GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[favelle75]

Please let me sell my hashstakers please I want to get right out of this shit hole.  

Bit pointless whining about that here isn't it?

Also, Homero lied again - he said he would take the Cash takers off zencloud so you cant buy them anymore, they are still there nearly a day later.

OMG. 24 hour delay. DEFINITELY A SCAM!!!!

Have some patience lad.

I sense the aggrieved circle jerk is running out of steam, you're definitely running out of GAW 'fails' to gush over. Maybe you guys could start a new thread for your ASIC discussion and lock this thread?

You are not a very good shrill are you, if you have been paying attention to the thread and not just your own posts you will see Homero responds to us indirectly and directly.

If he sees that not only do we want to get out with our XPY, which we have

Some of us also need to completely get out and rid us of this cancer that is cashtakers.  

Thats what it will take me to get out of this thread.  Nothing more or less.  

No its not a delay he said he will remove them from sale when he converts the remaining solos/primes to takers of cash.  No where did he say oh btw we will remove sale in x hours.  Maybe its me but I value when a person says they are going to do something and do it...and think when the opposite happens its hypocritical and right for the shit people cop for it.  Not sure where your morals are..blinded by greed perhaps ?

I'm right there with you, Josh, I know your listening as you personally messaged me before. I can even post that for people to see if I need to. But just let me out of this nightmare, let me sell my cashtakers and I'll be out of your way. That's what will get me to shut up about all this. At that point if people cannot see this bullshit for what it is, fine, but you holding us hostage, and basically gave us no real good choice to change over to hashstakers since zen miners were unprofitable.

I do have to admit, the claims that come out of gawminer have become so big with nothing behind them, it's amazing people cannot see through this. Once I saw things released it was game over for me, done with this bs.

Just sell your account. It's not that hard. Then everyone can stop listening to you whining 24/7.

[doogsan]

Here is something that's been bothering me since the 12 million premine was announced, and I don't seem to find a definitive answer to this:

7.2 million coins (60% of the premine) are distributed to Hashpoint customers. That leaves 4.8 million to "investors". But the Prime controllers need to be funded with at least 50% of all coins in existence, i.e. ~6.17 million. 6.17 - 4.8 = 1.37 million - where are those remaining coins coming from? Is GAW borrowing from customers to fund their Prime Controllers? How were they able to do that even before the customers started putting coins into HashStakers? The only feasible alternative is that GAW bought 1.37 million coins on an exchange, but I don't see anywhere near that kind of volume having been transacted before noon yesterday (when the hardcoded Prime wallets were deployed). And it looks like Prime wallets were funded directly from premine anyway, not from an exchange. Any ideas?

Josh pulled them out of his ass

[kebabman]

LOL. You just knew the latest fuck up wasn't going to be their fault, it never is! Damn those pesky PoW miners ruining their beautiful smooth transition to PoS!  

https://hashtalk.org/topic/25014/paycoin-pos-transition-update

[doogsan]

Please let me sell my hashstakers please I want to get right out of this shit hole.  

Bit pointless whining about that here isn't it?

Also, Homero lied again - he said he would take the Cash takers off zencloud so you cant buy them anymore, they are still there nearly a day later.

OMG. 24 hour delay. DEFINITELY A SCAM!!!!

Have some patience lad.

I sense the aggrieved circle jerk is running out of steam, you're definitely running out of GAW 'fails' to gush over. Maybe you guys could start a new thread for your ASIC discussion and lock this thread?

You are not a very good shrill are you, if you have been paying attention to the thread and not just your own posts you will see Homero responds to us indirectly and directly.

If he sees that not only do we want to get out with our XPY, which we have

Some of us also need to completely get out and rid us of this cancer that is cashtakers.  

Thats what it will take me to get out of this thread.  Nothing more or less.  

No its not a delay he said he will remove them from sale when he converts the remaining solos/primes to takers of cash.  No where did he say oh btw we will remove sale in x hours.  Maybe its me but I value when a person says they are going to do something and do it...and think when the opposite happens its hypocritical and right for the shit people cop for it.  Not sure where your morals are..blinded by greed perhaps ?

I'm right there with you, Josh, I know your listening as you personally messaged me before. I can even post that for people to see if I need to. But just let me out of this nightmare, let me sell my cashtakers and I'll be out of your way. That's what will get me to shut up about all this. At that point if people cannot see this bullshit for what it is, fine, but you holding us hostage, and basically gave us no real good choice to change over to hashstakers since zen miners were unprofitable.

