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[Puppet]

It's just a presentation. How much they have, probably we never see.

And why not? Because they dont own a smartphone with camera or because they dont have it?

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[blackice2013]

^^

[Puppet]

What do you know, hashie suddenly doesnt look too healthy either. Problems with payouts and operator is posting encoded message that contains lyrics with "Conceal, don't feel, don't let them know
Well, now they know!'.

[l3sny]

It would be really disappointing. After all they are/were ASCIMiner partners. Either way it is a gross mismanagement to treat their customers that way.

[Puppet]

Ive always said AM(hash) made a huge error of judgment letting hashie resell their product. Amhash admitted they dont even know the identity of the operator. All they did was give credibility to a scam, a scam that even competed with them.

[freakingcat]

I saw that you put Zeus under possible a ponzi...I live in Hong Kong and have been to Shenzhen a few times to meet Terry, the CEO of Zeus. I have seen the mining farms with my own eyes. He is definitely not a ponzi scheme.

@freakingcat

[Puppet]

I saw that you put Zeus under possible a ponzi...I live in Hong Kong and have been to Shenzhen a few times to meet Terry, the CEO of Zeus. I have seen the mining farms with my own eyes. He is definitely not a ponzi scheme.

@freakingcat

If you had made some convincing pictures or video's and posted those I might grant them that point. I can only judge what I can check, not eye witness reports of people with (no offense) no credibility here.

[simiane]

I purchased hardware from Zeus, it broke (in warranty), and they have completely ignored countless emails, forum posts and pms.
It may not be a Ponzi, but Terry is definitely a scam artist.

[Lordas]

Ponzi schemes developed, and should be added number 8
Hashprofit now asking money for sending them a message (0.03 BTC!). And if you see there are no connection between message and payment.
You just pay and... message goes somewhere or maybe not... Don't be fooled.

[bigadam0101]

Ponzi schemes developed, and should be added number 8
Hashprofit now asking money for sending them a message (0.03 BTC!). And if you see there are no connection between message and payment.
You just pay and... message goes somewhere or maybe not... Don't be fooled.

yep, It doesn't look good:

"Our service was under the most severe attack ever. Due to most specialists' holidays we've decided for a reliable safety of users' funds to suspend site's work until the first Monday of 2015 (5th of January). Everybody will return to standard work then and we'll continue our work in a usual way. Please be calm. Thank you for understanding.

To keep contact with our users and to separate priority mail from spam, we've developed mail accepting via BTC payments. For guaranteed processing of your message you'll have to pay small amount through an interface below.

We've successfully deflected serious threats and attacks on our service earlier and we're sure that together we can do this even in a situation this hard."

[l3sny]

Ponzi schemes developed, and should be added number 8
Hashprofit now asking money for sending them a message (0.03 BTC!). And if you see there are no connection between message and payment.
You just pay and... message goes somewhere or maybe not... Don't be fooled.

yep, It doesn't look good:

"Our service was under the most severe attack ever. Due to most specialists' holidays we've decided for a reliable safety of users' funds to suspend site's work until the first Monday of 2015 (5th of January). Everybody will return to standard work then and we'll continue our work in a usual way. Please be calm. Thank you for understanding.

To keep contact with our users and to separate priority mail from spam, we've developed mail accepting via BTC payments. For guaranteed processing of your message you'll have to pay small amount through an interface below.

We've successfully deflected serious threats and attacks on our service earlier and we're sure that together we can do this even in a situation this hard."

Where did you get this from?

[blackice2013]

Thats from HashProfit

http://www.hashprofit.com/en/

Another SCAM!

[bigadam0101]

Thats from HashProfit

http://www.hashprofit.com/en/

Another SCAM!

Yep. You cann't open from https but from http: you can see official statement.

[cloverme]

Ponzi schemes developed, and should be added number 8
Hashprofit now asking money for sending them a message (0.03 BTC!). And if you see there are no connection between message and payment.
You just pay and... message goes somewhere or maybe not... Don't be fooled.

Wow, that's a new one.. Charging to send an email... I just saw that. Hahahah man, that takes the cake. 

It looks like hashie.co has imploded as well.

[Puppet]

Wow, that's a new one.. Charging to send an email... I just saw that. Hahahah man, that takes the cake. 

Its not new. The idea of using btc (or namecoins) as digital stamps for messaging services to prevent spam has been around since almost the beginning.
$10 is a bit excessive though .

It looks like hashie.co has imploded as well.

Yeah, imagine my surprise 

[julian071]

OMG what a terrible mess with all these ponzi's collapsing. Thanks again Puppet for all your effort in warming people. I'm sure things would be even worse if you hadn't.

And I share your concern that it would've been better if these ponzi's collapsed much earlier. I've read trhough some of the threads of these collapsing ponzi's, and actually see some people make the comment that they don't really care that it collapses, as long as they have more then a ROI. Terrible.

It sure is a lot of drama. Good material for a book or documentary.

[yvv]

Thats from HashProfit

http://www.hashprofit.com/en/

Another SCAM!

WHAHAHA! Another shit scam!

Check out hashie.co Enjoy the music

http://imgur.com/VBuZeDs

[skynex66]

Ponzi schemes developed, and should be added number 8
Hashprofit now asking money for sending them a message (0.03 BTC!). And if you see there are no connection between message and payment.
You just pay and... message goes somewhere or maybe not... Don't be fooled.

Wow, that's a new one.. Charging to send an email... I just saw that. Hahahah man, that takes the cake.  

It looks like hashie.co has imploded as well.

what's up with hashie.co and the morse code message?

"hashie.co/scs"
"cake the cake is a lie"


it the ARG address the cake ?

[yvv]

@Puppet

Dude, I give +5 to you. Very nice analysis, and I am happy I did not bet against your predictions. These scam mining shits are crashing at amazing rate! Good experience for those, who try everything on their skin, instead of making an intelligent decision. Sorry for those, who invested their retirement savings into these scams

[flame1012]

HashProfit.com was so obviously scam.
Each time I went to their site, there was a warning that their stock was almost sold out, and the nex day they just came out with millions of new stock
And they had unbelievable deductions like 55%, 65% and I even got an email providing a 75% OFF coupon

LTCgear Chris, is my favorite scammer. You can't buy anything cheap from him, you gotta shoot a grand to join the club
He even didn't care about paying someone to set up a good looking and well functioning website with automatic payment script.
ROI went down to 2 weeks sometimes and his "bye bye referal system, I can't pay the ponzi anymore" coupon was %49
When I warned people, they called me a jerk at the forum.

BTW GAW is scam too.
 Some of their hashlets stopped paying.
I had 1 ZenHashlet (10mhs scrypt), It was paying about 5000 sats daily and
it started paying only 1 sat daily right after hashpoint conversion to XPY and XPY release.
That is definetly scam.

GAW and LTCgear has fellow cult members, I won't feel sorry for them at all.

You have Hashnest as a legit company on your list, but I have to warn you about their customer support.
It sucks and they never care to interact with their customers.
You should add a customer care evaluation in this scam measurement.

You don't get your payments at hashnest, you got no one to complain or ask for help there.
Go check their talk and see the unanswered "I didn't get paid" treads.

Be also careful about legit companies, if BTC price keeps going down and difficulty up, they might unintentionally turn into loss as well.