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June 19, 2016, 01:14:40 PM
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Market is looking healthier by the minute. The buy support has more than doubled since yesterday. I am only talking about the major market, Poloniex.

There's still a lot of Factom for in sell pressure: 440K (or roughly 5% of all in existence).

Shorts are being given out loans at nearly zero interest, if anyone here is doing this stop. Why bother loaning out this low when you will see nearly no return, allow shorts to slam lows at no cost, and devalue your position simultaneously?



It's very cheap to open shorts or borrow FCT for sell walls. That it is cheap to borrow is also a market sentiment that it is a bad deal to short.

We see a lot of sell pressure on FCT and we need bulls to slay them. At some point a lot of short sellers will be burned (you saw a 40% increase over one of the many things Factom is working on). Now imagine taking a short position here and yesterday Factom announces something. It's risky as hell to sit in a position like that.


People who have short positions borrow Factom to put them into sell walls. A strong buyer entering the market with 100-200 BTC will be enough to tip the scales. This coupled with positive news will be enough to put Factom at new levels. Factom price will not grow gradually as it trades on margin it will be similar to the other "blue chip" coins meaning that market sentiment is often exaggerated by 2.5x and it works both ways as Factom market is well aware.

Now does anybody know how much the foundation holds of it's own currency?

And can we get a simple wallet to use so that people can store their coins off exchanges more easily. I can contribute to a Factom bounty to whomever does this. Right now Poloniex is a systemic risk for Factom because of the amount traded and stored there and that is the wrong start and mindset for longevity.

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June 19, 2016, 01:25:08 PM
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Who gives a flying fuck about the prices we have Tiana Tongue If i were a billionaire i would give her all my money lol, brains and beauty like that is more rare than any crypto Roll Eyes

take a shower bro .... if Tiana has brains she'd never associate with any dude on BTT

...Tiana is cool for sure. Seems very smart saw her on a few youtube videos. Good vibes glad she is apart of Factom.
Really like what shes says here.  https://youtu.be/OVaxlDvOzbQ
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June 19, 2016, 02:43:18 PM
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Factom Use Case: Unlocking $9 Trillion in Land Value: https://youtu.be/DxgoyMOrMBM
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June 19, 2016, 05:03:36 PM
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Market is looking healthier by the minute. The buy support has more than doubled since yesterday. I am only talking about the major market, Poloniex.

There's still a lot of Factom for in sell pressure: 440K (or roughly 5% of all in existence).

Shorts are being given out loans at nearly zero interest, if anyone here is doing this stop. Why bother loaning out this low when you will see nearly no return, allow shorts to slam lows at no cost, and devalue your position simultaneously?



It's very cheap to open shorts or borrow FCT for sell walls. That it is cheap to borrow is also a market sentiment that it is a bad deal to short.

We see a lot of sell pressure on FCT and we need bulls to slay them. At some point a lot of short sellers will be burned (you saw a 40% increase over one of the many things Factom is working on). Now imagine taking a short position here and yesterday Factom announces something. It's risky as hell to sit in a position like that.


People who have short positions borrow Factom to put them into sell walls. A strong buyer entering the market with 100-200 BTC will be enough to tip the scales. This coupled with positive news will be enough to put Factom at new levels. Factom price will not grow gradually as it trades on margin it will be similar to the other "blue chip" coins meaning that market sentiment is often exaggerated by 2.5x and it works both ways as Factom market is well aware.

Now does anybody know how much the foundation holds of it's own currency?

And can we get a simple wallet to use so that people can store their coins off exchanges more easily. I can contribute to a Factom bounty to whomever does this. Right now Poloniex is a systemic risk for Factom because of the amount traded and stored there and that is the wrong start and mindset for longevity.

This is probably due to Ether exodus. However, it seems there re preparing fix for the Dao problem which should bring back calm sea for the smart contracts group of coins.

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June 19, 2016, 06:16:02 PM
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We will likely see an exodus from ETH due to risk aversion and that refuge BTC will flow into FCT. M2 release, post M2 news and in a month we will likely see ETH/FCT parity around .01 area.

Nah, I do like Factom and the idea behind it but Ether s still and will remain number one. As you can it has started recovering and it will get back even stronger then before. Factom still needs to show what it can do in the future.


It's true what you say,  that "Factom still needs to show what it can do in the future". It's not finished yet. But what they build and what they will offer is something like a logical next step in the blockchain-industry. It's kind of simple in comparison to some other projects.

