[ANN] 700,000 Cash Deposit Locations in Brazil, Russia, USA - BitInstant

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Greetings!

This morning, after much anticipation, BitInstant has launched in two new countries, and now enables
cash deposits at over 700,000 locations in USA, Brazil, and Russia (with Canada arriving in a couple
weeks as well).

Previously, cash deposits were only accepted at the four big banks here in the us (Chase, CitiBank,
Wells Fargo, and Bank of America). Now, in addition to the banks, you can make a cash deposit at the
following locations:

USA
Walmart
CVS
7-Eleven
MoneyGram
Thousands more local convenience, retail, & drug stores and money service locations

Brazil
Boleto Bancário (Boleto)
[These can be paid at ATM's, bank branches, post offices, lottery agents, and some supermarkets and
drug stores as well as via online banking!]

Russia
Qiwi Network
Cyberplat Network
[Both networks contain thousands of cash kiosks popular throughout Russia]

USA and Russia locations enable you to be credited within about an hour, and Brazil requires about 24
hours. The Brazilian Boleto system can be paid with the cash deposits or via Internet Banking .

In total, this now adds over 700,000 cash deposit locations in addition to the major banks where people
in these countries can buy Bitcoins with cash. Canada will be added within weeks, and other countries
will follow. We've been extremely excited about this new deal for months, and we're thrilled to be able
to finally share it with you all!

All deposits have a standard lower rate of 3.99% all around.

Visit BitInstant.com and give it a try!

Always a pleasure serving you!

Thanks,

The Team at Bitinstant
Support@bitinstant.com
1.716.712.4846

[unclescrooge]

Awesome, good job guys!

[DeathAndTaxes]

Amazing but I tried and got  ...

Sorry, but this merchant is not ready to accept cash at this time. Please try again later.

I don't even really need to deposit any cash but I was going to try making a deposit at 7-11 on my lunch break just to try it out.  I mean this could bust bitcoin access & adoption wide open.

[cbeast]

Sweet.

[BadBear]

Well that's convenient. Nice job guys.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Amazing but I tried and got  ...

Sorry, but this merchant is not ready to accept cash at this time. Please try again later.

I don't even really need to deposit any cash but I was going to try making a deposit at 7-11 on my lunch break.

Will be fixed in 7 minutes, stand by please- 1 bug

[rjk]

Sweeeeeeet

[Serge]

congrats!

Please explain how does cash depositing work in US through Walmart, 711, CVS, etc

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

congrats!

Please explain how does cash depositing work in US through Walmart, 711, CVS, etc

Simple!

Same way a US Bank cash deposit works.

Head over to the site, it will generate a deposit slip for you and just hand it into the teller at 7-11.

Your good to go

[Nejc Kodric (BitStamp.net)]

Great news Charlie! I am glad to hear this!!

Best regards,
Nejc Kodrič
www.bitstamp.net

[Tuxavant]

Not seeing any walmarts in my deposit locations... What am I missing?

[BadBear]

Not seeing any walmarts in my deposit locations... What am I missing?

I had the same problem at first, then realized I was on the how it works page instead of the main page.

[Tuxavant]

I just did the quote and clicked on the trustcash link. No option to choose anything but the 3 banks.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I just did the quote and clicked on the trustcash link. No option to choose anything but the 3 banks.

Not seeing any walmarts in my deposit locations... What am I missing?

You chose 'Major Bank Branch' which is TC locations.

You need to choose one of the other locations on our homepage

[Tuxavant]

LOL... DERP.

And some call me an IT professional... I guess that makes them more dumber than me.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Amazing but I tried and got  ...

Sorry, but this merchant is not ready to accept cash at this time. Please try again later.

I don't even really need to deposit any cash but I was going to try making a deposit at 7-11 on my lunch break.

Will be fixed in 7 minutes, stand by please- 1 bug

FIXED!

LOL... DERP.

And some call me an IT professional... I guess that makes them more dumber than me.

LOL, so do you like?

[teste]

Hi,

1- If I choose Brazil I think the field (amount to send) should be real currency and not dollar.
2- "You receive" on first page should include the 1 dollar fee that appear on the next pages.

[evoorhees]

For me in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, I now have 15 locations (other than banks) within a 10 min drive

[Tuxavant]

LOL, so do you like?

Veddy nice... making a deposit today at lunch...

[blueadept]

This looks great! 7-11 shows up as "Eleven" though.

[HostFat]

Please, come to europe!

[dancupid]

Looking good - you should add Portuguese and Russian language support (I'm assuming you have that in hand already though)

[evoorhees]

Looking good - you should add Portuguese and Russian language support (I'm assuming you have that in hand already though)

That will be launched very soon.

[bearbones]

Bad ass! Keep up the good work, guys!

[Herbert]

This is REALLY great. Good job!

[dunand]

Is it possible for bitinstant to convert the funds directly to bitcoins instead of dealing with mtgox or coinapult?

[rjk]

Is it possible for bitinstant to convert the funds directly to bitcoins instead of dealing with mtgox or coinapult?

The whole point of their business is to not be an exchange. That's how they were able to get a money transmitter's license in the first place.

[BitcoinBug]

Now that's just... awesome! You guys rock!

[bitcams]

Yay!!!

[evoorhees]

Is it possible for bitinstant to convert the funds directly to bitcoins instead of dealing with mtgox or coinapult?

That's the purpose of Coinapult.... you can avoid the exchanges completely and just get the Bitcoins in your email. As rjk mentioned above, BitInstant can't be the exchanger directly for various legal reasons.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Hi,

1- If I choose Brazil I think the field (amount to send) should be real currency and not dollar.
2- "You receive" on first page should include the 1 dollar fee that appear on the next pages.

1- The amount to send is USD, but it will display in real time your local currency in the field below
2- That $1.00 fee does not exist anymore, we will fix that now. There is no $1.00 fee.

This looks great! 7-11 shows up as "Eleven" though.

Fixing now!

[Elwar]

Great job guys. This will fill one major hurdle in Bitcoin which is the difficulty in actually getting Bitcoins.


Now if we could have the opposite. Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

At least bit-pay can do a direct deposit of cash from BTC...

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Great job guys. This will fill one major hurdle in Bitcoin which is the difficulty in actually getting Bitcoins.

Thanks 

Now if we could have the opposite. Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

At least bit-pay can do a direct deposit of cash from BTC...

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

[rjk]

Now if we could have the opposite. Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

At least bit-pay can do a direct deposit of cash from BTC...

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

Aw hell yeah.

[teste]

Hum,

1- If I'm buying with brazilian currency I think the fields should represent Real and not Dollar. When I go to buy I want to insert the exactly amount I want to pay in Real currency.
2- See that I only will know the exactly amout to pay in Real on the last screen that is not Bitinstant page anymore.
3- To generate boleto do I really need to insert my Cpf, Rg and other informations. I don't like that.

[dancupid]

The UK seems an easy egg to crack as you can already just walk into a bank and put money into any account - is it just a technical matter (dealing with Lloyds still using 19th century technology and a bunch of tellers using quill pens) or a legal matter?

[gourami]

bitinstant is great. i have used their services many times. no problems whatsoever.
and everything is done very quickly.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Is it possible for bitinstant to convert the funds directly to bitcoins instead of dealing with mtgox or coinapult?

The whole point of their business is to not be an exchange. That's how they were able to get a money transmitter's license in the first place.

This is partly true.

Hum,

1- If I'm buying with brazilian currency I think the fields should represent Real and not Dollar. When I go to buy I want to insert the exactly amount I want to pay in Real currency.
2- See that I only will know the exactly amout to pay in Real on the last screen that is not Bitinstant page anymore.
3- To generate boleto do I really need to insert my Cpf, Rg and other informations. I don't like that.

1- Follow the instructions on our homepage, type in the amount in USD and it will show you on the bottom how much you will receive in MtGox. It will also show you the BRL amount. Have you tried it? You don't have to go to the next page, it will display right there.
2- We display a very close estimated amount in Real right on our homepage, and you don't even have to refresh.


3- I apologize but thats Brazilian Government regulations, not mine! The Brazilian gov't is VERY rigorous, we are lucky to even have this.

The UK seems an easy egg to crack as you can already just walk into a bank and put money into any account - is it just a technical matter (dealing with Lloyds still using 19th century technology and a bunch of tellers using quill pens) or a legal matter?

UK, EU, and Canada are not far away.

We launched US, Brazil and Russia first because we finished contracting with those countries first. Once a country is ready to go, we launch it within days

[Elwar]

Great job guys. This will fill one major hurdle in Bitcoin which is the difficulty in actually getting Bitcoins.

Thanks 

Now if we could have the opposite. Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

At least bit-pay can do a direct deposit of cash from BTC...

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

sweet...

[Technomage]

This is big time. Congrats

[Tuxavant]

Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

Immanent death of Western Union in 5... 4... 3...

[teste]

Hi,

See this:

1- I go to buy 100 dollars, that is 208 Reais
2- I go to next page and see quote for cash transaction:
Amount you need to pay: 100 usd
Amount you will receive: 95 usd
3- I click go and the total I need to pay is 186,57 Reais. Shouldn't be 208 Reais?

[Serge]

Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

Immanent death of Western Union in 5... 4... 3...

one shouldn't forget about the fees. with WU, the further a country the less WU fees are, also WU is cheaper by going to a local agent than sending it from their site with CC.
for instance, WU fees on decent amount to China - 1%, Russia/Ukraine - 4%, Canada - 10%

so in some cases it will be cheaper to send money through BitInstant, in others WU will still prevail.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Hi,

See this:

1- I go to buy 100 dollars, that is 208 Reais
2- I go to next page and see quote for cash transaction:
Amount you need to pay: 100 usd
Amount you will receive: 95 usd
3- I click go and the total I need to pay is 186,57 Reais. Shouldn't be 208 Reais?

I will look into this, Im not sure why its about $5 off.

If its a mistake on our end, all transactions will still be honored.

[jco]

This is so great!  Many thanks to the developers.

[Elwar]

so in some cases it will be cheaper to send money through BitInstant, in others WU will still prevail.

For now...BitInstant is just getting into the game. With volume they could certainly compete.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

so in some cases it will be cheaper to send money through BitInstant, in others WU will still prevail.

For now...BitInstant is just getting into the game. With volume they could certainly compete.

We will also be much easier and simpler.

While WU's strategy is make you fill out 3 pages of paperwork while on any transaction under $1000 they barely need half a page of info, we only ask for the info we need.

For example, when we roll out wire transfers and ACH, we will be required to get a little more information from you, only on certain transfers.

[teste]

186,57 to 208 is about 10 dollars off. I still didn't use the service. I'm just testing it. If is really a bug, I appreciate a donation. Thanks

[acoindr]

I'm speechless. This is huge.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

186,57 to 208 is about 10 dollars off. I still didn't use the service. I'm just testing it. If is really a bug, I appreciate a donation. Thanks

Cool, of course. I shot an email to our rep at the bank, will have a response in a few.

If you find anymore bugs please let me know ASAP

EDIT:

Our devs recently made some changes to the integration with Brazil, and there appears to be a display issue regarding that. If you complete the transaction, the boleto (payment slip) says R$217.37 for a USD $100 transaction, which is the correct amount. We are working on fixing the wrong number showing in the checkout screen and it should be fixed shortly within a few days.

Whats your donation address?

-Charlie

[weex]

I hit return to merchant after going to ZipZap (for CVS) and it went to https://www.bitinstant.com/zipzap_callback where the page said only:

None

Still, awesome service and I'm trying it out today! This could Change Everything(tm) again.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I hit return to merchant after going to ZipZap (for CVS) and it went to https://www.bitinstant.com/zipzap_callback where the page said only:

None

Still, awesome service and I'm trying it out today! This could Change Everything(tm) again.

Fixing now, thanks Dave!

[RodeoX]

Can someone walk my dumb a$$ through this? So, I go into Walmart and I do what now? 

I just want to be clear on the process as I'm sure the Walmart employee will not be.

[teste]

Hi,

So If I want to buy 100 dollars, I'll receive 96 dollars that is = 208 Reais.
With fees, on the end, I'll have to pay 215 Reais.

Suggestion:

Show total amount necessary to pay on the main page, including the fee. (The same information that appear on boleto)

Is this possible?

[mtminer]

Great job guys. This will fill one major hurdle in Bitcoin which is the difficulty in actually getting Bitcoins.

Thanks 

Now if we could have the opposite. Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

At least bit-pay can do a direct deposit of cash from BTC...

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

So we would be able to use your service to withdraw from Mt-gox to an US bank account?

[shad0wbitz]

Is anybody else getting a 500 server error when trying to place an order?

[draco49]

Congratulations to Charlie and the rest of the BitInstant Team!  If you've never used BitInstant, you should give it shot.  It is, by far, the easiest and fastest way to convert cash to coins.  Go BitInstant!

Also, for those in the US who may not be aware... you don't have to physically go to one of their participating locations if you have an account with one of the 4 banks they support.  If you have a Chase account, you can make your deposit online by initiating a funds transfer from your account to the account # listed on the invoice.  Same for BOA, Wells Fargo, and Citi. 

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Great job guys. This will fill one major hurdle in Bitcoin which is the difficulty in actually getting Bitcoins.

Thanks 

Now if we could have the opposite. Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

At least bit-pay can do a direct deposit of cash from BTC...

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

So we would be able to use your service to withdraw from Mt-gox to an US bank account?

Yup, or any bank account in 186 countries in 100 currencies 

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Can someone walk my dumb a$$ through this? So, I go into Walmart and I do what now? 

I just want to be clear on the process as I'm sure the Walmart employee will not be.

Dumb a$$ #2 has same question(s).

BTW, this looks great, Yankee!

~Bruno~

[phelix]

have you thought about Greece? I am dead serious.

[rjk]

Great job guys. This will fill one major hurdle in Bitcoin which is the difficulty in actually getting Bitcoins.

Thanks 

Now if we could have the opposite. Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

At least bit-pay can do a direct deposit of cash from BTC...

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

So we would be able to use your service to withdraw from Mt-gox to an US bank account?

Yup, or any bank account in 186 countries in 100 currencies 

[weex]

Can someone walk my dumb a$$ through this? So, I go into Walmart and I do what now? 

I just want to be clear on the process as I'm sure the Walmart employee will not be.

Dumb a$$ #2 has same question(s).

BTW, this looks great, Yankee!

~Bruno~

Please don't start in Walmart. Start at bitinstant.com and all will be clear. Once you get to Walmart with payment slip and cash in hand, you'll be handing both to a clerk there.

[kangasbros]

have you thought about Greece? I am dead serious.

I have, if there is any Greek bitcoiner who wants to translate easywallet.org to Greek, send me an offer  

Seriously, greece seems to be making headlines every day, and it would be a great opportunity to troll Greeks with bitcoins.

[evoorhees]

Can someone walk my dumb a$$ through this? So, I go into Walmart and I do what now? 

I just want to be clear on the process as I'm sure the Walmart employee will not be.

Dumb a$$ #2 has same question(s).

BTW, this looks great, Yankee!

~Bruno~

Honestly the best way to learn is to do it with $20 and see how easy it is. Go through the process on BitInstant.com, and you'll see all the instructions you need.

[hazek]

Awesome job BitInstant!

have you thought about Greece? I am dead serious.

^ this!

[shad0wbitz]

Guys, I don't know if it is just me, but no matter what option I select for cash deposits in the US (except banks) I get a SERVER 500 ERROR. Is anybody else experiencing this?

[Tuxavant]

yea.. same here.. system overload.

Bitch, Fix this, I NEED some BitInstant! lol

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

yea.. same here.. system overload.

Bitch, Fix this, I NEED some BitInstant! lol

Working on it right now!

[siulynot]

Please please! Do something so that i can make a cash deposit in Puerto Rico. We are a commonwealth of United States. There are walmarts here but Zip zap says that there are no deposit locations in my territory.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Please please! Do something so that i can make a cash deposit in Puerto Rico. We are a commonwealth of United States. There are walmarts here but Zip zap says that there are no deposit locations in my territory.

Just choose any Walmart in the states, and bring it to a Walmart in Puerto Rico, should work fine.

yea.. same here.. system overload.

Bitch, Fix this, I NEED some BitInstant! lol

Working on it right now!

EDIT: Fixed!

[Serge]

Can someone walk my dumb a$$ through this? So, I go into Walmart and I do what now? 

I just want to be clear on the process as I'm sure the Walmart employee will not be.

Dumb a$$ #2 has same question(s).

BTW, this looks great, Yankee!

~Bruno~

All hail to Smart[phone] a$$ guru!


that the problem of b2b people lacking marketing skills offering products to general consumer - everything should be in plain sight in regards to process when dealing with general consumers.

checking out "how it works" page at bitinstant.com doesn't explain process very well at all:

How it works

BitInstant is the fastest and often easiest way to move your funds from one place to another

In a traditional transfer, your money moves from place to place, costing time each step of the way. Our solution is simple: we keep balances within each of these payment networks. As soon as we see your payment from one network, we can credit you instantly on another.

Select below for a tutorial

well, "tutorial" only has select options for "pay from" and "pay to" and couple of inputs for destination account and notification email address in what seem nonfunctional form. I don't see any tutorial there or explanations how it works exactly in terms what i should be doing. Also from this tutorial isn't clear what to use for 711/Walmart/CVS

A following explanation would pretty much clear how the process works:

- fill out simple form
- print a receipt
- take printed receipt to a store
- have a person at cash register scan the receipt (assuming that's what they will do) and pay the balance due
- when you get home, your money should be in account at selected destination ( roughly 30minutes)

done!

[siulynot]

And to who do i  talk to inside walmart?

[minimalB]

Please, come to europe!

Yes, please!

[Tuxavant]

EDIT: Fixed!

Printed the deposit receipt ok.. but on "return to merchant" I got a 404 of sorts. only text on page says "not found"

[Tuxavant]

potentially massively epic

Potentially? I think this definitively qualifies as massively epic... ESPECIALLY the part about going from Bitcoin to cash.

[Elwar]

I just realized...

Some stores only take cash. I have gone to several where they say "there's an ATM across the street...".

I could definitely see a store saying "we accept cash or Bitcoin". "There's a 7-11 next door..."

[Trader Steve]

Charlie,

Excellent job. A few recommendations on the following screens:



The "Cash Deposit" default option in window should read "Select One" so that the person can click on the drop down menu and pick their preferred method of payment.

Next:



"Destination Account" is confusing. I liked it when the pop up help window said "email address of recipient"

The way it reads now it leads me to believe I need to have a user name or account somewhere which creates confusion and friction in the process.

Here's a use case scenario that I want to use this for:

I have an online business.
I want bitcoin, my customer only has cash.
I instruct my customer to go to BitInstant.com and select "Cash Deposit to [take your pick]"
Customer enters my email address as the "Destination account"
Customer pays in cash and I get my bitcoin - SUCCESS!

What do you think?

[GroundRod]

Massively cool bits, thanks for all the efforts to bring this into existance!  Will be trying out the service next trip to the big city...

[brocktice]

So, for Wal-Mart, I should be choosing Cash Desposit? ZipZap? How does this even work? I assume there must be some pre-existing service at Wal-Mart and other stores where people already use this for something else?

EDIT: Apparently I had a javascript fail, or the site has been updated, because now it's quite clear.

EDIT2: Although now I'm getting an error from CashPayment.com and/or it's not loading.

[RodeoX]

Can someone walk my dumb a$$ through this? So, I go into Walmart and I do what now? 

I just want to be clear on the process as I'm sure the Walmart employee will not be.

Dumb a$$ #2 has same question(s).

BTW, this looks great, Yankee!

~Bruno~

All hail to Smart[phone] a$$ guru!


that the problem of b2b people lacking marketing skills offering products to general consumer - everything should be in plain sight in regards to process when dealing with general consumers.

checking out "how it works" page at bitinstant.com doesn't explain process very well at all:

How it works

BitInstant is the fastest and often easiest way to move your funds from one place to another

In a traditional transfer, your money moves from place to place, costing time each step of the way. Our solution is simple: we keep balances within each of these payment networks. As soon as we see your payment from one network, we can credit you instantly on another.

Select below for a tutorial

well, "tutorial" only has select options for "pay from" and "pay to" and couple of inputs for destination account and notification email address in what seem nonfunctional form. I don't see any tutorial there or explanations how it works exactly in terms what i should be doing. Also from this tutorial isn't clear what to use for 711/Walmart/CVS

A following explanation would pretty much clear how the process works:

- fill out simple form
- print a receipt
- take printed receipt to a store
- have a person at cash register scan the receipt (assuming that's what they will do) and pay the balance due
- when you get home, your money should be in account at selected destination ( roughly 30minutes)

done!

Thanks serge! That does clear it up for me. So, I need money and a receipt from bitinstant.  I'm going to try this on my way home tonight!

[teste]

Hi, I think something is wrong, see:

1- I buy 100 dollars
2- Will receive 96,1 because the 3,99 fee
3- 100 dollars is 207 Reais
4- Why on boleto I need to pay 215 Reais? Should be 207

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

So, for Wal-Mart, I should be choosing Cash Desposit? ZipZap? How does this even work? I assume there must be some pre-existing service at Wal-Mart and other stores where people already use this for something else?

