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February 06, 2015, 06:40:08 AM
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It's not clear what the price for 1Ghs? And what about 45% in a parameters of B1 mining contract?
Does somebody understand?  Grin

To check that I registered and clicked 'Deposit Immediately' assuming an amount will show but they are asking my phone number to verify, without it, I can't proceed. Worst thing is that their mobile verification supports only US, UK, China, Japan and Singapore but I am not from any of these. It would be good if any else can check this, especially if you are a chinese.

Edit: After a little investigation, I think I got it:

Quote from: B1-1
Just need to cast 1 coin and you can permanently access a suit of real Bitcoin printing press B1 ,As the past benefits of Bitcoin,only several months be needed to get back the cost,and benefits should only be stopped when less than 0.5yuan/kw.Program One, users and vendors each enjoy 45% of net income after deduction of electricity. 10% of net income users through creating new mining machine, mining machine new revenue still owned by the parties.Program Two, manufacturers get electricity after deducting 45% of net income, after deduction of electricity users to get 55% of net income. It was open and transparent and fair. Introduce friends to buy you can earn high recommendation rewards

Quote from: B9-1 & B9-2
Just need to cast 9 coins and you can permanently access a suit of real Bitcoin printing press B9 ,As the past benefits of Bitcoin,only several months be needed to get back the cost,and benefits should only be stopped when less than 0.5yuan/kw,we collect 15% of benefits exclude power charge for equipment maintaining and running,it was open and transparent and fair. Introduce friends to buy you can earn high recommendation rewards(details)。

B9=(Hashrate:9000G/S & consumption:8.3/KW.H & power rate:0.5yuan/KW.H)85%permanent net income
Datas mentioned above are theoretical,real edition should be takes while calculating. And BW.COM ensure that the data is in the deviation of 5%,and we will maintain the whole machine in the 3 months after you buy it.

Please avoid words like 'Bitcoin printing press' as this is translated words, it won't be accurate.

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February 08, 2015, 10:35:19 AM
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Cloudmining does has a very bad rep. That is why with my friends who ask me should they get into cloudmining I tell them hell no. Me personally I still bring in about $4k a month from cloudmining but this I know is something temp. I tell them buy the hardware yourself from a true business preferably a business you can go into and tell them what you want and need. I was trying to help people recover from cloudmining on this forum but everyone started bashing me because I would not just come out and say what it was. But maybe the will listen know. Since we have more and more people loosing the cloudmining fight.
Not true. There are reliable businesses with real hardware and reasonable maintenance costs. Apart form that difficulty is going ups and downs so you can make good margins on trading and mining at the same time. Real hardware and mining at home now really sucks as the electricity costs are now high.

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February 08, 2015, 11:31:40 AM
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Cloudmining does has a very bad rep. That is why with my friends who ask me should they get into cloudmining I tell them hell no. Me personally I still bring in about $4k a month from cloudmining but this I know is something temp. I tell them buy the hardware yourself from a true business preferably a business you can go into and tell them what you want and need. I was trying to help people recover from cloudmining on this forum but everyone started bashing me because I would not just come out and say what it was. But maybe the will listen know. Since we have more and more people loosing the cloudmining fight.
Not true. There are reliable businesses with real hardware and reasonable maintenance costs. Apart form that difficulty is going ups and downs so you can make good margins on trading and mining at the same time. Real hardware and mining at home now really sucks as the electricity costs are now high.

I would say that most businesses have real hardware and reasonable maintenane costs but even a real business with reasonable maintenance costs can fail or steal its clients.
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February 08, 2015, 01:13:25 PM
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A real business with real real mining hardware could eventually steal customer coins (but could also be held responsible)
A (n anonymous) ponzi operation can only eventually steal customer coins (and can probably not be held responsible).
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February 08, 2015, 01:36:50 PM
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Cloudmining does has a very bad rep. That is why with my friends who ask me should they get into cloudmining I tell them hell no. Me personally I still bring in about $4k a month from cloudmining but this I know is something temp. I tell them buy the hardware yourself from a true business preferably a business you can go into and tell them what you want and need. I was trying to help people recover from cloudmining on this forum but everyone started bashing me because I would not just come out and say what it was. But maybe the will listen know. Since we have more and more people loosing the cloudmining fight.
Not true. There are reliable businesses with real hardware and reasonable maintenance costs. Apart form that difficulty is going ups and downs so you can make good margins on trading and mining at the same time. Real hardware and mining at home now really sucks as the electricity costs are now high.

I would say that most businesses have real hardware and reasonable maintenane costs but even a real business with reasonable maintenance costs can fail or steal its clients.

Any business accepting clients' money can steal them. Just look on the banks Wink

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February 11, 2015, 01:34:22 AM
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:-)

Get a HUGE 3% discount with promo code: MOON @ Genesis Mining
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February 11, 2015, 05:29:42 PM
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What Anybody Know Site to cloud mining LTC or DOGE but not SCAM or PONZI??

