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[BTCdoaA]

no idea as to whether your coins are still valid,
i know not whether there have been any blockchain shenanigans to disrupt them.

but yobit is an exchange for FIND.

have a look on http://findcoin.dcredits.com/index.php
to see what it reports for your address

.edit
also see this post with a copy of the chain
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905226.msg13676416#msg13676416

Thank you for reply . i download all contents of the blockchain , the wallet is fully synchronized
But i got wrong date and unconfirmed FIND
FjSY1eeCj96thdWao3q3otMMi7UzDe5NvQ

I lost 19000 FIND
Any solution
thanks

[BTCdoaA]

no idea as to whether your coins are still valid,
i know not whether there have been any blockchain shenanigans to disrupt them.

but yobit is an exchange for FIND.

have a look on http://findcoin.dcredits.com/index.php
to see what it reports for your address

.edit
also see this post with a copy of the chain
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905226.msg13676416#msg13676416

Thank you for reply . i download all contents of the blockchain , the wallet is fully synchronized
But i got wrong date and unconfirmed FIND
FjSY1eeCj96thdWao3q3otMMi7UzDe5NvQ

I lost 19000 FIND
Any solution
thanks

This is the last transaction
Status: conflicted
Date: 12/2/2014 10:26
From: unknown
To: FjSY1eeCj96thdWao3q3otMMi7UzDe5NvQ (own address, label:)
Credit: 19000.00 FIND
Net amount: +19000.00 FIND
Transaction ID: e160b050b9891eac743b6c105ff1e81637626dfd33b732ce65abdc155882207a

[BanzaiBTC]

and they trust the block explorer he runs on his own website.

Wrong... Its my explorer.. Intristin pays me for setting up an explorer for his burn targets... The fact its showing his url, is not saying it is hosted on his servers. The daemon and database or not on his server, but my own. Therefore he is unable to even touch the "heart of the engine".. So no reason not to trust my explorer... The one you can't trust right now is the multifaucet explorer.. It needs a proper resync of the deamon and a re-index of the entire database.. This is common sense with such a terrible state blockchain...


And correct, this explorer has served its purpose and will go offline anytime now..

I wonder though.. Why are you so obsessed with Intristin's project? You talk more about DigitalCredits then your own coin man.. Just sayin...
You and him should just bury the fights and focus on your own projects..  This is beyond trolling each other...

[BARR_Official]

This is the FindCoin thread, please don't try to make it about another project you work for

[bumbacoin]

what seems to be the case.
intrinsin doesnt handle the swap, nor the funds, so he has nothing to do with it other than reporting figures from the exchange.

He tests the burn address from his own wallet rather than the exchange doing it, they take his word, he tells them when to burn the coins (instead of burning them as they come in), he tells them when to extend the exchange period because he bought more coins.

And he still holds 194 million coins from the premine.  
So he does handle the funds.

he doesnt handle the actual swap funds. only the premine.
the exchange handles the swap and burn. apparently to the parameters he defines.

the important part is, he didnt burn the coins. the exchange did.

digital credits dev doesn't handle any of the swap, it's all done by the exchange.
anything he might have reported is NOT from his own figures/calculations.

I've just shown mathematically that it IS from his own incorrect calculations, and different from what the exchange reported.  Since he refuses to clarify, where are you getting your information?

no you havent. you've just shown how the figures can add up.
- Did Intrinsin report the numbers? yes.
- Do the numbers match your mathematical calculations? yes.
- Does this mean that Intrinsin is personally responsible for the incorrect calculations?  no.

if you'd read all the previous posts (from those whom you're attacking) with emotional clarity you might have realised this yourself quite some time ago,
as is usually the way when two parties have serious problems in communications, previous assumptions brought to the discussion floor skew other's comments, (emotional involvement further skews perspective, and this "discussion" is totally warped with personal attacks).
so it seems that no-one actually specifically mentioned this because it seems obvious to them, so they were operating under the assumption it should be obvious to you,
BUT you were operating under a different set of assumptions that included much more personal involvement from Intrinsin, therefore you were never able to understand what was obvious to them.

here seems to be the gist ----
Intrinsin tells btcpool what to do, and sends them Digital Credits,
btcpool does everything and tells Intrinsin what happened,
Intrinsin shares this information, but presumably because the block chain fucked up, there are inconsistencies.
Then because you've been trolling so hard with serious emotional bullshit, no-one is telling you exactly what you want to hear and the figures have not been officially reported any differently,
the burn address IS the proof of burn and hence has the correct figure but you are too busy having a great time you continue to push people and act like an ignorant twat.