EDIT: Apparently I had a javascript fail, or the site has been updated, because now it's quite clear.

EDIT2: Although now I'm getting an error from CashPayment.com and/or it's not loading.

Can you be more specific please?

Charlie,

Excellent job. A few recommendations on the following screens:

The "Cash Deposit" default option in window should read "Select One" so that the person can click on the drop down menu and pick their preferred method of payment.

Next:

"Destination Account" is confusing. I liked it when the pop up help window said "email address of recipient"

The way it reads now it leads me to believe I need to have a user name or account somewhere which creates confusion and friction in the process.

Here's a use case scenario that I want to use this for:

I have an online business.
I want bitcoin, my customer only has cash.
I instruct my customer to go to BitInstant.com and select "Cash Deposit to [take your pick]"
Customer enters my email address as the "Destination account"
Customer pays in cash and I get my bitcoin - SUCCESS!

What do you think?

Hey, thanks!!!

OK,  

The "Cash Deposit" default option in window should read "Select One" so that the person can click on the drop down menu and pick their preferred method of payment.
--> GREAT idea, we will implement that right now

"Destination Account" is confusing. I liked it when the pop up help window said "email address of recipient"

--> We're gonna make the "Destination Account" disappear when you choose 'Bitcoin to Email' and notify email will just say 'Email Address or Mobile Number' which should be simple.

Cool?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Hi, I think something is wrong, see:

1- I buy 100 dollars
2- Will receive 96,1 because the 3,99 fee
3- 100 dollars is 207 Reais
4- Why on boleto I need to pay 215 Reais? Should be 207

Our devs recently made some changes to the integration with Brazil, and there appears to be a display issue regarding that. If you complete the transaction, the boleto (payment slip) says R$217.37 for a USD $100 transaction, which is the correct amount. We are working on fixing the wrong number showing in the checkout screen and it should be fixed shortly within a few days.

[teste]

Sorry but maybe I'm missing something

100 dollars converted to Real is 207 Reais.
Why 217 on boleto?

[brocktice]

EDIT2: Although now I'm getting an error from CashPayment.com and/or it's not loading.

Can you be more specific please?

Well I had intended to but I couldn't get the error to come back up, because the CashPayment.com site wasn't even loading. But now it seems to be working, so maybe it was a momentary glitch or something. I look forward to trying this out.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Sorry but maybe I'm missing something

96,1 dollars converted to Real is 207 Reais.
Why 217 on boleto?

Boleto charges $3.95 on some orders.

EDIT2: Although now I'm getting an error from CashPayment.com and/or it's not loading.

Can you be more specific please?

Well I had intended to but I couldn't get the error to come back up, because the CashPayment.com site wasn't even loading. But now it seems to be working, so maybe it was a momentary glitch or something. I look forward to trying this out.

Alright thanks!

[teste]

I meant 100 dollars converted to Real is 207 Reais. Not 96,1.
Hum, 3,95 from boleto. Bad to know.

I think on quote cash transaction page should be listed the boleto "fee".

[jco]

I just downloaded the payment slip from the site, but it also says: Click "Create Payment Slip" to have your slip downloaded to your computer for printing and sent to the email address provided above.  However, I didn't receive an e-mail and my e-mail address isn't listed on that page.  Should I be concerned?  I want to make sure the coins go to my email address.  (using cash -> coinapult)

When I click 'Return to merchant' I get a page that just displays 'not found'

[brocktice]

I just downloaded the payment slip from the site, but it also says: Click "Create Payment Slip" to have your slip downloaded to your computer for printing and sent to the email address provided above.  However, I didn't receive an e-mail and my e-mail address isn't listed on that page.  Should I be concerned?  I want to make sure the coins go to my email address.  (using cash -> coinapult)

When I click 'Return to merchant' I get a page that just displays 'not found'

I had this for wal-mart ->mtgox as well. I have the slip but never got an email.

[jco]

I just downloaded the payment slip from the site, but it also says: Click "Create Payment Slip" to have your slip downloaded to your computer for printing and sent to the email address provided above.  However, I didn't receive an e-mail and my e-mail address isn't listed on that page.  Should I be concerned?  I want to make sure the coins go to my email address.  (using cash -> coinapult)

When I click 'Return to merchant' I get a page that just displays 'not found'

I had this for wal-mart ->mtgox as well. I have the slip but never got an email.

Have you payed for it yet?  I plan on waiting til I hear back.

[brocktice]

I just downloaded the payment slip from the site, but it also says: Click "Create Payment Slip" to have your slip downloaded to your computer for printing and sent to the email address provided above.  However, I didn't receive an e-mail and my e-mail address isn't listed on that page.  Should I be concerned?  I want to make sure the coins go to my email address.  (using cash -> coinapult)

When I click 'Return to merchant' I get a page that just displays 'not found'

I had this for wal-mart ->mtgox as well. I have the slip but never got an email.

Have you payed for it yet?  I plan on waiting til I hear back.

No, I'd have to drive 15 minutes to do it and I've got a busy day. I may not pay that particular slip at all, but I would like to do this soon, because F dwolla.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I just downloaded the payment slip from the site, but it also says: Click "Create Payment Slip" to have your slip downloaded to your computer for printing and sent to the email address provided above.  However, I didn't receive an e-mail and my e-mail address isn't listed on that page.  Should I be concerned?  I want to make sure the coins go to my email address.  (using cash -> coinapult)

When I click 'Return to merchant' I get a page that just displays 'not found'

I had this for wal-mart ->mtgox as well. I have the slip but never got an email.

Have you payed for it yet?  I plan on waiting til I hear back.

No, I'd have to drive 15 minutes to do it and I've got a busy day. I may not pay that particular slip at all, but I would like to do this soon, because F dwolla.

As long as the slip was created and you have it you are good to go.

The return to merchant and email slip is a simple glitch we are fixing now.

Your quotes are in the system, we've already processed a dozen or so orders today

[jco]

I just downloaded the payment slip from the site, but it also says: Click "Create Payment Slip" to have your slip downloaded to your computer for printing and sent to the email address provided above.  However, I didn't receive an e-mail and my e-mail address isn't listed on that page.  Should I be concerned?  I want to make sure the coins go to my email address.  (using cash -> coinapult)

When I click 'Return to merchant' I get a page that just displays 'not found'

I had this for wal-mart ->mtgox as well. I have the slip but never got an email.

Have you payed for it yet?  I plan on waiting til I hear back.

No, I'd have to drive 15 minutes to do it and I've got a busy day. I may not pay that particular slip at all, but I would like to do this soon, because F dwolla.

As long as the slip was created and you have it you are good to go.

The return to merchant and email slip is a simple glitch we are fixing now.

Your quotes are in the system, we've already processed a dozen or so orders today

Cool, thanks for the quick reply!

[BCB]

FYI

Just returned from MoneyGram
Had to call a phone
Selected Amount and MAKE PAYMENT option
Was connected to a REP in Manilla.
Gave my Phone, Name Mailing Address on a recorded call
Gave Receive Code (from Printout)
Gave Account Number  (from Printout)
Was told to go to clerk to make payment.

Clerk couldn't find payment in the machine at the counter.  Was told to call again.

Called again.

MoneyGram found existing order and deleted it.

Repeated entire process. 

Clerk still had no data on the counter terminal.

MoneyGram rep on the phone said it must be the recipient  not receiving the request??

Abandoned.

Could have been Local Vender->MoneyGram->ZipZap->BitInstant??

Are your servers overloaded?

Just curious

[RodeoX]

Here is what I did.
I went to bitinstant.com and followed the screens through trustcash.com. After printing my payment slip I drove it to the nearest location (Wells Fargo). I gave them the exact amount for the transfer, and after a few puzzled looks from the teller she did the transfer.
That was at 2:05pm. I will update this post when the cash arrives.

EDIT: BAM! 2:19pm and I'm in the money. No ID, no delay, no hassles. This is how I will get coins in the future.

[LightRider]

This is seriously awesome. I wonder how long the establishment will tolerate you leveraging their ancient and hard won infrastructure to beat them at their own corrupt game.

[siulynot]

Is ZipZap a new service??? If i go to walmart or moneygram they will know what i say to them if i mention ZipZap?

[BCB]

ZIP ZAP is the agent that connects all the MSB's to Bitinstant (I think).

[evoorhees]

Is ZipZap a new service??? If i go to walmart or moneygram they will know what i say to them if i mention ZipZap?

Go through the process on the BitInstant and then ZipZap site. You will be given specific instructions how to complete the payment at the store. Try it, it works

[LightRider]

No word about this major development on http://www.zipzapinc.com/ yet though. I wonder if they aren't all that eager to promote an even newer new payment network.

[Maged]

Mother of God. I can literally pull money from my bank account and convert that money to Bitcoins in the same building. And that building is just two blocks away from where I live.

I never thought that I would see the day...

[Trader Steve]

This is seriously awesome. I wonder how long the establishment will tolerate you leveraging their ancient and hard won infrastructure to beat them at their own corrupt game.

 

[Piper67]

Is it me, or has it just become easier to do a money transfer through Bitinstant with BTC than it is through Western Union with USD?

[Gareth Nelson]

Here is what I did.
I went to bitinstant.com and followed the screens through trustcash.com. After printing my payment slip I drove it to the nearest location (Wells Fargo). I gave them the exact amount for the transfer, and after a few puzzled looks from the teller she did the transfer.
That was at 2:05pm. I will update this post when the cash arrives.

EDIT: BAM! 2:19pm and I'm in the money. No ID, no delay, no hassles. This is how I will get coins in the future.

Now this kind of thing is why we do what we do, thanks for the business

With regards to some of the misc bugs people have reported, most have been patched now, as you can probably imagine demand for a new service can be very high and we sometimes get a few glitches popping up. If anyone finds any issues that haven't been resolved already please email support@bitinstant.com and provide as much detail as possible. We're famous now for our rapid support responses.

[Trader Steve]

Here is what I did.
I went to bitinstant.com and followed the screens through trustcash.com. After printing my payment slip I drove it to the nearest location (Wells Fargo). I gave them the exact amount for the transfer, and after a few puzzled looks from the teller she did the transfer.
That was at 2:05pm. I will update this post when the cash arrives.

EDIT: BAM! 2:19pm and I'm in the money. No ID, no delay, no hassles. This is how I will get coins in the future.

Now this kind of thing is why we do what we do, thanks for the business

With regards to some of the misc bugs people have reported, most have been patched now, as you can probably imagine demand for a new service can be very high and we sometimes get a few glitches popping up. If anyone finds any issues that haven't been resolved already please email support@bitinstant.com and provide as much detail as possible. We're famous now for our rapid support responses.

You still need something next to the "Cash Deposit" default option to let people know that there are multiple choices for cash deposit - many people won't know to click the down arrow to see their choices. How about "Select One" or "Cash Deposit - Select One"? They might just leave the "Cash Deposit" field in the default position without specifying. Maybe you could have a prompt for them if they don't make a specific selection?

[Gareth Nelson]

Here is what I did.
I went to bitinstant.com and followed the screens through trustcash.com. After printing my payment slip I drove it to the nearest location (Wells Fargo). I gave them the exact amount for the transfer, and after a few puzzled looks from the teller she did the transfer.
That was at 2:05pm. I will update this post when the cash arrives.

EDIT: BAM! 2:19pm and I'm in the money. No ID, no delay, no hassles. This is how I will get coins in the future.

Now this kind of thing is why we do what we do, thanks for the business

With regards to some of the misc bugs people have reported, most have been patched now, as you can probably imagine demand for a new service can be very high and we sometimes get a few glitches popping up. If anyone finds any issues that haven't been resolved already please email support@bitinstant.com and provide as much detail as possible. We're famous now for our rapid support responses.

You still need something next to the "Cash Deposit" default option to let people know that there are multiple choices for cash deposit - many people won't know to click the down arrow to see their choices. How about "Select One" or "Cash Deposit - Select One"? They might just leave the "Cash Deposit" field in the default position without specifying. Maybe you could have a prompt for them if they don't make a specific selection?

About to change this now

[Trader Steve]

Maybe put the "go" button first so you don't have to scroll down to find it. Maybe slightly bigger too (not as big as the giant green button you had before - but green is still a good color):

[weex]

I used the service and bitinstant's part of it was very fast. I think less than 5 minutes from the time I got my reference # from the cashier to the time the funds were in my mtgox account.

At CVS where I went, the moneygram part of the process had a small learning curve. When I got there, the cashier looked at it for a moment, tried to pull up the transaction and said to use the red moneygram phone. This phone has a kiosk # that moneygram uses to put the transaction on the store's list of active transactions. Moneygram asked for my name and address and the receive number and activated the transaction so the cashier could see it. I then went to the cashier who checked my id. So not really anonymous but then again once I have coins I guess it's up to me how anonymous I want to be in spending.

The amount was a little confusing because zipzap adds $3.95 but also writes the original amount that I typed into Bitinstant. Out of mutual caution between myself and the cashier we decided to go for the full amount. I'm not sure what would happen if we went for the original amount. Either way I knew I needed to pay the leave the store minus the full amount with fee included.

So I would probably use the bank deposit feature if possible but for folks in the boonies who had to previously buy a moneypak and go on -otc this is going to reduce the hassle quite a bit.

I plan to keep this USD as a balance to use to pay for things with BTC as needed. Like hosting, tchotchkies, bounties, and little gigs.

[teste]

Hi,

1- Why not publish boleto fee on quote cash transaction window?

[Gareth Nelson]

Maybe put the "go" button first so you don't have to scroll down to find it. Maybe slightly bigger too (not as big as the giant green button you had before - but green is still a good color):

Will need to look at a few other design changes on that quote page too so this might not happen straight away.

Thanks for the feedback

[DeathAndTaxes]

I then went to the cashier who checked my id. So not really anonymous but then again once I have coins I guess it's up to me how anonymous I want to be in spending.

IIRC Moneygram asks ID for tx over a certain threshold.  The cashier is just playing "dumb robot".  The terminal either asks for ID and he/she enters it or it doesn't.

[Gareth Nelson]

Hi,

1- Why not publish boleto fee on quote cash transaction window?

Generally we don't know the fees charged after it gets passed to zipzap but I will ask them about how to obtain this data.

[Gareth Nelson]

I used the service and bitinstant's part of it was very fast. I think less than 5 minutes from the time I got my reference # from the cashier to the time the funds were in my mtgox account.

At CVS where I went, the moneygram part of the process had a small learning curve. When I got there, the cashier looked at it for a moment, tried to pull up the transaction and said to use the red moneygram phone. This phone has a kiosk # that moneygram uses to put the transaction on the store's list of active transactions. Moneygram asked for my name and address and the receive number and activated the transaction so the cashier could see it. I then went to the cashier who checked my id. So not really anonymous but then again once I have coins I guess it's up to me how anonymous I want to be in spending.

The amount was a little confusing because zipzap adds $3.95 but also writes the original amount that I typed into Bitinstant. Out of mutual caution between myself and the cashier we decided to go for the full amount. I'm not sure what would happen if we went for the original amount. Either way I knew I needed to pay the leave the store minus the full amount with fee included.

So I would probably use the bank deposit feature if possible but for folks in the boonies who had to previously buy a moneypak and go on -otc this is going to reduce the hassle quite a bit.

I plan to keep this USD as a balance to use to pay for things with BTC as needed. Like hosting, tchotchkies, bounties, and little gigs.

My guess is if you paid the lower amount the transaction wouldn't be automatically detected and we'd need to manually clear it for you.

[Trader Steve]

Maybe put the "go" button first so you don't have to scroll down to find it. Maybe slightly bigger too (not as big as the giant green button you had before - but green is still a good color):

Will need to look at a few other design changes on that quote page too so this might not happen straight away.

Thanks for the feedback

Excellent! Eliminating the need to scroll down in order to find the "go" button would be nice because it is not currently intuitive (or easy) for the uninitiated to figure out what to do next.

[Trader Steve]

When a customer selects "bitcoin to email" the screen should automatically change from this:



To this:



Currently, it is only changed AFTER the customer starts entering data and then it asks for a different data set.

Also, "Email address or mobile number" should be changed to "Destination email address or mobile number"

And lastly, did you do away with the "notification email address" or is that entered somewhere else now?

BTW, great job!

[Gareth Nelson]

When a customer selects "bitcoin to email" the screen should automatically change from this:



To this:



Currently, it is only changed AFTER the customer starts entering data and then it asks for a different data set.

Also, "Email address or mobile number" should be changed to "Destination email address or mobile number"

And lastly, did you do away with the "notification email address" or is that entered somewhere else now?

BTW, great job!

Working on that one, the notification email address is now the sole field for bitcoin to email (destination account is actually ignored for that one).

[teste]

1- Hi, why do I still see the message of 1 dollar fee for payment service?
If I go to buy 100 dollars, the quote cash window say I'll receive 95,1. Should be 96,1

2- I think the boleto fee of 3,95 dollar very expensive. Is anything being done to have a cheaper fee?

[Maria]

We just came from Walmart Puerto Rico. By the time we drove back home our transaction was complete.

This news from Charlie Shrem was the fresh air this community needed after all the bad taste others have left us. Charlie 1+

Maria.

[Gareth Nelson]

1- Hi, why do I still see the message of 1 dollar fee for payment service?

This was an oversight - the old cash quote page was used as a template

If I go to buy 100 dollars, the quote cash window say I'll receive 95,1. Should be 96,1

Is this on the homepage or after clicking the "send funds" button and getting the quote page?

2- I think the boleto fee of 3,95 dollar very expensive. Is anything being done to have a cheaper fee?

We are always trying to negotiate better fees with our partners, but as our relationship with zipzap has just started they may not be willing to lower fees just yet and some fees may be outside of both their and our control.

[SgtSpike]

Very cool!  I'm going to have to give this a try just to give this a try, then promote it to other people. 

[teste]

On quote page

[jco]

Wow.  Perfect service.  Went through CVS and paid the 3.95 moneygram fee and received my bitcoins via email almost instantly.  Highly recommend.  This dude's about to get lots of my money

[siulynot]

ok, i just made the payment at walmart money center using the blue money gram slip. This is what Puerto Rico needed!! thanks a lot! i think the community will grow here.

[Maria]

ok, i just made the payment at walmart money center using the blue money gram slip. This is what Puerto Rico needed!! thanks a lot! i think the community will grow here.

PUERTO RICO NUMERO #1 PUñETAAAA!!

Carolina en la casa!!!

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

ok, i just made the payment at walmart money center using the blue money gram slip. This is what Puerto Rico needed!! thanks a lot! i think the community will grow here.

PUERTO RICO NUMERO #1 PUñETAAAA!!

Carolina en la casa!!!

Your welcome

[bb113]

Congratulations to Charlie and the rest of the BitInstant Team!  If you've never used BitInstant, you should give it shot.  It is, by far, the easiest and fastest way to convert cash to coins.  Go BitInstant!

Also, for those in the US who may not be aware... you don't have to physically go to one of their participating locations if you have an account with one of the 4 banks they support.  If you have a Chase account, you can make your deposit online by initiating a funds transfer from your account to the account # listed on the invoice.  Same for BOA, Wells Fargo, and Citi.  

I tried to transfer from BOA online and it asked for a recipient zip code (which is unprovided) and wouldn't allow commas or periods in the name of the recipient which was supposedly TCASH ADS, Inc.

[Gareth Nelson]

Congratulations to Charlie and the rest of the BitInstant Team!  If you've never used BitInstant, you should give it shot.  It is, by far, the easiest and fastest way to convert cash to coins.  Go BitInstant!

Also, for those in the US who may not be aware... you don't have to physically go to one of their participating locations if you have an account with one of the 4 banks they support.  If you have a Chase account, you can make your deposit online by initiating a funds transfer from your account to the account # listed on the invoice.  Same for BOA, Wells Fargo, and Citi.  

I tried to transfer from BOA online and it asked for a recipient zip code (which is unprovided) and wouldn't allow commas or periods in the name of the recipient which was supposedly TCASH ADS, Inc.

Officially that's not supported, but you could try skipping the comma and using these details for the address:
http://www.trustcash.com/contact-us/

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Congratulations to Charlie and the rest of the BitInstant Team!  If you've never used BitInstant, you should give it shot.  It is, by far, the easiest and fastest way to convert cash to coins.  Go BitInstant!

Also, for those in the US who may not be aware... you don't have to physically go to one of their participating locations if you have an account with one of the 4 banks they support.  If you have a Chase account, you can make your deposit online by initiating a funds transfer from your account to the account # listed on the invoice.  Same for BOA, Wells Fargo, and Citi.  

I tried to transfer from BOA online and it asked for a recipient zip code (which is unprovided) and wouldn't allow commas or periods in the name of the recipient which was supposedly TCASH ADS, Inc.

