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December 19, 2014, 03:35:06 AM
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Predicted next move:

They will let you spend your XPY on the ponzi-mining-crap they sell on the gaw store for $20: cash takers, etc. This will create a complete ecosystem. They will essentially give away their "costless" products for XPY, which will help prop up the price in the exchanges. The whole time they can be liquidating on the exchanges and getting rich that way. Interesting scheme. The true faithful will really feel like they're getting a $20 value as he promised because they just reinvest anyway.

I expect this to happen very soon. That and they'll force you to lock in your coins in those cash takers and cash taker primes to reduce selling pressure. Watch for this in the coming few days.
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December 19, 2014, 03:40:16 AM
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I got all my paycoins out of GAW's control and successfully at Cryptsy. I'll wait for some signs of a pump and a dumping I will go. Now I never have to login to zencloud again. Good fucking riddance.
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December 19, 2014, 03:42:03 AM
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GAW is Arabic for SCAM

We demand proof of data center all we get is photoshop fakes









I demand proof of delivery of Hashlet

I always wondered how does this look photoshopped? I have NO idea what i'm looking at please point out where you see that it is photoshopped? I just want to learn to spot this for myself.

http://fotoforensics.com/

I have no intention of reading all this. Please point to me exactly why this is photoshopped.

Reading what? I posted a link to a website. However, I believe you have no intentions of reading up about it simply because you can not comprehend what you read. You sir are a complete moron.

People keep posting these images and the forensic analysis pictures and expect everybody to see what it wrong with it without even explaining it. And I think the person that posted the forensic analysis picture does not even comprehend what he is posting. I just ask what is wrong with the picture so other people not versed in this sort of analysis can see the is photoshopped or not.

For Goodness Sake! he gave you the website, I did not know what i was looking at so I went to the website and there is a quick tutorial on ELA so go ahead and read you might learn something. I guess Lois Lane is not galactically stupid compared to the fucktards here who are all times heros across space and time
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December 19, 2014, 03:46:25 AM
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You still haven't explained why they need to buy any coin from an exchange to prop up a floor that simply doesn't exist until paybase is opened.  They are just wasting money to buy coins they don't need.

I give up. This has been explained to you numerous times, I'm not quite sure why you're still so adamantly denying simple math. $5 < $20.

I'll try one more time.  What's more important to GAW, satisfying their current hashlet customers by keeping enough reserve to satisfy an expected dump?... or...

1. Trying to artificially pump up non-official exchanges
2. Buying coins they don't need, meaning they further decrease what reserve they have to satisfy the hashlet customers
3. Locking up some reserve in a stock of coins they then have to re-sell over time
4. Satisfy your whims, and look bad in the process?

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December 19, 2014, 03:47:12 AM
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$20 is going to be the floor.
Depends on your perspective. If you're under a bridge, then the floor is above you. Just saying.

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December 19, 2014, 03:47:20 AM
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I have no doubt that you do not understand what I am saying, that is quite obvious. The entire Paycoin mining system is in essence a single pool controlled by GAW, which is the primary coin holder. It does not matter what fancy catch phrases are used to describe it.

I'd have to disagree with you here.  During POW, you can mine your coins into existence using any pool you choose into your own personal wallet.  All of this is outside GAW's control.  During POS, you are free to stake your coins in your own personal wallet, which is also outside GAW's control.



Thanks for pointing that out Sherlock. You think maybe I knew that since I am renting miners? Maybe you should scan back a page and see where this was already discussed.

Also: Better hurry up and rent some more miners, the clock is ticking down!



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LOL to fucking funny but guys what if we keep making fun of homero josh or whatever it is lol and he ends up like tis in 6 months either from severe depression. Maybe on purpose trying not to have such pretty lips before prison or maybe both

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December 19, 2014, 03:50:58 AM
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You still haven't explained why they need to buy any coin from an exchange to prop up a floor that simply doesn't exist until paybase is opened.  They are just wasting money to buy coins they don't need.

I give up. This has been explained to you numerous times, I'm not quite sure why you're still so adamantly denying simple math. $5 < $20.

I think his whole purpose here is just to annoy us actually. Ignore if he bugs you.

I love you too interstellar.

I love how the haters complain about the heavy handedness at hashtalk but can't take a dose of their own medicine here... then complain that they wish they could have a moderated forum.
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December 19, 2014, 03:52:25 AM
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I got all my paycoins out of GAW's control and successfully at Cryptsy. I'll wait for some signs of a pump and a dumping I will go. Now I never have to login to zencloud again. Good fucking riddance.