And what you say is even more true for Ethereum. If you subtract all hype around it, if you subtract the "vitalik-myth" of a genius wonder-boy we see a very ambitious project with the goal to develop smart contracts on the blockchain. Does that work so far? Yes, but in a way that an attacker can turn a smart contract against itself, against it's original purpose. I'm not a coder and the majority of Investors and Speculators are not. But all signs I see point on: Ethereum has a lot of problems to solve and some plans are a very high risk (I consider Casper as a high risk for example, in short- and longterm). I don't know how much Ethereum should be used to justify a marketcap above 1 billion. I'm not even sure if a marketcap above 100 Mio would be justified. It's hype in my eyes.

But, I don't say Ethereum is a bad project. It's a very good project and it has value for the whole Crypto-world. But maybe more like the first touch-screens in the 80's or some other early innovations that really reached the market 10 or 20 years later. Quiet often it wasn't the original Developers and companies who realized the high ambitions. And that could also turn out to be Ethereums destin - that others will learn a lot from Ethereum and other projects in the smart-contract-area while Ethereum could simply die over time. It's maybe too early to make a real business out of smart contracts.

Factom: Like I've said... it's the logical next step. It's not that complex like Ethereum. It is a business-model that already would be successful if there would be providers. That's just one reason why Factom could benefit from the first-mover-advantage while Ethereum maybe more builds the ground for others to do it better.

And: Factoms marketcap is at $ 11 Mio. Ethereum is at $ 1 bn. That's kind of a huge spread if we think about the above. And while I exactly know what it needs to justify Factoms marketcap and while there is near to zero hype in Factom, I have no idea why Ethereum should be that high-priced (still, after the drop) and I would recommend everybody to think always(!) this way and not the other way around, to believe something must have "this" value because so many others are willing to pay so much and after they've bought into it they are convinced that lower prices are "cheap" and that others are stupid to sell etc. They really believe it - but without really knowing why.

I'm really not that idealistic that I would say it's stupid to buy something because of a hype. I did that, too (LISK). But I believe it's not smart to be invested when things become clearer and the hype is about to expire. That is what happens now with Ethereum. In Factom there never was such a hype and if there should ever be really a hype it will be based on real success. The prices will also overdrive and form a bubble and the bubble will burst right after like they always do, but the price will have a real base because of real use. Ethereums price-base is unknown. Not sure if it would be undervalued if it would be just at $ 30 Mio for example. In my opinion it's a "computer-science-project", like a laboratory. I have some doubts that it will lead to a viable business while I have zero doubts that Ethereum will have huge competitors in future.

I'm still the same opinion like many months ago that Factom doesn't get the attention it deserves from the Crypto-Community and Investors. But that's not a weakness but the opposite. Factom doesn't even need it. Ethereum on the other hand will most likely break with some "Blockchain-rules" and risk it's credibility to bail out DAO-Investors. And why? Because the biggest Investors are from the team. Most likely they will make decisions against the system out of economical reasons - before there is really another business-model for the system than betting on exchanges.


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June 19, 2016, 06:47:19 PM
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It looks like this is just the start the DHS deal. Some huge opportunities coming for additional contract awards related. Great work Factom team!

https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=aa4b95e7c268b0baf27e5122c9329542

https://www.fbo.gov/spg/DHS/OCPO/DHS-OCPO/HSHQDC-16-R-00035/listing.html

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June 19, 2016, 06:56:28 PM
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It looks like this is just the start the DHS deal. Some huge opportunities coming for additional contract awards related. Great work Factom team!

https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=aa4b95e7c268b0baf27e5122c9329542

https://www.fbo.gov/spg/DHS/OCPO/DHS-OCPO/HSHQDC-16-R-00035/listing.html
Good find.

While those sums will eventually be drops in the bucket for Factom, when in startup mode, every bit helps.
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June 19, 2016, 08:28:41 PM
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I see value in FACTOM being able to anchor into other blockchains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8dey4Uo5eY
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June 19, 2016, 09:05:59 PM
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I seem to be stuck at block 41858

16:56:19 2016-06-19 [INF] BMGR: At 41858: syncing to block height 41953 from peer 52.19.117.149:8108

any clue what's up? I'm on ubuntu and run factomd and it doesn't seem to do anything after printing the above. Would running fctwallet block factomd from syncing or something?
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June 19, 2016, 10:02:18 PM
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I seem to be stuck at block 41858

16:56:19 2016-06-19 [INF] BMGR: At 41858: syncing to block height 41953 from peer 52.19.117.149:8108

any clue what's up? I'm on ubuntu and run factomd and it doesn't seem to do anything after printing the above. Would running fctwallet block factomd from syncing or something?