Love the new avatar btw

[bb113]

Congratulations to Charlie and the rest of the BitInstant Team!  If you've never used BitInstant, you should give it shot.  It is, by far, the easiest and fastest way to convert cash to coins.  Go BitInstant!

Also, for those in the US who may not be aware... you don't have to physically go to one of their participating locations if you have an account with one of the 4 banks they support.  If you have a Chase account, you can make your deposit online by initiating a funds transfer from your account to the account # listed on the invoice.  Same for BOA, Wells Fargo, and Citi.  

I tried to transfer from BOA online and it asked for a recipient zip code (which is unprovided) and wouldn't allow commas or periods in the name of the recipient which was supposedly TCASH ADS, Inc.

Officially that's not supported, but you could try skipping the comma and using these details for the address:
http://www.trustcash.com/contact-us/

Didn't work. The error message said they couldn't match the account info. There was also this note (not specific to the error):

Note: Business accounts and Military Bank customer accounts cannot be set up to receive funds.

[bb113]

Congratulations to Charlie and the rest of the BitInstant Team!  If you've never used BitInstant, you should give it shot.  It is, by far, the easiest and fastest way to convert cash to coins.  Go BitInstant!

Also, for those in the US who may not be aware... you don't have to physically go to one of their participating locations if you have an account with one of the 4 banks they support.  If you have a Chase account, you can make your deposit online by initiating a funds transfer from your account to the account # listed on the invoice.  Same for BOA, Wells Fargo, and Citi.  

I tried to transfer from BOA online and it asked for a recipient zip code (which is unprovided) and wouldn't allow commas or periods in the name of the recipient which was supposedly TCASH ADS, Inc.

Love the new avatar btw

Phinneaus gave me guff for not having one, so... there it is. It was awhile ago though.

[bb113]

Congratulations to Charlie and the rest of the BitInstant Team!  If you've never used BitInstant, you should give it shot.  It is, by far, the easiest and fastest way to convert cash to coins.  Go BitInstant!

Also, for those in the US who may not be aware... you don't have to physically go to one of their participating locations if you have an account with one of the 4 banks they support.  If you have a Chase account, you can make your deposit online by initiating a funds transfer from your account to the account # listed on the invoice.  Same for BOA, Wells Fargo, and Citi.  

I tried to transfer from BOA online and it asked for a recipient zip code (which is unprovided) and wouldn't allow commas or periods in the name of the recipient which was supposedly TCASH ADS, Inc.

Love the new avatar btw

Phinneaus gave me guff for not having one, so... there it is. It was awhile ago though.

Unless you thought I was him because you just checked the avatar haha.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Congratulations to Charlie and the rest of the BitInstant Team!  If you've never used BitInstant, you should give it shot.  It is, by far, the easiest and fastest way to convert cash to coins.  Go BitInstant!

Also, for those in the US who may not be aware... you don't have to physically go to one of their participating locations if you have an account with one of the 4 banks they support.  If you have a Chase account, you can make your deposit online by initiating a funds transfer from your account to the account # listed on the invoice.  Same for BOA, Wells Fargo, and Citi.  

I tried to transfer from BOA online and it asked for a recipient zip code (which is unprovided) and wouldn't allow commas or periods in the name of the recipient which was supposedly TCASH ADS, Inc.

Love the new avatar btw

Phinneaus gave me guff for not having one, so... there it is. It was awhile ago though.

Unless you thought I was him because you just checked the avatar haha.

^ true story 

[bearbones]

Didn't work. The error message said they couldn't match the account info. There was also this note (not specific to the error):

Note: Business accounts and Military Bank customer accounts cannot be set up to receive funds.

Bank fail.

[Jan]

One word: Awesome!

I simply had to try this out, so here is my review.

Step 1: On The Web
- Went to bitinstant.com
- Chose Cash --> CVS to MtGox
- Entered my mtgox account number (you can see it when logging into mtgox, I think you can use your mtgox username as well)
- Entered 100 USD
- Entered my email address
- web page says: You Receive 96.01 USD
- Click Send funds
- You get to review what you entered
- Click Go!
- I get redirected to https://www.cashpayment.com/Public/CashOrder, where my current location is prefilled (in my case Mountain View CA) and I see a map with 14 stores within 5 miles.
- I chose CVS at 850 California Street
- Click Create Payment Slip, and my browser downloads a pfd file, which i print out

This took about 1 minute

The 1 page document contains the address of the store, some instructions, a bunch of labeled numbers, and some logos. It occurs to me that I have to pay USD 103.95 for my USD 100 transfer.

Step 2: At The Store
- The instructions mention a red phone... In the store there happens to be a red phone... I pick it up
- The phone auto dials a number and I get connected to a robo-voice asking me to enter a number which I find on the table next to the phone. Now it knows which store I am in.
- The robo-voice asks a number of questions (don't remember the exact order), and I specify that I want to pay a bill by typing on the phone, enter the amount to pay (103.95 from the pdf), enter the receive code 9611 (from the pdf), and eventually I am told that I will get redirected to a human.
- This never happens, and after a minute or so I hang up and start over.
- I go through the process again, and this time I get connected to an operator.
- I confirm the amount to pay, tell the account number (from the pdf), tell my name and address.
- The operator says that I am all set, and can go to the counter in the store and say that I want to make an express payment.
- At the counter I say that I want to do an express payment using Money Gram.
- She asks what the amount is and what my name is, and asks for ID.
- I show her my Danish drivers license. She briefly looks at it and I pay her USD 104 and get back my 5 cents and a receipt.

This took about 5 minutes

Step 3: After Math
- I receive an email from support@bitinstant.com shortly after. Actually the time on my receipt says 4:03 PM and I received the email 4:02. That's really fast  The mail confirms that I have received USD 95.01 in my mtgox account.
- Logging into my mtgox account I find USD 96.01 there, and since I am pretty sure that I did not have any funds there I guess that the email should have said USD 96.01 instead of 95.01.
- Anyway... I purchase BTC 18.69981974 and send them to my wallet.

This took about 1 minute

All in all I paid USD 103.95 for USD 96.01 worth of BTC at the current market price.

Will I do it again?
Absolutely

 

[Narydu]

There is a russian kiwi netwotk in argentina...

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

There is a russian kiwi netwotk in argentina...

Really? Can you try it out? Im eager to know if that will work

[da2ce7]

This is so good!  We need it in Australia! 

[FreeMoney]

All in all I paid USD 103.95 for USD 96.01 worth of BTC at the current market price.

Will I do it again?
Absolutely
 

When is it ~7%? Is it always ~4% in US?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

All in all I paid USD 103.95 for USD 96.01 worth of BTC at the current market price.

Will I do it again?
Absolutely
 

When is it ~7%? Is it always ~4% in US?

It's always 3.99% but for some transfers (Moneygram I believe) Zipzap charges an extra $3.95

[teste]

So why on Brazil don't you use moneygram instead of  zipzap?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

So why on Brazil don't you use moneygram instead of  zipzap?

You mean why don't we use Moneygram instead of Boleto?

You can!

[teste]

How?

[teste]

If I select Brazil flag, I don't see moneygram option

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

If I select Brazil flag, I don't see moneygram option

Maybe not then. However the fee's are the same

[boonies4u]

All in all I paid USD 103.95 for USD 96.01 worth of BTC at the current market price.

Will I do it again?
Absolutely
 

When is it ~7%? Is it always ~4% in US?

It's always 3.99% but for some transfers (Moneygram I believe) Zipzap charges an extra $3.95

Does CVS, 7-11, and Walmart all use Moneygram? If I get stuck with a $3.95 fee, it looks like it would actually be cheaper to deposit at a bank, unless I sent a very large amount.

[proudhon]

Maybe tomorrow I'll give it a go with some of the money I'm going to use to buy back what is more and more looking like bitcoins I won't ever be getting back from Bitcoinica or Bitcoinica Consultancy or Amir Taaki or the mysterious Owner.

[dooglus]

Honestly the best way to learn is to do it with $20 and see how easy it is. Go through the process on BitInstant.com, and you'll see all the instructions you need.

I tried it.  I selected 'walmart' and 'to email' options, and tried depositing $20:

It says I'm going to get $19.20 for my $20.  A 4% fee.  Seems good:



It asks me for a 4 digit PIN, then tells me I'm going to receive $18.20 for my $20.  A 9% fee.  What happened there?

Oh, and it also tells me there will be a further 1% fee for the USD to BTC conversion.  So that's a nice round 10% fee in total.



Then when I get the voucher to print, it turns out I have to pay $23.95 (a convenience fee of $3.95 has been added):



That makes a total fee of exactly 25%.  I pay $23.95 to get $18.202 and then have to pay an extra 1% on top of that for the conversion.

I wonder if there's some way of presenting the true cost up front, and making the fees clearer.  It seems, for instance, that I end up getting more money if I deposit $99.99 than if I deposit $100, because the rate goes up 1% at $100.  But the only way of finding that out is by trial and error.  I'd like to see the fee structure spelled out clearly.

[Nunud]

Sooooooo... Europe then?! (and France in particular  )

What's the agenda like?

[dooglus]

--> We're gonna make the "Destination Account" disappear when you choose 'Bitcoin to Email' and notify email will just say 'Email Address or Mobile Number' which should be simple.

Cool?

Cool.

I noticed it disappears if I select 'bitcoin to email' AND THEN edit the 'amount' field.  But the 'destination' field is before the amount field, so it doesn't disappear until after I've become confused by its presence.

Also, it doesn't reappear if I switch back to 'mtgox' or anything else.

[dmatthewstewart]

Thank you. I will be trying this over the weekend. Im excited! I am in the 7-11 at least once per day

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Honestly the best way to learn is to do it with $20 and see how easy it is. Go through the process on BitInstant.com, and you'll see all the instructions you need.

I tried it.  I selected 'walmart' and 'to email' options, and tried depositing $20:

It says I'm going to get $19.20 for my $20.  A 4% fee.  Seems good:

It asks me for a 4 digit PIN, then tells me I'm going to receive $18.20 for my $20.  A 9% fee.  What happened there?

Oh, and it also tells me there will be a further 1% fee for the USD to BTC conversion.  So that's a nice round 10% fee in total.

Then when I get the voucher to print, it turns out I have to pay $23.95 (a convenience fee of $3.95 has been added):

That makes a total fee of exactly 25%.  I pay $23.95 to get $18.202 and then have to pay an extra 1% on top of that for the conversion.

I wonder if there's some way of presenting the true cost up front, and making the fees clearer.  It seems, for instance, that I end up getting more money if I deposit $99.99 than if I deposit $100, because the rate goes up 1% at $100.  But the only way of finding that out is by trial and error.  I'd like to see the fee structure spelled out clearly.

The rate is a flat 3.99% all around. When you do 'Bitcoin to email' coinapult charges an extra 1% for the conversion and trading fee which we clearly display in orange on the next page.

For some transfers, zipzap adds $3.95 fee on it. So yes, when doing $20 it may seem $5 is too hefty, but on $500 its alot less.

[Nunud]

Why are questions about Europe being systematically ignored? 

[Gareth Nelson]

Why are questions about Europe being systematically ignored? 

Apologies!

I myself live in europe (UK in particular) and we do have plans in this area, but nothing is in place yet. We're looking to get something in the UK over the next few months and wider EU at some point over the next year.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Why are questions about Europe being systematically ignored? 

They are not!

I've said it 3-4 times in this thread that Europe, UK and Asia are our #1 priorty.

For licensing issues, Europe was a little harder to crack but we've already set up Bitinstant Europe Ltd and bank accounts for it.

-Charlie

[Nunud]

He he heeeeee! Thanks! 

The sooner the better! Hurry up guys please!

[bitdragon]

Bravo !
Every single day has major developments and this set the bar high for today !

[Nunud]

Bravo !
Every single day has major developments and this set the bar high for today !

Agreed! But if we could benefit from all this great stuff too, it would be even cooler! 

[mtminer]

Great job guys. This will fill one major hurdle in Bitcoin which is the difficulty in actually getting Bitcoins.

Thanks 

Now if we could have the opposite. Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

At least bit-pay can do a direct deposit of cash from BTC...

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

So we would be able to use your service to withdraw from Mt-gox to an US bank account?

Yup, or any bank account in 186 countries in 100 currencies 

Amazing work! Good news for a change!

[dancupid]

What does the 'other locations' option mean from the drop down?
Without knowing what it means why would anyone choose that option?
But very good work - just looking to give you input as a customer.

[Tuxavant]

I would like to see all those location options disappear at that step of the process... just choose "local cash deposit" and then when you get to the map, you'll see everything like walmarts, 7-11, cvs, whatever..

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I would like to see all those location options disappear at that step of the process... just choose "local cash deposit" and then when you get to the map, you'll see everything like walmarts, 7-11, cvs, whatever..

Eventually we may do that, but for now its better to have as much information on the main page.

[FreeMoney]

The fee page is not so useful. A lot of that info could be put in ranges and it would fit (I think in like 20% as much space or less). Ex: 100-110 fee 110-120 same fee 120-130 same fee is just taking up space. Combine similar imo.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

The fee page is not so useful. A lot of that info could be put in ranges and it would fit (I think in like 20% as much space or less). Ex: 100-110 fee 110-120 same fee 120-130 same fee is just taking up space. Combine similar imo.

The fee's page is old, and we have not updated it in a while. Its on our TO-DO

[Narydu]

There is a russian kiwi netwotk in argentina...

Really? Can you try it out? Im eager to know if that will work

Could but I don´t actually have an account with you nor know which aditional fees would I have! Any way I´m willing to help. Though I guess each country activates specific clients. The guys who brought it to Arg were students on my same Business School, I could try to contact them for you if needed.

[RodeoX]

I would like to see all those location options disappear at that step of the process... just choose "local cash deposit" and then when you get to the map, you'll see everything like walmarts, 7-11, cvs, whatever..

+1
The main consideration for me is proximity. If one cares about the vendor they can still choose from among the nearby options.

[teste]

Testing Bitinstant and would like answer for this:

1- "Tried" to buy 500 dollars with boleto (Brazil)
2-  I looked the value of Real and (1 dollar is = 2,05 Real).
3- Clicked send funds and then go.
4- Boleto say I need to pay 1044 Reais
So I ask:
If 500 x 2,05 = 1025
Boleto Fee: 3,95 x 2,05 = 8,09
1025 + 8,09 = 1033,09

Why Boleto is 1044 and not 1033,09?

Suggestion: I think on quote cash transaction should show the value used in the dollar/real conversion.

[RodeoX]

Testing Bitinstant and would like answer for this:

1- "Tried" to buy 500 dollars with boleto (Brazil)
2-  I looked the value of Real and (1 dollar is = 2,05 Real).
3- Clicked send funds and then go.
4- Boleto say I need to pay 1044 Reais
So I ask:
If 500 x 2,05 = 1025
Boleto Fee: 3,95 x 2,05 = 8,09
1025 + 8,09 = 1033,09

Why Boleto is 1044 and not 1033,09?

Suggestion: I think on quote cash transaction should show the value used in the dollar/real conversion.

A few pages back in this thread you will find others asking the same thing. It is apparently being looked at, and may be a bug related to how the real is calculated. If I understand correctly.

[teste]

Obs: I see 1044 on the cashpayment page and on Boleto generated too.

[boonies4u]

Honestly the best way to learn is to do it with $20 and see how easy it is. Go through the process on BitInstant.com, and you'll see all the instructions you need.

I tried it.  I selected 'walmart' and 'to email' options, and tried depositing $20:

It says I'm going to get $19.20 for my $20.  A 4% fee.  Seems good:

It asks me for a 4 digit PIN, then tells me I'm going to receive $18.20 for my $20.  A 9% fee.  What happened there?

Oh, and it also tells me there will be a further 1% fee for the USD to BTC conversion.  So that's a nice round 10% fee in total.

Then when I get the voucher to print, it turns out I have to pay $23.95 (a convenience fee of $3.95 has been added):

That makes a total fee of exactly 25%.  I pay $23.95 to get $18.202 and then have to pay an extra 1% on top of that for the conversion.

I wonder if there's some way of presenting the true cost up front, and making the fees clearer.  It seems, for instance, that I end up getting more money if I deposit $99.99 than if I deposit $100, because the rate goes up 1% at $100.  But the only way of finding that out is by trial and error.  I'd like to see the fee structure spelled out clearly.

The rate is a flat 3.99% all around. When you do 'Bitcoin to email' coinapult charges an extra 1% for the conversion and trading fee which we clearly display in orange on the next page.

For some transfers, zipzap adds $3.95 fee on it. So yes, when doing $20 it may seem $5 is too hefty, but on $500 its alot less.

Any tips on avoiding the 3.95 fee by ZipZap? I read earlier that it seems to be because of MoneyGram... Which locations use moneygram?

[jco]

Honestly the best way to learn is to do it with $20 and see how easy it is. Go through the process on BitInstant.com, and you'll see all the instructions you need.

I tried it.  I selected 'walmart' and 'to email' options, and tried depositing $20:

It says I'm going to get $19.20 for my $20.  A 4% fee.  Seems good:

It asks me for a 4 digit PIN, then tells me I'm going to receive $18.20 for my $20.  A 9% fee.  What happened there?

Oh, and it also tells me there will be a further 1% fee for the USD to BTC conversion.  So that's a nice round 10% fee in total.

Then when I get the voucher to print, it turns out I have to pay $23.95 (a convenience fee of $3.95 has been added):

That makes a total fee of exactly 25%.  I pay $23.95 to get $18.202 and then have to pay an extra 1% on top of that for the conversion.

I wonder if there's some way of presenting the true cost up front, and making the fees clearer.  It seems, for instance, that I end up getting more money if I deposit $99.99 than if I deposit $100, because the rate goes up 1% at $100.  But the only way of finding that out is by trial and error.  I'd like to see the fee structure spelled out clearly.

The rate is a flat 3.99% all around. When you do 'Bitcoin to email' coinapult charges an extra 1% for the conversion and trading fee which we clearly display in orange on the next page.

For some transfers, zipzap adds $3.95 fee on it. So yes, when doing $20 it may seem $5 is too hefty, but on $500 its alot less.

Any tips on avoiding the 3.95 fee by ZipZap? I read earlier that it seems to be because of MoneyGram... Which locations use moneygram?

I can verify that the CVS location uses Moneygram and charges the $3.95 fee

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Honestly the best way to learn is to do it with $20 and see how easy it is. Go through the process on BitInstant.com, and you'll see all the instructions you need.

I tried it.  I selected 'walmart' and 'to email' options, and tried depositing $20:

It says I'm going to get $19.20 for my $20.  A 4% fee.  Seems good:

It asks me for a 4 digit PIN, then tells me I'm going to receive $18.20 for my $20.  A 9% fee.  What happened there?

Oh, and it also tells me there will be a further 1% fee for the USD to BTC conversion.  So that's a nice round 10% fee in total.

Then when I get the voucher to print, it turns out I have to pay $23.95 (a convenience fee of $3.95 has been added):

That makes a total fee of exactly 25%.  I pay $23.95 to get $18.202 and then have to pay an extra 1% on top of that for the conversion.

I wonder if there's some way of presenting the true cost up front, and making the fees clearer.  It seems, for instance, that I end up getting more money if I deposit $99.99 than if I deposit $100, because the rate goes up 1% at $100.  But the only way of finding that out is by trial and error.  I'd like to see the fee structure spelled out clearly.

The rate is a flat 3.99% all around. When you do 'Bitcoin to email' coinapult charges an extra 1% for the conversion and trading fee which we clearly display in orange on the next page.

For some transfers, zipzap adds $3.95 fee on it. So yes, when doing $20 it may seem $5 is too hefty, but on $500 its alot less.

Any tips on avoiding the 3.95 fee by ZipZap? I read earlier that it seems to be because of MoneyGram... Which locations use moneygram?

I can verify that the CVS location uses Moneygram and charges the $3.95 fee

Just like TrustCash charges the extra $1.50, so does zipzap a little more.

As our volume increases I can negotiate better rates with them

[ThiagoCMC]

Hi!

 I'm from Brazil...

 I think it is kind of difficult to keep track of "QuoteID / OrderID" codes... If you not save it before clicking "Go!", at the https://www.bitinstant.com/start_tx web page....  

 From now, I'll "print to a PDF" every step...  

 I would like to use Bitinstant default web option called "Check Status" but, I can't find the required code to track my two transactions paid yesterday (14:00 -0300) using zipzap "boleto".

 I sent some e-mails to support@bitinstant.com but, the helper doesn't seem to know the answer of my question and he stops answering me for some reason...

 So, I need to sit and "wait in the dark"...?!

 Time IS money!

 Thanks in advance!

Cheers!
Thiago

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Hi!

 I'm from Brazil...

 I think it is kind of difficult to keep track of "QuoteID / OrderID" codes... If you not save it before clicking "Go!", at the https://www.bitinstant.com/start_tx web page....  

 From now, I'll "print to a PDF" every step...  

 I would like to use Bitinstant default web option called "Check Status" but, I can't find the required code to track my two transactions paid yesterday (14:00 -0300) using zipzap "boleto".

