GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[coinmaster222]

PSA from our friends over at GH: if you purchased GAW products using a credit card or a PayPal payment you may be eligible for a charge back. More info here:

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/gaw-legal-credit-and-consumer-protection-rights-thread/2878

maybe in the US. but Banks here go with the 45 day chargeback timeframe, guaranteed.

Not if there is an ongoing investigation then there is no time limit.Uk credit cards is 180 days well my Barclaycard is.

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[Buckeye2015]

First, prove to me that GAW owns Paycoin. Tell me how much, and where it is stored and why you believe it belongs to them, and then explain  why taking property from a corporation is different than taking it from an individual. Secondly, explain why you think it is ok to take property away from either GAW or Josh Garza. What is the EXACT criteria by which you conclude that it is fair, just and legal, to take property from someone else. You either respect property rights or you don't.

I don't think anyone is proposing taking property away from anyone. What is being proposed is a fork of the coin which is identical other than that certain coins don't exist in the fork; the current coin (XPY) continues to exist, and a new coin (XPY2) is created which is functionally identical, only without the GAW coins. Is that theft? I don't see how.

As an existing holder of N XPY, I would also have N XPY2 (unless presumably I was GAW). I could choose to trade my XPY2 for "real" XPY, or vice versa, depending on which of the two I wanted to hold. They would both be listed on exchanges, and their prices would move independently of each other.

If there's general agreement that the fork is a good idea people would sell their XPY, pushing the price towards 0, while buying more XPY2, increasing the price. GAW still have their millions of XPY, nothing has been stolen, but the free market has set a more appropriate price for their out-of-thin-air gains and decided that they value a coin without the pre-mine (or whatever it is - I've not been paying attention) more highly.

This.

XPY2 would cut at least 50% of the coin and all hyperinflation.

EDIT: Cut all prime controllers and their coins + any remaining premine which is not in the hands of customers.

• If an address held by dooglus is identified as a GAW address, then that would be okay because it's for the greater good? Even if that address is valued at $2k at the time it's excised from the blockchain?
  
• What if Rashabh is owner of 3 of the prime controllers? He's put up a lot of money for them and is as much a victim of GAW as anyone else. Should his prime controllers and their existing coins be wiped out?

And, everyone is okay with setting this precedent... so, maybe in the future a coin could decide to just wipe out all addresses associated with Southern Hemisphere IP addresses... or maybe dump all addresses associated with EU wallets... hey, they could set up a kiddy-porn honeypot and drop all those wallets, that would certainly be for the greater good...

Everyone is comfortable with a crypto-currency suddenly becoming judge and jury in accordance with the current holders' ideals? That is essentially what you will be doing when you take a $1000 or $10,000 or $1mm worth of addresses and cut them out.

I'm not sure how you clean up XPY, but if the prime controllers survive till June, then who knows who will own (technically rent) them... as it stands now, the PC tenants seem to hold a lot of power over the future of the coin. What if they decide they want to go for the big-bang and focus on setting up silk-road5 or they decide to cut out all wallets holding less than 100k coins to increase scarcity because they're just muggles anyway, right?

[jmordica]

First, prove to me that GAW owns Paycoin. Tell me how much, and where it is stored and why you believe it belongs to them, and then explain  why taking property from a corporation is different than taking it from an individual. Secondly, explain why you think it is ok to take property away from either GAW or Josh Garza. What is the EXACT criteria by which you conclude that it is fair, just and legal, to take property from someone else. You either respect property rights or you don't.

I don't think anyone is proposing taking property away from anyone. What is being proposed is a fork of the coin which is identical other than that certain coins don't exist in the fork; the current coin (XPY) continues to exist, and a new coin (XPY2) is created which is functionally identical, only without the GAW coins. Is that theft? I don't see how.

As an existing holder of N XPY, I would also have N XPY2 (unless presumably I was GAW). I could choose to trade my XPY2 for "real" XPY, or vice versa, depending on which of the two I wanted to hold. They would both be listed on exchanges, and their prices would move independently of each other.

If there's general agreement that the fork is a good idea people would sell their XPY, pushing the price towards 0, while buying more XPY2, increasing the price. GAW still have their millions of XPY, nothing has been stolen, but the free market has set a more appropriate price for their out-of-thin-air gains and decided that they value a coin without the pre-mine (or whatever it is - I've not been paying attention) more highly.

