GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[jackbox]

coin-swap is down I can't log in  at  cryptsy. Does any one know any other decent exchange where I can unload my XPI? Thanks

If you have under 100 XPY to trade just go do it at shapeshift.io. You will get it fast. No logging in.

[jfabritz]

You're just being greedy now.  Read back 20 pages and the consensus was that the price was going to $4 once customers got their coins.  You're holding out for $12 now?

If people were willing to pay 0.0375 per XPY on Cryptsy at one point yesterday, why not 0.04? What makes that greedy? Because I want to better myself on people willing to value the coin at that level?

I am looking for opportunity, hence I am an opportunist. I will sit on the coins I have left until it meets my valuation on Cryptsy or Paybase provides the "$20" of value that has been declared all along and I cash out that way. I may be waiting a long time...

My stake in Paycoin is minute compared to the people with a lot of money in it. The profit or loss I make is inconsequential to the profit or loss of somebody like Redacted who admitted on HT to investing $250K in this venture. If I can make more than I put in, GAWsome. If I make back what I put into it, I'm happy. If I lose money, then it was a valuable lesson of what not to do in the future.

[Mi5h0]

coin-swap is down I can't log in  at  cryptsy. Does any one know any other decent exchange where I can unload my XPI? Thanks

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XPY
https://c-cex.com/?p=xpy-btc

[klintay]

Newsflash for the guy who doesn't know what peercoin is: paycoin is a copy/paste of peercoin and there is currently no active program for developing paycoin to do anything useful or important with it. If you want an active POS coin (if you believe in POS at least), there a plenty. As there is nothing of substance backing GAW's work on this coin, it will start to crash like crazy once some start dumping it. I predict this coin is not worth more than 10 cents in two months. Seriously how anyone cannot see the writing on the wall with this one is beyond me.

wrong its a peercoin clone with masternodes like drk  to the moon baby~~

[raskul]

Newsflash for the guy who doesn't know what peercoin is: paycoin is a copy/paste of peercoin and there is currently no active program for developing paycoin to do anything useful or important with it. If you want an active POS coin (if you believe in POS at least), there a plenty. As there is nothing of substance backing GAW's work on this coin, it will start to crash like crazy once some start dumping it. I predict this coin is not worth more than 10 cents in two months. Seriously how anyone cannot see the writing on the wall with this one is beyond me.

wrong its a peercoin clone with masternodes like drk  to the moon baby~~

those masternodes are an abomination to crypto. they were when drk launched them and they remain to be so now.

[molan]

Funny how this thread is so quick to "attack" people......show's the level of maturity.

Man, just look at you, you came here and started to call people "12 years old" without even knowing them, be honest with yourself.

[cryptodaknight]

Please let me sell my hashstakers please I want to get right out of this shit hole.  

Bit pointless whining about that here isn't it?

Also, Homero lied again - he said he would take the Cash takers off zencloud so you cant buy them anymore, they are still there nearly a day later.

OMG. 24 hour delay. DEFINITELY A SCAM!!!!

Have some patience lad.

I sense the aggrieved circle jerk is running out of steam, you're definitely running out of GAW 'fails' to gush over. Maybe you guys could start a new thread for your ASIC discussion and lock this thread?

You are not a very good shrill are you, if you have been paying attention to the thread and not just your own posts you will see Homero responds to us indirectly and directly.

If he sees that not only do we want to get out with our XPY, which we have

Some of us also need to completely get out and rid us of this cancer that is cashtakers.  

Thats what it will take me to get out of this thread.  Nothing more or less.  

No its not a delay he said he will remove them from sale when he converts the remaining solos/primes to takers of cash.  No where did he say oh btw we will remove sale in x hours.  Maybe its me but I value when a person says they are going to do something and do it...and think when the opposite happens its hypocritical and right for the shit people cop for it.  Not sure where your morals are..blinded by greed perhaps ?