 I sent some e-mails to support@bitinstant.com but, the helper doesn't seem to know the answer of my question and he stops answering me for some reason...

 So, I need to sit and "wait in the dark"...?!

 Time IS money!

 Thanks in advance!

Cheers!
Thiago

Thiago, we have answered every email you have sent within 1 hour. Why do you say that?

When did we stop answering you?

Boleto is telling us your invoice was not paid, so I told you I have to call them for you.

Please don't say things in this forum that are not true!!!

Thanks

[ThiagoCMC]

Hi!

 I'm from Brazil...

 I think it is kind of difficult to keep track of "QuoteID / OrderID" codes... If you not save it before clicking "Go!", at the https://www.bitinstant.com/start_tx web page....  

 From now, I'll "print to a PDF" every step...  

 I would like to use Bitinstant default web option called "Check Status" but, I can't find the required code to track my two transactions paid yesterday (14:00 -0300) using zipzap "boleto".

 I sent some e-mails to support@bitinstant.com but, the helper doesn't seem to know the answer of my question and he stops answering me for some reason...

 So, I need to sit and "wait in the dark"...?!

 Time IS money!

 Thanks in advance!

Cheers!
Thiago

Thiago, we have answered every email you have sent within 1 hour. Why do you say that?

When did we stop answering you?

Boleto is telling us your invoice was not paid, so I told you I have to call them for you.

Please don't say things in this forum that are not true!!!

Thanks

Please, forgive me for my words.

Anyway, I'm sorry to say that, last answer took 18 hours to come... And it only come, I think, because I insisted and send another mail minutes ago... This it is not a big deal for me... But, it is not a lie too...

Again, I'm not trying to burn Bitinstant... I really like your service and I need it! So, lets work together to solve this... I think it is easy to follow... And I trust 100% you guys... Sorry if I was rude...

It is true, I do not pay for a lots of tests I made, I mean, a lots of "boletos" wasn't paid but, last two I made, was paid... I'm just a bit lost to find the respective "Quote ID"...   

Regards,
Thiago

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Hi!

 I'm from Brazil...

 I think it is kind of difficult to keep track of "QuoteID / OrderID" codes... If you not save it before clicking "Go!", at the https://www.bitinstant.com/start_tx web page....  

 From now, I'll "print to a PDF" every step...  

 I would like to use Bitinstant default web option called "Check Status" but, I can't find the required code to track my two transactions paid yesterday (14:00 -0300) using zipzap "boleto".

 I sent some e-mails to support@bitinstant.com but, the helper doesn't seem to know the answer of my question and he stops answering me for some reason...

 So, I need to sit and "wait in the dark"...?!

 Time IS money!

 Thanks in advance!

Cheers!
Thiago

Thiago, we have answered every email you have sent within 1 hour. Why do you say that?

When did we stop answering you?

Boleto is telling us your invoice was not paid, so I told you I have to call them for you.

Please don't say things in this forum that are not true!!!

Thanks

Please, forgive me for my words.

Anyway, I'm sorry to say that, last answer took 18 hours to come... And it only come, I think, because I insisted and send another mail minutes ago... This it is not a big deal for me... But, it is not a lie too...

Thiago, it took 18 hours because in my email before I said "Please wait because I have to get in touch with Boleto to find out the problem" Im not a magician I can't work in seconds.

[/quote]
Again, I'm not trying to burn Bitinstant... I really like your service and I need it! So, lets work together to solve this... I think it is easy to follow... And I trust 100% you guys... Sorry if I was rude...
[/quote]

I know your not, and we appreciate your business. Its just when you say things in this forum, people believe everything they read and then people will say we are scammers.

I sent you your Quote ID's and will let you know when the problem is resolved

Thanks

[ThiagoCMC]

Okay, you're right... I'll double my attention in what I write...

Sometimes it is hard for me to express myself in english...

I know that Bitinstant is a HUGE and a LEGITIMATE business.

Thanks!
Thiago

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Okay, you're right... I'll double my attention in what I write...

Sometimes it is hard for me to express myself in english...

I know that Bitinstant is a HUGE and a LEGITIMATE business.

Thanks!
Thiago

 

We are here to help you!!!

[teste]

Email sent to Zipzap

Hi,

1- I generated a boleto (not paid) on Bitinstant service with value of 1044,87 (número do documento 95155)
2- Then I received an email with subject ZipZap Action required, with the following info:
Amount to pay: 1022,77
Account number: 781570676

So I ask:

Why boleto is 1044,87 and on Zipzap action required email say 1022,77?

[teste]

Zipzap answer:

We are researching the reason for the different amount on the email but
the transaction appears in our system as 1044,87 so that is what you
should pay
We apologize for the confusion.

Thank you for using ZipZap.

ZipZap Customer Support

[steelhouse]

I tried to use this service today but I think I made a mistake.  I tried to get $103.95 of bitcoins.  But, when I talked to the guy on the phone, I deposited only $100.00.  thus zipzap rejected the payment.  Then I tried to get my money back but was put on hold 10 minutes before hanging up.   I went home and re-did the procedure.  After 15 minutes the guy answered and I got a number to get my money back.  To receive payment you have to give a photo id which I did not really like doing.  May try again in a couple days.

So in summary it would be nice if you lower the minimum amount to $100 that zipzap would accept that way we could just put a $100 bill in the machine.

[drrussellshane]

I was initially excited at the prospect of buying bitcoins at walmart, but if an ID is required, my enthusiasm is dampened.

Do all these CVS/walmart/7-11 type services require ID?

Does bitinstant accept cash-in-the-mail or money orders?

[steelhouse]

I was initially excited at the prospect of buying bitcoins at walmart, but if an ID is required, my enthusiasm is dampened.

Do all these CVS/walmart/7-11 type services require ID?

Does bitinstant accept cash-in-the-mail or money orders?

No id is needed to deposit.  Only if you screw up and send $100 instead of $103.95.  zipzap will reject and then you have to call moneygram to get your money back.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I was initially excited at the prospect of buying bitcoins at walmart, but if an ID is required, my enthusiasm is dampened.

Do all these CVS/walmart/7-11 type services require ID?

Does bitinstant accept cash-in-the-mail or money orders?

No id is needed to deposit.  Only if you screw up and send $100 instead of $103.95.  zipzap will reject and then you have to call moneygram to get your money back.

There is a small issue with Zipzap's system at the moment. Some vendors are screwing up in the process.

I assure you this glitch is a temporary one and will be sorted within a few days.

Specifically, this is reference to the connivence fee. We've had a majority of successful payments, this is a rare issue.

If you have any issues, please email support@bitinstant.com with 24/7 service as soon as possible or call our local ny number.

Thanks!

Charlie

[Jan]

From my experience with using the service at CVS:
When i do my registration of the payment with the "red phone" at CVS I tell some operator that i want to transfer some money to some account. I tell my name/address to the operator. After that i go to the counter to do the payment. They ask for ID to make sure that I am doing the right payment, and not the payment of some other random guy. This is for my protection. They just make sure that the names match. The clerk has no idea that this is a bitcoin purchase. So this is just plain pattern matching. Put away your tilfoil hats.

[LightRider]

connivence fee.

connivance
(redirected from connivence)

The furtive consent of one person to cooperate with another in the commission of an unlawful act or crime

Well that certainly doesn't sound good!

 

[boonies4u]

connivence fee.

connivance
(redirected from connivence)

The furtive consent of one person to cooperate with another in the commission of an unlawful act or crime

Well that certainly doesn't sound good!

 

I suppose it is better than no consent at all!

[RodeoX]

I was initially excited at the prospect of buying bitcoins at walmart, but if an ID is required, my enthusiasm is dampened.

Do all these CVS/walmart/7-11 type services require ID?

Does bitinstant accept cash-in-the-mail or money orders?

I did my transfer via western union and showed no ID.

[galambo]

I'm very surprised you support Brazil. From my understanding their tax system and regulations are complex.

http://www.doingbusiness.org/~/media/fpdkm/doing%20business/documents/annual-reports/english/db12-fullreport.pdf

I'm curious... Who is bitinstant? Did you have a great deal of experience in this business (transfering money) before you started bitinstant? Is bitinstant the same people as Trade Hill?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I'm very surprised you support Brazil. From my understanding their tax system and regulations are complex.

http://www.doingbusiness.org/~/media/fpdkm/doing%20business/documents/annual-reports/english/db12-fullreport.pdf

I'm curious... Who is bitinstant? Did you have a great deal of experience in this business (transfering money) before you started bitinstant? Is bitinstant the same people as Trade Hill?

Hey,

No, we are not the same people as TradeHill. We have been around for about a year.

Here is more info about us https://www.bitinstant.com/aboutus

To answer your question, yes I come from an economics and financial background with a degree in both. Every country we support we are in accordance with taxes and regulation.

Everyone in this forum knows us.

-Charlie

[galambo]

I'm very surprised you support Brazil. From my understanding their tax system and regulations are complex.

http://www.doingbusiness.org/~/media/fpdkm/doing%20business/documents/annual-reports/english/db12-fullreport.pdf

I'm curious... Who is bitinstant? Did you have a great deal of experience in this business (transfering money) before you started bitinstant? Is bitinstant the same people as Trade Hill?

Hey,

No, we are not the same people as TradeHill. We have been around for about a year.

Here is more info about us https://www.bitinstant.com/aboutus

To answer your question, yes I come from an economics and financial background with a degree in both. Every country we support we are in accordance with taxes and regulation.

Everyone in this forum knows us.

-Charlie

Sorry, I ask not because I am skeptical, but because you are setting a very good example for the rest of community.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I'm very surprised you support Brazil. From my understanding their tax system and regulations are complex.

http://www.doingbusiness.org/~/media/fpdkm/doing%20business/documents/annual-reports/english/db12-fullreport.pdf

I'm curious... Who is bitinstant? Did you have a great deal of experience in this business (transfering money) before you started bitinstant? Is bitinstant the same people as Trade Hill?

Hey,

No, we are not the same people as TradeHill. We have been around for about a year.

Here is more info about us https://www.bitinstant.com/aboutus

To answer your question, yes I come from an economics and financial background with a degree in both. Every country we support we are in accordance with taxes and regulation.

Everyone in this forum knows us.

-Charlie

Sorry, I ask not because I am skeptical, but because you are setting a very good example for the rest of community.

No reason to apologize  I like when people are skeptical

[ThiagoCMC]

I was initially excited at the prospect of buying bitcoins at walmart, but if an ID is required, my enthusiasm is dampened.

Do all these CVS/walmart/7-11 type services require ID?

Does bitinstant accept cash-in-the-mail or money orders?

No id is needed to deposit.  Only if you screw up and send $100 instead of $103.95.  zipzap will reject and then you have to call moneygram to get your money back.

There is a small issue with Zipzap's system at the moment. Some vendors are screwing up in the process.

I assure you this glitch is a temporary one and will be sorted within a few days.

Specifically, this is reference to the connivence fee. We've had a majority of successful payments, this is a rare issue.

If you have any issues, please email support@bitinstant.com with 24/7 service as soon as possible or call our local ny number.

Thanks!

Charlie

Charlie,

 I think that there is a huge issue with Zipzap's system, not small.

 Bitinstant is fine but, Zipzap does NOT have identified two of my payments, executed day 24... The money isn't in my bank account anymore, since day 24, of course... And Bitinstant does not receive anything from Zipzap yet...

 Also, Zipzap tells me by e-mail, on day 25, that my two "boletos" was expired! And I have the payment vouchers in hands... So, not identifying two payments is a huge issue, at least for me, it is...

 Anyway, the Bitinstant support (Charlie) is working with me to solve this and nothing bad will happen, I'm sure.

 Keep the good work @ Bitinstant!

 Can I try it again tomorrow?! Making a new Zipzap "boleto"?

 I hope Zipzap works this time. Charlie, do you think that it is safe to use Zipzap again? Or it is better to wait a couple days?!

 Also, Bitinstant is doing a "lowercase" at the string of the destination account logins!! If the exchange require a "case sensitive" login to identify its users, this will be a problem too.

Best,
Thiago

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I was initially excited at the prospect of buying bitcoins at walmart, but if an ID is required, my enthusiasm is dampened.

Do all these CVS/walmart/7-11 type services require ID?

Does bitinstant accept cash-in-the-mail or money orders?

No id is needed to deposit.  Only if you screw up and send $100 instead of $103.95.  zipzap will reject and then you have to call moneygram to get your money back.

There is a small issue with Zipzap's system at the moment. Some vendors are screwing up in the process.

I assure you this glitch is a temporary one and will be sorted within a few days.

Specifically, this is reference to the connivence fee. We've had a majority of successful payments, this is a rare issue.

If you have any issues, please email support@bitinstant.com with 24/7 service as soon as possible or call our local ny number.

Thanks!

Charlie

Charlie,

 I think that there is a huge issue with Zipzap's system, not small.

 Bitinstant is fine but, Zipzap does NOT have identified two of my payments, executed day 24... The money isn't in my bank account anymore, since day 24, of course... And Bitinstant does not receive anything from Zipzap yet...

 Also, Zipzap tells me by e-mail, on day 25, that my two "boletos" was expired! And I have the payment vouchers in hands... So, not identifying two payments is a huge issue, at least for me, it is...

 Anyway, the Bitinstant support (Charlie) is working with me to solve this and nothing bad will happen, I'm sure.

 Keep the good work @ Bitinstant!

 Can I try it again tomorrow?! Making a new Zipzap "boleto"?

 I hope Zipzap works this time. Charlie, do you think that it is safe to use Zipzap again? Or it is better to wait a couple days?!

 Also, Bitinstant is doing a "lowercase" at the string of the destination account logins!! If the exchange require a "case sensitive" login to identify its users, this will be a problem too.

Best,
Thiago

Thiago,

Yes, it is a small problem because it is only effecting some Boleto orders, including yours.

You made the transfer Thursday evening, and now its a holiday weekend so a bit of bad luck.

Like I said, your situation is under control. Feel free to make a new Boleto tomorrow.

Thanks

[ThiagoCMC]

Thiago,

Yes, it is a small problem because it is only effecting some Boleto orders, including yours.

You made the transfer Thursday evening, and now its a holiday weekend so a bit of bad luck.

Like I said, your situation is under control. Feel free to make a new Boleto tomorrow.

Thanks

Okay Charlie! I know that was a bid of bad luck... No problem... I trust you.
Tomorrow morning I'll try it again!
Thank you!

-
 Thiago

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Thiago,

Yes, it is a small problem because it is only effecting some Boleto orders, including yours.

You made the transfer Thursday evening, and now its a holiday weekend so a bit of bad luck.

Like I said, your situation is under control. Feel free to make a new Boleto tomorrow.

Thanks

Okay Charlie! I know that was a bid of bad luck... No problem... I trust you.
Tomorrow morning I'll try it again!
Thank you!

-
 Thiago

Cool

I am speaking with Boleto right now, trying to get the issue resolved.

Will update you soon

Charlie

[jco]

I was initially excited at the prospect of buying bitcoins at walmart, but if an ID is required, my enthusiasm is dampened.

Do all these CVS/walmart/7-11 type services require ID?

Does bitinstant accept cash-in-the-mail or money orders?

I've made several purchases via CVS moneygram -> bitcoin to e-mail, and I've never had to show any I.D.  The person on the phone does ask for my information however (name, address, and phone number).

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I was initially excited at the prospect of buying bitcoins at walmart, but if an ID is required, my enthusiasm is dampened.

Do all these CVS/walmart/7-11 type services require ID?

Does bitinstant accept cash-in-the-mail or money orders?

I've made several purchases via CVS moneygram -> bitcoin to e-mail, and I've never had to show any I.D.  The person on the phone does ask for my information however (name, address, and phone number).

Yup!

[Tuxavant]

After a couple failed attempts (problems on my side), I just successfully did cash->bitcoins via email.

I paid the cashier $500 USD and by the time I had walked out to get back on my motorcycle, I received an email from coinapult that my Bitcoins were ready to pickup.

Overall, I paid about 5.15% fee ($25.73) .This service is unbelievably awesome compared to previous methods of getting Bitcoin. +10,000 Internets to BitInstant for this service. LOVE IT!

I highly recommend this service for purchases between $100-1,000 USD.. Above that, it starts to make sense to use International wire. Below that, probably dwolla, as shitty as they are, is probably still the most economical bet.

[evoorhees]

Press release on this subject today... picked up in a few dozen small sites thus far, we'll see how it progresses throughout the day.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/5/prweb9553647.htm

[Stephen Gornick]

At the bottom of the BitInstant page is the message:
"Temporary issues with our "bitcoin to email" service"

Does that mean don't choose that option, or just that there could be issues if you do?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

At the bottom of the BitInstant page is the message:
"Temporary issues with our "bitcoin to email" service"

Does that mean don't choose that option, or just that there could be issues if you do?

We had a small issue with it, its fixed now and gonna change the message now. Thanks for pointing it out

[rjk]

Your spinning flash thingy at the bottom still says Bitcoinica. Also, none of them do anything when you click them, should either make them open an associated page in a new tab, or else change the cursor to a standard one and not a hand.

[Maria]

At the bottom of the BitInstant page is the message:
"Temporary issues with our "bitcoin to email" service"

Does that mean don't choose that option, or just that there could be issues if you do?

We had a small issue with it, its fixed now and gonna change the message now. Thanks for pointing it out

Thank You Charlie for sharing a Beer with us!! You are a great guy!! Viva Bitinstant.com

Maria.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Your spinning flash thingy at the bottom still says Bitcoinica. Also, none of them do anything when you click them, should either make them open an associated page in a new tab, or else change the cursor to a standard one and not a hand.

I did not remove Bitcoinica as they have told us they plan on reopening once they return all funds.

Yup, I agree.

We are fixing up the How it Works page right now, so will fix that right after

[Stephen Gornick]

Would there be a URL that would cause the page to load with the country already selected?

E.g., If I would llke to give the URL to someone from Brazil, I want them to see Boleto automatically on the drop-down.

Some will get confused after loading the site and not see any payment method they are familiar, not realizing they can use BitInstant just by clicking on the icon for their country.

e.g.,   http://BitInstant.com/br   or http://BitInstant.com/?country=br

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Would there be a URL that would cause the page to load with the country already selected?

E.g., If I would llke to give the URL to someone from Brazil, I want them to see Boleto automatically on the drop-down.

Some will get confused after loading the site and not see any payment method they are familiar, not realizing they can use BitInstant just by clicking on the icon for their country.

e.g.,   http://BitInstant.com/br   or http://BitInstant.com/?country=br

Good idea.

I can go a step further and add on an HTTP header location lookup so if their browser allows, it can load Brazil default.

Already the Zipzap page does this.

Thanks

[SkRRJyTC]

Sorry If I just made a silly mistake and dont understand but, I feel like this process could be much more straight forward...

I want to make a deposit at CVS.  I chose CVS to Mtgox filled in my information and hit "Send funds" (Very strange language to be at this step)
Then after hitting another ambiguous button "GO" I am brought to a new web page.
ZipZap... I thought zipzap was another different payment method... I wanted to do a cash deposit...
Furthermore the ZipZap page I was directed to doesn't list CVS as an available 'Payment Center'
I have not filled out anything on the ZipZap page as of now.

At this point Im not sure If I have created an order with you guys or what the status of my "Order" is.

So help?  Will choosing Walmart deposit also direct me to ZipZap? Does ZipZap charge a fee on top of the fees listed on your site?  At what point have I created an 'order' with you, at which point I would be required to go deposit money?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Sorry If I just made a silly mistake and dont understand but, I feel like this process could be much more straight forward...

I want to make a deposit at CVS.  I chose CVS to Mtgox filled in my information and hit "Send funds" (Very strange language to be at this step)
Then after hitting another ambiguous button "GO" I am brought to a new web page.
ZipZap... I thought zipzap was another different payment method... I wanted to do a cash deposit...
Furthermore the ZipZap page I was directed to doesn't list CVS as an available 'Payment Center'
I have not filled out anything on the ZipZap page as of now.

At this point Im not sure If I have created an order with you guys or what the status of my "Order" is.

So help?  Will choosing Walmart deposit also direct me to ZipZap? Does ZipZap charge a fee on top of the fees listed on your site?  At what point have I created an 'order' with you, at which point I would be required to go deposit money?

Hey,

You are over thinking it.

It works the same way our cash bank deposits work.

Simple enter your MtGox account, the amount, and email address and create a quote. On the next confirmation page hit Go and it will take you to our partner zipzap.

Simply generate a slip at any of the locations and as soon as you make the deposit, within minutes your funds will be at MtGox.

Feel free to have one of our support staff walk you thru it 716-712-4846 or support@bitinstant.com

We are working on some 'How it Works' PDF's which we can link to

Thanks

Charlie

[SkRRJyTC]

Thanks for the reply.  This is my first time using your service.

I think it would be great to change the button from saying "send funds" to "get quote".  That send funds button scares me.

So to confirm, I can only deposit at one of the "Payment Center" locations that show up on the zip zap page?

Edit: Also videos are better than PDF's.  But PDF's showing screenshots of the whole process is better than nothing.

