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March 07, 2015, 08:13:46 PM
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you just dont include enough Smiley because if you did you could claim you were right on 100 out of 101, but the thing is that on the only one that was important YOU WERE WRONG. nobody doubts hashnest is legit and all those other are so obvious its even funny to rate them.  Wink

So you knew hashie, pbmining etc where ponzi's all along? Good on you, but let me tell you precious few people believed me at the time. And its those people I tried reaching with this 101.

As for nobody doubting hashnest, tell me, how is it more legit than amhash was?



pbmining? come on man  Grin Grin Grin

and i will tell you how hashnest is more legit - maybe because bitmain is a legit company producing miners and shipping all over the world and rockminer is a dead company (read rockminer announcement about themselves out of business if you haven't) , not even talking about asicminer which is not a company at all, it seems asicminer is just some mistreated cat or smth. what a scam have they forged before going bankrupt... amazing isn't it?  Wink

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March 07, 2015, 08:25:23 PM
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and i will tell you how hashnest is more legit - maybe because bitmain is a legit company producing miners and shipping all over the world and rockminer is a dead company (read rockminer announcement about themselves out of business if you haven't) , not even talking about asicminer which is not a company at all, it seems asicminer is just some mistreated cat or smth. what a scam have they forged before going bankrupt... amazing isn't it?  Wink

Asicminer has been around much longer than Bitmain (around 1 year longer), and has been a "legit company" producing miners and shipping them all over the world for ~2.5 years now. They've sold millions of dollars worth of hardware and scammed absolutely nobody before this debacle.

Bitmain/hashnest just as easily could have had their hardware stolen and/or CEO disappear and you'd be left holding the bag just like AM/AMhash holders are today.

Puppets guide doesn't guarantee you won't get scammed (even the most legit businesses can turn in to scams), it just helps you pick out the obvious scams (like Kryptologika which you seem to be seriously considering).
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March 07, 2015, 08:36:29 PM
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and i will tell you how hashnest is more legit - maybe because bitmain is a legit company producing miners and shipping all over the world

How would that not apply to AM? In fact, AM had been around and 'shipping miners all over the world' for quite a bit  longer than Bitmain.

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and rockminer is a dead company (read rockminer announcement about themselves out of business if you haven't)

Rockminers problem where well known, but its not rockminer that caused this. Its AM's vanishing act.
Who saw that coming? Did you ? There was no more reason to think this would happen to AM than there is reason now to think the same will happen to Bitmain, Bitfury, SPtech or anyone else. Thats what the disclaimer is for, I dont pretend to be able to predict stuff like that,  but if you expect me to predict meteorite crashes, lottery numbers or entire warehouses being stolen or CEO's vanishing/ being kidnapped / whatever, my crystal ball isnt that good.


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pbmining? come on man  Grin Grin Grin

Your own posting history shows that while you had doubts and asked the right questions, you were far from certain if PBmining, Hashie and many of the other oh so obvious scams where at all scams.
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March 07, 2015, 08:56:20 PM
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not that i would believe a word you say, but i was talking about the state of the companies at the time of being ''rated''. btw i dont get how a vanish of ceo can be a life changing event for a BIG company, well unless its 10 person company. either way i am tired and i'll go to sleep now, i just wanted to say - i hate you guys (well not sure if thats not the same person but...) because of promoting scams.  Angry

p.s. the way you defend this puppet, makes your rating irrelevant - if what you say is even supposed to be true then your rating is of no value, you should rename it to scam rating not ponzi rating and include very different and deeper criteria... Roll Eyes

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March 07, 2015, 08:58:36 PM
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Your own posting history shows that while you had doubts and asked the right questions, you were far from certain if PBmining, Hashie and many of the other oh so obvious scams where at all scams.
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of course i was... just wanted some other opinions  Tongue Grin and wanted to become a hero member and start my own rating thread Grin

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March 07, 2015, 09:00:41 PM
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btw i even liked hashie and i listen to their goodbye song once in a while, i dont blame them - i got tranfered to amhash, all i blame is you  Grin