This.

XPY2 would cut at least 50% of the coin and all hyperinflation.

EDIT: Cut all prime controllers and their coins + any remaining premine which is not in the hands of customers.

I am inclined to agree that with some modifications to this approach, XPY has a greater chance of survival upon successful implementation.

[Garzad]

It's already running in GAWsome Hotel California^TM mode... people can't move or trade funds for a day or so.
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LULZ

Sorry, still 3 days behind, but catching up....

...Have we covered all the Deadly Sins yet??              

[I_IZ_CEO]

For me on a personal level, seeing all of this proof that the assholes we all thought were paid shills sucking Homero's balls for a nickel were exactly that is extremely satisfying.

^^ THIS <3

Can someone point me to that block of SEO words that suchmoon mentioned?  I'm tired and hoping someone remembers approx where it was?

This?

GAWCEO, MrCEO, josg21, Homero Garza, Josh Garza, Homero Josh Garza, Homero Joshua Garza, H. Josh Garza, H. Joshua Garza, GAW Miners LLC, Business Technology for Cryptocurrency LLC, B.T.C. LLC, GAW HSI, GAW High Speed Internet, Geniuses at Work, GAW, ZenMiner, ZenCloud, Paycoin, Paybase, PayFlash, Hashlet, Hashstaker, Hashtalk, Mineral, Coinstand.

http://www.neverobsolete.com/important/homero-joshua-garza-aka-mr-scam-muggle/

How does 1 wear so many hats or should I say vests?

Is BTClend beloning to Garza or is it a private owned LLC

It is owned by Cmilian (Carmelo Milian- in Spain I think) , but he was backed by Garza from it's inception. Now BTClend magically has access to a couple of Prime Controllers to prop up the recently acquired XPYstaker business (Who paid??), which appears to be a Ponzi scam with a twist. Without Gara BTClend would not exist, and anybody who has been following this dirtbag knows that he never does anything unless he gets a piece of it.

Carmelo is a photographer from Florida

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Carmelo-Milian-Photography/254720801215253

https://www.linkedin.com/in/cmilian

 I hope a mod didn't sell out to this scumbag and I think Theymos needs to be aware of this.

Asked in Donators section, will update if a response is given.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1033395.0

* TheMage being tired as hell. Reading comprehension FTW.

Get some sleep TheMage.

Thank you very much for asking Theymos this!


TheMage: I have a question, what if JonnyQ wanted to buy Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC? :p
Sorry but I have to agree with Paul on this one. It started as a scam and will die a scam, let the bag-holders move on as I did with some of the scam, pump and dump coins I mined and or purchased. It was a lesson I needed to learn.

[miaviator]

First, prove to me that GAW owns Paycoin. Tell me how much, and where it is stored and why you believe it belongs to them, and then explain  why taking property from a corporation is different than taking it from an individual. Secondly, explain why you think it is ok to take property away from either GAW or Josh Garza. What is the EXACT criteria by which you conclude that it is fair, just and legal, to take property from someone else. You either respect property rights or you don't.

I don't think anyone is proposing taking property away from anyone. What is being proposed is a fork of the coin which is identical other than that certain coins don't exist in the fork; the current coin (XPY) continues to exist, and a new coin (XPY2) is created which is functionally identical, only without the GAW coins. Is that theft? I don't see how.

As an existing holder of N XPY, I would also have N XPY2 (unless presumably I was GAW). I could choose to trade my XPY2 for "real" XPY, or vice versa, depending on which of the two I wanted to hold. They would both be listed on exchanges, and their prices would move independently of each other.

If there's general agreement that the fork is a good idea people would sell their XPY, pushing the price towards 0, while buying more XPY2, increasing the price. GAW still have their millions of XPY, nothing has been stolen, but the free market has set a more appropriate price for their out-of-thin-air gains and decided that they value a coin without the pre-mine (or whatever it is - I've not been paying attention) more highly.

This.

XPY2 would cut at least 50% of the coin and all hyperinflation.

EDIT: Cut all prime controllers and their coins + any remaining premine which is not in the hands of customers.

