jumped the gun with Bitstamp but better to be safe than sorry, at least we know it's not them... On legal approach for this personally I don't think it matters where the coins ended up, rather that they were under Ryan's control and he took them. If it is not Bitstamp it must be one of the other large exchanges ... worth sending this info to the rest of them? If nothing else we can rule them out, when you find out which one it is they may be able to link the name of Alex/Ryan |
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svenp
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October 20, 2014, 04:19:09 PM |
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How many times we'll have to say to never trust the exchanges ? Store most of your BTC in a secure wallet guys, it's not the first time that happened and I'm sure it's far to be the last one. Greed never changes.
This isn't a solution. People need to have trustworthy exchanges. I transferred BTC to mintpal for a trade 1hr before it disappeared. Either the technology needs to be there for decentralized trustless exchanges or we need to have community organizations and standards with which to properly audit companies (and the individuals involved) so that this sort of thing doesn't keep happening. If there is no 3rd party oversight, no accountability and unvetted/anonymous people in charge this is guaranteed to continue. |
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BlockaFett (OP)
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October 20, 2014, 04:24:02 PM |
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Ok just thinking about it, if the following is correct... 1) Ryan took complete (meaning sole) control of the Mintpal wallets on some date (x) 2) After date (x) 3,700 went walkies and is being split up in big chunks (like above) 3) This BTC belonged to customers and its been taken out (and Ryan isn't returning it) Then whats the problem, why can't UK fraud authorities prosecute him, the funds are gone and he was in sole control, and obviously the above trail isn't a 'bug' ferreting the funds away like that? |
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BlockaFett (OP)
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October 20, 2014, 04:27:04 PM |
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I totally agree with you, but for the moment I don't see any other safer solutions. Is there any serious project for a decentralized exchange ?
don't think so. it's so needed, not just to protect funds better, also to have a free system, just look at all the compliance shit and its not exactly helping customers like as in this case more like helping governments. sure it will come sooner or later, roll on. |
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svenp
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October 20, 2014, 04:32:28 PM |
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Then whats the problem, why can't UK fraud authorities prosecute him, the funds are gone and he was in sole control, and obviously the above trail isn't a 'bug' ferreting the funds away like that?
If I was this slimy little fuck, I'd claim that someone hacked into the server without my knowledge and stole the money or that the Russian programmers I'd hired to build v2 stole it or that the other employees did it, or.... I'm sure he'll have a story, perhaps several. You see, he's just as much a victim as the rest of us. Can it be PROVEN that he had sole access? Can it be PROVEN that he actually transferred the BTC? My guess is not easily. If you want your money back your going to have to make it in Alex's best interest to return it. Make him an offer he can't refuse... |
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October 20, 2014, 04:35:48 PM |
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Then whats the problem, why can't UK fraud authorities prosecute him, the funds are gone and he was in sole control, and obviously the above trail isn't a 'bug' ferreting the funds away like that?
If I was this slimy little fuck, I'd claim that someone hacked into the server without my knowledge and stole the money or that the Russian programmers I'd hired to build v2 stole it or that the other employees did it, or.... I'm sure he'll have a story, perhaps several. You see, he's just as much a victim as the rest of us. Can it be PROVEN that he had sole access? Can it be PROVEN that he actually transferred the BTC? My guess is not easily. If you want your money back your going to have to make it in Alex's best interest to return it. Make him an offer he can't refuse... I'm not here to argue, but asking someone with his kind of conscience to give back money? That just doesn't happen. |
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BlockaFett (OP)
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October 20, 2014, 04:37:19 PM |
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ok so some key info that would help:
1. When did Ryan get sole access to the Mintpal system (and wallets)
2. Can this be proven, e.g. paper trail / emails etc, where is it?
3. Can it be proven that the 3,700 BTC came from the Mintpal wallet and he transferred it out?
(I suppose 3 is proven if 1 is true right?)
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nhrf3
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October 20, 2014, 04:39:03 PM |
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Man, I lucked out. Removed all but 15k Karma(worth pennies lol) and about 5k SYS. I even deposited about 10k VRC after the funny business(before scam allegations though) because their buy orders were a bit higher than Bittrex and I was able to withdraw.
Such a shame that the best looking and functioning exchange has turned to this in just a couple months.
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