I'm right there with you, Josh, I know your listening as you personally messaged me before. I can even post that for people to see if I need to. But just let me out of this nightmare, let me sell my cashtakers and I'll be out of your way. That's what will get me to shut up about all this. At that point if people cannot see this bullshit for what it is, fine, but you holding us hostage, and basically gave us no real good choice to change over to hashstakers since zen miners were unprofitable.

I do have to admit, the claims that come out of gawminer have become so big with nothing behind them, it's amazing people cannot see through this. Once I saw things released it was game over for me, done with this bs.

[welchy8764]

Can anyone confirm, is Paycoin still in PoW or not?

If still PoW (with zero block reward), then where does the magic coins come from? https://twitter.com/CryptoDabbler/status/546657012474712064

Paycoin went POS last night

Never go full POS..lol

[coinits]

Can anyone confirm, is Paycoin still in PoW or not?

If still PoW (with zero block reward), then where does the magic coins come from? https://twitter.com/CryptoDabbler/status/546657012474712064

Paycoin went POS last night

Never go full POS..lol

[TracerX]

My stake in Paycoin is minute compared to the people with a lot of money in it. The profit or loss I make is inconsequential to the profit or loss of somebody like Redacted who admitted on HT to investing $250K in this venture. If I can make more than I put in, GAWsome. If I make back what I put into it, I'm happy. If I lose money, then it was a valuable lesson of what not to do in the future.

As much as most of us (including myself) like to giggle at the fiasco, your attitude is appropriate for any venture in cryptocurrency--even BTC!  I hope it works out for you in the long term.

[93739]

If anybody has missed the fun, PayCoin has now moved to 100% PoS mode.. and has "stalled" again. Last block was 1.5 hours ago, the children are getting uppity, and the github repo has been taken down again. Even big talkers in the community are starting to get fed up with the situation.

https://i.imgur.com/pZIEvmF.jpg

Time for hard fork number three right? 

https://hashtalk.org/topic/24985/pow-to-pos-change-over-should-be-in-progress/

[raskul]

meanwhile: i resurrected SOV and it's staking away nicely. Still mineable, but no pools open.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=471272.0
 

[keshuker]

If anybody has missed the fun, PayCoin has now moved to 100% PoS mode.. and has "stalled" again. Last block was 1.5 hours ago, the children are getting uppity, and the github repo has been taken down again. Even big talkers in the community are starting to get fed up with the situation.



Time for hard fork number three right? 

https://hashtalk.org/topic/24985/pow-to-pos-change-over-should-be-in-progress/

Maybe the hyperflex is so advanced that even the computers don't understand it

[jfabritz]

My stake in Paycoin is minute compared to the people with a lot of money in it. The profit or loss I make is inconsequential to the profit or loss of somebody like Redacted who admitted on HT to investing $250K in this venture. If I can make more than I put in, GAWsome. If I make back what I put into it, I'm happy. If I lose money, then it was a valuable lesson of what not to do in the future.

As much as most of us (including myself) like to giggle at the fiasco, your attitude is appropriate for any venture in cryptocurrency--even BTC!  I hope it works out for you in the long term.

It's the same philosophy I have when I walk into a casino. If after four hours I walk out of a casino with the money I walked in with, I got a big old smile on my face. 

[93739]

Maybe the hyperflex is so advanced that even the computers don't understand it

Well, there's no hybrid flex at all. No block chain compression.

"Prime nodes" are just the 95% premine divided up and hardcoded into the client. Rather than Proof Of Stake, it's just centralized control by GAW. They can double spend, reverse transactions, censor anything they want to. It's being poised as peercoin + darkcoin, but at least darkcoins shitty system isn't totally owned by one company. I don't really believe that the investors exist in the first place, it's too convenient that they've invested $100,000,000 USD in GAW and nobody even knows a single one of their names.

[klintay]

Maybe the hyperflex is so advanced that even the computers don't understand it

Well, there's no hybrid flex at all. No block chain compression.