• If an address held by dooglus is identified as a GAW address, then that would be okay because it's for the greater good? Even if that address is valued at $2k at the time it's excised from the blockchain?
  
• What if Rashabh is owner of 3 of the prime controllers? He's put up a lot of money for them and is as much a victim of GAW as anyone else. Should his prime controllers and their existing coins be wiped out?

And, everyone is okay with setting this precedent... so, maybe in the future a coin could decide to just wipe out all addresses associated with Southern Hemisphere IP addresses... or maybe dump all addresses associated with EU wallets... hey, they could set up a kiddy-porn honeypot and drop all those wallets, that would certainly be for the greater good...

Everyone is comfortable with a crypto-currency suddenly becoming judge and jury in accordance with the current holders' ideals? That is essentially what you will be doing when you take a $1000 or $10,000 or $1mm worth of addresses and cut them out.

I'm not sure how you clean up XPY, but if the prime controllers survive till June, then who knows who will own (technically rent) them... as it stands now, the PC tenants seem to hold a lot of power over the future of the coin. What if they decide they want to go for the big-bang and focus on setting up silk-road5 or they decide to cut out all wallets holding less than 100k coins to increase scarcity because they're just muggles anyway, right?

 

First, prove to me that GAW owns Paycoin. Tell me how much, and where it is stored and why you believe it belongs to them, and then explain  why taking property from a corporation is different than taking it from an individual. Secondly, explain why you think it is ok to take property away from either GAW or Josh Garza. What is the EXACT criteria by which you conclude that it is fair, just and legal, to take property from someone else. You either respect property rights or you don't.

I don't think anyone is proposing taking property away from anyone. What is being proposed is a fork of the coin which is identical other than that certain coins don't exist in the fork; the current coin (XPY) continues to exist, and a new coin (XPY2) is created which is functionally identical, only without the GAW coins. Is that theft? I don't see how.

As an existing holder of N XPY, I would also have N XPY2 (unless presumably I was GAW). I could choose to trade my XPY2 for "real" XPY, or vice versa, depending on which of the two I wanted to hold. They would both be listed on exchanges, and their prices would move independently of each other.

If there's general agreement that the fork is a good idea people would sell their XPY, pushing the price towards 0, while buying more XPY2, increasing the price. GAW still have their millions of XPY, nothing has been stolen, but the free market has set a more appropriate price for their out-of-thin-air gains and decided that they value a coin without the pre-mine (or whatever it is - I've not been paying attention) more highly.

I made it bold for you.

[miaviator]

The real Jmordica Ladies and Gentleman!

[I_IZ_CEO]

First, prove to me that GAW owns Paycoin. Tell me how much, and where it is stored and why you believe it belongs to them, and then explain  why taking property from a corporation is different than taking it from an individual. Secondly, explain why you think it is ok to take property away from either GAW or Josh Garza. What is the EXACT criteria by which you conclude that it is fair, just and legal, to take property from someone else. You either respect property rights or you don't.

I don't think anyone is proposing taking property away from anyone. What is being proposed is a fork of the coin which is identical other than that certain coins don't exist in the fork; the current coin (XPY) continues to exist, and a new coin (XPY2) is created which is functionally identical, only without the GAW coins. Is that theft? I don't see how.

As an existing holder of N XPY, I would also have N XPY2 (unless presumably I was GAW). I could choose to trade my XPY2 for "real" XPY, or vice versa, depending on which of the two I wanted to hold. They would both be listed on exchanges, and their prices would move independently of each other.

If there's general agreement that the fork is a good idea people would sell their XPY, pushing the price towards 0, while buying more XPY2, increasing the price. GAW still have their millions of XPY, nothing has been stolen, but the free market has set a more appropriate price for their out-of-thin-air gains and decided that they value a coin without the pre-mine (or whatever it is - I've not been paying attention) more highly.

This.

XPY2 would cut at least 50% of the coin and all hyperinflation.

EDIT: Cut all prime controllers and their coins + any remaining premine which is not in the hands of customers.

I am inclined to agree that with some modifications to this approach, XPY has a greater chance of survival upon successful implementation.

LMFAO look what the cat dragged in
Eric I have respect for after reading some of the emails as it seems like he has some conscience.
Jonah was a trusted member of the community way before Gaw.
YOU? I would trust you as much as I would trust Josh, Don't Let The Door Hit You On The Way Out!
Hope you get the jail time you deserve.