[rjk]

Yeah I can see where confusion would set it for a new user. No user that I know of does a lot of reading before poking buttons, so what I would suggest is that you use the above suggestion to call the button "get quote" or something like that, and perhaps a popup help tip that tells the user they will be redirected to the ZipZap site to complete the transaction.

It's a shame that there isn't a way to make it completely integrated so no one ever leaves the Bitinstant site. That would be totally the best solution, but I'm assuming the only reason you haven't done that is because ZipZap won't let you.

[SkRRJyTC]

Yeah I can see where confusion would set it for a new user. No user that I know of does a lot of reading before poking buttons, so what I would suggest is that you use the above suggestion to call the button "get quote" or something like that, and perhaps a popup help tip that tells the user they will be redirected to the ZipZap site to complete the transaction.

It's a shame that there isn't a way to make it completely integrated so no one ever leaves the Bitinstant site. That would be totally the best solution, but I'm assuming the only reason you haven't done that is because ZipZap won't let you.

Yeah I didnt want to start clicking buttons labled "send funds" before I knew what I was doing... but I sort of had to.  Also I had no idea I would be re directed to ZipZap.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Thanks for the reply.  This is my first time using your service.

I think it would be great to change the button from saying "send funds" to "get quote".  That send funds button scares me.

So to confirm, I can only deposit at one of the "Payment Center" locations that show up on the zip zap page?

Edit: Also videos are better than PDF's.  But PDF's showing screenshots of the whole process is better than nothing.

Pleasure! And thank you for the suggestions.

I agree with the text change, we will discuss it today and come up with the best text but I like 'Get Quote'

You can deposit at any of them! However, if you choose Moneygram is has to be a MG location. If you choose 7-11 it has to be a 7-11 location.
You can see ALL locations here: https://www.cashpayment.com/#paymentcenters

I agree, video's are a tad more expensive. We had a cool video maker at the office the other day, so we should knock out a deal hopefully within a few days.

It's a shame that there isn't a way to make it completely integrated so no one ever leaves the Bitinstant site. That would be totally the best solution, but I'm assuming the only reason you haven't done that is because ZipZap won't let you.

Great minds think alike!

The reason we haven't done the complete white label integration is because it would have delayed the launch a few weeks for extra development.
We wanted Bitcoiners to utilize new locations as fast as possible. We're working on it as we speak.

Keep the suggestions coming!

Charlie

[SkRRJyTC]

Support phone number goes to a google voicemail box.

Edit: I hope its not costing anyone anything for me to be creating lots of "payment slips" I never intend on paying...

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Support phone number goes to a google voicemail box.

Edit: I hope its not costing anyone anything for me to be creating lots of "payment slips" I never intend on paying...

We were on the phone when you called. Email support is MUCH faster, only use phone is its an emergency please as we have limited lines.

[SkRRJyTC]

Support phone number goes to a google voicemail box.

Edit: I hope its not costing anyone anything for me to be creating lots of "payment slips" I never intend on paying...

We were on the phone when you called. Email support is MUCH faster, only use phone is its an emergency please as we have limited lines.

Email support was VERY quick.  And although I had much confusion in my experience, I had $$ sitting in my MtGox account before I got home from the store.

Another thing I was annoyed by was the addition of the moneygram fee.  It would be nice on the quote page to have an asterisk* saying that an additional Moneygram fee may apply if the deposit location you choose utilizes moneygram.  Or something like that with better wording

[Tuxavant]

Another thing I was annoyed by was the addition of the moneygram fee.  It would be nice on the quote page to have an asterisk* saying that an additional Moneygram fee may apply if the deposit location you choose utilizes moneygram.  Or something like that with better wording

I dont know that that is exactly the case.. I had opted for "bitcoins-to-email" and used the red money gram phone at my local albertson's super market. I was not charged a convenience fee.. Both me and the cashier were suprised there was no convenience fee  but everything went through super fast. Bitcoins arrived in my inbox within 2 minutes.

[siulynot]

I think that you should make the bitinstant website more mobile friendly. Maybe create a bitinstant app for android or something. I tried to make an order from my smartphone and could not fill the form to generate the payment. It would be perfect if i could make the order from my phone right at walmart and just use the numbers in the zipzap receipt to fill the moneygram slip and receive the funds instantly on my Mtgox mobile app.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I think that you should make the bitinstant website more mobile friendly. Maybe create a bitinstant app for android or something. I tried to make an order from my smartphone and could not fill the form to generate the payment. It would be perfect if i could make the order from my phone right at walmart and just use the numbers in the zipzap receipt to fill the moneygram slip and receive the funds instantly on my Mtgox mobile app.

1 day at a time my friend, 1 day at a time.

This is in development!

[RodeoX]

@Yankee . You are going to get rich off this. 

[Gavin Andresen]

I love you guys, and hope you're being wildly successful... but:

Plugging in "Deposit $200, get $192" for a cash deposit and then finding out I'll actually have to bring $204.95 or $201.58 because of an extra third-party processing fee feels like bait-and-switch to me. Don't you know in advance how much the payment processors will charge?  Does it vary based on location or something?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I love you guys, and hope you're being wildly successful... but:

Plugging in "Deposit $200, get $192" for a cash deposit and then finding out I'll actually have to bring $204.95 or $201.58 because of an extra third-party processing fee feels like bait-and-switch to me. Don't you know in advance how much the payment processors will charge?  Does it vary based on location or something?

Thanks Gavin.

We're still negotiating with our partners on the fee's. The past 3 days, the $3.95 fee actually wasn't there, and zipzap brought it back.

We will adjust the formula so it shows accurately.

Are you coming to Vienna next week?

-Charlie

[Piper67]

Oh, and Charlie, if you could make it so that I could bring Bitcoins to Walmart and have them give me dollars, pounds, euros, reais or whatever, that would close the circle quite nicely!

But it might be asking a bit much, maybe 

[SgtSpike]

Oh, and Charlie, if you could make it so that I could bring Bitcoins to Walmart and have them give me dollars, pounds, euros, reais or whatever, that would close the circle quite nicely!

But it might be asking a bit much, maybe 

Yes this!!  I would be willing to pay a fee for it...

[Tuxavant]

Oh, and Charlie, if you could make it so that I could bring Bitcoins to Walmart and have them give me dollars, pounds, euros, reais or whatever, that would close the circle quite nicely!

But it might be asking a bit much, maybe 

Previous comments states this is coming within 4 weeks.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Oh, and Charlie, if you could make it so that I could bring Bitcoins to Walmart and have them give me dollars, pounds, euros, reais or whatever, that would close the circle quite nicely!

But it might be asking a bit much, maybe 

Previous comments states this is coming within 4 weeks.

I hope within that time.

Will update soon. We have some new features before we do that.

[dscotese]

I looked through the FAQ for "bitcoin address" because it makes sense to me for one of the options under "PayTo?" at BitInstant to be "My Bitcoin address", but that option isn't there.  Why is that?

[rjk]

I looked through the FAQ for "bitcoin address" because it makes sense to me for one of the options under "PayTo?" at BitInstant to be "My Bitcoin address", but that option isn't there.  Why is that?

Because Bitinstant isn't (currently?) an exchange; they only facilitate you getting money into the existing exchanges.

[dscotese]

Because Bitinstant isn't (currently?) an exchange; they only facilitate you getting money into the existing exchanges.

In other words they aren't interested in converting USD to Bitcoin for customers.  No wonder there's no indication of an exchange rate.  I checked the coinapult option and they charge 1% for conversion, but don't indicate how coinapult determines the exchange rate.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Because Bitinstant isn't (currently?) an exchange; they only facilitate you getting money into the existing exchanges.

In other words they aren't interested in converting USD to Bitcoin for customers.  No wonder there's no indication of an exchange rate.  I checked the coinapult option and they charge 1% for conversion, but don't indicate how coinapult determines the exchange rate.

Hey, we actually do tell you the exchange rate and how we determine it.

If you make a quote, on the second page it says:

Within 60 minutes of your payment, an equivalent amount of Bitcoin will be purchased at the current market price, automatically. These coins will then be sent to you via our partner, Coinapult.com. The email will come from Coinapult with instructions on how to send your coins wherever you'd like.

Please note, Coinapult will charge an extra 1% for the USD to BTC conversion.

The current best estimate for the amount of BTC you will receive from this transaction is ____ BTC

Thanks

[TehZomB]

Is BitInstant ever planning on supporting PNC Bank (or other smaller banks)? I know they're mainly an east-coast bank, but for me (And I'd hope some others), there is a PNC within 5 minutes of work, home, AND school.

[FreeMoney]

Is BitInstant ever planning on supporting PNC Bank (or other smaller banks)? I know they're mainly an east-coast bank, but for me (And I'd hope some others), there is a PNC within 5 minutes of work, home, AND school.

Must be a walmart, CVS or 7-11 nearby too right?

[TehZomB]

There is, but bitinstant is about convenience, right?
And if I walk into 7-11 regularly, I'll start putting on slurpee weight

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

There is, but bitinstant is about convenience, right?
And if I walk into 7-11 regularly, I'll start putting on slurpee weight

dude I love slurpees lol

[DeathAndTaxes]

There is, but bitinstant is about convenience, right?
And if I walk into 7-11 regularly, I'll start putting on slurpee weight

dude I love slurpees lol

You know Bitcoin has hit mainstream when you run a slurpee promotion.  Make a deposit at participating 7-11 and get a free slurpee. 

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

There is, but bitinstant is about convenience, right?
And if I walk into 7-11 regularly, I'll start putting on slurpee weight

dude I love slurpees lol

You know Bitcoin has hit mainstream when you run a slurpee promotion.  Make a deposit at participating 7-11 and get a free slurpee. 

do this!

How would we do this without 7-11's involvement? They would never go for it.

Maybe if you email me the slurpee receipt...but that requires to much effort.

[rjk]

How would we do this without 7-11's involvement? They would never go for it.

You don't know unless you try!

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

How would we do this without 7-11's involvement? They would never go for it.

You don't know unless you try!

Of course, and we will!

The reality is this:

Everyone likes making money, everyone likes making money passively and under the radar.

Right now, 7-11 is making money, Walmart is making money, they are both passively making money under the radar.

Once they start actively promoting Bitcoin, now my friends they are on the radar.

No one likes being on the radar 

[sunnankar]

No one likes being on the radar 

Publicity is tempting but often it does not translate to the bottom line and can often harm it by attracting competition and scrutiny. Just keep plugging away. It is awesome being 'silent giant'.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

No one likes being on the radar 

Publicity is tempting but often it does not translate to the bottom line and can often harm it by attracting competition and scrutiny. Just keep plugging away. It is awesome being 'silent giant'.

I agree

Coming from the guy who owns 'How to Vanish'

I love this community!!!!

[Tuxavant]

[DeathAndTaxes]

How would we do this without 7-11's involvement? They would never go for it.

That is why I said "you will know Bitcoin has gone mainstream".  When Bitcoin is mainstream 7-11 will be happy to run the promo.  You pay for the slurpees (discounted), they get the more deposit fees, and maybe some of the customers pick up a "Big Bite".  Nothing to lose and everything to win.

I was just thinking ahead 5 years or so.
"People may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one ..."

[justusranvier]

I just tried the Major Bank Branch -> Bitcoin address deposit method today. It took 19 minutes from the time the teller printed the deposit receipt until my Bitcoin client saw the transaction hit the network.

It's not the cheapest way to get bitcoins, since with the various fees involved I ended up paying $6.58 per bitcoin but it is certainly the fastest way to get them.

[cbeast]

I bought Bitcoin at Walmart. I had to pay $243.95 for $228.83937 worth of Bitcoin through Mt Gox.
[edit] they also required ID and phone number.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I bought Bitcoin at Walmart. I had to pay $243.95 for $228.83937 worth of Bitcoin through Mt Gox.
[edit] they also required ID and phone number.

They are not supposed to ask for your ID, you could have declined.

[cbeast]

I bought Bitcoin at Walmart. I had to pay $243.95 for $228.83937 worth of Bitcoin through Mt Gox.
[edit] they also required ID and phone number.

They are not supposed to ask for your ID, you could have declined.

I tried to decline, she would not process it without ID. I don't know if she put it into the system. Maybe she just didn't know any better.

[boonies4u]

I bought Bitcoin at Walmart. I had to pay $243.95 for $228.83937 worth of Bitcoin through Mt Gox.
[edit] they also required ID and phone number.

They are not supposed to ask for your ID, you could have declined.

I tried to decline, she would not process it without ID. I don't know if she put it into the system. Maybe she just didn't know any better.

She probably hasn't had to do that service for someone before. I worked at a truck stop, a good rule of thumb to protect your ass (and your job) is to ask for ID when it comes to things involving money transfers.

[chsados]

Has Chase Bank been pulled?  I tried to set an order up yesterday and they wont show up on the trustcash map.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Has Chase Bank been pulled?  I tried to set an order up yesterday and they wont show up on the trustcash map.

Yup, Chase is down for a few days. We are setting up new accounts

[Hexadecibel]

Has Chase Bank been pulled?  I tried to set an order up yesterday and they wont show up on the trustcash map.

Yup, Chase is down for a few days. We are setting up new accounts

Ah! I was wondering about that! I had to drive like a whole extra mile!

The teller at my chase bank told me I was the second person that day to make a deposit like that. I live in a quasi rural area, so I was surprised...

[Tuxavant]

The teller at my chase bank told me I was the second person that day to make a deposit like that. I live in a quasi rural area, so I was surprised...

Wow. That is awesome... Just the other day I was thinking to myself... If I'm every out and about, and randomly overhear a mention of Bitcoin in some conversation, I think I will figuratively pull down my pants and take a shit in front of everyone right there. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but it made me laugh and hearing "Bitcoin" in a random venue will truly be a memorable day for me.

[Jan]

The teller at my chase bank told me I was the second person that day to make a deposit like that. I live in a quasi rural area, so I was surprised...

Wow. That is awesome... Just the other day I was thinking to myself... If I'm every out and about, and randomly overhear a mention of Bitcoin in some conversation, I think I will figuratively pull down my pants and take a shit in front of everyone right there. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but it made me laugh and hearing "Bitcoin" in a random venue will truly be a memorable day for me.

Lol.

BTW: it really helps wearing one of them bitcoin T-shirts. All of a sudden you get contacted by ppl who heard something and want to know more.

[IveBeenBit]

How have people's experiences been using this new feature? I just tried for the first time today to deposit at a convenience store and got blank stares from the tellers. They told me to come back later when their boss wasn't too busy to talk to me because they had never heard of zip zap payments before.

I only tried at one place, so maybe my experience was unusual.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

How have people's experiences been using this new feature? I just tried for the first time today to deposit at a convenience store and got blank stares from the tellers. They told me to come back later when their boss wasn't too busy to talk to me because they had never heard of zip zap payments before.

I only tried at one place, so maybe my experience was unusual.

Hey,

We get 50+ orders a day from this.

Which store did you go to? Did you go to the Moneygram desk? There are instructions on the slip!

Should have called/email support from the store

Charlie

[IveBeenBit]

Hey,

We get 50+ orders a day from this.

Which store did you go to? Did you go to the Moneygram desk? There are instructions on the slip!

Should have called/email support from the store

Charlie

I went to a local, independently owned convenience store that was listed on the Zip Zap website as the closest one to me. They were not a moneygram location AFAIK.

When I got home I emailed zipzap support and they told me to pick a different location near me and go there.

I picked one that happened to also do Moneygram payments and everything there went off without a hitch.

[RodeoX]

...[edit] they also required ID and phone number.

In that case my number is 555-1212. 
It drives me crazy when a store demands phone or even SS#. I would never even consider giving them real info. I keep several identities just for this purpose. Or I ask for the teller's SS# in return. They never go for that. 

[DeathAndTaxes]

...[edit] they also required ID and phone number.

In that case my number is 555-1212. 
It drives me crazy when a store demands phone or even SS#. I would never even consider giving them real info. I keep several identities just for this purpose. Or I ask for the teller's SS# in return. They never go for that. 

Go with 867-5309 instead, most cashiers are too young to get the joke.

[rjk]

...[edit] they also required ID and phone number.

In that case my number is 555-1212. 
It drives me crazy when a store demands phone or even SS#. I would never even consider giving them real info. I keep several identities just for this purpose. Or I ask for the teller's SS# in return. They never go for that. 

Go with 867-5309 instead, most cashiers are too young to get the joke.

Damn, a Tutone reference. You beat me.

[dancupid]

...[edit] they also required ID and phone number.

In that case my number is 555-1212. 
It drives me crazy when a store demands phone or even SS#. I would never even consider giving them real info. I keep several identities just for this purpose. Or I ask for the teller's SS# in return. They never go for that. 

Go with 867-5309 instead, most cashiers are too young to get the joke.

When I was 11 I was still too cool to get this joke - I was listening to 2 tone

[SkRRJyTC]

Great job guys. This will fill one major hurdle in Bitcoin which is the difficulty in actually getting Bitcoins.

Thanks 

Now if we could have the opposite. Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

At least bit-pay can do a direct deposit of cash from BTC...

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

Any chance there is an update?  Not being pushy with the time frame, just very excited!

[Gladamas]

So, on the Newbies thread someone posted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15958.msg983040#msg983040) regarding an issue of not getting their coins for more than 12 hours.

I just came here to ask about BitInstant. I have used them before and it was indeed 'instant', but I did $1200 in deposits with them yesterday and I still haven't received anything from them! Nor have they responded to my support email.

I have recently suffered from the same problem, I thought it was caused by writing a check rather than depositing cash directly, but I could be wrong.

I paid by cash on Wednesday and received my coins in <20 minutes from the time I deposited. Today I deposited (<$1000) by check, and I haven't received my coins yet, for 3 hours now.

I have also received exactly one email regarding my recent transaction, that is my invoice to take to the bank from TrustCash.

Does anybody happen to know what the matter is? Who should I contact here?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

So, on the Newbies thread someone posted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15958.msg983040#msg983040) regarding an issue of not getting their coins for more than 12 hours.

I just came here to ask about BitInstant. I have used them before and it was indeed 'instant', but I did $1200 in deposits with them yesterday and I still haven't received anything from them! Nor have they responded to my support email.

I have recently suffered from the same problem, I thought it was caused by writing a check rather than depositing cash directly, but I could be wrong.

I paid by cash on Wednesday and received my coins in <20 minutes from the time I deposited. Today I deposited (<$1000) by check, and I haven't received my coins yet, for 3 hours now.

I have also received exactly one email regarding my recent transaction, that is my invoice to take to the bank from TrustCash.

Does anybody happen to know what the matter is? Who should I contact here?

Hey,

Your issue is you wrote a check, now we have to wait 3 days until it clears. It's not TrustCASH for nothing 

The customer in the newbies thread and I have been speaking via email.

Thanks!

Charlie

[Gladamas]

So, on the Newbies thread someone posted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15958.msg983040#msg983040) regarding an issue of not getting their coins for more than 12 hours.

I just came here to ask about BitInstant. I have used them before and it was indeed 'instant', but I did $1200 in deposits with them yesterday and I still haven't received anything from them! Nor have they responded to my support email.

I have recently suffered from the same problem, I thought it was caused by writing a check rather than depositing cash directly, but I could be wrong.

I paid by cash on Wednesday and received my coins in <20 minutes from the time I deposited. Today I deposited (<$1000) by check, and I haven't received my coins yet, for 3 hours now.

I have also received exactly one email regarding my recent transaction, that is my invoice to take to the bank from TrustCash.

Does anybody happen to know what the matter is? Who should I contact here?

Hey,

Your issue is you wrote a check, now we have to wait 3 days until it clears. It's not TrustCASH for nothing 

The customer in the newbies thread and I have been speaking via email.

Thanks!

Charlie

Ah. That makes sense. I don't need the coins immediately, I can wait.

Is that business days or just (regular?) days? Will I receive the coins on Wednesday or Monday?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

So, on the Newbies thread someone posted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15958.msg983040#msg983040) regarding an issue of not getting their coins for more than 12 hours.

I just came here to ask about BitInstant. I have used them before and it was indeed 'instant', but I did $1200 in deposits with them yesterday and I still haven't received anything from them! Nor have they responded to my support email.

I have recently suffered from the same problem, I thought it was caused by writing a check rather than depositing cash directly, but I could be wrong.

I paid by cash on Wednesday and received my coins in <20 minutes from the time I deposited. Today I deposited (<$1000) by check, and I haven't received my coins yet, for 3 hours now.

I have also received exactly one email regarding my recent transaction, that is my invoice to take to the bank from TrustCash.

Does anybody happen to know what the matter is? Who should I contact here?

Hey,

Your issue is you wrote a check, now we have to wait 3 days until it clears. It's not TrustCASH for nothing 

The customer in the newbies thread and I have been speaking via email.

Thanks!

Charlie

Ah. That makes sense. I don't need the coins immediately, I can wait.

Is that business days or just (regular?) days? Will I receive the coins on Wednesday or Monday?

Hey,

Ok, but please use cash next time, and let us know when you do.