I do have to admit, the claims that come out of gawminer have become so big with nothing behind them, it's amazing people cannot see through this. Once I saw things released it was game over for me, done with this bs.

Just sell your account. It's not that hard. Then everyone can stop listening to you whining 24/7.

SEC is rumored to be looking into GAW. How do you like them hashpoints?

[favelle75]

Please let me sell my hashstakers please I want to get right out of this shit hole.  

Bit pointless whining about that here isn't it?

Also, Homero lied again - he said he would take the Cash takers off zencloud so you cant buy them anymore, they are still there nearly a day later.

OMG. 24 hour delay. DEFINITELY A SCAM!!!!

Have some patience lad.

I sense the aggrieved circle jerk is running out of steam, you're definitely running out of GAW 'fails' to gush over. Maybe you guys could start a new thread for your ASIC discussion and lock this thread?

You are not a very good shrill are you, if you have been paying attention to the thread and not just your own posts you will see Homero responds to us indirectly and directly.

If he sees that not only do we want to get out with our XPY, which we have

Some of us also need to completely get out and rid us of this cancer that is cashtakers.  

Thats what it will take me to get out of this thread.  Nothing more or less.  

No its not a delay he said he will remove them from sale when he converts the remaining solos/primes to takers of cash.  No where did he say oh btw we will remove sale in x hours.  Maybe its me but I value when a person says they are going to do something and do it...and think when the opposite happens its hypocritical and right for the shit people cop for it.  Not sure where your morals are..blinded by greed perhaps ?

I'm right there with you, Josh, I know your listening as you personally messaged me before. I can even post that for people to see if I need to. But just let me out of this nightmare, let me sell my cashtakers and I'll be out of your way. That's what will get me to shut up about all this. At that point if people cannot see this bullshit for what it is, fine, but you holding us hostage, and basically gave us no real good choice to change over to hashstakers since zen miners were unprofitable.

I do have to admit, the claims that come out of gawminer have become so big with nothing behind them, it's amazing people cannot see through this. Once I saw things released it was game over for me, done with this bs.

Just sell your account. It's not that hard. Then everyone can stop listening to you whining 24/7.

SEC is rumored to be looking into GAW. How do you like them hashpoints?

I like them just fine. I ROI'd up the ying yang. I sank 63 BTC into GAW in August. I pulled out 100BTC and STILL have about 55-60BTC worth of Paycoin, Stakers, hashlets, etc etc. I'm in Canada....what the f**k is the SEC going to do to me?

I love the "rumored". My uncle is RUMORED to be on the moon. I'm also RUMORED to be the starting quarterback in this year's Super Bowl. LOL. See, anyone can do it.

[doogsan]

Please let me sell my hashstakers please I want to get right out of this shit hole.  

Bit pointless whining about that here isn't it?

Also, Homero lied again - he said he would take the Cash takers off zencloud so you cant buy them anymore, they are still there nearly a day later.

OMG. 24 hour delay. DEFINITELY A SCAM!!!!

Have some patience lad.

I sense the aggrieved circle jerk is running out of steam, you're definitely running out of GAW 'fails' to gush over. Maybe you guys could start a new thread for your ASIC discussion and lock this thread?

You are not a very good shrill are you, if you have been paying attention to the thread and not just your own posts you will see Homero responds to us indirectly and directly.

If he sees that not only do we want to get out with our XPY, which we have

Some of us also need to completely get out and rid us of this cancer that is cashtakers.  

Thats what it will take me to get out of this thread.  Nothing more or less.  

No its not a delay he said he will remove them from sale when he converts the remaining solos/primes to takers of cash.  No where did he say oh btw we will remove sale in x hours.  Maybe its me but I value when a person says they are going to do something and do it...and think when the opposite happens its hypocritical and right for the shit people cop for it.  Not sure where your morals are..blinded by greed perhaps ?

I'm right there with you, Josh, I know your listening as you personally messaged me before. I can even post that for people to see if I need to. But just let me out of this nightmare, let me sell my cashtakers and I'll be out of your way. That's what will get me to shut up about all this. At that point if people cannot see this bullshit for what it is, fine, but you holding us hostage, and basically gave us no real good choice to change over to hashstakers since zen miners were unprofitable.