[jmordica]

First, prove to me that GAW owns Paycoin. Tell me how much, and where it is stored and why you believe it belongs to them, and then explain  why taking property from a corporation is different than taking it from an individual. Secondly, explain why you think it is ok to take property away from either GAW or Josh Garza. What is the EXACT criteria by which you conclude that it is fair, just and legal, to take property from someone else. You either respect property rights or you don't.

I don't think anyone is proposing taking property away from anyone. What is being proposed is a fork of the coin which is identical other than that certain coins don't exist in the fork; the current coin (XPY) continues to exist, and a new coin (XPY2) is created which is functionally identical, only without the GAW coins. Is that theft? I don't see how.

As an existing holder of N XPY, I would also have N XPY2 (unless presumably I was GAW). I could choose to trade my XPY2 for "real" XPY, or vice versa, depending on which of the two I wanted to hold. They would both be listed on exchanges, and their prices would move independently of each other.

If there's general agreement that the fork is a good idea people would sell their XPY, pushing the price towards 0, while buying more XPY2, increasing the price. GAW still have their millions of XPY, nothing has been stolen, but the free market has set a more appropriate price for their out-of-thin-air gains and decided that they value a coin without the pre-mine (or whatever it is - I've not been paying attention) more highly.

This.

XPY2 would cut at least 50% of the coin and all hyperinflation.

EDIT: Cut all prime controllers and their coins + any remaining premine which is not in the hands of customers.

I am inclined to agree that with some modifications to this approach, XPY has a greater chance of survival upon successful implementation.

LMFAO look what the cat dragged in
Eric I have respect for after reading some of the emails as it seems like he has some conscience.
Jonah was a trusted member of the community way before Gaw.
YOU? I would trust you as much as I would trust Josh, Don't Let The Door Hit You On The Way Out!
Hope you get the jail time you deserve.

I pushed a lot of buttons and levers. I also take responsibility for my actions. I will continue truthfully answering questions asked by 3 letter agencies even if it means an undesirable outcome for myself. I enjoy working in this industry and I stay closely in touch with Eric and Jonah. Like Eric, when I became very uncomfortable working in the environment, I stepped down from my role.

I can take a forum beating and completely understand the justification to do so.

I may have not stepped down from my role quick enough in order to properly display my character and integrity as a business leader, and that is something I regret. Hopefully time will heal and mend some of the professional and personal relationships I have built over the last few years. I'm also willing to help out where I can and be more available to do so.

Thanks.

[holdembot]

First, prove to me that GAW owns Paycoin. Tell me how much, and where it is stored and why you believe it belongs to them, and then explain  why taking property from a corporation is different than taking it from an individual. Secondly, explain why you think it is ok to take property away from either GAW or Josh Garza. What is the EXACT criteria by which you conclude that it is fair, just and legal, to take property from someone else. You either respect property rights or you don't.

I don't think anyone is proposing taking property away from anyone. What is being proposed is a fork of the coin which is identical other than that certain coins don't exist in the fork; the current coin (XPY) continues to exist, and a new coin (XPY2) is created which is functionally identical, only without the GAW coins. Is that theft? I don't see how.

As an existing holder of N XPY, I would also have N XPY2 (unless presumably I was GAW). I could choose to trade my XPY2 for "real" XPY, or vice versa, depending on which of the two I wanted to hold. They would both be listed on exchanges, and their prices would move independently of each other.

If there's general agreement that the fork is a good idea people would sell their XPY, pushing the price towards 0, while buying more XPY2, increasing the price. GAW still have their millions of XPY, nothing has been stolen, but the free market has set a more appropriate price for their out-of-thin-air gains and decided that they value a coin without the pre-mine (or whatever it is - I've not been paying attention) more highly.

This.

XPY2 would cut at least 50% of the coin and all hyperinflation.

EDIT: Cut all prime controllers and their coins + any remaining premine which is not in the hands of customers.

I am inclined to agree that with some modifications to this approach, XPY has a greater chance of survival upon successful implementation.

