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May 05, 2015, 05:10:48 AM
Last edit: May 05, 2015, 05:22:46 AM by Xian01
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A few months ago, I might have agreed... but I really think this guy is just galactically stupid on so many levels that he should be studied by the scientific community. I would donate to fMRIs of his head to see exactly what, if anything, is up there.
I'm beginning to agree with you.

I think the man is just so genuinely naive and ignorant, along with suffering from delusions of grandeur and narcissism, that he doesn't understand or believe that he is doing anything criminal or fraudulent.

It's stunning to watch this fraud continue and his psyche unraveling on the forums.
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May 05, 2015, 05:20:53 AM
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Plottwist incoming? Missing the giant shillfest, do the hashtalkers really belief rootdude? If so, we will see a "massive" dumping - as he's advising not to touch paycoin.

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May 05, 2015, 05:24:17 AM
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A few months ago, I might have agreed... but I really think this guy is just galactically stupid on so many levels that he should be studied by the scientific community. I would donate to fMRIs of his head to see exactly what, if anything, is up there.
I'm beginning to agree with you.

I think the man is just so genuinely naive and ignorant, along with a suffering from delusions of grandeur and narcissism, that he doesn't understand or believe that he is doing anything criminal or fraudulent.

It's stunning to watch this fraud continue and his psyche unraveling on the forums.

He is absolutely NOT NAIVE in my point of view... he has a single focused goal to put money in his pocket and he pursues it like a 6yo chasing a toy they want... I totally agree with narcissism and fantastical self-beliefs... TOTALLY agree with that... BUT, he is NOT NAIVE... he's a spoiled brat that so completely exceeds normal human interactions that 'victims' (and that's really only the early people) have no idea of what to make of it... so, some of them assume that his single minded pursuit of his own interest is somehow equated to an intellect that just does not exist within his being.

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May 05, 2015, 05:33:41 AM
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he has a single focused goal to put money in his pocket and he pursues it like a 6yo chasing a toy they want...

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So basically, he is saying, where he came from everyone is honest....except him.    

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So basically, he is saying, where he came from everyone is honest....except him.    

No, I'm thinking it was more of a "Where I come from, no one every holds me accountable for my actions." type of thing. Smiley

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May 05, 2015, 05:58:26 AM
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I'm amazed that the rest of these conversations is irrelevant.



Agreed.
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Agreed: A choice Homero Made
Agreed it is convenient to blame the person at fault vs everyone around you.

Wait it back to beta?  What happened to delta? 

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May 05, 2015, 05:59:45 AM
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lets hope so, right were US authorities can still easily pick him up

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May 05, 2015, 06:05:43 AM
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No, I'm thinking it was more of a "Where I come from, no one every holds me accountable for my actions." type of thing. Smiley

Nail on the head if you ask me.
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My alts include Paul revere, miaviator, jonah dorman, mrceo, seriousinvest, Homero ganza, suchmoon, coinfire, among others. Basically I'm everyone in this thread.

The trolls are merging into super trolls...

And back on topic here...

It boggles my mind how one idea like PayCoin can drive so much drama. PayCon has been around since Jan 2nd (a week less than PayCoin), it has 2 unmoderated OP's and no FUD??? It's part of 2 other forums also with no FUD? Why don't the trolls bother PayCon?
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May 05, 2015, 06:43:32 AM
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@rootdude I am relativly literate on SEC proceedings and from my understanding of thier proceedings and US law it is entirely possible that the sec has opened an inquiry[.] there is not any legal action on file which means Gaw is in compliance with what ever the SEC has asked of them. Furthermore I have searched all the court filings in my state which is the Home state of gawminers and there is no legal action pending in my jurrisdiction. This is just from my understanding I am not a lawyer if one would like to charm in and clarify... please provide your Bar ID and state with your post so I can verify your standing as an attorney

Seems legit.

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@rootdude I am relativly literate on SEC proceedings and from my understanding of thier proceedings and US law it is entirely possible that the sec has opened an inquiry[.] there is not any legal action on file which means Gaw is in compliance with what ever the SEC has asked of them. Furthermore I have searched all the court filings in my state which is the Home state of gawminers and there is no legal action pending in my jurrisdiction. This is just from my understanding I am not a lawyer if one would like to charm in and clarify... please provide your Bar ID and state with your post so I can verify your standing as an attorney

Seems legit.