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March 07, 2015, 09:03:35 PM
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of course i was ... Grin i just wanted to become a hero member and start my own rating thread Grin

You should start your own thread. A good title would be "flyingplows misinformation and baseless ratings thread".
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March 07, 2015, 09:03:57 PM
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Please use the edit button.
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March 07, 2015, 09:12:36 PM
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p.s. the way you defend this puppet makes your rating irrelevant - if what you say is supposed to be true then your rating is of no value, you should rename it scam rating not ponzi rating and include very different and deeper criteria... Roll Eyes

Whats the difference between scam rating and ponzi rating?

What you dont seem to understand is that Im quite sure about the sites labeled scam being scams , and that is the reason for this thread. What I cant know, nor pretend to know is what investments in companies that arent obvious scams will pan out or fail for whatever reasons. Thats where your own due diligence and risk assessment comes in, and blaming me for your failure at that is quite unfair.

Im also tired of hearing I promoted AM, when it got the same rating as Hashnest (am I promoting that too now?) and the same rating even as Cryptx which I had been arguing for months was a monumentally stupid investment. But all these companies did prove not being obvious ponzi's without hashrate, and were scored as such.

But the ONLY thing I ever promoted is keeping your coins in a cold wallet. I never promoted anything else. Had you actually listened to me, you wouldnt have lost a satoshi.
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March 07, 2015, 09:15:34 PM
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p.s. the way you defend this puppet makes your rating irrelevant - if what you say is supposed to be true then your rating is of no value, you should rename it scam rating not ponzi rating and include very different and deeper criteria... Roll Eyes

Whats the difference between scam rating and ponzi rating?

What you dont seem to understand is that Im quite sure about the sites labeled scam being scams , and that is the reason for this thread. What I cant know, nor pretend to know is what investments in companies that arent obvious scams will pan out or fail for whatever reasons. Thats where your own due diligence and risk assessment comes in, and blaming me for your failure at that is quite unfair.

Im also tired of hearing I promoted AM, when it got the same rating as Hashnest (am I promoting that too now?) and the same rating even as Cryptx which I had been arguing for months was a monumentally stupid investment. But all these companies did prove not being obvious ponzi's without hashrate, and were scored as such.

But the ONLY thing I ever promoted is keeping your coins in a cold wallet. I never promoted anything else. Had you actually listened to me, you wouldnt have lost a satoshi.

''the difference between scam rating and ponzi rating?''

well according to you amhash is not a ponzi but its a scam and everybody knows it by now, it is one of the biggest if not the biggest scam of 2014 cloudmining



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March 07, 2015, 09:24:26 PM
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''the difference between scam rating and ponzi rating?''

well according to you amhash is not a ponzi but its a scam and everybody knows it by now, it is one of the biggest if not the biggest scam of 2014 cloudmining

Where do I say its a scam? I have no idea what is going on at AM. And I sure as hell couldnt have predicted it anyhow.

But if you expect me to predict which established legitimate companies will turn in to scams in the future, Id sure love to hear what criteria you would apply.  Post them in your own thread, lets see how you do. Lets see if you correctly predict the next KnC, Avalon or possibly, AM.  I dont have that pretense, Il stick to predicting the next pbmining.
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March 07, 2015, 09:29:29 PM
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Look Pup, you have had such nobile intentions, you have became even popular, an authority in the field of ponzis and scams of all sorts in bitcoin mining and look what happened? You were fooled, not your fault but still someone followed your recommendation/opinion and lost.

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March 07, 2015, 09:31:39 PM
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How is AMPonziHash not downgraded yet? I see it as 0-7 still...regardless of situation they have been a Ponzi for months.

I think, as a trusted member of the community, you should come forward and leave -ve feedback on FriedCat and Puppet, so that no more newbie gets fooled by these scammers. The scam has happened in this case. It is not a conjecture any more...

I AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMER
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March 07, 2015, 09:35:46 PM
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How is AMPonziHash not downgraded yet? I see it as 0-7 still...regardless of situation they have been a Ponzi for months.