LMFAO look what the cat dragged in
Eric I have respect for after reading some of the emails as it seems like he has some conscience.
Jonah was a trusted member of the community way before Gaw.
YOU? I would trust you as much as I would trust Josh, Don't Let The Door Hit You On The Way Out!
Hope you get the jail time you deserve.

I pushed a lot of buttons and levers. I also take responsibility for my actions. I will continue truthfully answering questions asked by 3 letter agencies even if it means an undesirable outcome for myself. I enjoy working in this industry and I stay closely in touch with Eric and Jonah. Like Eric, when I became very uncomfortable working in the environment, I stepped down from my role.

I can take a forum beating and completely understand the justification to do so.

I may have not stepped down from my role quick enough in order to properly display my character and integrity as a business leader, and that is something I regret. Hopefully time will heal and mend some of the professional and personal relationships I have built over the last few years. I'm also willing to help out where I can and be more available to do so.

Thanks.

Money always seem to make people regret things.

A couple of you need to end up somewhere in jail to educate other prisoners that scamming people do not pay. That is likely the best outcome which would benefit the rest of society.

Would you have been this "truthfull" if all those leaked emails didn't surface or would you have been a completely innocent person ?

ps. From day one you could see that Homero is a completely illiterate brainfart. What, other than money, made you lay in his bed ?

[I_IZ_CEO]

First, prove to me that GAW owns Paycoin. Tell me how much, and where it is stored and why you believe it belongs to them, and then explain  why taking property from a corporation is different than taking it from an individual. Secondly, explain why you think it is ok to take property away from either GAW or Josh Garza. What is the EXACT criteria by which you conclude that it is fair, just and legal, to take property from someone else. You either respect property rights or you don't.

I don't think anyone is proposing taking property away from anyone. What is being proposed is a fork of the coin which is identical other than that certain coins don't exist in the fork; the current coin (XPY) continues to exist, and a new coin (XPY2) is created which is functionally identical, only without the GAW coins. Is that theft? I don't see how.

As an existing holder of N XPY, I would also have N XPY2 (unless presumably I was GAW). I could choose to trade my XPY2 for "real" XPY, or vice versa, depending on which of the two I wanted to hold. They would both be listed on exchanges, and their prices would move independently of each other.

If there's general agreement that the fork is a good idea people would sell their XPY, pushing the price towards 0, while buying more XPY2, increasing the price. GAW still have their millions of XPY, nothing has been stolen, but the free market has set a more appropriate price for their out-of-thin-air gains and decided that they value a coin without the pre-mine (or whatever it is - I've not been paying attention) more highly.

This.

XPY2 would cut at least 50% of the coin and all hyperinflation.

EDIT: Cut all prime controllers and their coins + any remaining premine which is not in the hands of customers.

I am inclined to agree that with some modifications to this approach, XPY has a greater chance of survival upon successful implementation.

LMFAO look what the cat dragged in
Eric I have respect for after reading some of the emails as it seems like he has some conscience.
Jonah was a trusted member of the community way before Gaw.
YOU? I would trust you as much as I would trust Josh, Don't Let The Door Hit You On The Way Out!
Hope you get the jail time you deserve.

I pushed a lot of buttons and levers. I also take responsibility for my actions. I will continue truthfully answering questions asked by 3 letter agencies even if it means an undesirable outcome for myself. I enjoy working in this industry and I stay closely in touch with Eric and Jonah. Like Eric, when I became very uncomfortable working in the environment, I stepped down from my role.

I can take a forum beating and completely understand the justification to do so.

I may have not stepped down from my role quick enough in order to properly display my character and integrity as a business leader, and that is something I regret. Hopefully time will heal and mend some of the professional and personal relationships I have built over the last few years. I'm also willing to help out where I can and be more available to do so.

Thanks.

I do respect your honesty with that post.
Thanks for the reply and grats on the new kid you had recently.


Edit:

Money always seem to make people regret things.

A couple of you need to end up somewhere in jail to educate other prisoners that scamming people do not pay. That is likely the best outcome which would benefit the rest of society.

Would you have been this "truthfull" if all those leaked emails didn't surface or would you have been a completely innocent person ?

ps. From day one you could see that Homero is a completely illiterate brainfart. What, other than money, made you lay in his bed ?

Great question!

