GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[Mr Felt]

And don't forget... ALL Paycoins purchased on PayBase (Registered... but not by GAW...) will be purchased from the markets, right?  Why oh why then did we hear that all Paycoins purchased on PayBase will be from the pre-mine?

What they never premined! 

https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/532173907718332417

This is taken out of context. The real fact is that GAW mined just like everyone else and were very lucky to find that first block with 12 million coins in it. To ensure fair competition they did it 12 hours before the wallet was released so that evil trolls and dumpers couldn't interfere. True story.

And I'm very sure that if someone had been able to mine that first magic block they wouldn't of reverted the blockchain back to 0... definitely...

GAW's own paycoin.com terms admit that they premined paycoin: http://imgur.com/VMIKafg

[coinits]

And don't forget... ALL Paycoins purchased on PayBase (Registered... but not by GAW...) will be purchased from the markets, right?  Why oh why then did we hear that all Paycoins purchased on PayBase will be from the pre-mine?

What they never premined! 

https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/532173907718332417

This is taken out of context. The real fact is that GAW mined just like everyone else and were very lucky to find that first block with 12 million coins in it. To ensure fair competition they did it 12 hours before the wallet was released so that evil trolls and dumpers couldn't interfere. True story.

And I'm very sure that if someone had been able to mine that first magic block they wouldn't of reverted the blockchain back to 0... definitely...

GAW's own paycoin.com terms admit that they premined paycoin: http://imgur.com/VMIKafg

[pie27]

I just figured out who tomcat is

https://hashtalk.org/user/tony54

Huge gaw supporter

You used the same signature on both sites

The reality is most addresses are either lower than the monthly limit would be and there are a lot of people with double or more addresses. So I ask Josh to consider this idea for the sole purpose of restoring confidence and credibility in GAW/Paycoin. This is not really for the purpose of helping out the people still here because we wouldn’t still be on hashtalk if we thought this was a scam. This is for those people in the middle that see the negative that is posted and the evidence that is very damning in terms of the floor.

I see why you are in defense mode

What a detective you are. Oh wait I post a page or two ago who I am. I also posted about 30 pages before that. Suchmoon posted my screen name when they thought my thread was shadowed banned. So haha you are amazing. Please go on pepsi’s website and tell me what they sell you tool.  
Also I am a big supporter. Lets see I have stated I am a supporter of what this coin was supposed to be. I have been with GAW a long time. I was very critical about them a few days ago now I have tried to give them a suggestion if they really want to make this work.
 I will help you out even more. I took over Firecoin after carsen dumped it and I tried to save it for months. I spent a lot of money trying to help that coin but it failed because of its past. I then started Trader coin and from the beginning told everyone that it was meant to be for everyone and that it was a test coin to see if people would put forth the work to make a coin better. Surprise surprise no one did anything. People were amazed that I held the premine until it was worthless. Next I tried to launch Envycoin using hashlets and other cloud mining services trying to create a stable coin. At that time I had a few Skype chat meetings with Carlos (josh’s brother) I have checked out their business licenses and other details about their past. I asked Carlos many different questions to try and determine if they were a scam. This was still early days of Hashlets. Hmm lets see. You can google me and have a good idea of who I am. If you stop by and you are polit (and of age) I might give you a beer. If not well I will let you mind go where it wants with that. I have not tried to hide who I am nor do I only post pro GAW things. Unlike you I try to use reasoning and if I post crap about someone or something I like to have an idea about what I am talking about. Am I perfect no, do I lose my cool  rarely, do I go around calling everyone and everything I disagree with a scam because I do not understand it no. All I have said to you is use proof to justify you calling them a scammer and I also gave you why I do not outright say they are scammers. They can correct what they screwed up. It is still early. However I do think the time is running out and they sure seem to be walking a tight rope and I am not sure which side they will fall on. If they are trying to actually make this coin as they say I want them to succeed but they need to fix things if they want too. Let’s see what else do you want to know about me. I am not hiding behind made up new accounts. I speak what I believe and if I say something wrong opps but I said it so I will live up to it. Half of these posts of from new accounts so it is probably nothing more than a few people posting from different accounts and want to make it look like bigger support for their side. If you want my shoe size and other personal info you have to PM me for that I don’t just give that out.    

