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June 08, 2015, 09:41:54 AM
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add HaoBTC in your list (are legit or not ?)

ANN] HaoBTC, mining dividend paid out hourly
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1023187.0

they give proofs of actual mining

1. BTCjam: Mining and trading loan #4 https://goo.gl/rwj84u , 2. Scrypt.cc Cloud Mining with 120 Days ROI http://goo.gl/LXomWh ,
3. Haas Bot Trade your Cryptos http://goo.gl/unM0TF , 4. Bitgold Invest to BTC & Gold http://goo.gl/7T3K6O
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June 08, 2015, 07:30:51 PM
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add HaoBTC in your list (are legit or not ?)

ANN] HaoBTC, mining dividend paid out hourly
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1023187.0

they give proofs of actual mining

Although this is more of a banking interest paid with miners (not mining directly) I have a significant amount of bitcoin in this site as well so would be interested in seeing OPs assessment as well.
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June 08, 2015, 08:26:51 PM
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... as well so would be interested in seeing OPs assessment as well.

That may be a problem, as Puppet seems to be inactive lately, his last post was done 3 weeks ago. Hope he's OK.
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June 08, 2015, 08:30:46 PM
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i didnt know i Hope he's OK. Smiley

1. BTCjam: Mining and trading loan #4 https://goo.gl/rwj84u , 2. Scrypt.cc Cloud Mining with 120 Days ROI http://goo.gl/LXomWh ,
3. Haas Bot Trade your Cryptos http://goo.gl/unM0TF , 4. Bitgold Invest to BTC & Gold http://goo.gl/7T3K6O
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June 08, 2015, 08:41:10 PM
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https://www.bitcoincloudservices.com/ have missed their payout today Sad

All ponzies have to end one day.. Even if they resume payouts tomorrow - they will not a week afterwards.. If you still can (don't know if they even provide an exit option which I highly doubt) I would suggest you to withdraw everything you have and invest in some legit servies like Bit-x or Hashnest Smiley

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June 08, 2015, 10:44:16 PM
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add HaoBTC in your list (are legit or not ?)

ANN] HaoBTC, mining dividend paid out hourly
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1023187.0

they give proofs of actual mining

Although this is more of a banking interest paid with miners (not mining directly) I have a significant amount of bitcoin in this site as well so would be interested in seeing OPs assessment as well.

I like HaoBTC very much and have already set up a wallet to take advantage of the 9% interest. One of the most transparent companies I have ever come across.

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June 09, 2015, 09:59:31 AM
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Just for your information: I have modelled the payouts and income from Bitcoin Cloud Services. They are now probably paying out more BTC to their users than they receive as income from new users. For the period from Apr 23 to May 5 they probably lost approx. 25 BTC each day.

Draw your own conclusions...

What if they had got 25+BTC before April 23?

I used my model to calculate that as well. In the past they made (huge) profits. This is the first time they are losing Bitcoin for a period of time.

It is very likely that Bitcoin Cloud Mining is a Ponzi scheme. As such they will probably not want to run on a loss for a long period of time. If they continue to lose money, I would expect them to shut down the operation in the next couple of weeks.

Heh. We ll see how good are your forecasts. For the sake of people who invested there, I home your are wrong.

They lost 60-70 BTC/day in the last two days. Thus, they might try to make a new offer to boost their sales one last time. After that the Ponzi will collapse. Unfortunately, there is no hope in this case.


It seems Bitcoin Cloud Services has stopped making any payouts.

The last "special offer" gave them some income for a few weeks, but it is over now and they are closing down. No surprise, unfortunately.
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June 09, 2015, 01:35:07 PM
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https://www.bitcoincloudservices.com/ have missed their payout today Sad

Yep 2 days now with no payment. Lucky I got my ROI plus 2 BTC in commission but feel sorry for those that got burned.