[suchmoon]

And, everyone is okay with setting this precedent... so, maybe in the future a coin could decide to just wipe out all addresses associated with Southern Hemisphere IP addresses... or maybe dump all addresses associated with EU wallets... hey, they could set up a kiddy-porn honeypot and drop all those wallets, that would certainly be for the greater good...

That's not how it works though is it?

I can take Bitcoin source and create a fork to wipe out Nakamoto's coins. Trouble is, nobody would use my fork so my BTCSM would be useless and worthless.

Anyone can take Paycoin source and fork it for any reason. The team/foundation/whatchamacallit just did it. A hostile fork would be more difficult to pull off but not impossible.

In other words there is no justice system here akin to "real life" laws, precedents, etc. Complete anarchy and random chance, embrace it  

[suchmoon]

I can take a forum beating and completely understand the justification to do so.

I can definitely respect that 

[bitpop]

Which mod is in bed with Homero?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1033514.0

[Buckeye2015]

I pushed a lot of buttons and levers. I also take responsibility for my actions. I will continue truthfully answering questions asked by 3 letter agencies even if it means an undesirable outcome for myself. I enjoy working in this industry and I stay closely in touch with Eric and Jonah. Like Eric, when I became very uncomfortable working in the environment, I stepped down from my role.

I can take a forum beating and completely understand the justification to do so.

I may have not stepped down from my role quick enough in order to properly display my character and integrity as a business leader, and that is something I regret. Hopefully time will heal and mend some of the professional and personal relationships I have built over the last few years. I'm also willing to help out where I can and be more available to do so.

Thanks.

A start would be making ALL of the financials on your non-profit FULLY available on a monthly basis. And, I say monthly because part of Josh's recommended expatriation scheme was to use a state-side non-profit to funnel money over seas to him. So, if you release monthly, then they match your annual... that will go a long way in showing that you're not the non-profit fulfilling that role.

[favdesu]

Uhm, looks like the $10 subscription fee for sellers doesn't work that good? Too bad, everyone thought it would work out /s

[maildir]

Actual terms and conditions of purchasing btc.com - kind of interesting as they are quite stringent. Effectively got Homero by the short and curlies, one step out of line and they can seize it back. Probably explains why nothing has happened with it to date. In sum anything you do to sully the name of the domain we can reclaim it. At this late stage the mere mention of his foul name attached to it with some deft lawyering could pull it back. Snookered for 1 million. Another typical Homero Garza cluster fuck. LOL


https://www.scribd.com/doc/262558760/BTC-Agreement-v2

[maildir]

Subject:    virtual v hardware sales last 7 days
Date:    Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:42:13 -0400
From:    Alan Harmon <alan@gawminers.com>
To:    Josh Garza <josh@gaw.com>


total orders 11429
virtual orders- 11080
physical orders - 349

physical order breakdown
Fury - 286
Gridseed 5 blade miner - 12
3' Ethernet cable - 10
War machine - 9
Thunder - 9
Falcon - 8
Barrel tip cable - 6
6W 12V 5A psu - 5
RM 850 psu - 1
Black Widow - 1
Gridseed power splitter - 1
R=box Rocket - 1

physical sales = 3.05% of total sales

I know you can see this. I also know you don't have time to do the data analysis.

(That's what I do)

G'nite -
Alan



Alan Harmon
Global Buyer
GAW Miners
34 E. Dudley Town Rd.
Bloomfield, CT 06002
Office +1-413-273-8534
Cell +1-210-784-6577
alan@gawminers.com

[maildir]

 

In some cases, their hosted product was virtual in the first place and we never had the inventory.

Subject:    policy change
Date:    Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:14:19 -0400
From:    Alan Harmon <alan@gawminers.com>
To:    Josh Garza <josh@gaw.com>



Josh -
I think we should change our policy on what we offer un-hosting requests to a store credit if requested by the customer.

Since I know you don't like long emails, following in the boring stuff to justify this position. Read only if necessary or if you want.

A majority of the customers (I'm told) are requesting this instead of having their miner shipped. I suspect they are wanting to buy haslets, which are more profitable to our company. By doing this, it wouldn't put us in the awkward position of sitting on orders while we in some cases look for product to ship.