Think you would spend less time trying to save paycoin more time flying planes yes I can research too And that's alot of failed crypto you should post on here what you are investing in so we all know where not to go.  http://www.pepsico.com/Brands

[vancefox]

The first thing I´d do if I had my own coin trading on my own exchange

would be to set up bots to automatically ban those who tried to place

sell orders.

Don't give him ideas.

Him and his acolytes have been banning dissenters since well... since as long as I can remember...

[galdur]

The first thing I´d do if I had my own coin trading on my own exchange

would be to set up bots to automatically ban those who tried to place

sell orders.

Don't give him ideas.

This would ensure correct prices and also result in all coin from other

exchanges gravitating to mine.

[I_IZ_CEO]

I just figured out who tomcat is

https://hashtalk.org/user/tony54

Huge gaw supporter

You used the same signature on both sites

The reality is most addresses are either lower than the monthly limit would be and there are a lot of people with double or more addresses. So I ask Josh to consider this idea for the sole purpose of restoring confidence and credibility in GAW/Paycoin. This is not really for the purpose of helping out the people still here because we wouldn’t still be on hashtalk if we thought this was a scam. This is for those people in the middle that see the negative that is posted and the evidence that is very damning in terms of the floor.

I see why you are in defense mode

What a detective you are. Oh wait I post a page or two ago who I am. I also posted about 30 pages before that. Suchmoon posted my screen name when they thought my thread was shadowed banned. So haha you are amazing. Please go on pepsi’s website and tell me what they sell you tool.  
Also I am a big supporter. Lets see I have stated I am a supporter of what this coin was supposed to be. I have been with GAW a long time. I was very critical about them a few days ago now I have tried to give them a suggestion if they really want to make this work.
 I will help you out even more. I took over Firecoin after carsen dumped it and I tried to save it for months. I spent a lot of money trying to help that coin but it failed because of its past. I then started Trader coin and from the beginning told everyone that it was meant to be for everyone and that it was a test coin to see if people would put forth the work to make a coin better. Surprise surprise no one did anything. People were amazed that I held the premine until it was worthless. Next I tried to launch Envycoin using hashlets and other cloud mining services trying to create a stable coin. At that time I had a few Skype chat meetings with Carlos (josh’s brother) I have checked out their business licenses and other details about their past. I asked Carlos many different questions to try and determine if they were a scam. This was still early days of Hashlets. Hmm lets see. You can google me and have a good idea of who I am. If you stop by and you are polit (and of age) I might give you a beer. If not well I will let you mind go where it wants with that. I have not tried to hide who I am nor do I only post pro GAW things. Unlike you I try to use reasoning and if I post crap about someone or something I like to have an idea about what I am talking about. Am I perfect no, do I lose my cool  rarely, do I go around calling everyone and everything I disagree with a scam because I do not understand it no. All I have said to you is use proof to justify you calling them a scammer and I also gave you why I do not outright say they are scammers. They can correct what they screwed up. It is still early. However I do think the time is running out and they sure seem to be walking a tight rope and I am not sure which side they will fall on. If they are trying to actually make this coin as they say I want them to succeed but they need to fix things if they want too. Let’s see what else do you want to know about me. I am not hiding behind made up new accounts. I speak what I believe and if I say something wrong opps but I said it so I will live up to it. Half of these posts of from new accounts so it is probably nothing more than a few people posting from different accounts and want to make it look like bigger support for their side. If you want my shoe size and other personal info you have to PM me for that I don’t just give that out.    

@tom14cat14, why not tell us about when you were part of their customer service? Hiding something, we do have proof and here it is! CAUGHT!!!

AKA Peggy!!!



Does that 286 have a 5 1/4-inch or 8-inch floppy?

