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Author Topic: [AMBER] X13 POW/POS| 10k AMBER=0,01% SHARES | BUY, HOLD & GET DIVIDENDS in BTC/$  (Read 407536 times)
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July 15, 2016, 12:11:00 AM
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let's just wait if they will really pay us or just making another excuse.

Volume is picking up. Not sure if it is the company finally arranging for a floor and initiate a buy back or some else.
Happy to see upwards movement... finally

if amber price is picking up because company, for what company does it? I'm not really understood

To buy back it's shares much cheaper, than they sold them before.
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July 15, 2016, 12:18:52 AM
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This is pure speculation but we know that the company was considering an IPO.
For that it might be smart to stop using crypto shares (amber coin) so you dont have two competing shares.
It would then make sense for the company to buy up as many amber coins as possible from the market below a certain price.

We also know that they will announce their new business plan around same time as the dividends are paid. That plan could contain a buyout of the remaining amber coins. Most likely running till the end of the year with the IPO comming in the beginning of the next.

A buyout would most likely be priced according the actual value of the company, which is being determined by the audit that started just after the takeover. The buyback price of the amber based on actual company value would likely be a lot closer to the 30k sat that Amber trade sold them for than the 1500 sat that they are going for now.

That way the company could save a lot of money buying amber coins before the announcement.
It would be one way of explaning the increased buy support.


Of course it might just be people trying to make a quick buck banking on the company actually paying dividends, but that theory is much less interesting.

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July 15, 2016, 07:42:04 AM
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I am sure company is not buying AMBER back without prior announcement. Company spokesman Dev clearly stated - first buyback announcement, then buyback. Everything is in blockchain and everyone can see.
EDIT: "- first buyback announcement" - inserted word "buyback"
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July 15, 2016, 09:20:37 AM
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I am sure company is not buying AMBER back without prior announcement. Company spokesman Dev clearly stated - first buyback announcement, then buyback. Everything is in blockchain and everyone can see.
EDIT: "- first buyback announcement" - inserted word "buyback"

agreed with you. I ever looking an announcement that said they are never buy ambercoin in exchanger, but just will sell the stock of ambercoin whose they have.

and this is stock of ambercoin in Amber Company


you can looking in first page.  so I'm not sure if the Ambercoindev act as buyer in exchanger
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July 15, 2016, 09:30:42 PM
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I am sure company is not buying AMBER back without prior announcement. Company spokesman Dev clearly stated - first buyback announcement, then buyback. Everything is in blockchain and everyone can see.
EDIT: "- first buyback announcement" - inserted word "buyback"

agreed with you. I ever looking an announcement that said they are never buy ambercoin in exchanger, but just will sell the stock of ambercoin whose they have.

and this is stock of ambercoin in Amber Company


you can looking in first page.  so I'm not sure if the Ambercoindev act as buyer in exchanger

There is no way to check who is buying what on the exchange.

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July 16, 2016, 09:30:21 AM
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Only a few more days until we know what/if they will pay in dividends.
So just for fun.

What is your guess on the dividends payed out for 10k amber?

I am hoping for around 25$

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July 16, 2016, 10:39:06 AM
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Only a few more days until we know what/if they will pay in dividends.
So just for fun.

What is your guess on the dividends payed out for 10k amber?

I am hoping for around 25$
I am hoping for around 52$

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July 16, 2016, 06:33:53 PM
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Only a few more days until we know what/if they will pay in dividends.
So just for fun.

What is your guess on the dividends payed out for 10k amber?

I am hoping for around 25$
I am hoping for around 52$

may i hope around 252$ ?
they claimed that the first year was a successful year for them
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July 16, 2016, 08:19:27 PM
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Back in 2015 level was ~$70 per quarter/10k amber!
Dont push expectations low!

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July 16, 2016, 08:37:22 PM
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Only a few more days until we know what/if they will pay in dividends.
So just for fun.

What is your guess on the dividends payed out for 10k amber?

I am hoping for around 25$
I am hoping for around 52$

may i hope around 252$ ?
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July 16, 2016, 09:07:35 PM
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Back in 2015 level was ~$70 per quarter/10k amber!
Dont push expectations low!
Considering amber sold for 1000 sat not very long ago. 25$ per quarter for 0.1 BTC is still a pretty good deal. 70$ would be an amazing investment.
But of course I think we all hope for a high payout.

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July 17, 2016, 07:43:49 AM
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Back in 2015 level was ~$70 per quarter/10k amber!
Dont push expectations low!
Considering amber sold for 1000 sat not very long ago. 25$ per quarter for 0.1 BTC is still a pretty good deal. 70$ would be an amazing investment.
But of course I think we all hope for a high payout.