Glad to hear you got out whole. I have read some really disturbing things on HT, like a guy who invested his kid's college fund in Paycoin and now realizes he has been a fool. If this continues the way logic and greed seem to indicate there are most likely going to be some bad things happening to a whole lot of people. Do you think if Paycoin goes totally into the toilet and some victims of this fraud commit suicide that Josh's smirk will change at all?

All of my posts are simply statements of my own personal opinions based on available information and pondering what might be possible considering human nature, with the goal of finding truth and preventing fraud. Please look at all of the facts and theories and put your thinking cap on to draw your own conclusions. If you feel that I have made a false statement or have been unnecessarily derogatory, I encourage you to please point it out, and if proven correct and/or reasonable I will remedy it. ~ Paul Revere
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December 19, 2014, 03:52:37 AM
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Except... you still haven't explained *why* they need to buy those coins from the exchanges for $5.  Then they will be accused of price manipulation and owning 100% of the coins in existence.  Just more fodder for what you are trying to do here.


So the hypothetical $7.5M out of GAW's pocket is the price they pay *not* to look like they are manipulating the coin?



Are you serious?  You think they have to buy all 500K coins at the end of POW?  Some will go to other exchanges, some will get staked, some will get home wallet staked, some will get cashed.

You don't think GAW has run these models?
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December 19, 2014, 03:57:14 AM
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"We want laws to be built around Paycoin. "

Is that guy for real?
Awesome... i can dump 117 paycoin tonight and be off this nightmare of a merry go round
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December 19, 2014, 04:00:16 AM
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Except... you still haven't explained *why* they need to buy those coins from the exchanges for $5.  Then they will be accused of price manipulation and owning 100% of the coins in existence.  Just more fodder for what you are trying to do here.


So the hypothetical $7.5M out of GAW's pocket is the price they pay *not* to look like they are manipulating the coin?



Are you serious?  You think they have to buy all 500K coins at the end of POW?  Some will go to other exchanges, some will get staked, some will get home wallet staked, some will get cashed.

You don't think GAW has run these models?

No, I really don't they seem like they are totally winging it. Even you have to admit that. Things change on a day by day basis. Their master plan seems to be: survive until tomorrrow.
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December 19, 2014, 04:01:27 AM
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"We want laws to be built around Paycoin. "

Is that guy for real?
Awesome... i can dump 117 paycoin tonight and be off this nightmare of a merry go round


Why not hold it for $20 paycoins? lol
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December 19, 2014, 04:03:59 AM
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You have insulted yourself far more than anyone ever could by simply continuing to open your mouth and spew utterly ridiculous comments and questions. It seems as though you are a glutton for punishment as you never shut up and say the same things over and over ad nauseam. Does someone actually have to slap you upside the head to get you to understand all of this or to at least attempt to get your presimian brain to wrap around such basic math?

Ugh... you don't want to discuss anything do you?

I hope you see the irony in your statements considering you do nothing but state the same things over and over again.  Though, you do usually come up with unique insults, I'll give you that.



puwaha, we've discussed it over and over. It comes down to this. You guys/gals all believe Josh on face value and are unwilling to entertain the possibility of what we are saying to be true. You keep asking for proof that it is a ponzi. We have provided many red flags and issues, crappy videos without sound showing minimal mining when they said they'd do a clear walk through, lack of transparency to show mining etc.

You continue to ask for definite proof that it is a scam yet you can't provide any proof yourself that it isn't a scam. You're unwilling to believe us and we are unwilling to believe you. The people here questioning it work on logic and facts of which none have been provided to us. When we ask questions of supporters such as yourself the answer are always indirect and dance around the issue. I get it... many have invested a alot and don't want to believe that it is a scam.

The end result is we can't help you and you can't help us. Make up your own mind and be done with it. You won't convince us here and we won't convince you likely. I'll be the bigger man and in a years time if its shown as legitimate has all regulatory bodies involved and is transparent i will retract each and every one of my statements and apologize. I would hope that should this be exposed you will also return to this topic stating the same.

Nobody here is commenting against GAW because they are jealous of success etc... many have money and could invest if they so choose. The fact they don't and are criticising GAW to this degree with valid questions should indicates something just isn't right.
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December 19, 2014, 04:04:39 AM
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You still haven't explained why they need to buy any coin from an exchange to prop up a floor that simply doesn't exist until paybase is opened.  They are just wasting money to buy coins they don't need.

I give up. This has been explained to you numerous times, I'm not quite sure why you're still so adamantly denying simple math. $5 < $20.