We operate 24/7 so as soon as it clears, we will send the coins.

Im sending you a PM, pelase read ASAP

Charlie

[Gladamas]

So, on the Newbies thread someone posted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15958.msg983040#msg983040) regarding an issue of not getting their coins for more than 12 hours.

I just came here to ask about BitInstant. I have used them before and it was indeed 'instant', but I did $1200 in deposits with them yesterday and I still haven't received anything from them! Nor have they responded to my support email.

I have recently suffered from the same problem, I thought it was caused by writing a check rather than depositing cash directly, but I could be wrong.

I paid by cash on Wednesday and received my coins in <20 minutes from the time I deposited. Today I deposited (<$1000) by check, and I haven't received my coins yet, for 3 hours now.

I have also received exactly one email regarding my recent transaction, that is my invoice to take to the bank from TrustCash.

Does anybody happen to know what the matter is? Who should I contact here?

Hey,

Your issue is you wrote a check, now we have to wait 3 days until it clears. It's not TrustCASH for nothing 

The customer in the newbies thread and I have been speaking via email.

Thanks!

Charlie

Ah. That makes sense. I don't need the coins immediately, I can wait.

Is that business days or just (regular?) days? Will I receive the coins on Wednesday or Monday?

Hey,

Ok, but please use cash next time, and let us know when you do.

We operate 24/7 so as soon as it clears, we will send the coins.

Im sending you a PM, pelase read ASAP

Charlie

I'll definitely pay with cash next time. 

So, does it take about three business days for the check to clear?
(Also, responded to your PM.)

[Gareth Nelson]

Great job guys. This will fill one major hurdle in Bitcoin which is the difficulty in actually getting Bitcoins.

Thanks 

Now if we could have the opposite. Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

At least bit-pay can do a direct deposit of cash from BTC...

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

Any chance there is an update?  Not being pushy with the time frame, just very excited!

We have something coming but I can't go into full details just yet

[cbeast]

Great job guys. This will fill one major hurdle in Bitcoin which is the difficulty in actually getting Bitcoins.

Thanks  

Now if we could have the opposite. Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

At least bit-pay can do a direct deposit of cash from BTC...

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

Any chance there is an update?  Not being pushy with the time frame, just very excited!

We have something coming but I can't go into full details just yet

If you are able to use Bitcoin to send remittance through payment centers and banks, then it will add an order of magnitude of legitimacy to Bitcoin. Before long we'll be seeing Bitpay at pawn shops.

[frankendoodle]

I've seen it mentioned before on this thread that people outside of the US can still pay through Walmarts if they're available in their country, is this correct? Does anyone know if this would work in England within the ASDA stores? (Since they're a subsidiary of Walmart).

[imanikin]

If you are able to use Bitcoin to send remittance through payment centers and banks, then it will add an order of magnitude of legitimacy to Bitcoin. Before long we'll be seeing Bitpay at pawn shops.

With the current fee structure, i think it will be a long time before Bitcoin, not to mention Bit-Pay, is widely accepted.

It's simply too expensive to convert fiat to Bitcoin, not to mention too complicated and time-consuming for the average consumer. So, even if pawn shops accept B, it's not cost-effective for the consumer to pay in B instead of paper, credit cards, and other current devils we already know.

Right now, there are so many expensive middlemen, such as BitInstant, Bit-pay, etcetera, that B is more costly to use than credit cards, not to mention cash.

Calculate for yourself how ridiculously expensive it is just to get fiat in your pocket to an xchange via this CVS/Walmart/blahBlah method. You might win OR lose due to the large xchange rate fluctuations. Plus, unlike paper, it's not anonymous whatsoever...

Due to these costs, i am done with using large xchanges to buy B, unless i absolutely have to.

In the existing environment, we simply replace expensive middlemen like credit card companies, with new expensive middlemen, such as Bitinstant, ZipZap, BitPay, bitcoin xchanges, etc.

The governments are allowing it, because the average consumer would have to be a fool to use B instead of fiat, and pay the Bitcoin middlemen. So, B isn't a threat to fiat now, or in the foreseeable future. IIIFFF and WHEN it ever becomes one, the governments will just make it so that the middlemen have to charge even higher fees to xchange fiat to B...

Until i can get paid in B, i would only buy B privately, and you all know that's not easy, cheap or convenient either for most people. There isn't a private exchanger within 100's of kliks of me.

Good luck with widespread adoption given the current xchange middlemen! 

[justusranvier]

With the current fee structure, i think it will be a long time before Bitcoin, not to mention Bit-Pay, is widely accepted.

It's simply too expensive to convert fiat to Bitcoin, not to mention too complicated and time-consuming for the average consumer. So, even if pawn shops accept B, it's not cost-effective for the consumer to pay in B instead of paper, credit cards, and other current devils we already know.

Right now, there are so many expensive middlemen, such as BitInstant, Bit-pay, etcetera, that B is more costly to use than credit cards, not to mention cash.

Calculate for yourself how ridiculously expensive it is just to get fiat in your pocket to an xchange via this CVS/Walmart/blahBlah method. You might win OR lose due to the large xchange rate fluctuations. Plus, unlike paper, it's not anonymous whatsoever...

Due to these costs, i am done with using large xchanges to buy B, unless i absolutely have to.

In the existing environment, we simply replace expensive middlemen like credit card companies, with new expensive middlemen, such as Bitinstant, ZipZap, BitPay, bitcoin xchanges, etc.

The governments are allowing it, because the average consumer would have to be a fool to use B instead of fiat, and pay the Bitcoin middlemen. So, B isn't a threat to fiat now, or in the foreseeable future. IIIFFF and WHEN it ever becomes one, the governments will just make it so that the middlemen have to charge even higher fees to xchange fiat to B...

Until i can get paid in B, i would only buy B privately, and you all know that's not easy, cheap or convenient either for most people. There isn't a private exchanger within 100's of kliks of me.

Good luck with widespread adoption given the current xchange middlemen! 

The developing world is the key. There are a lot of people who don't have access to modern banking and/or are getting gouged by remittance services. Once bitcoins start flowing into those countries all of a sudden they'll have the ability to purchase products and services from overseas they couldn't before and that's how exporters in the developed countries start getting paid in bitcoins.

[imanikin]

The developing world is the key. There are a lot of people who don't have access to modern banking and/or are getting gouged by remittance services. Once bitcoins start flowing into those countries all of a sudden they'll have the ability to purchase products and services from overseas they couldn't before and that's how exporters in the developed countries start getting paid in bitcoins.

Not likely, i think. "Bitcoins will start flowing into those countries" through the same or similar expensive middlemen. It might not be BitInstant, but some other local one.

So, even if exporters in the developed countries are willing to accept B from the developing world, the average consumer won't be able to afford to buy Bitcoins to spend.

If it's expensive for some of us in the developed world to buy B, it will not "start flowing" to the average consumer in the developing world...

It MIGHT be a new niche value store for the wealthy of both worlds, just as gold and such are today, but not a widespread payment system...

Doesn't seem promising to me. 

[evoorhees]

Stage 1: Bitcoin doesn't have useful systems built for it.

Stage 2: Bitcoin has useful systems, but they are relatively expensive.

Stage 3: Bitcoin has useful systems, and they are relatively cheap.

Stage 4: Bitcoin takes over the world.

We're in Stage 2, building systems where none existed before. Give it time, and you will see prices come down. Bitcoin allows the baseline sending of money to be near-zero cost, and thus it is inevitable that affiliated service providers will tend toward cheaper rates than those available in non-Bitcoin systems.

[Gareth Nelson]

I've seen it mentioned before on this thread that people outside of the US can still pay through Walmarts if they're available in their country, is this correct? Does anyone know if this would work in England within the ASDA stores? (Since they're a subsidiary of Walmart).

I'm in the UK myself and would love to make this work, but i'm not entirely sure where in asda you'd go to make moneygram payments - if you know how to make this work then let me know and we can release a guide.

We are looking into other options for use in the UK, and I am personally pushing this internally as it's an odd feeling not being able to make use of the platform I spend all my time building within my own country.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

In the existing environment, we simply replace expensive middlemen like credit card companies, with new expensive middlemen, such as Bitinstant, ZipZap, BitPay, bitcoin xchanges, etc.

Until i can get paid in B, i would only buy B privately, and you all know that's not easy, cheap or convenient either for most people. There isn't a private exchanger within 100's of kliks of me.

That isn't true.  Private doesn't have to mean local.  We sell bitcoins at 1% BELOW MtGox's last.  Plus you avoid slippage and exchange fees.     What was that about not easy or cheap or convenient?

Please discuss your own service on your own thread. We need to keep this thread on topic for support issues.

As our company gets larger we can lower rates. Understand that we run a legal and large operation by bridging the gap between fiat and Bitcoin, which is not cheap. Most fee's go to our processors and lawyers. Your not running a legal operation, therefore when you do high volume the bank will shut you down and can force you to give up all your customer data, since you don't keep an AML and KYC Manual nor are FinCEN regulated.

We legally, keep our customers private and give them A+ premium service.

-Charlie

[TangibleCryptography]

Your not running a legal operation, therefore when you do high volume the bank will shut you down and can force you to give up all your customer data, since you don't keep an AML and KYC Manual nor are FinCEN regulated.

I will leave the thread but I have to refute this falsehood.  FinCEN has not made any declaration that Bitcoin is a currency.  As such the purchase of bitcoins hasn't been determined to be a currency exchange.  We intentionally limited the scope of our business to not be classified as a "money transmitter".  We don't issue stored value cards, money orders, or offer third party payment services.  Under FinCEN current definition we are not a money service business and are not required to file as such.

Still he have the highest respect for our clients financial privacy so rather than just accept the status quo we have requested an administrative ruling on our business activities and how it pertains MSB & KYC requirements.  They have not responded yet but are obligated to do so under federal law.  The request for an administrative ruling was sent by certified mail and signed for by an agent of FinCEN.  If FinCEN rules that we are a money services business then we will certainly file as an MSB we have 180 days to make our filing.

While I do not believe bitcoin status will remain undefined forever what matters under the law is the law as currently written and regulated.  If the law changes we will change with it.  Your belief that we need to file as an MSB is just that your personal belief.  What matters is what FinCEN determines and that is why prudently we asked for an administrative ruling to preemptively answer that question.

Stating we are not a legal enterprise is false.  I will give you the benefit of doubt and assume it is due to a lack of information not malicious intent.  We intentionally limited the scope of our operation so as to not be defined as money transmitter.

Still if you want to throw stones in glass houses there is certainly some question on your legal standing as a money transmitters.  A money transmitter requires licensing at the state level in at least 10 states and you have provided no information on your licensing status.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

since you don't keep an AML and KYC Manual nor are FinCEN regulated

I have to clarify this point.  FinCEN has not made any declaration that Bitcoin is a currency.  We have filed a request for an administrative ruling from FinCEN on the matter.  They have not responded yet but are obligated to do so under federal law.  We are not a money transmitter, we are not a currency exchanger, we are not issuing stored value cards, we don't issue money orders.  Under FinCEN current definition we are not a money service business.  

We purchase Bitcoins and pay our clients.  A gold buyer (or any company engaging in buying assets from the public) isn't a money service business.   No being prudent enterprise we have asked for a definitive answer from FinCEN by requesting an administrative ruling.  If FinCEN rules that we are a money services business then we will certainly file as an MSB.

Stating we are not a legal enterprise is false.  I will assume it due to a lack of information not malicious intent.  We have 180 days to file as an MSB and have asked FinCEN to provide clarification on their definitions.  We have taken all necessary steps to ensure compliance.  We intentionally limited the scope of our operation so as to not be defined as  money transmitter.

The is certainly some question on your legal standing as a money transmitters as that requires not just an MSB registration but licensing in at least ten states.

Wether or not Bitcoin is a currency, your still doing MSB related activities.

Your required to register as an MSB, keep an up to date AML Manual, attend BSA training, file SAR's, ect.

I haven't seen you at any BSA trainings yet.

Bitinstant, LLC (and her parent company) is licensed by the New York State Superintendent of Banks pursuant to article 9-A of the Banking Law.
Bitinstant, LLC (and her parent company) is registered with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCen) as a Money Service Business (MSB).
and is also a proud member of the Financial Service Centers of America (FiSCA).

Additionally, Chase, Citibank, BoA, and Wells Fargo know what we do regarding Bitcoin. Your BoA account will be shut down as soon as they catch wind, as will Western Union. The legalities of allowing random people depositing into your business accounts is very debatable.

Look, Im not putting down your business. Im just saying that if your doing actual volume, you need to get your shit together because you cannot fly under the radar. Bitcoiners will depend on you and when you can't come thru, they will hand your ass to the vultures.

I'd be happy to share any knowledge I have with you, we have an attorney who works for us full time and we can help you put together an AML manual.

We're all friends here, competition is a good thing bro.

-Charlie

[TangibleCryptography]

Wether or not Bitcoin is a currency, your still doing MSB related activities.

Please state the MSB regulated activity we are engaged in?  

Your required to register as an MSB, keep an up to date AML Manual, attend BSA training, file SAR's, ect.

Those are requirements of an MSB which we assert we are not.  It is up to FinCEN not you to make that determination and we have formally filed to have them make such a determination.  If they determine our activity falls under the scope of an MSB we have every intention of filing.

The legalities of allowing random people depositing into your business accounts is very debatable.

So you have ceased your arrangement with TrustCash  (which allows "random people to deposit funds" into their business account that they then forward to your business account)?

Look, Im not putting down your business. Im just saying that if your doing actual volume, you need to get your shit together because you cannot fly under the radar. Bitcoiners will depend on you and when you can't come thru, they will hand your ass to the vultures.

No you are attempting to undermine a competitor and I am not your "bro".   We have filed with THE DEFINITIVE source, FinCEN.  It is their determination not yours that matters.   We are fully compliant with the law.  Either they will determine our business activity does not make us an MSB in which case filing provides no tangible benefit or they will determine our activity does make us an MSB in which case we will file.  It is their determination to make and thus we have asked formally for them to make that determination.

I have deleted the post which caused you to go off spouting lies about competitors.   I request that you either either state definitively state (quoting MSB regulations) which MSB activity we are engaged in or cease your false and unsubstantiated accusations.

Before "helping" competitors maybe you should take some of your own advice.   Please post your NY state money transmitter license number.  You ARE engaged in the transmission of funds for a third party making you a money transmitter in most states.  That requires state licensing in at least ten states.  I am sure you have those licenses and just didn't want to clutter your website up with them.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Wether or not Bitcoin is a currency, your still doing MSB related activities.

Please state the MSB regulated activity we are engaged in?  

Your required to register as an MSB, keep an up to date AML Manual, attend BSA training, file SAR's, ect.

Those are requirements of an MSB which we assert we are not.  It is up to FinCEN not you to make that determination and we have formally filed to have them make such a determination.  If they determine our activity falls under the scope of an MSB we have every intention of filing.

The legalities of allowing random people depositing into your business accounts is very debatable.

Which is why you don't don't partner with TrustCash which allows "random people to deposit funds into their business account"?

Look, Im not putting down your business. Im just saying that if your doing actual volume, you need to get your shit together because you cannot fly under the radar. Bitcoiners will depend on you and when you can't come thru, they will hand your ass to the vultures.

No you are attempting to undermine a competitor and I am not your "bro".   We have filed with THE DEFINITIVE source.  FinCEN.  It is their determination not yours that matters.   We are fully compliant with the law.  

I have deleted the post which caused you to go off spouting lies about competitors.   I request that you either either state definitively (quoting MSB regulations) which MSB activity we are engaged in or cease your false and unsubstantiated accusations.

Before you go "helping" competitors maybe you should take some of your own advice.   Please post your NY state money transmitter license.  You are engaged in the transmission of funds for a third party.  You are required to to be licensed in at least ten states.  I am sure you have those licenses and just didn't want to clutter your website up with them.

Dude, relax.

Your taking this way to personally, I'm trying to help you here and make sure you don't get shut down.

Yes, our parent company (We're closing a VC round and can't give that info yet) is licensed in over 20 states. We will be announcing it within 2 weeks or so.

Does BoA know your accepting cash from customers directly? Do you know who your customers are?
Yes, we partnered with TrustCash because they have written permission from the banks to do what we do.

Does Western Union know what you do?

Does your personal bank know your sending ACH and wire's to people whom you have no idea who they are?

Let's not debate this here, feel free to email me at charlie@bitinstant.com and I will share with you some of our knowledge.
Again, this is not my personal knowledge but of our attorneys.

-Charlie

[boonies4u]

If you are able to use Bitcoin to send remittance through payment centers and banks, then it will add an order of magnitude of legitimacy to Bitcoin. Before long we'll be seeing Bitpay at pawn shops.

Due to these costs, i am done with using large xchanges to buy B, unless i absolutely have to.

I haven't used Bit-Pay or Bit-Instant so far. I'm certainly considering using them to pre-order a Jally, due to the importance of timing. Just because certain businesses and infrastructure are set up as of now, does not mean that you have to use them.

I am actually surprised you started off with exchanges to buy BTC. Is that common nowadays?

[Stephen Gornick]

Stage 1: Bitcoin doesn't have useful systems built for it.

Stage 2: Bitcoin has useful systems, but they are relatively expensive.

Stage 3: Bitcoin has useful systems, and they are relatively cheap.

Stage 4: Bitcoin takes over the world.

We're in Stage 2, building systems where none existed before. Give it time, and you will see prices come down. Bitcoin allows the baseline sending of money to be near-zero cost, and thus it is inevitable that affiliated service providers will tend toward cheaper rates than those available in non-Bitcoin systems.

In comparison, a merchant accepting credit card pays 2 to 3% in merchant fees (unless in travel or other high risk category where 8% or more is common) and the merchant still is exposed chargebacks, and doesn't get to spend the money for a couple days.

While I might pay several percent to buy bitcoins using fiat because I want them right now, the merchant can share the cost savings from bitcoin by offering a discount over fiat when accepting bitcoin as payment.   That is already happening in a couple instances.  Hopefully we'll see more of that.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Stage 1: Bitcoin doesn't have useful systems built for it.

Stage 2: Bitcoin has useful systems, but they are relatively expensive.

Stage 3: Bitcoin has useful systems, and they are relatively cheap.

Stage 4: Bitcoin takes over the world.

We're in Stage 2, building systems where none existed before. Give it time, and you will see prices come down. Bitcoin allows the baseline sending of money to be near-zero cost, and thus it is inevitable that affiliated service providers will tend toward cheaper rates than those available in non-Bitcoin systems.

In comparison, a merchant accepting credit card pays 2 to 3% in merchant fees (unless in travel or other high risk category where 8% or more is common) and the merchant still is exposed chargebacks, and doesn't get to spend the money for a couple days.

While I might pay several percent to buy bitcoins using fiat because I want them right now, the merchant can share the cost savings from bitcoin by offering a discount over fiat when accepting bitcoin as payment.   That is already happening in a couple instances.  Hopefully we'll see more of that.

+1

You always say the right things Stephen 

[drrussellshane]

Ok. I'm trying to do this "ZipZap" payment stuff and it says I will receive ~$48.00 worth of BTC for a $50 order, but then when I begin to jump through ZipZap's hoops, I am told that I must pay $53.95, instead of the $50 I had expected to pay from earlier.

This seems pretty damn sketchy that I can't even be informed from the outset what charges I will incur.

I was going to complete the deal, but how do I know when I get to the cashier, they won't ask me for $60?

Buying bitcoins at walmart *sounds* nice, but I've found that in practice, it's actually quite a pain in the ass.

[Gareth Nelson]

Ok. I'm trying to do this "ZipZap" payment stuff and it says I will receive ~$48.00 worth of BTC for a $50 order, but then when I begin to jump through ZipZap's hoops, I am told that I must pay $53.95, instead of the $50 I had expected to pay from earlier.

This seems pretty damn sketchy that I can't even be informed from the outset what charges I will incur.

I was going to complete the deal, but how do I know when I get to the cashier, they won't ask me for $60?

Buying bitcoins at walmart *sounds* nice, but I've found that in practice, it's actually quite a pain in the ass.

The deposit slip you get from zipzap has the final amount you will need to pay - sadly we do not know in advance what the fees from zipzap will be and so can only tell you what we ask for from zipzap.

[drrussellshane]

Ok. I'm trying to do this "ZipZap" payment stuff and it says I will receive ~$48.00 worth of BTC for a $50 order, but then when I begin to jump through ZipZap's hoops, I am told that I must pay $53.95, instead of the $50 I had expected to pay from earlier.

This seems pretty damn sketchy that I can't even be informed from the outset what charges I will incur.

I was going to complete the deal, but how do I know when I get to the cashier, they won't ask me for $60?

Buying bitcoins at walmart *sounds* nice, but I've found that in practice, it's actually quite a pain in the ass.

The deposit slip you get from zipzap has the final amount you will need to pay - sadly we do not know in advance what the fees from zipzap will be and so can only tell you what we ask for from zipzap.

