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December 28, 2014, 10:40:18 AM
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Makes you wonder how their actually making anything to actually pay customers if using GPUS but then again theris a fair few coins to mine with GPU

For scrypt based altcoins, the difference between GPU and asic isnt nearly as big as for SHA. Im no expert in altcoin mining, but afaik, GPU's will be cheaper per MH  while efficiency is only 'a bit' worse (factors, not orders of magnitude). So if you have really really cheap electricity, it could make sense.

Here is the problem though: they claim to mine with 7970's, which would yield ~700Kh each. They have sold over 6000MH. Thats ~8500 of such GPU's. SO seeing 60 in a picture doesnt exactly convince me. In the early days of bitcoin mining, many of us had larger private farms.

It's just a presentation. How much they have, probably we never see.

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December 28, 2014, 11:01:21 AM
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It's just a presentation. How much they have, probably we never see.

And why not? Because they dont own a smartphone with camera or because they dont have it?
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December 28, 2014, 11:02:37 AM
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December 28, 2014, 11:04:40 AM
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What do you know, hashie suddenly doesnt look too healthy either. Problems with payouts and operator is posting encoded message that contains lyrics with "Conceal, don't feel, don't let them know
Well, now they know!'.
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December 28, 2014, 11:07:04 AM
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It would be really disappointing. After all they are/were ASCIMiner partners. Either way it is a gross mismanagement to treat their customers that way.

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December 28, 2014, 11:09:14 AM
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Ive always said AM(hash) made a huge error of judgment letting hashie resell their product. Amhash admitted they dont even know the identity of the operator. All they did was give credibility to a scam, a scam that even competed with them.
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December 28, 2014, 11:16:54 AM
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I saw that you put Zeus under possible a ponzi...I live in Hong Kong and have been to Shenzhen a few times to meet Terry, the CEO of Zeus. I have seen the mining farms with my own eyes. He is definitely not a ponzi scheme.

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December 28, 2014, 11:19:14 AM
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I saw that you put Zeus under possible a ponzi...I live in Hong Kong and have been to Shenzhen a few times to meet Terry, the CEO of Zeus. I have seen the mining farms with my own eyes. He is definitely not a ponzi scheme.

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If you had made some convincing pictures or video's and posted those I might grant them that point. I can only judge what I can check, not eye witness reports of people with (no offense) no credibility here.
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December 28, 2014, 02:23:26 PM
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I purchased hardware from Zeus, it broke (in warranty), and they have completely ignored countless emails, forum posts and pms.
It may not be a Ponzi, but Terry is definitely a scam artist.
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December 28, 2014, 03:11:56 PM
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Ponzi schemes developed, and should be added number 8
Hashprofit now asking money for sending them a message (0.03 BTC!). And if you see there are no connection between message and payment.
You just pay and... message goes somewhere or maybe not... Don't be fooled.
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December 28, 2014, 03:16:51 PM
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Ponzi schemes developed, and should be added number 8
Hashprofit now asking money for sending them a message (0.03 BTC!). And if you see there are no connection between message and payment.
You just pay and... message goes somewhere or maybe not... Don't be fooled.

yep, It doesn't look good:

"Our service was under the most severe attack ever. Due to most specialists' holidays we've decided for a reliable safety of users' funds to suspend site's work until the first Monday of 2015 (5th of January). Everybody will return to standard work then and we'll continue our work in a usual way. Please be calm. Thank you for understanding.

To keep contact with our users and to separate priority mail from spam, we've developed mail accepting via BTC payments. For guaranteed processing of your message you'll have to pay small amount through an interface below.

We've successfully deflected serious threats and attacks on our service earlier and we're sure that together we can do this even in a situation this hard."

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December 28, 2014, 03:29:06 PM
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Ponzi schemes developed, and should be added number 8
Hashprofit now asking money for sending them a message (0.03 BTC!). And if you see there are no connection between message and payment.
You just pay and... message goes somewhere or maybe not... Don't be fooled.

yep, It doesn't look good:

"Our service was under the most severe attack ever. Due to most specialists' holidays we've decided for a reliable safety of users' funds to suspend site's work until the first Monday of 2015 (5th of January). Everybody will return to standard work then and we'll continue our work in a usual way. Please be calm. Thank you for understanding.

To keep contact with our users and to separate priority mail from spam, we've developed mail accepting via BTC payments. For guaranteed processing of your message you'll have to pay small amount through an interface below.

We've successfully deflected serious threats and attacks on our service earlier and we're sure that together we can do this even in a situation this hard."


Where did you get this from?

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December 28, 2014, 03:36:21 PM
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Thats from HashProfit

http://www.hashprofit.com/en/

Another SCAM!
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December 28, 2014, 04:20:59 PM
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Thats from HashProfit

http://www.hashprofit.com/en/

Another SCAM!


Yep. You cann't open from https but from http: you can see official statement.

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December 28, 2014, 05:10:10 PM
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Ponzi schemes developed, and should be added number 8
Hashprofit now asking money for sending them a message (0.03 BTC!). And if you see there are no connection between message and payment.
You just pay and... message goes somewhere or maybe not... Don't be fooled.

Wow, that's a new one.. Charging to send an email... I just saw that. Hahahah man, that takes the cake. 

It looks like hashie.co has imploded as well.



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December 28, 2014, 05:25:08 PM
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Wow, that's a new one.. Charging to send an email... I just saw that. Hahahah man, that takes the cake. 

Its not new. The idea of using btc (or namecoins) as digital stamps for messaging services to prevent spam has been around since almost the beginning.
$10 is a bit excessive though Smiley.

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It looks like hashie.co has imploded as well.

Yeah, imagine my surprise  Roll Eyes
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December 28, 2014, 06:42:28 PM
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OMG what a terrible mess with all these ponzi's collapsing. Thanks again Puppet for all your effort in warming people. I'm sure things would be even worse if you hadn't.

And I share your concern that it would've been better if these ponzi's collapsed much earlier. I've read trhough some of the threads of these collapsing ponzi's, and actually see some people make the comment that they don't really care that it collapses, as long as they have more then a ROI. Terrible.

It sure is a lot of drama. Good material for a book or documentary.

=P
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December 28, 2014, 10:26:32 PM
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Thats from HashProfit

http://www.hashprofit.com/en/

Another SCAM!


WHAHAHA! Another shit scam!

Check out hashie.co Enjoy the music Smiley

http://imgur.com/VBuZeDs
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December 28, 2014, 10:32:59 PM
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Ponzi schemes developed, and should be added number 8
Hashprofit now asking money for sending them a message (0.03 BTC!). And if you see there are no connection between message and payment.
You just pay and... message goes somewhere or maybe not... Don't be fooled.

Wow, that's a new one.. Charging to send an email... I just saw that. Hahahah man, that takes the cake.  

It looks like hashie.co has imploded as well.

what's up with hashie.co and the morse code message?

"hashie.co/scs"
"cake the cake is a lie"


it the ARG address the cake ?

Happy Mining
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December 29, 2014, 12:37:57 AM
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@Puppet

Dude, I give +5 to you. Very nice analysis, and I am happy I did not bet against your predictions. These scam mining shits are crashing at amazing rate! Good experience for those, who try everything on their skin, instead of making an intelligent decision. Sorry for those, who invested their retirement savings into these scams Smiley
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