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May 13, 2015, 07:38:45 AM
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It is an incomplete list. It does not contain cloudmining.website, which is paying consistently for over six months now and publishing blockchain payment proof - www.cloudmining.website/payments.php

If you read the very first page of this thread cloudmining.website is listed as a probable ponzi. I maintain a list of proven legit services, and also steer readers away from the ponzis.

yet you mention Cloudminr.io?

Mentioning is no endorsement. From the article "We recommend you invest with caution in the riskier cloud mining services like Bitcoin Cloud Services and cloudminr.io if at all. Those providers neither provide photo evidence of a real mining operation or a public mining address. Any cloud mining investment carries some risk so do your homework before buying."

Also "If transparency and legitimacy are key you can purchase bitcoin cloud mining from Hashnest, GetHashing, ZeusHash, BW.com or Bit-X."

It's your money, invest as you please.

What a hypocrite !!! You are mentioning BitcoinCloudServices.com, CloudMinr.io, even a cnfirmed SCAM like Bit-X and you are omitting CloudMining.website & Scrypt.cc, who are paying for more than six months now, on the logic of being Ponzi ? Moreover, you are claiming that your list is the Full List ? Shocked

It's a bit funny that only a few days after this Scrypt.cc collapses. Anyway, I thought CloudMining.website is out of the game long time ago, they are not paying or paying dust to its customers from what I've read here, like PBmining in its final phase.

Scrypt.cc s gonna be back. Fun with these guys does not stop that easily, after all it s a form of gamble.

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May 14, 2015, 07:33:21 PM
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I've made ROI at bitcoin cloud mining services.  I think it was something like 200 days but mine was a very small investment... I think .15 BTC.  I was lucky and signed up when they had 5-year contracts.  I think they have a promotion running now where it's a 2-year contract.  Not sure if it's worth the risk but maybe okay for a small venture.  I may throw another .15 that way... or not :-)

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May 15, 2015, 12:40:21 AM
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I've made ROI at bitcoin cloud mining services.  I think it was something like 200 days but mine was a very small investment... I think .15 BTC.  I was lucky and signed up when they had 5-year contracts.  I think they have a promotion running now where it's a 2-year contract.  Not sure if it's worth the risk but maybe okay for a small venture.  I may throw another .15 that way... or not :-)

If you have .15 to toss away, PM me. I promise to return some of your investment back to you at some later date.

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May 15, 2015, 05:25:49 AM
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I've made ROI at bitcoin cloud mining services.  I think it was something like 200 days but mine was a very small investment... I think .15 BTC.  I was lucky and signed up when they had 5-year contracts.  I think they have a promotion running now where it's a 2-year contract.  Not sure if it's worth the risk but maybe okay for a small venture.  I may throw another .15 that way... or not :-)

If you have .15 to toss away, PM me. I promise to return some of your investment back to you at some later date.

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May 15, 2015, 09:27:25 AM
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Puppet could you write a final assessment on scrypt.cc for more visibility, because weird things happening to them during last days and more people can get scammed. Thanks.

scrypt.cc             1+2+3+4+5+6        => 6/7 = Ponzi (preliminary assessment)

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May 16, 2015, 04:29:41 PM
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Puppet could you write a final assessment on scrypt.cc for more visibility, because weird things happening to them during last days and more people can get scammed. Thanks.

scrypt.cc             1+2+3+4+5+6        => 6/7 = Ponzi (preliminary assessment)
weird things happend for sure, but they came back (they could simple disapear), and the rewards drop it's due to new eletrical fees which they are working around a some improvement is to be made on the next few days, not saying it's not a ponzi, but not a reason to consider 100% sure.

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May 16, 2015, 06:45:23 PM
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Puppet could you write a final assessment on scrypt.cc for more visibility, because weird things happening to them during last days and more people can get scammed. Thanks.

scrypt.cc             1+2+3+4+5+6        => 6/7 = Ponzi (preliminary assessment)
weird things happend for sure, but they came back (they could simple disapear), and the rewards drop it's due to new eletrical fees which they are working around a some improvement is to be made on the next few days, not saying it's not a ponzi, but not a reason to consider 100% sure.

If a ponzi stops their payment for a few days and then resumes it doesn't make scrypt.cc more legit because of that, at least in my list.

What do you guys think about MiningSweden? It not rated here for some reason and clearly is more discussed than some other shitty scams listed.

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May 16, 2015, 07:05:02 PM
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If a ponzi stops their payment for a few days and then resumes it doesn't make them more legit because of that, at least in my list. What do you guys think about MiningSweden? It not rated here for some reason and clearly is more discussed than some other shitty scams listed.

They seem to be legit. Lots of videos and photos or their miners. The only problem is ROI, no detailed info about that, at least I do not know what their VIP shares might bring.

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May 16, 2015, 10:18:12 PM
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miningsweden.se

scam??   Huh Huh

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May 17, 2015, 12:49:58 AM
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miningsweden.se

scam??   Huh Huh


Evidently not from evidence I have seen. ROI on regular Mining Shares is about the same as Hashnest S5 while VIP shares is no worse than Genesis Mining. They just made a deal with Hydro66 to host their farm so they will have lowest power cost in Europe. That's good news for investors.

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May 17, 2015, 05:43:00 AM
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miningsweden.se

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Evidently not from evidence I have seen. ROI on regular Mining Shares is about the same as Hashnest S5 while VIP shares is no worse than Genesis Mining. They just made a deal with Hydro66 to host their farm so they will have lowest power cost in Europe. That's good news for investors.