This is new!!! its lunch time.
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June 19, 2016, 10:15:41 PM
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I seem to be stuck at block 41858

16:56:19 2016-06-19 [INF] BMGR: At 41858: syncing to block height 41953 from peer 52.19.117.149:8108

any clue what's up? I'm on ubuntu and run factomd and it doesn't seem to do anything after printing the above. Would running fctwallet block factomd from syncing or something?

No issues for me running on Windows.
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June 19, 2016, 11:47:34 PM
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I seem to be stuck at block 41858

16:56:19 2016-06-19 [INF] BMGR: At 41858: syncing to block height 41953 from peer 52.19.117.149:8108

any clue what's up? I'm on ubuntu and run factomd and it doesn't seem to do anything after printing the above. Would running fctwallet block factomd from syncing or something?

No issues for me running on Windows.


All good on my end. Windows 10.
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June 20, 2016, 12:04:01 AM
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looking at factom-d.log it writes lines like this for the first 2 mins or so of running then stops. factomd is still running & using up a bunch of cpu&memory so it's doing something.

2016-06-19T19:57:25-04:00 [INFO] PROC: Loaded 2 blocks for chain: 2e1466d8f8bc7cf194562e271e529727ad25f7b0d7845a16720fe69f68ad4e84
2016-06-19T19:57:25-04:00 [INFO] PROC: Loaded 4 blocks for chain: 64b8652796f956525d5c4ed1a7b8dbb3aa9defca94125f212afe667955b178fd
2016-06-19T19:57:25-04:00 [INFO] PROC: Loaded 1 blocks for chain: b8f75ead26adec7e378454c2279caaca9388a491881fc15df0629ad0481c7b51
2016-06-19T19:57:25-04:00 [INFO] PROC: Loaded 1 blocks for chain: bf63f23a505f04f5c0dd439ccbddf223920e8049f3bcc7da58421ec4eb41bd72

$ factom-cli get height
41858

still at 41858 after leaving it for 30+ mins multiple times
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June 20, 2016, 12:12:01 AM
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The best way to accumulate a lot of Factom is to lend your existing balance so that traders use it to short.


This could be one of the most legendary plays in the making. Watch for when the sell side decreases. This is when traders are not lending it in large amounts.

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June 20, 2016, 01:49:42 AM
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International Business Times:


US Department of Homeland Security awards Factom funding for blockchain IoT project
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/us-department-homeland-security-awards-factom-funding-blockchain-iot-project-1566239?utm_source=[Suspicious link removed]&utm_medium=twitter

Why factom team hasn't uploaded this news at twitter or their channel?
It's rediculous for me. I guess factom team doesn't think it is important what they are doing.
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June 20, 2016, 01:54:10 AM
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International Business Times:


US Department of Homeland Security awards Factom funding for blockchain IoT project
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/us-department-homeland-security-awards-factom-funding-blockchain-iot-project-1566239?utm_source=[Suspicious link removed]&utm_medium=twitter

Why factom team hasn't uploaded this news at twitter or their channel?
It's rediculous for me. I guess factom team doesn't think it is important what they are doing.

The news broke late Friday.  I suspect most of the team has taken the weekend off as it looks like they're going to have a busy week.  Point being, I'm sure it'll be linked to on Monday.
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June 20, 2016, 02:18:26 AM
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International Business Times:


US Department of Homeland Security awards Factom funding for blockchain IoT project
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/us-department-homeland-security-awards-factom-funding-blockchain-iot-project-1566239?utm_source=[Suspicious link removed]&utm_medium=twitter

Why factom team hasn't uploaded this news at twitter or their channel?
It's rediculous for me. I guess factom team doesn't think it is important what they are doing.

Its possible we see the news early this week alongside other updates is my guess
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June 20, 2016, 02:21:13 AM
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International Business Times:


US Department of Homeland Security awards Factom funding for blockchain IoT project
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/us-department-homeland-security-awards-factom-funding-blockchain-iot-project-1566239?utm_source=[Suspicious link removed]&utm_medium=twitter

Why factom team hasn't uploaded this news at twitter or their channel?
It's rediculous for me. I guess factom team doesn't think it is important what they are doing.

Check out Paul Snow and David Johnston's comments on Reddit related to this article - they definitely believe it's important.

https://www.reddit.com/user/PaulSnow/comments/

https://www.reddit.com/user/DJohnston/comments/

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June 20, 2016, 03:08:51 AM
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I dont think it is possible for FACTOM to reach 5 USD when it is not in use? Is this possible with the current supply being minted every month?
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I seem to be stuck at block 41858

Just to update, I deleted the ~/.factom/ldb directory and when it redownloaded it was able to properly sync.
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