In some cases, their hosted product was virtual in the first place and we never had the inventory. This would also save us the expense of having to ship the product which can be expensive for international orders.

An additional benefit is the PR it would generate. It's a win for the customer.

Thanks,
Alan Harmon
Trouble Shooter

GAW Miners
34 E. Dudley Town Rd.
Bloomfield, CT 06002
Office +1-413-273-8534
Cell +1-210-784-6577
alan@gawminers.com


“The information contained in this email message

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:

    Great idea!

    If they convert to Hashlets, they will get the credit of their purchase price, which will be FAR more then they will get reselling now.

    I think thats a perfect solution

[maildir]

Pretty much all Homero does as "CEO" "Chairman" "Genius" is sit around fuming at people pointing out his scam, then like the childish pig that he is sic's his lawyers on them to keep it quiet.l 90% of his emails consist of this. Not one single innovative thought, original idea, effort to build a business, just scam, weasel, dodging, slimming, slipping,  just a greasy slippery con man

From: Ashley Martabano
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:18 PM
To: Brian Klein; Josh Garza
Subject: Re: Reddit

 

Josh,

I’m preparing the letter based on your email to Brian, below.  Based on your comments and links, I’m assuming the posts below are what you guys find to be most objectionable, so they will be the basis for the letter.  If there are other things that I have missed, please let me know so we can get you the draft of the letter to Reddit as soon as possible.

    I assume this is the false statement in the last link below?

“Update 3: And a couple more to underscore the point. From their own terms of service: "Hashlets are virtual service units related to mining services, but are not mining hardware." Hashlets are not real, might not have anything to do with hardware! "11. Termination and Modifications. a. Services may be terminated by us, without cause, at any time." And, GAW can simply cancel the service at any time and keep your money!”

 

    2. I don’t see anything hardware related in the “checking gaw against the SEC” thread (except a positive about your hardware in the comments].”

 

    3. For the first link, these appear to be the only real hardware related comments.  Are these the falsehoods you’d like addressed?

“They posted a picture of Josh Garza and another guy standing in a server room of miners, but I noticed they were all the same kind.

The picture could have easily been photoshopped anyway. BUT because there are two algorithms of hashlets, Scrypt AND Sha-256, that means that they are mining a scrypt coin or a SHA-256 coin, and that would mean that the miners are not nessascarily REAL.”

“I was told that this is the correct payout that I should have been receiving all along. It works out to be about right (i.e. if I was mining on my own), but the whole process was confusing and not well explained. Besides, I still don't know what a Hashlet is, and what advantage it has over buying actual hardware. At first, I thought the benefit was the extra payout and not worrying about hardware problems. Now it seems it's simply just cloud mining, which I was never interested in supporting.”

 

Thanks,

Ashley

 

 

From: Brian Klein
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎November‎ ‎13‎, ‎2014 ‎5‎:‎44‎ ‎PM
To: Josh Garza
Cc: Ashley Martabano

 

Thanks. We are on it.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 13, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Josh Garza <josh@btc.com> wrote:

    There are a few now:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/2lzhft/why_are_your_payouts_so_high_gaw/

     

    We have proven we have hardware many times

     

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ld1ko/checking_gaw_against_the_securities_and_exchange/?sort=new

     

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l7myv/can_we_talk_about_gaw/

     

    The main one

     


     

    Josh Garza
    CEO- GAW Corp

     

    On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Brian Klein <bklein@bakermarquart.com> wrote:

    Ok. Cool.

     

    You were also going to send me the post. I don’t know which post it is or where it’s located. I tried searching.

     

    From: Josh Garza [mailto:josh@btc.com]
    Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:33 PM
    To: Brian Klein
    Subject: Re: Reddit

     

    No worries, I can’t find the guy that did it.So just knock on the front door


     

    Josh Garza
    CEO- GAW Corp

     

    On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Brian Klein <bklein@bakermarquart.com> wrote:

    Josh, based on our call earlier this week, I understood that I was waiting to hear back from you on this – I did forgot to ask you about this on the call (apologies).  I’m working late – you can call me anytime tonight.

     

    From: Josh Garza [mailto:josh@btc.com]
    Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:23 PM
    To: Brian Klein
    Subject: Reddit

     

    Reminder

     

    Josh Garza
    CEO- GAW Corp