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February 11, 2015, 05:38:04 PM
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Cloudmining does has a very bad rep. That is why with my friends who ask me should they get into cloudmining I tell them hell no. Me personally I still bring in about $4k a month from cloudmining but this I know is something temp. I tell them buy the hardware yourself from a true business preferably a business you can go into and tell them what you want and need. I was trying to help people recover from cloudmining on this forum but everyone started bashing me because I would not just come out and say what it was. But maybe the will listen know. Since we have more and more people loosing the cloudmining fight.
Not true. There are reliable businesses with real hardware and reasonable maintenance costs. Apart form that difficulty is going ups and downs so you can make good margins on trading and mining at the same time. Real hardware and mining at home now really sucks as the electricity costs are now high.

I would say that most businesses have real hardware and reasonable maintenane costs but even a real business with reasonable maintenance costs can fail or steal its clients.

Any business accepting clients' money can steal them. Just look on the banks Wink

But that´s ...///drumbeat///... legal scamming. You know, like when the government has a monopoly on the use of violence. Which it decreed on itself of course while it legalized sundry scams. Scamsters often require quite violent protection that goes without saying.

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February 12, 2015, 02:46:19 PM
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Good afternoon guys.
with so many sites to sell bitcoin machines.
which reliable?
those that we pay, and we are not deceived.
I leave here some sites where they sell machines.
who know who are reliable.

http://asicminer-shop.de/Home

http://hashra.com/

http://www.gawminers.com/

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/

http://www.antminerdistribution.com/

http://buy-antminer.com/

https://www.protact.net

https://www.achilleslabs.com/shop/

https://www.hashcoins.com/

https://www.minerslab.com/     99% fraud

https://bitmaintech.com/product.htm

https://emic.com.pl/en/      99% fraud

http://holybitcoin.com/

http://www.xbtec.io/

http://www.visionman.com/product_info_2.php?products_id=9310

http://bitmine.ch/product/coincraft-desk-gen2/

http://technobit.eu/index.php

http://www.bithashminer.com/
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February 12, 2015, 03:28:07 PM
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check out these 2 guides:

Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=456691.0

and

Bicknellski's Moderated Biased & Opinionated Miner Sellers Trustworthiness Guide
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=799423


Personally, I buy from Bitmain. I hear Spoondoolies is very good to deal with too.
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February 13, 2015, 02:02:42 AM
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Don't buy anything from GAW miners, unless you want to support a scam operation. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.0


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February 13, 2015, 06:06:46 AM
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Don't buy anything from GAW miners, unless you want to support a scam operation. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.0

They shutdown it recently. Did they start cloud mining again?

   -MZ

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February 13, 2015, 08:20:49 AM
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Excellent work, most of these sites are indeed scams.

Keep it up.

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February 13, 2015, 07:55:12 PM
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Looks like bitcloudmine.com is the newest ponzi scam.

Buy & Hold
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February 13, 2015, 08:14:37 PM
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Don't buy anything from GAW miners, unless you want to support a scam operation. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.0

They shutdown it recently. Did they start cloud mining again?

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No they're not cloud mining. I've read that they're selling off the 5 PHS of Bitmain S4 miners they bought for this. The company line is that the maintenance fees they collected did not cover the cost for cloud mining. Others say that there's SEC concern about them mining now that they're running PayBase, Paycoin and an Exchange. GAW is trying to be the first company doing things by the book so that they can release the PayBase features when they get the legal green light. Once they set the example of meeting legal requirements in what they are doing behind the scenes now, others will be examined by the governments and have to meet the same requirements too. It will be interesting to see how Crypto 2.0 unfolds in 2015.
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February 14, 2015, 11:53:29 AM
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No they're not cloud mining. I've read that they're selling off the 5 PHS of Bitmain S4 miners they bought for this. The company line is that the maintenance fees they collected did not cover the cost for cloud mining. Others say that there's SEC concern about them mining now that they're running PayBase, Paycoin and an Exchange. GAW is trying to be the first company doing things by the book so that they can release the PayBase features when they get the legal green light. Once they set the example of meeting legal requirements in what they are doing behind the scenes now, others will be examined by the governments and have to meet the same requirements too. It will be interesting to see how Crypto 2.0 unfolds in 2015.

I also got the email. But... I think THs-they-were-selling isn't equal to THs-they-have.

   -MZ

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February 15, 2015, 03:15:28 AM
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Love this damn post! Keep the list going!

Next up one on the odds for the casino sites?  Shocked

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February 15, 2015, 06:27:57 AM
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Love this damn post! Keep the list going!

Next up one on the odds for the casino sites?  Shocked

IIRC There is one already made by DiamondCardz.

   -MZ

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February 15, 2015, 06:23:26 PM
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Love this damn post! Keep the list going!

Next up one on the odds for the casino sites?  Shocked

IIRC There is one already made by DiamondCardz.

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February 15, 2015, 10:31:58 PM
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spondoolies-tech.com makes very good miners, they are reliable, I have bought some and I am very satisfied
technobit.eu makes cheap, noisy, energetic non efficient miners, I have bought there, I was satisfied for a while
bitmaintech.com makes good, efficient, cheap miners, I have bought there, I am satisfied
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