Barr_official has managed to alienate pretty much anyone who cares with his behaviour.
i assume anyone who cares enough is ignoring him and taking his posts as generally full of crap.

You left out the relevant fact that I banned you from our ANN for trolling.
So you don't really assume that everyone ignores me, since you yourself couldn’t stop responding to my every post until you were forcibly prevented from it.

And now you're suddenly interested in FindCoin, coincidentally giving you more chances to not ignore me.

bwahahaha, I LOVE YOU !!! MARRY ME AND WE'LL HAVE A FAMILY OF LITTLE TROLLS !!!
you banned me because you had difficulties accepting what i was saying, similar pattern to this discussion.


and i was further wrong, banzai is still replying too

I wonder though.. Why are you so obsessed with Intristin's project? You talk more about DigitalCredits then your own coin man.. Just sayin...
You and him should just bury the fights and focus on your own projects..   This is beyond trolling each other...

You do seem un-healthily obsessed :/
I imagine you'll be continuing the feud with further made up stories and undeserved personal attacks until you die .. telling your Grandchildren about the great shit coin swap feud of 2016 ..

[BTCdoaA]

no idea as to whether your coins are still valid,
i know not whether there have been any blockchain shenanigans to disrupt them.

but yobit is an exchange for FIND.

have a look on http://findcoin.dcredits.com/index.php
to see what it reports for your address

.edit
also see this post with a copy of the chain
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905226.msg13676416#msg13676416

Thank you for reply . i download all contents of the blockchain , the wallet is fully synchronized
But i got wrong date and unconfirmed FIND
FjSY1eeCj96thdWao3q3otMMi7UzDe5NvQ

I lost 19000 FIND
Any solution
thanks

This is the last transaction
Status: conflicted
Date: 12/2/2014 10:26
From: unknown
To: FjSY1eeCj96thdWao3q3otMMi7UzDe5NvQ (own address, label:)
Credit: 19000.00 FIND
Net amount: +19000.00 FIND
Transaction ID: e160b050b9891eac743b6c105ff1e81637626dfd33b732ce65abdc155882207a

is those coin lost
it seems no one willing to answer
thanks

[BARR_Official]

You do seem un-healthily obsessed :/
I imagine you'll be continuing the feud with further made up stories and undeserved personal attacks until you die .. telling your Grandchildren about the great shit coin swap feud of 2016 ..

Are you talking to yourself?

I'm here to talk about FindCoins.  You're here to talk about me, and you're following me around to 4 other topics as well as starting new topics about me.

[bumbacoin]

You do seem un-healthily obsessed :/
I imagine you'll be continuing the feud with further made up stories and undeserved personal attacks until you die .. telling your Grandchildren about the great shit coin swap feud of 2016 ..

Are you talking to yourself?

I'm here to talk about FindCoins.  You're here to talk about me, and you're following me around to 4 other topics as well as starting new topics about me.

lol. out of a great long post about Find coin, you cherry pick one paragraph. good job.
although here in this thread, talking about you is talking about findcoins.

do you ever wonder why troll so hard?

do you even notice that you totally gloss over that you were obsessing and indulging in personal attacks over what seemed so important 4 posts ago because the answer is so obvious?

If you're really here to talk about Find coins, then come along.. talk about Find coins please.

[BARR_Official]

The January Burn has ended. 449,479 FIND coins have been burned and 112,369 new Digital Credits have been released into the world.

Where is the slightest bit of evidence that 449,479 FIND were burned?

BTCPoolExchange says they only burned 324,689.4, and intristin says burns don't count unless they go through BTCPoolExchange.

Of course he burned 100 FIND from his own address and is including those in the total even though they didn't go through BTCPoolExchange, but where are the other 124,689.8?

He's claiming to use Proof of Burn, and all I'm asking is for the Proof.  It should be easy to answer.