I do have to admit, the claims that come out of gawminer have become so big with nothing behind them, it's amazing people cannot see through this. Once I saw things released it was game over for me, done with this bs.

Just sell your account. It's not that hard. Then everyone can stop listening to you whining 24/7.

SEC is rumored to be looking into GAW. How do you like them hashpoints?

I like them just fine. I ROI'd up the ying yang. I sank 63 BTC into GAW in August. I pulled out 100BTC and STILL have about 55-60BTC worth of Paycoin, Stakers, hashlets, etc etc. I'm in Canada....what the f**k is the SEC going to do to me?

I love the "rumored". My uncle is RUMORED to be on the moon. I'm also RUMORED to be the starting quarterback in this year's Super Bowl. LOL. See, anyone can do it.

Canada, you're completely fucked. They'll take your profits and hand them out to the losers of the ponzi.

[suchmoon]

Here is something that's been bothering me since the 12 million premine was announced, and I don't seem to find a definitive answer to this:

7.2 million coins (60% of the premine) are distributed to Hashpoint customers. That leaves 4.8 million to "investors". But the Prime controllers need to be funded with at least 50% of all coins in existence, i.e. ~6.17 million. 6.17 - 4.8 = 1.37 million - where are those remaining coins coming from? Is GAW borrowing from customers to fund their Prime Controllers? How were they able to do that even before the customers started putting coins into HashStakers? The only feasible alternative is that GAW bought 1.37 million coins on an exchange, but I don't see anywhere near that kind of volume having been transacted before noon yesterday (when the hardcoded Prime wallets were deployed). And it looks like Prime wallets were funded directly from premine anyway, not from an exchange. Any ideas?

Hash point customers will fund the prime controllers hence keeping a support for price

Possibly, except that I still don't see how that could have happened unless GAW took a loan without customers' consent.

Edit: or the CEO lied about the 60% distribution to customers. Wouldn't that be shocking 

[vabchgent]

Please let me sell my hashstakers please I want to get right out of this shit hole.  

Bit pointless whining about that here isn't it?

Also, Homero lied again - he said he would take the Cash takers off zencloud so you cant buy them anymore, they are still there nearly a day later.

OMG. 24 hour delay. DEFINITELY A SCAM!!!!

Have some patience lad.

I sense the aggrieved circle jerk is running out of steam, you're definitely running out of GAW 'fails' to gush over. Maybe you guys could start a new thread for your ASIC discussion and lock this thread?

You are not a very good shrill are you, if you have been paying attention to the thread and not just your own posts you will see Homero responds to us indirectly and directly.

If he sees that not only do we want to get out with our XPY, which we have

Some of us also need to completely get out and rid us of this cancer that is cashtakers.  

Thats what it will take me to get out of this thread.  Nothing more or less.  

No its not a delay he said he will remove them from sale when he converts the remaining solos/primes to takers of cash.  No where did he say oh btw we will remove sale in x hours.  Maybe its me but I value when a person says they are going to do something and do it...and think when the opposite happens its hypocritical and right for the shit people cop for it.  Not sure where your morals are..blinded by greed perhaps ?

I'm right there with you, Josh, I know your listening as you personally messaged me before. I can even post that for people to see if I need to. But just let me out of this nightmare, let me sell my cashtakers and I'll be out of your way. That's what will get me to shut up about all this. At that point if people cannot see this bullshit for what it is, fine, but you holding us hostage, and basically gave us no real good choice to change over to hashstakers since zen miners were unprofitable.

I do have to admit, the claims that come out of gawminer have become so big with nothing behind them, it's amazing people cannot see through this. Once I saw things released it was game over for me, done with this bs.

Just sell your account. It's not that hard. Then everyone can stop listening to you whining 24/7.

SEC is rumored to be looking into GAW. How do you like them hashpoints?

I like them just fine. I ROI'd up the ying yang. I sank 63 BTC into GAW in August. I pulled out 100BTC and STILL have about 55-60BTC worth of Paycoin, Stakers, hashlets, etc etc. I'm in Canada....what the f**k is the SEC going to do to me?

I love the "rumored". My uncle is RUMORED to be on the moon. I'm also RUMORED to be the starting quarterback in this year's Super Bowl. LOL. See, anyone can do it.