Somebody wrote their biggest problem is buying retail miners and this is +1 from my side.
Also, VIP shares means nothing until people actually get info what does that VIP means. % of profits, how much?

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May 17, 2015, 09:56:13 AM
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miningsweden.se

scam??   Huh Huh


Definitely not, they are pretty transparent and have lots of pictures and info from their farm they are building up.

Here was a video from April for example
https://vimeo.com/125174209

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miningsweden.se

scam??   Huh Huh


Definitely not, they are pretty transparent and have lots of pictures and info from their farm they are building up.

Here was a video from April for example
https://vimeo.com/125174209


Video and pictures can be faked.
and they fit some of the requirements in the OP.
I'm not taking sides, but the crypto community definitely doesn't need another scam cloud mining company.

30 out of 38 active CMB (cloud mining businesses) are scams according to OP
31 if you count GAW
This turns out to be almost 80% scam.  Sad   much wow!!

Anyone care to rate miningsweden.se??
maybe add to OP.....


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May 17, 2015, 01:08:29 PM
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miningsweden.se

scam??   Huh Huh


Definitely not, they are pretty transparent and have lots of pictures and info from their farm they are building up.

Here was a video from April for example
https://vimeo.com/125174209


Video and pictures can be faked.
and they fit some of the requirements in the OP.
I'm not taking sides, but the crypto community definitely doesn't need another scam cloud mining company.

30 out of 38 active CMB (cloud mining businesses) are scams according to OP
31 if you count GAW
This turns out to be almost 80% scam.  Sad   much wow!!

Anyone care to rate miningsweden.se??
maybe add to OP.....



These guys are very open and transparent
https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37694/miningsweden-pictures-videos-and-banners

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Are you buying a share of the miners they have already? Or paying for the next set of miners they are going to buy? will the "team of highly experienced traders and will be performing market trades to boost profits for those who own “VIP shares (TM).”" run afoul of any securities laws? Why is the guy saying "they are" and "these guys" the same person providing all the "proof" that they are legit on hashtalk?

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Are you really linking to hashtalk ??   Huh?

GAW much??

Guess this answers the scam question.
Next cloud company please.

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Are you buying a share of the miners they have already? Or paying for the next set of miners they are going to buy? will the "team of highly experienced traders and will be performing market trades to boost profits for those who own “VIP shares (TM).”" run afoul of any securities laws? Why is the guy saying "they are" and "these guys" the same person providing all the "proof" that they are legit on hashtalk?

Yes...why???
Only posting on hashtalk.
Only 1 person saying "we"
Who is Tommy??
Who is the reseller Yangongear?? and why is he the only one selling these virtual shares??  (Couldn't anyone could be a reseller if they have a website??)
Why does he have all this "exclusive" information?? Shouldn't it be posted on the miningsweden website and not a reseller who links it to a forum that is a known scam??
WTF??

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The reseller thing is a good point. Why does someone need to resell shares/virtual miners?

It makes sense for a reseller for actual products. Manufacturer in location x doesn't want to deal with customs/hassle of shipping to a bunch of different customers, so they sell large shipments to a few resellers, and they distribute them to the individual customers. Why add a middleman when there is no physical product moving?

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May 17, 2015, 04:17:01 PM
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It is an incomplete list. It does not contain cloudmining.website, which is paying consistently for over six months now and publishing blockchain payment proof - www.cloudmining.website/payments.php

If you read the very first page of this thread cloudmining.website is listed as a probable ponzi. I maintain a list of proven legit services, and also steer readers away from the ponzis.

yet you mention Cloudminr.io?

Mentioning is no endorsement. From the article "We recommend you invest with caution in the riskier cloud mining services like Bitcoin Cloud Services and cloudminr.io if at all. Those providers neither provide photo evidence of a real mining operation or a public mining address. Any cloud mining investment carries some risk so do your homework before buying."

Also "If transparency and legitimacy are key you can purchase bitcoin cloud mining from Hashnest, GetHashing, ZeusHash, BW.com or Bit-X."

It's your money, invest as you please.

What a hypocrite !!! You are mentioning BitcoinCloudServices.com, CloudMinr.io, even a cnfirmed SCAM like Bit-X and you are omitting CloudMining.website & Scrypt.cc, who are paying for more than six months now, on the logic of being Ponzi ? Moreover, you are claiming that your list is the Full List ? Shocked

Bit-x s a confirmed scam? Confirmed where?

It was confirmed the day Bit-X failed to provide a mining address and hash power sold data in real time. That day it became clear that their contract with Bifury is just a vouch bought by bribing, like Hashie got a vouch from AsicMiner. Bit-X even failed to provide any payment proof. Moreover their contracts are unprofitable anyway. Cheesy
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It was confirmed the day Bit-X failed to provide a mining address and hash power sold data in real time.

True. BIT-X didn't provide mining address.

That day it became clear that their contract with Bifury is just a vouch bought by bribing, like Hashie got a vouch from AsicMiner.

Possible but I don't think BitFury will ruin their reputation over some money.

Bit-X even failed to provide any payment proof.

There is no need to provide payment proof. Everything is available in Bitcoin blockchain.

Moreover their contracts are unprofitable anyway. Cheesy

Not unprofitable but will take more time to reach ROI than it take when investing in a ponzi.

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