[bumbacoin]

The January Burn has ended. 449,479 FIND coins have been burned and 112,369 new Digital Credits have been released into the world.

Where is the slightest bit of evidence that 449,479 FIND were burned?

BTCPoolExchange says they only burned 324,689.4, and intristin says burns don't count unless they go through BTCPoolExchange.

Of course he burned 100 FIND from his own address and is including those in the total even though they didn't go through BTCPoolExchange, but where are the other 124,689.8?

He's claiming to use Proof of Burn, and all I'm asking is for the Proof.  It should be easy to answer.

this has been discussed above,
please rephrase your question and use prior information that you are aware of.

ie stop trolling the same ignorant question when there is obvious information in the thread you're deliberately ignoring.

[BARR_Official]

The January Burn has ended. 449,479 FIND coins have been burned and 112,369 new Digital Credits have been released into the world.

Where is the slightest bit of evidence that 449,479 FIND were burned?

BTCPoolExchange says they only burned 324,689.4, and intristin says burns don't count unless they go through BTCPoolExchange.

Of course he burned 100 FIND from his own address and is including those in the total even though they didn't go through BTCPoolExchange, but where are the other 124,689.8?

He's claiming to use Proof of Burn, and all I'm asking is for the Proof.  It should be easy to answer.

this has been discussed above,
please rephrase your question and use prior information that you are aware of.

ie stop trolling the same ignorant question when there is obvious information in the thread you're deliberately ignoring.

I'm honestly not seeing the answer anywhere.

I went back to the last page, hit ctrl+F, and typed 449.

Nobody ever showed that 449,479 were burned. 
The exchange says they burned 324,689.4, one block explorer said 324,789.4, the other block explorer said 124,789.8.
Only intristin said 449,479, but he hasn't shown where that figure came from.
I offered an explanation, but you said "anything he might have reported is NOT from his own figures/calculations."

Is that the information you meant?  When I asked where the claimed total number of burned coins came from, and you said "not from intristin"?

Is that the definition of Proof of Burn?  When someone says they've proven to have burned coins, and you ask where the proof is, and they say "how should I know?"

[bumbacoin]

you know that the real burn amount was the amount on the explorer, and that the figure you continute to quote is an old incorrect value.
you know that the questions you keep asking are also pure troll and not relevant.

if you dont' bother moving on with more recent information no-one is going to answer your repetitive trolling.

[BARR_Official]

you know that the real burn amount was the amount on the explorer, and that the figure you continute to quote is an old incorrect value.

I know it's incorrect, I'm the only one who pointed out that it was incorrect.

But it's not "an old incorrect value" because it was never correct at any time and never claimed by anyone other than intristin.

And it's not old at all because it's still the amount intristin is claiming to have burned.

If you click where I quoted him, you can see that it's still the official figure used in the DGCS ANN, not only there but also in Page 1 of the ANN, as well as http://dcredits.com/pob/


And if you click this quote, you can see that he originally claimed "714,348 FIND coins have been burned and 178,587 new Digital Credits have been released into the world."

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1254272.msg13731594#msg13731594




No block explorer has ever shown 714,348, no block explorer has ever shown 449,479, and the exchange has never claimed either of those figures.

So yes, I know intristin's claims are false, as you say.  The question is where he got the figures, why he has never yet given any actual accurate figures, and whether that amount of DGCS was actually released, as he claims, in exchange for coins that we know were not burned.

So, for FindCoin holders, and for people who burned their FindCoins for DGCS, I think it's relevant to know that the current official DGCS claims are not accurate.

[bumbacoin]

i was impressed in the other thread how you manage to actually have a serious conversation with only minor levels of troll,
in light of this, i will tell you one last time what seems patently obvious.

1. intrinsin reported figures given to him from btcpool
2. the blockchain was fucked up, and quite plausibly this has something to do with btcpools misreporting of figures.
 - although tbh i would assume thad their record keeping should be better than that, but i have no idea of how they got that figure.
3. the figures are obviously wrong and no-one cares to communicate with you.
4. yes intrinsin should update the figures.

at this point it's number 3. that you should look at closely
how long have you been a dev? and how many "fights" have you gotten into?

neither btcpool nor intrinsin cares to communicate with you. you. you. you.
you can troll the same question again and again and it won't make them more likely to care.

i know intrinsin had his moment of being a dick too, but you're much better at it and he gave up first. lol

if you really want answers you'd probably have more luck asking without being such a troll.



edit.
well done for pointing it out in the first place,
i hope you're giving me full credit for pointing out how your ANN and site were not up to date .. have you fixed them yet?

edit edit.
well you've updated to a point, but not fully. i hope you don't expect me to keep nagging you do you?