I see. That is unfortunate, as it is confusing, misleading, and a nuisance to customers and potential customers.

So, when I try to make a $50 order, I must pay a total of $53.95 to receive $47.005 in bitcoins?

Does BitInstant accept money orders directly, so that customers might be able to cut down the spread some by avoiding the ZipZap charge?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Ok. I'm trying to do this "ZipZap" payment stuff and it says I will receive ~$48.00 worth of BTC for a $50 order, but then when I begin to jump through ZipZap's hoops, I am told that I must pay $53.95, instead of the $50 I had expected to pay from earlier.

This seems pretty damn sketchy that I can't even be informed from the outset what charges I will incur.

I was going to complete the deal, but how do I know when I get to the cashier, they won't ask me for $60?

Buying bitcoins at walmart *sounds* nice, but I've found that in practice, it's actually quite a pain in the ass.

The deposit slip you get from zipzap has the final amount you will need to pay - sadly we do not know in advance what the fees from zipzap will be and so can only tell you what we ask for from zipzap.

I see. That is unfortunate, as it is confusing, misleading, and a nuisance to customers and potential customers.

So, when I try to make a $50 order, I must pay a total of $53.95 to receive $47.005 in bitcoins?

Does BitInstant accept money orders directly, so that customers might be able to cut down the spread some by avoiding the ZipZap charge?

We are working to make it less confusing and other options to get bitcoins cheaper and faster, while keeping your transactions safe and secure.

If you PM me, we can work the best way for you to buy Bitcoin!

Don't forget, 90% of cash deposits are completed and paid within 30 minutes. For this high level of automation in addition to the high-risk nature, we pay higher processing fee's as well to bring you these premium services to buy Bitcoin.

Stay tuned as we have a new features and announcements coming out very soon that will rock the Bitcoin world.

-Charlie

[BCB]

If my rudimentary math is correct you are effectively paying 7.48 per BTC

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

If my rudimentary math is correct you are effectively paying 7.48 per BTC

The more you deposit the less the price per BTC because your talking about a $3.95 flat fee as opposed to a % so of course for smaller amounts its less

[BCB]

If my rudimentary math is correct you are effectively paying 7.48 per BTC

The more you deposit the less the price per BTC because your talking about a $3.95 flat fee as opposed to a % so of course for smaller amounts its less

Thanks.  But the Bitinstant also increases with the amount purchased, correct?

[bit-joker]

I checked your website to buy bitcoins;

Interested in getting 500 USD worth of bitcoins, I see 3.99% commission. I'll receive 480 USD (so 20 USD commission).
When I click NEXT, it takes me to ZipZap. Now instead of 992 BRL (500 USD), it says 1059 BRL (533 USD).

So, to buy 480 USD worth of bitcoins, do I have to pay 53 USD? In that case, 3.99% in reality is 10%.

[Gladamas]

I checked your website to buy bitcoins;

Interested in getting 500 USD worth of bitcoins, I see 3.99% commission. I'll receive 480 USD (so 20 USD commission).
When I click NEXT, it takes me to ZipZap. Now instead of 992 BRL (500 USD), it says 1059 BRL (533 USD).

So, to buy 480 USD worth of bitcoins, do I have to pay 53 USD? In that case, 3.99% in reality is 10%.

Bitinstant charges the 3.99% fee, then ZipZap (an unaffiliated company) charges an additional fee on top of that.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I checked your website to buy bitcoins;

Interested in getting 500 USD worth of bitcoins, I see 3.99% commission. I'll receive 480 USD (so 20 USD commission).
When I click NEXT, it takes me to ZipZap. Now instead of 992 BRL (500 USD), it says 1059 BRL (533 USD).

So, to buy 480 USD worth of bitcoins, do I have to pay 53 USD? In that case, 3.99% in reality is 10%.

Bitinstant charges the 3.99% fee, then ZipZap (an unaffiliated company) charges an additional fee on top of that.

Exactly.

If my rudimentary math is correct you are effectively paying 7.48 per BTC

The more you deposit the less the price per BTC because your talking about a $3.95 flat fee as opposed to a % so of course for smaller amounts its less

Thanks.  But the Bitinstant also increases with the amount purchased, correct?

No.

Moneygram, 7-11, Walmart, ect. are 3.99% straight thru.

[Portnoy]

Canada will be added within weeks, and other countries will follow...

It's been quite a while... any update on anything for Canada? 

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Canada will be added within weeks, and other countries will follow...

It's been quite a while... any update on anything for Canada? 

Heh, Im actually sitting with them right now in San Francisco!

We're at the last steps here, just need to open up a bank account but integration is done.

[Portnoy]

Canada will be added within weeks, and other countries will follow...

It's been quite a while... any update on anything for Canada? 

Heh, Im actually sitting with them right now in San Francisco!

We're at the last steps here, just need to open up a bank account but integration is done.

Them? 

Okay, thanks for the update. 

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Canada will be added within weeks, and other countries will follow...

It's been quite a while... any update on anything for Canada? 

Heh, Im actually sitting with them right now in San Francisco!

We're at the last steps here, just need to open up a bank account but integration is done.

Them? 

Okay, thanks for the update. 

Moneygram!

[vom]

I just used BitInstant last night and am impressed.  The ZipZap fee caught me off guard as well - but it's a flat fee so that helps a bit.  I'm not exaggerating when I say this - as the cashier (CVS) tore the MoneyGram receipt to hand it to me - my phone went off (email) with my BitInstant confirmation.  Very cool.

My transaction was MoneyGram -> Bitcoin address.  I didn't see a tx id or anything on my status.  Is this something that could be added ?  Maybe a link to block explorer with the tx or something ?  FYI I did NOT have any issues with receiving the BTC - by the time I drove home from CVS I had it in my wallet.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I just used BitInstant last night and am impressed.  The ZipZap fee caught me off guard as well - but it's a flat fee so that helps a bit.  I'm not exaggerating when I say this - as the cashier (CVS) tore the MoneyGram receipt to hand it to me - my phone went off (email) with my BitInstant confirmation.  Very cool.

My transaction was MoneyGram -> Bitcoin address.  I didn't see a tx id or anything on my status.  Is this something that could be added ?  Maybe a link to block explorer with the tx or something ?  FYI I did NOT have any issues with receiving the BTC - by the time I drove home from CVS I had it in my wallet.

Thanks for the nice review!

Good suggestion- We will add a link to blockchain and a TX ID in the emails

Thanks

[Vernon715]

Can you provide a page on your website where you list where you stand bringing this service to each country?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Can you provide a page on your website where you list where you stand bringing this service to each country?

Thats a super idea!

[Vernon715]

Can you provide a page on your website where you list where you stand bringing this service to each country?

Thats a super idea!

Yeah, I live in the US, but I think that it would be interesting to know what developments are in the pipeline.

I know that you have posted some of this information on this thread, but it would be nice to be able to be able to look at one official source for this information.

Thanks

[cbeast]

Walmart fail. Instead of the small amounts I usually deposit, this time I wanted to make a larger deposit. Bitinstant.com has a $500 limit so I broke it up into multiple orders. It would mean getting charged the $3.95 ZipZap fee multiple times, but that's not a big deal. I printed the PDFs out and they had the codes and payments in the amount of $503.95. Well, they didn't work because it doesn't take anything over $500. Apparently the limit is $496.05. I don't know what to do now? Can I use the same deposit forms and just change the amount submitted or do I need to create new deposit account numbers?

Also, the Walmart clerk still requires ID and signature on a MoneyGram slip, though I'm hoping to convince them otherwise. It would help if you included step by stem instructions for ZipZap because they didn't even know what that is.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Walmart fail. Instead of the small amounts I usually deposit, this time I wanted to make a larger deposit. Bitinstant.com has a $500 limit so I broke it up into multiple orders. It would mean getting charged the $3.95 ZipZap fee multiple times, but that's not a big deal. I printed the PDFs out and they had the codes and payments in the amount of $503.95. Well, they didn't work because it doesn't take anything over $500. Apparently the limit is $496.05. I don't know what to do now? Can I use the same deposit forms and just change the amount submitted or do I need to create new deposit account numbers?

Also, the Walmart clerk still requires ID and signature on a MoneyGram slip, though I'm hoping to convince them otherwise. It would help if you included step by stem instructions for ZipZap because they didn't even know what that is.

If your still at the store, call me and I can change the deposit slips for you.

If not, you can do it on your mobile phone.

I'm gonna call up Moneygram tomorrow to let them know about this issue so it can be fixed.

[cbeast]

Walmart fail. Instead of the small amounts I usually deposit, this time I wanted to make a larger deposit. Bitinstant.com has a $500 limit so I broke it up into multiple orders. It would mean getting charged the $3.95 ZipZap fee multiple times, but that's not a big deal. I printed the PDFs out and they had the codes and payments in the amount of $503.95. Well, they didn't work because it doesn't take anything over $500. Apparently the limit is $496.05. I don't know what to do now? Can I use the same deposit forms and just change the amount submitted or do I need to create new deposit account numbers?

Also, the Walmart clerk still requires ID and signature on a MoneyGram slip, though I'm hoping to convince them otherwise. It would help if you included step by stem instructions for ZipZap because they didn't even know what that is.

If your still at the store, call me and I can change the deposit slips for you.

If not, you can do it on your mobile phone.

I'm gonna call up Moneygram tomorrow to let them know about this issue so it can be fixed.

I'll give it a shot tomorrow and just print out new slips.

[cbeast]

Walmart fail. Instead of the small amounts I usually deposit, this time I wanted to make a larger deposit. Bitinstant.com has a $500 limit so I broke it up into multiple orders. It would mean getting charged the $3.95 ZipZap fee multiple times, but that's not a big deal. I printed the PDFs out and they had the codes and payments in the amount of $503.95. Well, they didn't work because it doesn't take anything over $500. Apparently the limit is $496.05. I don't know what to do now? Can I use the same deposit forms and just change the amount submitted or do I need to create new deposit account numbers?

Also, the Walmart clerk still requires ID and signature on a MoneyGram slip, though I'm hoping to convince them otherwise. It would help if you included step by stem instructions for ZipZap because they didn't even know what that is.

If your still at the store, call me and I can change the deposit slips for you.

If not, you can do it on your mobile phone.

I'm gonna call up Moneygram tomorrow to let them know about this issue so it can be fixed.

I'll give it a shot tomorrow and just print out new slips.

I tried again. This time The slips were made out for exactly $500 including the $3.95 ZipZap fee. The first one went through fine. The second one would not go through because you cannot have transactions for the same amount going to the same account. I then put through my last one because it was an odd amount and it went through fine. Also, they required me to sign a MoneyGram form and provide ID for each transaction because it is in the instructions on the printout just as if I had no printout and wanted to send a MoneyGram.

[smoothie]

I'm glad to say that this service is awesome! Now I don't have to wait 3-7 business days to get money to Dwolla. Within an hour your money is in your account.

Sweeeeet!

[ThiagoCMC]

Hey Charlie!

 Your commission rate to send USD to BTC-e just doubled!?

 It was 1.99% a week ago and now it is 3.99

 Something is wrong or it is this value from now on?

Tks!
Thiago

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Hey Charlie!

 Your commission rate to send USD to BTC-e just doubled!?

 It was 1.99% a week ago and now it is 3.99

 Something is wrong or it is this value from now on?

Tks!
Thiago

No, it was always 3.99%. The 1.49% you saw was a mistake for 1 day.

Thanks!!

[ThiagoCMC]

Hey Charlie!

 Your commission rate to send USD to BTC-e just doubled!?

 It was 1.99% a week ago and now it is 3.99

 Something is wrong or it is this value from now on?

Tks!
Thiago

No, it was always 3.99%. The 1.49% you saw was a mistake for 1 day.

Thanks!!

Wrong, I already paid more than 20 "boletos" @ 1.49% to BTC-e. I'm paying that fee since my first day with Bitinstant couple months ago.

I always paid (1080 BRL) for 500 USD and receive 480 at btc-e... But now, I paid (1080 BRL) for 500 and receive 462... Too expensive... I'm paying 2.33766 BRL for 1 USD but, 1 USD here in Brazil costs 2.01 BRL... It costs too much now... 

Please, when you'll have bank deposit enabled? So, I can at least lower those fees by eliminating the also expensive "boleto"...  :-/

Best,
Thiago

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Hey Charlie!

 Your commission rate to send USD to BTC-e just doubled!?

 It was 1.99% a week ago and now it is 3.99

 Something is wrong or it is this value from now on?

Tks!
Thiago

No, it was always 3.99%. The 1.49% you saw was a mistake for 1 day.

Thanks!!

Wrong, I already paid more than 20 "boletos" @ 1.49% to BTC-e. I'm paying that fee since my first day with Bitinstant couple months ago.

I always paid (1080 BRL) for 500 USD and receive 480 at btc-e... But now, I paid (1080 BRL) for 500 and receive 462... Too expensive... I'm paying 2.33766 BRL for 1 USD but, 1 USD here in Brazil costs 2.01 BRL... It costs too much now... 

Please, when you'll have bank deposit enabled? So, I can at least lower those fees by eliminating the also expensive "boleto"...  :-/

Best,
Thiago

It was a mistake with BTCe only.

We will let you know

[Scott J]

How soon until you guys offer services in the UK?

It would be great if you teamed up with paypoint/payzone - people could buy a voucher code to be entered into your website, then voilà you have funds 

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

How soon until you guys offer services in the UK?

It would be great if you teamed up with paypoint/payzone - people could buy a voucher code to be entered into your website, then voilà you have funds 

Very very soon!

Like, super soon.

I dont know a word that conveys sooner than soon.

Do you?

[ThiagoCMC]

Also, open in Chile!
If possible, in Paraguay too!

[k]

Very very soon!

Like, super soon.

I dont know a word that conveys sooner than soon.

Do you?

now?

 

[Jan]

Very very soon!

Like, super soon.

I dont know a word that conveys sooner than soon.

Do you?

now?

 

LOL. Exactly what i was going to say.

[sunnankar]

Very very soon!

Like, super soon.

I dont know a word that conveys sooner than soon.

Do you?

It's live.

[Scott J]

How soon until you guys offer services in the UK?

It would be great if you teamed up with paypoint/payzone - people could buy a voucher code to be entered into your website, then voilà you have funds 

Very very soon!

Like, super soon.

I dont know a word that conveys sooner than soon.

Do you?

*cough*

Still waiting on this 

[candoo]

Please try to get some german stores. I would love to use cash deposit. Thats the best way to buy bitcoins

[[Tycho]]

You are not accepting LR anymore ?

[ruski]

How about Australia?

[koin]

How about Australia?

bitinstant doesn't have any cash deposit method in australia at the moment. 

there are several others with similar capability: http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins#Fixed_Rate_Exchanges_.26_Others  (search for "aud")

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

How about Australia?

bitinstant doesn't have any cash deposit method in australia at the moment. 

there are several others with similar capability: http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins#Fixed_Rate_Exchanges_.26_Others  (search for "aud")

http://mrbitcoins.com/ does cash deposits in Australia!

[AlphaMonkey]

CLOSED

[RodeoX]

Oh wow it worked!
I wasn't sure how to buy bitcoins since I am new, not anymore! 
The first CVS I went to had some problems with the phone so....
The second CVS came right thru!
Came home and found 30 Bitcoins in my wallet! 

Thanks Bitinstant!

I have tried a few places to deposit with bitinstant. So far western union has been the most hassle free and does not require ID. Funny that bitinstant is eating their lunch using their own outlets.

[ninjaboon]

any way to get btc in Malaysia?

[Stephen Gornick]

any way to get btc in Malaysia?

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102735.0

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

any way to get btc in Malaysia?

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102735.0

+1

Whoa, thanks for posting this, didn't know they existed!

This is awesome for Bitcoin

[Duderin0]

Will this service work in Mexico?

[gusti]

If you are considering on entering a deal with Mr. Charles Shrem (BitInstant CEO), think it twice.
He is not honouring a trade done with me, not responding emails, and still owes me $100.
Thanks Mr. Shrem, your word is worth $100 or less.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102561.msg1131833#msg1131833

[paraipan]

If you are considering on entering a deal with Mr. Charles Shrem (BitInstant CEO), think it twice.
He is not honouring a trade done with me, not responding emails, and still owes me $100.
Thanks Mr. Shrem, your word is worth $100 or less.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102561.msg1131833#msg1131833

Have some patience dude, he will answer all your emails. What is it? $100 MtgoxUSD? If he doesn't reply in a few hours PM me.

[unclescrooge]

* unclescrooge patiently waiting for cash deposit from europe

[Scott J]

patiently waiting for cash deposit from europe

[dancupid]

patiently waiting for cash deposit from europe

It seems like you can now use Bitinstant in 30 countries (I haven't seen an official announcement yet).
They mostly look to be via online bank transfers in usd- it's unclear if this is international transfer or to local banks, but it looks pretty exciting.

[anexsia]

I just wanted to say thank you BitInstant. I used BitInstant for the first time today and made a cash deposit at the nearest Bank Of America and by the time I got home...not only did I already have the bitcoins in my wallet but it was already at 6 confirmations. I was just super impressed with the service and will be using it from now on!

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

patiently waiting for cash deposit from europe

It seems like you can now use Bitinstant in 30 countries (I haven't seen an official announcement yet).
They mostly look to be via online bank transfers in usd- it's unclear if this is international transfer or to local banks, but it looks pretty exciting.

It's a local bank transfer, we now have 91 banks and accounts in each one.

Were still testing it, so no announcement yet, but feel free to try it. Even works on weekends!

[dancupid]

patiently waiting for cash deposit from europe

It seems like you can now use Bitinstant in 30 countries (I haven't seen an official announcement yet).
They mostly look to be via online bank transfers in usd- it's unclear if this is international transfer or to local banks, but it looks pretty exciting.

It's a local bank transfer, we now have 91 banks and accounts in each one.

Were still testing it, so no announcement yet, but feel free to try it. Even works on weekends!

In the UK, at least, it ought to be possible to use cash then - walk into a branch of your bank, fill out a giro and ask the cashier to add the necessary code/reference number?

Edit: the local bank thing makes all the difference in the world - I have a computer so obviously I'm not going to waste my time walking into a bank. I'll give it a go and report back to the marvelous people that waste their time on the bitcoin forum.

[teste]

Hi,

I see now it's possible buy bitcoins with online bank transfer on Bitinstant. I followed the steps but in the end I didn't see an option to Brazil banks.

[Scott J]

patiently waiting for cash deposit from europe

It seems like you can now use Bitinstant in 30 countries (I haven't seen an official announcement yet).
They mostly look to be via online bank transfers in usd- it's unclear if this is international transfer or to local banks, but it looks pretty exciting.

It's a local bank transfer, we now have 91 banks and accounts in each one.

Were still testing it, so no announcement yet, but feel free to try it. Even works on weekends!

This is amazing, I look forward to trying it soon

[Stephen Gornick]

we now have 91 banks and accounts in each one.

Will you be providing service in each of the countries listed with UseMyServices
 - https://www.usemyservices.com/current-country-banks/

If so, these will be the first time bitcoins are available via bank transfer in many of these countries:
 Mexico, Peru, Serbia, Czech Republic, Boznia and Herzogovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Hungary, Lithuania, Switzerland


Or is it just the list in the flags that appear on the Payment Page:



Which are appear to be (after squinting):

 - Canada
 - China
 - United Kingdom
 - Poland
 - Austria
 - Netherlands
 - Germany
 - Switzerland
 - Australia
 - Belgium

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

we now have 91 banks and accounts in each one.

Will you be providing service in each of the countries listed with UseMyServices
 - https://www.usemyservices.com/current-country-banks/

If so, these will be the first time bitcoins are available via bank transfer in many of these countries:
 Mexico, Peru, Serbia, Czech Republic, Boznia and Herzogovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Hungary, Lithuania, Switzerland

We already do, try it.

[99Percent]

Tried using it from Mexico with the bank online option but when the list of possible banks was displayed, none are from Mexico

[chemical404]

we now have 91 banks and accounts in each one.

Will you be providing service in each of the countries listed with UseMyServices
 - https://www.usemyservices.com/current-country-banks/

If so, these will be the first time bitcoins are available via bank transfer in many of these countries:
 Mexico, Peru, Serbia, Czech Republic, Boznia and Herzogovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Hungary, Lithuania, Switzerland

We already do, try it.

I tried with Lithuanian bank, and it doesn't work. BitInstant support (Rachel) was completely useless, and it took sending three messages with screenshots to UseMyFunds support for them to acknowledge that it in fact doesn't work:) Their reply was:

Hi,

We are having some technical issues that's you cannot able to make deposits.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

Sincerely,

BP

Hopefully someday this will get fixed..

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

we now have 91 banks and accounts in each one.

Will you be providing service in each of the countries listed with UseMyServices
 - https://www.usemyservices.com/current-country-banks/

If so, these will be the first time bitcoins are available via bank transfer in many of these countries:
 Mexico, Peru, Serbia, Czech Republic, Boznia and Herzogovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Hungary, Lithuania, Switzerland

We already do, try it.