The company didn't sell at that price that where Investors taking a Huge loss on their investment.

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July 17, 2016, 01:05:23 PM
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I think there will be an announcement, that company has invested a lot of money during Q1&Q2 2016 - in order to make higher profits in future, of course Smiley Thats why the profit is 0+ but will be huge in future Wink
3 days and everything will be known.
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July 18, 2016, 09:35:09 AM
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Only a few more days until we know what/if they will pay in dividends.
So just for fun.

What is your guess on the dividends payed out for 10k amber?

I am hoping for around 25$

are you sure dividends will be paid. your sentences is not indicate that you sure dividends will be paid in here.
sorry, just kidding  Cheesy Grin

I am wait announcement also from dev. dev said dividends announcement will given in ends of July
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July 18, 2016, 09:54:57 AM
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Only a few more days until we know what/if they will pay in dividends.
So just for fun.

What is your guess on the dividends payed out for 10k amber?

I am hoping for around 25$

are you sure dividends will be paid. your sentences is not indicate that you sure dividends will be paid in here.
sorry, just kidding  Cheesy Grin

I am wait announcement also from dev. dev said dividends announcement will given in ends of July
No there is no way to be sure and they dont have the best track record but I believe the dividends will be paid this time.

I a bit of experience in working with the management of different companies, and with the previous management there were several red flags.
We havent heard a whole lot from the new management but the few things we have heard sounds pretty sensible.

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July 18, 2016, 07:06:26 PM
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Only a few more days until we know what/if they will pay in dividends.
So just for fun.

What is your guess on the dividends payed out for 10k amber?

I am hoping for around 25$

are you sure dividends will be paid. your sentences is not indicate that you sure dividends will be paid in here.
sorry, just kidding  Cheesy Grin

I am wait announcement also from dev. dev said dividends announcement will given in ends of July
No there is no way to be sure and they dont have the best track record but I believe the dividends will be paid this time.

I a bit of experience in working with the management of different companies, and with the previous management there were several red flags.
We havent heard a whole lot from the new management but the few things we have heard sounds pretty sensible.

what is a sounds pretty sensible ?
I just curious. honestly I am not have an experience like you, so I am not have a many knowledge about management handling on company's because  I am never yet work as staff or official worker in company.
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July 18, 2016, 07:19:47 PM
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Where does it trade?
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July 18, 2016, 08:11:58 PM
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what is a sounds pretty sensible ?
I just curious. honestly I am not have an experience like you, so I am not have a many knowledge about management handling on company's because  I am never yet work as staff or official worker in company.
As said we have very little to go on. Basicly only three small posts so take things with a grain of salt.

The first one was about the takeover.
http://amber-trade.com/2016/05/24/the-new-owher-of-majority-stake-51/
Important parts here as I see it. They are not rushing things. They are doing the auidt and then the business plan and then you can start to make changes to the company.
If you dont have a solid plan in place you will quickly start to waste money right and left.
Also note the mention of prepearing for an IPO. That could be very interesting for people who bought at exchange price.

Post two is the suspension of share sales.
http://amber-trade.com/2016/05/27/sales-of-shares-will-be-temporarily-suspended/
This could be related to the IPO but most likely its done to limit the amount of angry investors. Imagine buying amber from the company at 30k sat only to find them on the exchange at 1.5k.
So the new management cares about the company image, which they have to to get a successful IPO, but again its good for the investors.

The last post is the part on dividends.
http://amber-trade.com/2016/06/06/dividends-payouts/
The most important part here is that they give fixed dates for publishing and paying dividends. The reason this is important is that by giving fixed dates the company can be held accountable (not legally) and missing the deadlines would start a new shitstorm, dumping the value even futher.
The part about them taking payments of dividends very seroiusly isnt that big of a deal as its just words without actions. But studies have shown that companies not paying their bills on time usually also have lower profits.
As for Q1 dividens I do see it as pretty reasonable to postpone as the takeover was in the end of may and the audit was most likely running.


Overall it looks like they are trying to do things the right way. Whether or not they will succeed only time will tell.

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July 18, 2016, 08:14:40 PM
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Where does it trade?
https://c-cex.com/
https://bleutrade.com/exchange/AMBER/BTC
https://yobit.net/en/trade/AMBER/BTC
That I remember. There might be more.

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July 19, 2016, 08:42:25 PM
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Have anyone got any actual payout from them?

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