[vancefox]

PayCoin Terms and Conditions archived.  Kind of difficult to find on their main page... but here you go!

http://web.archive.org/web/20150105010807/http://www.paycoin.com/pages/terms-and-conditions

EDIT: And here's the "White Paper"

http://web.archive.org/web/20150105011047/https://c91475e716c8925e05c6-d2659d433205cf4410415f8dd63807af.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/paycoinwhitepaper.pdf

Look at Section 5.2 POS, page 11

AND 6.2.2 For the prime controllers, page 23

[I_IZ_CEO]

Its crazy how these commercials and gaw/paycoin/hashlets/customer service are almost exactly the same. From fees to reward points and everything else.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=peggy+commercials

[vancefox]

Ok, I know I'm part of the group that Mr. GAW says don't understand context or can't read or whatever... but his white paper, archive link below, specifically said prime controllers stake @ 5%.  Nowhere does the white paper show 10, 20, 100, or 350 % stake rates... ANYWHERE in that white paper...

http://web.archive.org/web/20150105011047/https://c91475e716c8925e05c6-d2659d433205cf4410415f8dd63807af.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/paycoinwhitepaper.pdf

[T0urist]

Theories on who is pumping xpy?

Not me.  I can guarantee that.  But I do recall Josh saying something about finding another "investor".

prolly the boiler room calling all our grandmothers!!!

[owlcatz]

Ok, I know I'm part of the group that Mr. GAW says don't understand context or can't read or whatever... but his white paper, archive link below, specifically said prime controllers stake @ 5%.  Nowhere does the white paper show 10, 20, 100, or 350 % stake rates... ANYWHERE in that white paper...

http://web.archive.org/web/20150105011047/https://c91475e716c8925e05c6-d2659d433205cf4410415f8dd63807af.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/paycoinwhitepaper.pdf

The whitepaper was never anything taken seriously aka PrimeController.xls etc.  

further, this is an outright scamcoin. it screams of it by now. when will it really end ..  

[pie27]

Ok, I know I'm part of the group that Mr. GAW says don't understand context or can't read or whatever... but his white paper, archive link below, specifically said prime controllers stake @ 5%.  Nowhere does the white paper show 10, 20, 100, or 350 % stake rates... ANYWHERE in that white paper...

http://web.archive.org/web/20150105011047/https://c91475e716c8925e05c6-d2659d433205cf4410415f8dd63807af.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/paycoinwhitepaper.pdf

http://s16.postimg.org/3sfayhk85/primes.png

Dude you don't have to worry about any of this Tomcat talked to Carlos Josh's brother he said its not a scam go ahead send him your credit card info and they will sell you paycoins today only $25 and Tomcat will throw in a jody and paul special trail cam for $150 billed weekly will 200% interest rate

[bananafana]

GAW's own paycoin.com terms admit that they premined paycoin: http://imgur.com/VMIKafg

It's not a secret. The point is that back in November they were saying they wouldn't premine.
https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/532173907718332417
Then a few weeks later, they did a massive 96% premine.

In the overall scheme of GAW things it's a minor point but it's part of the big picture.

For a premine that large they might as well have just done a 100% premine and skipped the POW stage. It would have looked less skeezy and they could have sold a ton of those coins to their loyal followers in an ICO on paybase with a mandatory lock-down period or something. So much of what they've done doesn't make any sense at all as a legitimate business plan, but it's also a stupid way to design a scam. Just dumb no matter what they were thinking.

[T0urist]

You do realize once people can buy XPY with credit cards, hackers are going to buy them with cards they hacked, dump them for BTC, then dump that for fiat? LOL Josh is making it too easy to crash this thing at this point. The major CC will see how much fraud is going on and shut er down.

josh wont care as some charges wont be disputed. all money in the end to him. the hyperinflation will be fixed. the dickhead is just wanting to increase xpy supply now as past 12 million premine he'd look too suspicious. hes worried dont think he isnt. his big fail was thinking after great auk wireless he could do it bigger and more profitable. he'll learn soon that angry internet people dont make good scam targets.