"Prime nodes" are just the 95% premine divided up and hardcoded into the client. Rather than Proof Of Stake, it's just centralized control by GAW. They can double spend, reverse transactions, censor anything they want to. It's being poised as peercoin + darkcoin, but at least darkcoins shitty system isn't totally owned by one company. I don't really believe that the investors exist in the first place, it's too convenient that they've invested $100,000,000 USD in GAW and nobody even knows a single one of their names.

true but they have basically came out and said they are going to pump this $20 usd, whether their volume can be sustained after that is another question...

[suchmoon]

If anybody has missed the fun, PayCoin has now moved to 100% PoS mode.. and has "stalled" again. Last block was 1.5 hours ago, the children are getting uppity, and the github repo has been taken down again. Even big talkers in the community are starting to get fed up with the situation.

https://i.imgur.com/pZIEvmF.jpg

Time for hard fork number three right? 

https://hashtalk.org/topic/24985/pow-to-pos-change-over-should-be-in-progress/

Thank you, finally I get a chance to do a "told you so"  

How is that "smooth transition"

What about tomorrow, another hard fork to commemorate the real POS?

https://hashtalk.org/topic/24715
https://archive.today/lLmFY

http://i.snag.gy/PtbiB.jpg

I'm wondering how long exchanges and other "partners" are willing to put up with these ninja forks. This is likely far from the last one. And the typically chatty "staff" can't even post something like "we're working on it".

[keshuker]

Maybe the hyperflex is so advanced that even the computers don't understand it

Well, there's no hybrid flex at all. No block chain compression.

"Prime nodes" are just the 95% premine divided up and hardcoded into the client. Rather than Proof Of Stake, it's just centralized control by GAW. They can double spend, reverse transactions, censor anything they want to. It's being poised as peercoin + darkcoin, but at least darkcoins shitty system isn't totally owned by one company. I don't really believe that the investors exist in the first place, it's too convenient that they've invested $100,000,000 USD in GAW and nobody even knows a single one of their names.

So are you saying that the premine is used for giving the prime nodes/hashstakers the promised extra stake?

Can you prove it? If this is true then it all comes crumbling down

Edit:
Should be much easier now to keep the buywall with a dead blockchain

[suchmoon]

Here is something that's been bothering me since the 12 million premine was announced, and I don't seem to find a definitive answer to this:

7.2 million coins (60% of the premine) are distributed to Hashpoint customers. That leaves 4.8 million to "investors". But the Prime controllers need to be funded with at least 50% of all coins in existence, i.e. ~6.17 million. 6.17 - 4.8 = 1.37 million - where are those remaining coins coming from? Is GAW borrowing from customers to fund their Prime Controllers? How were they able to do that even before the customers started putting coins into HashStakers? The only feasible alternative is that GAW bought 1.37 million coins on an exchange, but I don't see anywhere near that kind of volume having been transacted before noon yesterday (when the hardcoded Prime wallets were deployed). And it looks like Prime wallets were funded directly from premine anyway, not from an exchange. Any ideas?

[klintay]

Here is something that's been bothering me since the 12 million premine was announced, and I don't seem to find a definitive answer to this:

7.2 million coins (60% of the premine) are distributed to Hashpoint customers. That leaves 4.8 million to "investors". But the Prime controllers need to be funded with at least 50% of all coins in existence, i.e. ~6.17 million. 6.17 - 4.8 = 1.37 million - where are those remaining coins coming from? Is GAW borrowing from customers to fund their Prime Controllers? How were they able to do that even before the customers started putting coins into HashStakers? The only feasible alternative is that GAW bought 1.37 million coins on an exchange, but I don't see anywhere near that kind of volume having been transacted before noon yesterday (when the hardcoded Prime wallets were deployed). And it looks like Prime wallets were funded directly from premine anyway, not from an exchange. Any ideas?

Hash point customers will fund the prime controllers hence keeping a support for price