[BARR_Official]

1. intrinsin reported figures given to him from btcpool

No, he didn't.  You keep saying that, so you must believe it.  But you haven't explained why you believe that.

Were you on a conference call with intristin and BTCPool when they gave him those figures?  
What about the 700,000, did they tell him that?  And then they called both of you back and reported 449,000?

BTCPool reported 324,689.4 on this thread, and they have never reported a different figure:

DGCSBurn   FindCoin   99999.8   a86a6983ada8afa364d1a054a235bef4efd4b8530e52069a853e17bf26d281eb   2016-01-30 03:24:21.880   FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn
DGCSBurn   FindCoin   99999.8   daccba3587afecb7b1c6bf4f327a5522ec57847ff42b2f0e715792c9769229cc   2016-01-30 03:25:11.893   FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn
DGCSBurn   FindCoin   124689.8   pending...   2016-01-30 03:26:11.890   FVCryptoLifeDotNetBurnAddrXXcBdXmn

I have repeatedly quoted their figures, and I have repeatedly explained it to you.

You keep saying they reported something different, and that the problem is me, but you are mistaken.

It is very simple, and very clear.  It has nothing to do with the blockchain.

how long have you been a dev? and how many "fights" have you gotten into?

Well the BanxShares people have been threatening me since before BARR existed.

Apparently people don't like it when someone points out discrepancies in their handling of publicly traded funds.

They tried to intimidate me, dox me, badger me, and smear me.  Just like intristin.  

But shutting up about the truth when someone threatens you is called "dealing with terrorists", and it's a policy that allows the worst people to win.

well done for pointing it out in the first place,
i hope you're giving me full credit for pointing out how your ANN and site were not up to date .. have you fixed them yet?

edit edit.
well you've updated to a point, but not fully. i hope you don't expect me to keep nagging you do you?

Our ANN never had made-up figures in the first place.  We always have proof of what we claim.

You pointed out that our figures weren't current on a certain part of the internet.
But they were correct when they were posted, and they were always available in real-time.
And when you pointed out somewhere that it needed to be updated, we updated it.

On the other hand, what happened when it was pointed out that intristin's figures weren't correct, were never correct, and could never have possibly been correct?
He ignored it, didn't change anything, and actually deleted any mention of the correct information from his ANN.

Thank you for pointing out the glaring difference in how an honest project operates.

[bumbacoin]

1. intrinsin reported figures given to him from btcpool

No, he didn't.  You keep saying that, so you must believe it.  But you haven't explained why you believe that.

perhaps you can explain first why you believe he didn't?
please prove where these figures came from.
you can go first seeing as how you've been making this claim for the longest, then i will

I have repeatedly quoted their figures, and I have repeatedly explained it to you.

You keep saying they reported something different, and that the problem is me, but you are mistaken.

It is very simple, and very clear.  It has nothing to do with the blockchain.

have a look at the blockchain now, tkexplorer (or whatever it's called) is back to a different figure again.

the problem is you,
because you never appreciated anything else they have said (being fixated on your own belief)
and you have alienated them to the extent they don't give a fig what you keep saying,

so it's just down to us trolls now.
no-one else seems to care

how long have you been a dev? and how many "fights" have you gotten into?

But shutting up about the truth when someone threatens you is called "dealing with terrorists", and it's a policy that allows the worst people to win.

as opposed to apologising and admitting mistakes. lol
you've insinuated mad integrity issues against me. what happened to those? because i can take those as threats i am obviously required to continue this discussion because otherwise according to some made up theories of online discussions, you're a terrorist and cannot be allowed to win.

well done for pointing it out in the first place,
i hope you're giving me full credit for pointing out how your ANN and site were not up to date .. have you fixed them yet?

please. i mentioned that your ann and website are not up to date some time ago.
you havent' updated them.
thank you.