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June 09, 2015, 02:15:39 PM
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why bitcoin cloud services not payment me 2 day what wrong bitcoin cloud services???
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June 09, 2015, 02:16:58 PM
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why bitcoin cloud services not payment me 2 day what wrong bitcoin cloud services???

they have no power...
no power, no mining
no mining, no payments

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June 09, 2015, 02:21:51 PM
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honestly do not trust any cloudmining company that does not have at least one of the few things (possible several):
pictures of the mining farm (and not just a very small portion)
vouched to be backed by a MAJOR ASIC company (bitmain,bitfury,etc) or IS a major ASIC company
proof of mining (mining address, wallet, etc)
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June 09, 2015, 03:03:08 PM
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Don't believe those gamble bobos guys come to scrypt.cc its very good nice cheap khs good payment every 10minutes.
Every company can have badtimes but scrypt.cc is already over it. come today start making profit right away.
YOU can withdraw anytime no contract bullshit and sell at any time.

Infact i think these guys working for good listed cloudmine websites.
and marking website ponzi for his own profit!
Don't be stupid start today making money and lose those crappy cloudminewebsites!
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June 09, 2015, 03:07:11 PM
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Don't believe those gamble bobos guys come to scrypt.cc its very good nice cheap khs good payment every 10minutes.
Every company can have badtimes but scrypt.cc is already over it. come today start making profit right away.
YOU can withdraw anytime no contract bullshit and sell at any time.

Infact i think these guys working for good listed cloudmine websites.
and marking website ponzi for his own profit!
Don't be stupid start today making money and lose those crappy cloudminewebsites!

What coin(s) or algorithm(s) is scrypt.cc mining? How much hashrate does it have?

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June 10, 2015, 01:44:08 AM
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add HaoBTC in your list (are legit or not ?)

ANN] HaoBTC, mining dividend paid out hourly
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1023187.0

they give proofs of actual mining

Although this is more of a banking interest paid with miners (not mining directly) I have a significant amount of bitcoin in this site as well so would be interested in seeing OPs assessment as well.

I like HaoBTC very much and have already set up a wallet to take advantage of the 9% interest. One of the most transparent companies I have ever come across.

HAOBTC on news
http://www.coindesk.com/my-life-inside-a-remote-chinese-bitcoin-mine/

that company look like real and not fake
i like that
but minimum buy finansial is very high we need 10btc to buy it

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June 10, 2015, 01:51:17 AM
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that company look like real and not fake
i like that
but minimum buy finansial is very high we need 10btc to buy it

No minimum for banking account. And still 8%!!

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June 10, 2015, 01:52:25 AM
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that company look like real and not fake
i like that
but minimum buy finansial is very high we need 10btc to buy it

No minimum for banking account. And still 8%!!
this for financial


what is banking acc ?

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June 10, 2015, 01:56:57 AM
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I opened acct today.. and have already gained interest!!!  Cheesy
(it is paid/accrued hourly)


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June 10, 2015, 01:59:35 AM
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I have read that the banking accounts are more like mining accounts..hence the lower interest compared to the financial accounts
and the financial accounts are more like loans to them (haobtc) for the business itself
If you read more on some of the threads about them they are also aiming to be an exchange (kinda like coinbase, etc)
They have agreements with many major Chinese banks like Coinbase does with Amercian banks.

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June 10, 2015, 02:07:30 AM
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I have read that the banking accounts are more like mining accounts..hence the lower interest compared to the financial accounts
and the financial accounts are more like loans to them (haobtc) for the business itself

i m still confused about BANK interest
are i can withdraw my balance anytime, and when i get 8%, and how to calculate 8% amount /year /month /week / hour
i post in here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1085039.msg11579147#msg11579147
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June 10, 2015, 02:39:48 AM
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I have read that the banking accounts are more like mining accounts..hence the lower interest compared to the financial accounts
and the financial accounts are more like loans to them (haobtc) for the business itself

i m still confused about BANK interest
are i can withdraw my balance anytime, and when i get 8%, and how to calculate 8% amount /year /month /week / hour
i post in here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1085039.msg11579147#msg11579147
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Its bank interest. Assuming you do not use their new financing option and just deposit into the bank part its 8% in terms of annual year but you get paid every hour. You can pull it out anytime but essentially depending when its pulled you lose one hour of interest.
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