[Searing]

You do realize once people can buy XPY with credit cards, hackers are going to buy them with cards they hacked, dump them for BTC, then dump that for fiat? LOL Josh is making it too easy to crash this thing at this point. The major CC will see how much fraud is going on and shut er down.

josh wont care as some charges wont be disputed. all money in the end to him. the hyperinflation will be fixed. the dickhead is just wanting to increase xpy supply now as past 12 million premine he'd look too suspicious. hes worried dont think he isnt. his big fail was thinking after great auk wireless he could do it bigger and more profitable. he'll learn soon that angry internet people dont make good scam targets.

not sure about that my amex card i think they don't refund on what they call 'virtual services' ie electronic games like WoW etc so they probably will not refund
on Gaw purchases...ask....but you combine currency and what they call virtual services....(assuming i remember this right) could be iffy

by all means if you did pay via cc see about a refund...but emphaisis on the cloud based mining as a service .....don't talk about the paycoin option directly
just in case

my 2c worth again just form what i remember do your own research

[WaffleMaster]

You do realize once people can buy XPY with credit cards, hackers are going to buy them with cards they hacked, dump them for BTC, then dump that for fiat? LOL Josh is making it too easy to crash this thing at this point. The major CC will see how much fraud is going on and shut er down.

josh wont care as some charges wont be disputed. all money in the end to him. the hyperinflation will be fixed. the dickhead is just wanting to increase xpy supply now as past 12 million premine he'd look too suspicious. hes worried dont think he isnt. his big fail was thinking after great auk wireless he could do it bigger and more profitable. he'll learn soon that angry internet people dont make good scam targets.

not sure about that my amex card i think they don't refund on what they call 'virtual services' ie electronic games like WoW etc so they probably will not refund
on Gaw purchases...ask....but you combine currency and what they call virtual services....(assuming i remember this right) could be iffy

by all means if you did pay via cc see about a refund...but emphaisis on the cloud based mining as a service .....don't talk about the paycoin option directly
just in case

my 2c worth again just form what i remember do your own research

Hackers will launder stolen credit cards through XPY no matter what price it is, even if it costs the 20% fees. Doesn't matter what price xpy is the only thing that matters is market depth, which there is none of, so it will be a race between who can cash out as many stolen credit cards fast as possible before it's 0 sats lol

[KC6TTR]

Ill Gladly Help with GAW GATE

The site is up. Working on the backend now.

https://www.gawgate.com

Scott-

[tom14cat14]

Ok, I know I'm part of the group that Mr. GAW says don't understand context or can't read or whatever... but his white paper, archive link below, specifically said prime controllers stake @ 5%.  Nowhere does the white paper show 10, 20, 100, or 350 % stake rates... ANYWHERE in that white paper...

http://web.archive.org/web/20150105011047/https://c91475e716c8925e05c6-d2659d433205cf4410415f8dd63807af.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/paycoinwhitepaper.pdf

Dude you don't have to worry about any of this Tomcat talked to Carlos Josh's brother he said its not a scam go ahead send him your credit card info and they will sell you paycoins today only $25 and Tomcat will throw in a jody and paul special trail cam for $150 billed weekly will 200% interest rate

Wow good job. I am amazed. How about we meet up for a beer some time. I am in MN oh wait you already knew that. I have said I am no longer sure about GAW. At the time they seemed legit but I am not sure. How about you post some info about you. Oh wait you are to scared. At least I am Man enough not to owrry about a ouke like you. Let me know if you want more info about me. I have never worked for GAW but I have supported them and might be screwed by them.

[tom14cat14]

I just figured out who tomcat is

https://hashtalk.org/user/tony54

Huge gaw supporter

You used the same signature on both sites

The reality is most addresses are either lower than the monthly limit would be and there are a lot of people with double or more addresses. So I ask Josh to consider this idea for the sole purpose of restoring confidence and credibility in GAW/Paycoin. This is not really for the purpose of helping out the people still here because we wouldn’t still be on hashtalk if we thought this was a scam. This is for those people in the middle that see the negative that is posted and the evidence that is very damning in terms of the floor.