[BARR_Official]

please prove where these figures came from.

From the owner of BTCPoolExchange, which I just quoted again in my last post.

I won't quote him again, since you're either a troll or you can't read.

and you have alienated them to the extent they don't give a fig what you keep saying

They obviously do, since the owner of BTCPoolExchange replied to me, and then said he would solve the problems,
and then the guy who runs the block explorer replied to me, and he re-synced the block explorer because of what I was saying.

But you've already seen all of that, so you're either a troll or you can't read.

you've insinuated mad integrity issues against me.

Did I show up in your ANN to do that, or was it only in direct response to your posts in which you showed that you're either a troll or you can't read?

please. i mentioned that your ann and website are not up to date some time ago.
you havent' updated them.

That's a lie.  Are you lying on purpose, or only out of ignorance?

In other words, you're either a troll or you can't read.

[bumbacoin]

1. intrinsin reported figures given to him from btcpool

No, he didn't.  You keep saying that, so you must believe it.  But you haven't explained why you believe that.

perhaps you can explain first why you believe he didn't?
please prove where these figures came from.

please prove where these figures came from.

From the owner of BTCPoolExchange, which I just quoted again in my last post.

I won't quote him again, since you're either a troll or you can't read.

..

you fucking what?
can you explain how you deny it in the first quote,
then present it as previous evidence in the second?


edit
hmm. i'm hoping you were just confused by my question. gosh i'm hope i'm not being too forgiving here, everytime i look at those two above quotes juxtaposed my mind collapses.
 - IS THIS ALL A TRICK ? ARE YOU PLAYING MIND GAMES WITH ME !!?!?!?!?

another alternative is that you cherrypicked that implied question for some strange personally subjective reason because it fit your narrative of this ongoing discussion.

to be more clear

Where did Intrinsin get these figures from if not btcpool?

[bumbacoin]

and you have alienated them to the extent they don't give a fig what you keep saying

They obviously do, since the owner of BTCPoolExchange replied to me, and then said he would solve the problems,
and then the guy who runs the block explorer replied to me, and he re-synced the block explorer because of what I was saying.

But you've already seen all of that, so you're either a troll or you can't read.

hmm. and since then? even intrinsin replied to you before he gave up.
i dont see anyone else giving a rat's arse what happens here.

you've insinuated mad integrity issues against me.

Did I show up in your ANN to do that, or was it only in direct response to your posts in which you showed that you're either a troll or you can't read?

lol.
he made me do it!! he was on MY thread!!
good work.

and there you go again impugning my good person. shame on you.
my posts were neither troll nor showed evidence that i could not read. such a false dichotomy.

please. i mentioned that your ann and website are not up to date some time ago.
you havent' updated them.

That's a lie.  Are you lying on purpose, or only out of ignorance?

In other words, you're either a troll or you can't read.

it's not a lie. neither are fully up to date with your swap process, or at least they were not when i posted that previously, you could have updated them since that post.. idk

but if you havent, please up date them.

edit. ok, you havent updated your ANN, which means you are obviously calling me a liar for something that is true? what does that make you?

edit. don't ever tell me i don't do anything for you. from yr ANN, you can work out yr own website. there's proably more on your ANN as well, but this is the simple obvious after spending 1 minute looking at it.

Burn Period #2-B, January 1 to January 30, 2016:

 - - To Be Decided

————————————————————————

you could also update the list in post #4 too.

[BARR_Official]

BTCPoolExchange reported 324,689.

intristin reported 714,348, and then he reported 449,479, and that is still what he's reporting.

I have included multiple links, multiple times, to prove all these statements. 

You have ignored the facts and you continue to talk nonsense.


You posted a figure from our ANN on February 4th, and then you came here today to say it hasn't been updated.
But the current figure is different from what you quoted on February 4th.
That proves that it has been updated.
It also proves that your statement was not only false, but easily verifiable as false to anyone who was trying to be honest.

in the OP
BARR – 230,356 coins burned out of 780,856 in circulation  = 29% (self-burned BARR, sent back to the burnfund)

And it was never a relevant point anyway, because the figures were always up-to-date where people could find them through links in the same ANN.
It also had nothing to do with intristin's false figures that were not out-of-date, but simply fake figures that were never accurate at any time.