As a person with over a decade with a federal investigative agency... um... (a) fraud investigations are not quick and (b) they don't publicize it until they take it to the judge for actions that can not be kept quiet (e.g. arresting people tend to have to be public activities). So, INAL and I don't think spydazcomputers (that poster?) is familiar with fraud investigations either. BUT, I can 99.999% guaRONtee that, had Garza been notified that the investigation was concluded, it would be publicized all over every forum that he ever even heard of (in conjunction with his next scam of course).

And, for the record, some of the dumbest people I've ever met were admitted to state Bar Associations. And, apparently more than one of them has heavily invested in this blatant scam... so, not sure how much credibility I'd put in a person who can't recognize a scam of this scale and magnitude.

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May 05, 2015, 06:57:16 AM
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Remember if Josh can prove that the whole thing is his naive/ignorant, its not fraud.
Either way, we are fortunate that the law does not consider stupidity a valid legal defense.
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May 05, 2015, 07:01:14 AM
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Oh yeah forgot to mention

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Remember if Josh can prove that the whole thing is his naive/ignorant, its not fraud.
Either way, we are fortunate that the law does not consider stupidity a valid legal defense.

I'm pretty sure that as CEO running a company that engaged a small herd of attorneys and was actively backed by a Cantor Fitzgerald VP in the form of Stuart Fraser... he could be a drooling idiot and still not manage to win the "naive and didn't know any better" defense once they've gone through his emails and his accounts. He was/is in no way naive... having a single, self-centered purpose to suck money from anyone and everyone that is so strong that it can probably be genuinely classed as pathological... that just makes him an average Wall Street with a far below average respect for that herd of attorneys that he's blown through.

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May 05, 2015, 07:47:47 AM
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My alts include Paul revere, miaviator, jonah dorman, mrceo, seriousinvest, Homero ganza, suchmoon, coinfire, among others. Basically I'm everyone in this thread.

The trolls are merging into super trolls...

And back on topic here...

It boggles my mind how one idea like PayCoin can drive so much drama. PayCon has been around since Jan 2nd (a week less than PayCoin), it has 2 unmoderated OP's and no FUD??? It's part of 2 other forums also with no FUD? Why don't the trolls bother PayCon?

Well paycoin has paid shills maybe paycon needs to hire paid trolls. 

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My alts include Paul revere, miaviator, jonah dorman, mrceo, seriousinvest, Homero ganza, suchmoon, coinfire, among others. Basically I'm everyone in this thread.

The trolls are merging into super trolls...

And back on topic here...

It boggles my mind how one idea like PayCoin can drive so much drama. PayCon has been around since Jan 2nd (a week less than PayCoin), it has 2 unmoderated OP's and no FUD??? It's part of 2 other forums also with no FUD? Why don't the trolls bother PayCon?

Well paycoin has paid shills maybe paycon needs to hire paid trolls. 

I'm available for paid shilling

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My alts include Paul revere, miaviator, jonah dorman, mrceo, seriousinvest, Homero ganza, suchmoon, coinfire, among others. Basically I'm everyone in this thread.

The trolls are merging into super trolls...

And back on topic here...

It boggles my mind how one idea like PayCoin can drive so much drama. PayCon has been around since Jan 2nd (a week less than PayCoin), it has 2 unmoderated OP's and no FUD??? It's part of 2 other forums also with no FUD? Why don't the trolls bother PayCon?

Well paycoin has paid shills maybe paycon needs to hire paid trolls.  

UM.... how would that work?

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My alts include Paul revere, miaviator, jonah dorman, mrceo, seriousinvest, Homero ganza, suchmoon, coinfire, among others. Basically I'm everyone in this thread.

The trolls are merging into super trolls...

And back on topic here...

It boggles my mind how one idea like PayCoin can drive so much drama. PayCon has been around since Jan 2nd (a week less than PayCoin), it has 2 unmoderated OP's and no FUD??? It's part of 2 other forums also with no FUD? Why don't the trolls bother PayCon?

Well paycoin has paid shills maybe paycon needs to hire paid trolls.  

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