I think his whole purpose here is just to annoy us actually. Ignore if he bugs you.

I love you too interstellar.

I love how the haters complain about the heavy handedness at hashtalk but can't take a dose of their own medicine here... then complain that they wish they could have a moderated forum.

Lol, I'm only here because I got banned on HT. Asking too many questions. Like on last Sat. for example, there was this thread where everyone was saying the price of XPY was going to go to the moon and I said wait a minute, be cautious, most altcoins go down in value. What are the market forces that are going to raise the price? That got me a few downvotes right there.

I just want to have an open discussion. I haven't ignored you, but the option is there for people if they choose. It's a whole lot nicer than banning though.
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December 19, 2014, 04:05:08 AM
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$20 is going to be the floor.
Depends on your perspective. If you're under a bridge, then the floor is above you. Just saying.


How does that even make sense? Even if you are under a bridge there is still something below you(the ground).
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December 19, 2014, 04:05:56 AM
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wait what paycoin is now on cryptsy no way are you sure its not getting mixed up with some other coin with similar name? I am sure gaw would not let coins out of their control so i dont think its gaws paycoin on cryptsy. I really hope i am right lol

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December 19, 2014, 04:06:41 AM
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I got all my paycoins out of GAW's control and successfully at Cryptsy. I'll wait for some signs of a pump and a dumping I will go. Now I never have to login to zencloud again. Good fucking riddance.

Glad to hear you got out whole. I have read some really disturbing things on HT, like a guy who invested his kid's college fund in Paycoin and now realizes he has been a fool. If this continues the way logic and greed seem to indicate there are most likely going to be some bad things happening to a whole lot of people. Do you think if Paycoin goes totally into the toilet and some victims of this fraud commit suicide that Josh's smirk will change at all?

I agree and have been saying that for the last month. It's a shame that some people are going have to learn a lesson the hard way but everyone has had the same opportunity to investigate GAW on their own. If you threw all your money at GAW you are a complete idiot blinded by greed. How anyone could have so much faith in an uneducated, compulsive and perpetual liar is beyond me. Josh thoroughly disgusts me on every level and I detest even hearing his name. I can only hope that there are very few people that did throw all their money at GAW.
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December 19, 2014, 04:07:22 AM
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$20 is going to be the floor.
Depends on your perspective. If you're under a bridge, then the floor is above you. Just saying.


How does that even make sense? Even if you are under a bridge there is still something below you(the ground).


gaw will happily sell you that bridge too btw along with their cashtakers!
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December 19, 2014, 04:10:36 AM
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Ill say this but no one will listen. Im not a gaw fan. There idea seems solid to me and i invested what i felt comfortable for perceived risk. Ive seen these massive hate campaigns doing to zero legal effect. yet to see a single civil or criminal suit against the man you all claim is the antichrist.

I'm not sure if Mr. Karpeles or the cats at BFL would agree with you there....

TracerX just noticed your picture to the left Smiley Do you get your vests from the same place Josh does? I'm anti GAW i just thought it funny to mention the vest thing as it made me chuckle Smiley
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December 19, 2014, 04:11:13 AM
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I got all my paycoins out of GAW's control and successfully at Cryptsy. I'll wait for some signs of a pump and a dumping I will go. Now I never have to login to zencloud again. Good fucking riddance.

Glad to hear you got out whole. I have read some really disturbing things on HT, like a guy who invested his kid's college fund in Paycoin and now realizes he has been a fool. If this continues the way logic and greed seem to indicate there are most likely going to be some bad things happening to a whole lot of people. Do you think if Paycoin goes totally into the toilet and some victims of this fraud commit suicide that Josh's smirk will change at all?

I agree and have been saying that for the last month. It's a shame that some people are going have to learn a lesson the hard way but everyone has had the same opportunity to investigate GAW on their own. If you threw all your money at GAW you are a complete idiot blinded by greed. How anyone could have so much faith in an uneducated, compulsive and perpetual liar is beyond me. Josh thoroughly disgusts me on every level and I detest even hearing his name. I can only hope that there are very few people that did throw all their money at GAW.

Lots of customers have had a fair change to exit now. Unless you are stuck knee deep in cashtakers you should probably be okay at this point. I don't feel too bad for whatever happens to the lot of them. It's probably time to move on to the more promising projects out there in the crypto world. In some ways, hanging around here is like watching a car accident or even worse, it reminds me a bit of the weeks I spent to the tv watching 911 and the OJ Simpson trial. I know I need to pull away, but the spectacle just keeps me glued to the screen. Oh well, I need a break. I have lots of projects to work on myself.
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