I think, as a trusted member of the community, you should come forward and leave -ve feedback on FriedCat and Puppet, so that no more newbie gets fooled by these scammers. The scam has happened in this case. It is not a conjecture any more...

Or even better, give russianrainbow/germangiant/spanishsoldier (all the same person) negative feedback for promoting and likely operating the most obvious ponzi known as cloudmining.website.
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March 07, 2015, 09:39:53 PM
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''the difference between scam rating and ponzi rating?''

well according to you amhash is not a ponzi but its a scam and everybody knows it by now, it is one of the biggest if not the biggest scam of 2014 cloudmining

Where do I say its a scam? I have no idea what is going on at AM. And I sure as hell couldnt have predicted it anyhow.

But if you expect me to predict which established legitimate companies will turn in to scams in the future, Id sure love to hear what criteria you would apply.  Post them in your own thread, lets see how you do. Lets see if you correctly predict the next KnC, Avalon or possibly, AM.  I dont have that pretense, Il stick to predicting the next pbmining.

1. you did not say AM is scam, but it turned out to be a scam with excuses comparable to hashie and everyone here is aware of this (you just read those insane theft excuses that are impossible to even happen)
btw, its still a mystery for me: are those native people there in china are such stupid that believe this shit of amhash or amhash thinks people in west are so sick anybody would believe those things about friedcat, theft, etc.
2. AM is no more.
3. i dont have my own thread, i said i'll start my own if you get out of this dry Wink
4. of course you could have predicted it - two nearly bankrupt companies, both out of the business at that moment making last attempt to scam on obsolete hardware... man, i wish i learned about crypto a few months earlier...
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March 07, 2015, 09:42:39 PM
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3. i dont have my own thread, i said i'll start my own if you get out of this dry Wink

Please do that and stop posting in this thread. You've made it obvious by now that you have no clue what you're talking about.
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March 07, 2015, 09:43:33 PM
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How is AMPonziHash not downgraded yet? I see it as 0-7 still...regardless of situation they have been a Ponzi for months.

I think, as a trusted member of the community, you should come forward and leave -ve feedback on FriedCat and Puppet, so that no more newbie gets fooled by these scammers. The scam has happened in this case. It is not a conjecture any more...

Or even better, give russianrainbow/germangiant/spanishsoldier (all the same person) negative feedback for promoting and likely operating the most obvious ponzi known as cloudmining.website.

How funny... I never took part in any sig campaign at all !!! Roll Eyes

I'm repeating the portion of my text to justify the -ve feedback on FriedCat and Puppet.

The scam has happened in this case. It is not a conjecture any more...

I AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMERI AM A SCAMMER
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March 07, 2015, 09:45:03 PM
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Look Pup, you have had such nobile intentions, you have became even popular, an authority in the field of ponzis and scams of all sorts in bitcoin mining and look what happened? You were fooled, not your fault but still someone followed your recommendation/opinion and lost.

I wasnt fooled. Surprised, yes, not fooled because I never claimed or thought I could predict the future of every company or everything in the universe. You see, I dont play on the lottery or try to predict the numbers. I do predict my neighbour will lose on his lottery investments, and I tend to get that right pretty much all the time. And yet, you could say I get surprised by every lottery drawing, but its ridiculous to say I get fooled by them just because I didnt predict them.

And anyone who "followed my recommendation/opinion" would still have all his coins in his wallet. If you bought AMhash or anything else listed in the OP, then you did not follow my recommendation. If that turns out badly, thats on you, not on me.
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March 07, 2015, 09:47:09 PM
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4. of course you could have predicted it -

So why didnt you?
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March 07, 2015, 09:55:02 PM
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4. of course you could have predicted it -

So why didnt you?

because i just entered crypto at that point, you can see this on account creation Smiley and i was misled by you..
now i could predict it Smiley

oh and to that jimoty or whatever shill - you go bash amhash now as you did on gaw cause gaw is an angel in the way they scammed their customers compared to this china corrupt bastards shit

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