The SEC can go have a cease and desist order put on GAWs door and shut everything down in less time then it does for you or anyone else to withdrawal. GAW is in the US and bound by US law. Just pointing that one out

[WaffleMaster]

Can't people just do a 51% attack on Paycoin super easily and double spend?

[coinmaster222]

Cant people go to jail for that,and why would they.

[suchmoon]

LOL. You just knew the latest fuck up wasn't going to be their fault, it never is! Damn those pesky PoW miners ruining their beautiful smooth transition to PoS!  

https://hashtalk.org/topic/25014/paycoin-pos-transition-update

It's too complicated for us peasants to understand:

CryptoMadeMan
CryptoMadeMan
Transition from POW to POS is not some click your fingers deal. The magnitude of doing something like this.... seriously I am a IT person. This is not easy and it takes a lot of us working together. Do your thing dev's :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: sorry about the sleep deprivation but in the end we all love you more :grinning:

And there was a long critical post in that thread but it was gone before I could even read it. Something about GAW needing to take more care with the amounts of money involved. Can't have that kind of thinking spoil the party.

Here is is:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/25023
https://archive.today/CgUBb

[I_IZ_CEO]

I wonder if GAW will C&D Bryce, he doesn't go by a fake name, account.

Bryce Weiner @BryceWeiner  ·  Dec 20
#PayCoin didn't hard fork, which means clients will reject prime node operations.

Good luck with that.  

He does know how to make a coin and also knows the laws, this will be fun.

Bryce Weiner @BryceWeiner  ·  Dec 20
#PayCoin source review shows consensus rules for prime nodes, still violates #SEC and #FinCEN regulations.
$XPY
https://github.com/GAWMiners/paycoin/commit/6fc98f9a042a426367868809826f40d4a4d9a2ae#diff-7ec3c68a81efff79b6ca22ac1f1eabba …  

EDIT
LOL

Bryce Weiner @BryceWeiner  ·  Dec 19
.@litecamel Hahahah he blocked me, too.
@CryptoDabbler @gawceo @jmordica 

[suchmoon]

Can't people just do a 51% attack on Paycoin super easily and double spend?

People - no.

GAW - possibly.

[coinmaster222]

and no you cant, nor a DDos they are way too smart for that

[maildir]

That epic rant 

https://archive.today/rzkSZ#70%

[WaffleMaster]

Can't people just do a 51% attack on Paycoin super easily and double spend?

Cant people go to jail for that,and why would they.

I take it you're not a hacker, so you have no idea how impossible it would be to trace anything back if OPsec is done properly. Why do people do all sorts of things, including way worse than exploiting some shit coin?

[coinmaster222]

With the move from pow to pos there wallet is the most vunerable they prob need upgrades each day as Gaw might of shut down power but I know miners were still throwing Ths at it mining nothing but causing probs

[WaffleMaster]

With the move from pow to pos there wallet is the most vunerable they prob need upgrades each day as Gaw might of shut down power but I know miners were still throwing Ths at it mining nothing but causing probs

Yeah exactly. They're probably launching 51% attacks right now. It's a very high probability. Plus, somebody has got to mine the block chain or the transactions won't process.

[T0urist]

Maybe the hyperflex is so advanced that even the computers don't understand it

Well, there's no hybrid flex at all. No block chain compression.

"Prime nodes" are just the 95% premine divided up and hardcoded into the client. Rather than Proof Of Stake, it's just centralized control by GAW. They can double spend, reverse transactions, censor anything they want to. It's being poised as peercoin + darkcoin, but at least darkcoins shitty system isn't totally owned by one company. I don't really believe that the investors exist in the first place, it's too convenient that they've invested $100,000,000 USD in GAW and nobody even knows a single one of their names.

I love how the GAW zombies keep going on about innovation over there. When it stalled at POS stage one member said to be on the bleeding edge has problems but a risk he'll take.

Where is the bleeding edge and innovation? I wasnt aware paycoin had any actual additions to it so shere is all theinnovation tgey are talking about?

[T0urist]

SO BIG NEWS!! I found some secret NDA documents. I signed into GAW CEO's Google Drive with his psw josg21149. Heres what I found

Forgot the vest. Please take this feedback on board so going forward we dont have to have these little talks.

Also I lol'ed pretty hard.

Lol. I'll check his dropbox next and see what I find

What did you find on his dropbox?