I tried with Lithuanian bank, and it doesn't work. BitInstant support (Rachel) was completely useless, and it took sending three messages with screenshots to UseMyFunds support for them to acknowledge that it in fact doesn't work:) Their reply was:

Hi,

We are having some technical issues that's you cannot able to make deposits.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

Sincerely,

BP

Hopefully someday this will get fixed..

Working on it.

[tehace]

Will your cash deposit service make it to Canada any time?

[paraipan]

we now have 91 banks and accounts in each one.

Will you be providing service in each of the countries listed with UseMyServices
 - https://www.usemyservices.com/current-country-banks/

If so, these will be the first time bitcoins are available via bank transfer in many of these countries:
 Mexico, Peru, Serbia, Czech Republic, Boznia and Herzogovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Hungary, Lithuania, Switzerland

We already do, try it.

I tried with Lithuanian bank, and it doesn't work. BitInstant support (Rachel) was completely useless, and it took sending three messages with screenshots to UseMyFunds support for them to acknowledge that it in fact doesn't work:) Their reply was:

Hi,

We are having some technical issues that's you cannot able to make deposits.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

Sincerely,

BP

Hopefully someday this will get fixed..

Working on it.

Spain doesn't work either. You can select it in the list on bitinstant page, input all the info and then they call you. After that you don't find any Spanish bank available on the list 

[BlackHeartFund]

Any chance of this service coming back to Canada?

[chemical404]

I just realized I sound like an asshole in my previous post:( I'm easily annoyed lately, probably not getting enough sleep.

Sorry, Rachel.

She did suggest me I tried contacting usemyfunds directly if any problems with on-line bank transfer, and definitely was more helpful than umf support..

Anyway, any updates? This is very needed service in many countries..

Thanks.

[grantbdev]

What's the easiest way to convert a check to bitcoins in my wallet? BitInstant?

[Stephen Gornick]

What's the easiest way to convert a check to bitcoins in my wallet? BitInstant?

Personal check?   In the U.S., Camp BX is likely the only exchange to accept that funding method:
 - http://www.CampBX.com

[Stephen Gornick]

From another thread:

The site is now back online and fully operational.

Fully operational?

The pull-down menu option for "From: Major Bank Branch" is still there, but the site yields an error for any transactions using that method.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

From another thread:

The site is now back online and fully operational.

Fully operational?

The pull-down menu option for "From: Major Bank Branch" is still there, but the site yields an error for any transactions using that method.

Working on it!

[Stephen Gornick]

Working on it!

Does that mean BitInstant got a letter also?


From another thread:

We have received an email from TrustCash that they need to implement certain technical changes and until they are done with the same, they are suspending deposits for the time being.

This was just received today [...]

[louisBSAS]

NOT happy that fully functional means there is no     From Dwolla ---> to Bitcoin Address   anymore.

OK, so what's the point?  Like I would send from Dwolla to PayPal...

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

NOT happy that fully functional means there is no     From Dwolla ---> to Bitcoin Address   anymore.

OK, so what's the point?  Like I would send from Dwolla to PayPal...

http://blog.bitinstant.com/blog/2012/10/29/recent-service-disruption-and-new-features.html

[Jan]

NOT happy that fully functional means there is no     From Dwolla ---> to Bitcoin Address   anymore.

OK, so what's the point?  Like I would send from Dwolla to PayPal...

http://blog.bitinstant.com/blog/2012/10/29/recent-service-disruption-and-new-features.html

Thanks for the clarification.

[louisBSAS]

@Yankee  - Thank you for responding.  Bitcoin has indeed been a rocky road, with sites closing and new ones popping up.

I have no problem waiting. I had actually cleaned out my Dwolla balance and sent it all off to MtGox (expecting Bitinstant would be another glbse.com). Now, I plan to refund my Dwolla account as soon as direct purchase is available again - until then, I am getting good MtGox experience.

It sounds like you have some new features coming (very exciting) - when   Dwolla-->฿ address    comes back, I hope you will include at least an estimate of how much ฿ one might expect when purchasing. After finally getting Dwolla verified and money transferred there, plus the 30 day waiting period, I made two ฿ purchases with no clue as to what the $/฿ would be.  I got 12/1 for both while MtGox had changed significantly.

Either way, glad to know this is only a glitch!

[SuperTramp]

Yankee,

I sent you a PM about a failed Transaction I made about 8-9hrs ago.

Thanks.

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Yankee,

I sent you a PM about a failed Transaction I made about 8-9hrs ago.

Thanks.

Hey, yup! Resolved

[Portnoy]

Canada will be added within weeks, and other countries will follow...

It's been quite a while... any update on anything for Canada? 

Heh, Im actually sitting with them right now in San Francisco!

We're at the last steps here, just need to open up a bank account but integration is done.

More than half a year later...   were you not able to open that bank account? Did everything fall apart? 

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

Canada will be added within weeks, and other countries will follow...

It's been quite a while... any update on anything for Canada? 

Heh, Im actually sitting with them right now in San Francisco!

We're at the last steps here, just need to open up a bank account but integration is done.

More than half a year later...   were you not able to open that bank account? Did everything fall apart? 

Nope, we just have alot of development and need to prioritize other features and fixes at the moment.

[boonies4u]

I heard that you removed the option to have bitcoins sent straight to an address? Is this true?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I heard that you removed the option to have bitcoins sent straight to an address? Is this true?

Just for the night while were under attack.

[jl2012]

I heard that you removed the option to have bitcoins sent straight to an address? Is this true?

Just for the night while were under attack.

Will BitInstant still support MtGox when they stop using USD code in April?

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I heard that you removed the option to have bitcoins sent straight to an address? Is this true?

Just for the night while were under attack.

Will BitInstant still support MtGox when they stop using USD code in April?

Yes of course.

[jl2012]

I heard that you removed the option to have bitcoins sent straight to an address? Is this true?

Just for the night while were under attack.

Will BitInstant still support MtGox when they stop using USD code in April?

Yes of course.

Will it be bi-directional (i.e. other currency -> mtgox USD and mtgox USD -> other currency)? How will it work?

I ask this because I'm not sure if I should keep USD on mtgox now as I worry that I won't be able to transfer it to other exchanges later

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

I heard that you removed the option to have bitcoins sent straight to an address? Is this true?

Just for the night while were under attack.

Will BitInstant still support MtGox when they stop using USD code in April?

Yes of course.

Will it be bi-directional (i.e. other currency -> mtgox USD and mtgox USD -> other currency)? How will it work?

I ask this because I'm not sure if I should keep USD on mtgox now as I worry that I won't be able to transfer it to other exchanges later

Yes of course 

On April 10th you wont need MtGox codes anymore to withdraw.

I cant say more until its tested and implemented, but I will have the ability to 'request' a payment from your MtGox account. You login to your account, and approve the transfer to my account. All this can be done from within the BitInstant website

-Charlie

[justusranvier]

I cant say more until its tested and implemented, but I will have the ability to 'request' a payment from your MtGox account. You login to your account, and approve the transfer to my account. All this can be done from within the BitInstant website

Sounds like something Ripple was supposed to make possible.

[SkRRJyTC]

Great job guys. This will fill one major hurdle in Bitcoin which is the difficulty in actually getting Bitcoins.

Thanks 

Now if we could have the opposite. Go into Walmart with Bitcoins and exchange them for dollars you would have the perfect setup for wire transfers of money that could instantly compete with Western Union.

At least bit-pay can do a direct deposit of cash from BTC...

Should have that launched within 4 weeks or so.

Any chance there is an update?  Not being pushy with the time frame, just very excited!

We have something coming but I can't go into full details just yet

Lulz, a corruption of lol or laugh out loud.

[SkRRJyTC]

In addition to my last post I am now having trouble even using the service as intended.  I keep getting zipzap errors telling me the amount I requested is over thier limit... well what is the limit?  I am following the limits posted on the BitInstant site.  I thought I was paying 4% for this to be simple.

No response to support email yet.

OTC trades are so much easier and cheaper

[arklan]

just tried to transfer 32.6775 USD (gox code) from bitinstant to my paypal. bitinstant site says order completed, but i see no money in my paypal. having a minor freak out. yea, i know, it's not much money, but i'd REALLY like to know where it is.

order ID: e244cbbc-28f5-4374-97b9-b06de6e4cfa6

the above issue has been corrected. yay!

[drdanishkhan]

SO is it possible that my father in US can fund my Mtgox account??? if so what should be the details on the net slip.. my details or my fathers?
Thanks in advance

[ilich]

No replies to 2 emails. It's been well over 24 hours and i'm still waiting for my money.

[BCB]

No replies to 2 emails. It's been well over 24 hours and i'm still waiting for my money.

Try posting here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128314.0

[ilich]

No replies to 2 emails. It's been well over 24 hours and i'm still waiting for my money.

Try posting here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128314.0

More of a feedback then cry for help. Thanks for the info though.

[jl2012]

I heard that you removed the option to have bitcoins sent straight to an address? Is this true?

Just for the night while were under attack.

Will BitInstant still support MtGox when they stop using USD code in April?

Yes of course.

Will it be bi-directional (i.e. other currency -> mtgox USD and mtgox USD -> other currency)? How will it work?

I ask this because I'm not sure if I should keep USD on mtgox now as I worry that I won't be able to transfer it to other exchanges later

Yes of course 

On April 10th you wont need MtGox codes anymore to withdraw.

I cant say more until its tested and implemented, but I will have the ability to 'request' a payment from your MtGox account. You login to your account, and approve the transfer to my account. All this can be done from within the BitInstant website

-Charlie

When would this be implemented?

[justusranvier]

I just want to mention that something changed between now and the last time I was regularly using BitInstant - they've gotten fast.

During the last three transactions the funds were credited to my Mt Gox account before I walked away from the cash register. Last I remember it would take about 15 minutes so I could look forward to being able to trade as soon as I arrived home. Now I'm getting the "transaction complete" emails before the cashier finishes fumbling with the paperwork and hands me the receipt.

[Gareth Nelson]

I just want to mention that something changed between now and the last time I was regularly using BitInstant - they've gotten fast.

During the last three transactions the funds were credited to my Mt Gox account before I walked away from the cash register. Last I remember it would take about 15 minutes so I could look forward to being able to trade as soon as I arrived home. Now I'm getting the "transaction complete" emails before the cashier finishes fumbling with the paperwork and hands me the receipt.

Glad to hear you've noticed the improvements

[ineededausername]

Is BitInstant no longer giving out Bitstamp codes?  I only see gox, ppusd, coinapult, virwox, bitcoin, and vouchx, and I believe depositing a vouchx into Bitstamp requires Aurumxchange, which charges a 2% fee...

[jl2012]

Is BitInstant no longer giving out Bitstamp codes?  I only see gox, ppusd, coinapult, virwox, bitcoin, and vouchx, and I believe depositing a vouchx into Bitstamp requires Aurumxchange, which charges a 2% fee...

I think they have it from time to time. It's running out of stock because they are cheap then aurumxchange

[bitcoinwatchdog]

If any members have used BitInstant recently, we would appreciate some honest user reviews here:

http://bitcoinwatchdogs.com/bitcoin-exchange/bitinstant/

Thank you!

--Watchdog

[HTML5 Gordon]

I was just about to begin a new Bitinstant transaction, and I notice that sending directly to an address is missing currently - is this a temporary thing?  I know previously it has been taken away when you guys were under an attack.  Any idea when it will be back?

Thanks!

EDIT:  Sending directly to an address is back, and I was able to do my transaction earlier today.

[sal002]

How long does the PayPal exchange take?  It says it was already sent to my PP account, but I see nothing.

[sal002]

Did take some time but it went thru.  Thanks!

[Gareth Nelson]

Looks to me to be a scam of type.  Says one-hour but nothing.  Even said the money is in my Paypal account.  I guess I will have to go post my review of this service.

If this is your first paypal transaction with us our delivery partners review it manually, future transactions should be instant.

[chanberg]

Having trouble receiving my bitcoins.. Made a cash deposit yesterday at 2pm, and its been over 28 hours and still nothing..

Is the server queue that backed up?

Danny

[chanberg]

34 hours. Nothing

[gektek]

Site down?

... internal server error ...

[MPOE-PR]

Site down?

... internal server error ...

Very slow but present atm.

[gektek]

Site down?

... internal server error ...

Very slow but present atm.

Almost worked once earlier but now back to the internal server error again...

[ocminer]

No btc-e codes are taken anymore ?

[gektek]

No btc-e codes are taken anymore ?

I noticed that too...I'm hoping its a boo boo of the site having trouble lately...?

[vom]

Is anyone using this since the relaunch ?  I posted another thread about this as well:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234349

I also PM'ed Yankee - and in the past got very quick replies from him.  Trying to figure out what's going on with them.

[bitpop]

Bitinstant scammed me for $500

I sent 6 x $500 bank transfers through zipmark. They have all cleared my checking account. Bitinstant only transferred 5 transactions. They refuse to send my final 5 btc. I WANT MY BTC! And no longer replying to my emails either.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246725.0

[Melbustus]

Bitinstant scammed me for $500

I sent 6 x $500 bank transfers through zipmark. They have all cleared my checking account. Bitinstant only transferred 5 transactions. They refuse to send my final 5 btc. I WANT MY BTC! And no longer replying to my emails either.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246725.0

I'm sure you'll get your money. BitInstant just launched a new site and had some downtime from that. Other people had delays with their orders and customer service, but always got their money in the end.

[escrow.ms]

Bitinstant scammed me for $500

I sent 6 x $500 bank transfers through zipmark. They have all cleared my checking account. Bitinstant only transferred 5 transactions. They refuse to send my final 5 btc. I WANT MY BTC! And no longer replying to my emails either.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246725.0

I'm sure you'll get your money. BitInstant just launched a new site and had some downtime from that. Other people had delays with their orders and customer service, but always got their money in the end.

I find it funny that their site's title is "Time is money"
If they don't have enough bitcoin funds, then they shouldn't take orders or at least show their reserve/stock balance on their site.

[bitpop]

I want my 5 btc bitinstant!

[Yuri.]

What happened to boleto support?

[SellStuff]

Bought quite a few Bitcoins over the past month from these guys, today there seems to be no option for buying BTC?

[monkee]

I am unable to create an account on Bitinstant and the more I learn, the more serious my concerns become about using Bitinstant at all any more.  I hope you can address my concerns and add some transparency to your "identification" process.  If my concerns have already been asked/answered I would love a link because I can not find them addressed, except on your Facebook page, which is apparently set to private.

Please see more details in my post here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=251762.0

1. Can you explain in detail how your "identification" process works or provide a link if it has been explained?
    I find it quite strange that must I tell Bitinstant how much my parent's paid for a house for 15+ years ago and verify another street address from 20 years ago in order to create an account for myself.

2. What should a person do if they do not have this information, as I do not?

3. What personal information that I provided to Bitinstant was used to search for their previous street addresses and the amount my parents bought and sold their homes for?

4. Where does Bitinstant get this information?   

--

I have been trying to buy 100 BTC for 2 weeks now.  What fun it has been, I still have zero.

[bitpop]

Have you never taken a test like that before? Stop being a scaredy cat.
That information is compiled by the credit agencies.
It's called knowledge based authentication.

[monkee]

Have you never taken a test like that before? Stop being a scaredy cat.
That information is compiled by the credit agencies.
It's called knowledge based authentication.

No, I have not seen anything like that before, which may explain my apprehension.  I am asking how they linked it to me as I don't believe I provided enough information about myself that should allow them to.

[Trader Steve]

Have you never taken a test like that before? Stop being a scaredy cat.
That information is compiled by the credit agencies.
It's called knowledge based authentication.

No, I have not seen anything like that before, which may explain my apprehension.  I am asking how they linked it to me as I don't believe I provided enough information about myself that should allow them to.

Yeah, it's like a built in credit bureau that knows everything about you and matches you up with your ID through the various questions. Creepy if you ask me. That is why, if you value privacy, that you should do all of your trades locally through person-to-person transactions.

[monkee]

Have you never taken a test like that before? Stop being a scaredy cat.
That information is compiled by the credit agencies.
It's called knowledge based authentication.

No, I have not seen anything like that before, which may explain my apprehension.  I am asking how they linked it to me as I don't believe I provided enough information about myself that should allow them to.

Yeah, it's like a built in credit bureau that knows everything about you and matches you up with your ID through the various questions. Creepy if you ask me. That is why, if you value privacy, that you should do all of your trades locally through person-to-person transactions.

Is it known what "markers" they use?  I did not provide an accurate name, street address or telephone number.  It seems IP address or email address are enough?  That doesn't seem right. 

If they can pull such detailed information, I assume they know my age so why would they REQUIRE a person to know the EXACT dollar amount their parents payed for a home when they were 10 YEARS OLD in order to even log into their site to see the features.  Stupid if you ask me.  If my parents were deceased or we were not on speaking terms, I would never have been able to log in.

[bitpop]

Yeah I had to know my dads bday which I haven't spoken to in forever.

[xjack]

Mt. Gox shenanigans going on there right now.  $500 stuck in process.  Their systems must be good, I got an email about the transaction failure quickly.  Heard nothing since.  Have been a regular with BI for some time, not anymore if they drag this out.

ZipZap and BI confirmed receipt of payment.  Its only two days, but price is already up $10 per btc. 

> Transaction ID: 7f1277f0-a093-410f-aa14-afff36bc33e0

[SellStuff]

Mt. Gox shenanigans going on there right now.  $500 stuck in process.  Their systems must be good, I got an email about the transaction failure quickly.  Heard nothing since.  Have been a regular with BI for some time, not anymore if they drag this out.

ZipZap and BI confirmed receipt of payment.  Its only two days, but price is already up $10 per btc. 

> Transaction ID: 7f1277f0-a093-410f-aa14-afff36bc33e0

From their main page: We are conducting maintenance on our backend that will affect transactions for Mt Gox and bitcoin purchases temporarily.

Figures they'd do "maintenance" when BTC prices are low. 

[xjack]

Mt. Gox shenanigans going on there right now.  $500 stuck in process.  Their systems must be good, I got an email about the transaction failure quickly.  Heard nothing since.  Have been a regular with BI for some time, not anymore if they drag this out.

ZipZap and BI confirmed receipt of payment.  Its only two days, but price is already up $10 per btc. 

> Transaction ID: 7f1277f0-a093-410f-aa14-afff36bc33e0

From their main page: We are conducting maintenance on our backend that will affect transactions for Mt Gox and bitcoin purchases temporarily.

Figures they'd do "maintenance" when BTC prices are low. 

They could have _easily_ disabled the purchase option.  Instead they chose to take monies and claim it's a back-end problem. 

Still no response from my initial ticket on Saturday, or any followup from their automated e-mail to me on Saturday.

I'm giving them 72 more hours to contact me. (120 hours total - the exact amount of time they give users to complete transactions)

Then I'm contacting ZipZap and Western Union. 

[arklan]

ugh... i have a small amount of money stuck too. bitcoin to paypal - guess it involves gox to sell the coin. doh.

[xjack]

Well...  I got an email from a person there.  Total stonewall. 

JUL 08, 2013  |  05:17PM EDT
Keishia replied:
Hi there,
Thank you for contacting BitInstant support.

We are looking further into your issue, but I wanted to reach out and let you know that we did receive your inquiry and we're working on a resolution. We will contact you when we make any progress.

Please refrain from opening additional support cases in the meantime - if you have any questions, please contact us here.
Have a great day!

Keishia
Customer Service Agent, BitInstant

[RoadTrain]

They held my $300 I sent in 2 transactions for 2 weeks.
Recently I got the first $200 to bitstamp. THey charged fees though somewhere I heard that they don't charge fees when the payment is delayed.

Now I am waiting for the remaning $100 but not getting any replies. I included all info about both transactions when I opened the ticket but they sent only $200 (first tx) and talk to me like it's been resolved.

JUL 03, 2013  |  05:18PM EDT
Alyssa replied:
Hey there.

Your funds have been manually processed into your Bitstamp account. We apologize for the extreme delay in fulfilling this order. We appreciate your patience while we worked through some technical issues. You should see the funds in your account soon.
 Best,

 Alyssa
 Customer Service Manager, BitInstant

 Questions? Contact us at desk@bitinstant.com.

Should I open another inquiry?

Be that as it may, I'm not gonna use them again.

[monkee]

Be that as it may, I'm not gonna use them again.

i am done with them as well. they made several k in commission alone off of me in the past and i never had one issue.  guess all good things come to an end

[xjack]

6 days... no funds, no email.  BTC climbed over 30 since I deposited.

Would rather have the fiat back at this point...

[xjack]

Received e-mail and payment an hour ago.  This is 6 days after initial transaction of July 6.

It was really nice of you to refund my ZipZap and BI fees and manually processed the payment, which is appreciated.

However, the 24 hour high price from July 5 to July 7 was $ 71.  I received the correct amount of bitcoin, based on a $ 93 price.

I'm not going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and will assume BI bought at $71 and sold me at $ 93. 


5.4BTC * $22 per BTC = You just lost a repeat customer.