I see why you are in defense mode

What a detective you are. Oh wait I post a page or two ago who I am. I also posted about 30 pages before that. Suchmoon posted my screen name when they thought my thread was shadowed banned. So haha you are amazing. Please go on pepsi’s website and tell me what they sell you tool.  
Also I am a big supporter. Lets see I have stated I am a supporter of what this coin was supposed to be. I have been with GAW a long time. I was very critical about them a few days ago now I have tried to give them a suggestion if they really want to make this work.
 I will help you out even more. I took over Firecoin after carsen dumped it and I tried to save it for months. I spent a lot of money trying to help that coin but it failed because of its past. I then started Trader coin and from the beginning told everyone that it was meant to be for everyone and that it was a test coin to see if people would put forth the work to make a coin better. Surprise surprise no one did anything. People were amazed that I held the premine until it was worthless. Next I tried to launch Envycoin using hashlets and other cloud mining services trying to create a stable coin. At that time I had a few Skype chat meetings with Carlos (josh’s brother) I have checked out their business licenses and other details about their past. I asked Carlos many different questions to try and determine if they were a scam. This was still early days of Hashlets. Hmm lets see. You can google me and have a good idea of who I am. If you stop by and you are polit (and of age) I might give you a beer. If not well I will let you mind go where it wants with that. I have not tried to hide who I am nor do I only post pro GAW things. Unlike you I try to use reasoning and if I post crap about someone or something I like to have an idea about what I am talking about. Am I perfect no, do I lose my cool  rarely, do I go around calling everyone and everything I disagree with a scam because I do not understand it no. All I have said to you is use proof to justify you calling them a scammer and I also gave you why I do not outright say they are scammers. They can correct what they screwed up. It is still early. However I do think the time is running out and they sure seem to be walking a tight rope and I am not sure which side they will fall on. If they are trying to actually make this coin as they say I want them to succeed but they need to fix things if they want too. Let’s see what else do you want to know about me. I am not hiding behind made up new accounts. I speak what I believe and if I say something wrong opps but I said it so I will live up to it. Half of these posts of from new accounts so it is probably nothing more than a few people posting from different accounts and want to make it look like bigger support for their side. If you want my shoe size and other personal info you have to PM me for that I don’t just give that out.    

Think you would spend less time trying to save paycoin more time flying planes yes I can research too And that's alot of failed crypto you should post on here what you are investing in so we all know where not to go.  http://www.pepsico.com/Brands

Sure I will let you know all the coins and when I got in and out. See I have a past and I am not ashamed of it. I do not create a fake account so you can act all high and mighty.

[tom14cat14]

Ok, I know I'm part of the group that Mr. GAW says don't understand context or can't read or whatever... but his white paper, archive link below, specifically said prime controllers stake @ 5%.  Nowhere does the white paper show 10, 20, 100, or 350 % stake rates... ANYWHERE in that white paper...

http://web.archive.org/web/20150105011047/https://c91475e716c8925e05c6-d2659d433205cf4410415f8dd63807af.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/paycoinwhitepaper.pdf

Dude you don't have to worry about any of this Tomcat talked to Carlos Josh's brother he said its not a scam go ahead send him your credit card info and they will sell you paycoins today only $25 and Tomcat will throw in a jody and paul special trail cam for $150 billed weekly will 200% interest rate

Wow good job. I am amazed. How about we meet up for a beer some time. I am in MN oh wait you already knew that. I have said I am no longer sure about GAW. At the time they seemed legit but I am not sure. How about you post some info about you. Oh wait you are to scared. At least I am Man enough not to owrry about a ouke like you. Let me know if you want more info about me. I have never worked for GAW but I have supported them and might be screwed by them.

BTW does it make you feel big that you can click my signature and then look at the about us page on my parents website? I actually dare you to go meet my Dad. I will send you his address if you can’t find it because it would be a joy.