ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[dhenson]

P.S. With apologies to "dhenson" -- trust me, if ASICMINER makes a roaring comeback, I'll be more upset about this than you

Hah, no worries, I just hope this ends up being sufficient.

edit... However, based on the dividend history (https://blockchain.info/address/1PYMwZt98TfTj8hWYKaEHUmubALqPC1Kgq) and the 11/24 dividend amount of 0.0000543/share, you had 650 shares, not 450.

[chriswilmer]

P.S. With apologies to "dhenson" -- trust me, if ASICMINER makes a roaring comeback, I'll be more upset about this than you

Hah, no worries, I just hope this ends up being sufficient.

edit... However, based on the dividend history (https://blockchain.info/address/1PYMwZt98TfTj8hWYKaEHUmubALqPC1Kgq) and the 11/24 dividend amount of 0.0000543/share, you had 650 shares, not 450.

Keen observation!

So, friedcat was still responsive for a few months after 11/24, and in that time he transferred 200 of my shares to Havelock (which, incredibly, could be sold instead of abandoned). Anyway, the dividend history is slightly out of date.

*sigh* Most of my investments in this space actually worked out really well... this one did not... a lesson learned!

[shmoula]

Looks like "to miss" people in China is daily routine. Maybe new supplies for labour camps?

Reports in the Chinese media suspect Zhou was picked up by the police, some asserting the reason is his association with fund manager Xu Xiang, who was arrested in November for insider trading.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/janeho/2016/01/08/chinese-fashion-retailer-metersbonwes-billionaire-chairman-zhou-chengjian-goes-missing/

[Temo58]

Hope these guys will suprise us with something that NO ONE in the market did untul now !!
To create a real mining rig that can beat the difficulty and make real ROI !!

[SebastianJu]

Hope these guys will suprise us with something that NO ONE in the market did untul now !!
To create a real mining rig that can beat the difficulty and make real ROI !!

In no way there is still a working company alive. They are dead in so many ways. Your hope is hopeless for sure.

I wonder what the police would find out when they investigate all the people that were near friedcat. Someone has to know something i think.

[irritant]

Hope these guys will suprise us with something that NO ONE in the market did untul now !!
To create a real mining rig that can beat the difficulty and make real ROI !!

In no way there is still a working company alive. They are dead in so many ways. Your hope is hopeless for sure.

I wonder what the police would find out when they investigate all the people that were near friedcat. Someone has to know something i think.

will they still be able to find anything if the evidence is completely fried?

[OgNasty]

Hope these guys will suprise us with something that NO ONE in the market did untul now !!
To create a real mining rig that can beat the difficulty and make real ROI !!

In no way there is still a working company alive. They are dead in so many ways. Your hope is hopeless for sure.

I wonder what the police would find out when they investigate all the people that were near friedcat. Someone has to know something i think.

will they still be able to find anything if the evidence is completely fried?

Difficult to say.  We'll have to wait and see what the cat drags in.

[xhomerx10]

Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea.

[SebastianJu]

Hope these guys will suprise us with something that NO ONE in the market did untul now !!
To create a real mining rig that can beat the difficulty and make real ROI !!

In no way there is still a working company alive. They are dead in so many ways. Your hope is hopeless for sure.

I wonder what the police would find out when they investigate all the people that were near friedcat. Someone has to know something i think.

will they still be able to find anything if the evidence is completely fried?

One thing we learned from all the scams that happened is that nearly no scammer is as clever as he thought. So it is unlikely that a scamming friedcat can go through without anybody near him knowing anything at all.

[Temo58]

Oh geez, what a mess. Usually the price rebounds at least to some degree after going down... I don't know... 200%??? But this is just insane. Yeah, ask side seems to be frozen atm... So either Havelock is malfunctioning or we can only push even further down from here. I suspect the latter -.-

[Adrian-x]

Hope these guys will suprise us with something that NO ONE in the market did untul now !!
To create a real mining rig that can beat the difficulty and make real ROI !!

In no way there is still a working company alive. They are dead in so many ways. Your hope is hopeless for sure.

I wonder what the police would find out when they investigate all the people that were near friedcat. Someone has to know something i think.

will they still be able to find anything if the evidence is completely fried?

One thing we learned from all the scams that happened is that nearly no scammer is as clever as he thought. So it is unlikely that a scamming friedcat can go through without anybody near him knowing anything at all.

the people who took him out know where he is.

[Blazed]

Is anyone actively going after him for this scam? I figured that everyone just seemed to be letting it go. It seems the people who really got taken were the AMHash buyers?

[SebastianJu]

Is anyone actively going after him for this scam? I figured that everyone just seemed to be letting it go. It seems the people who really got taken were the AMHash buyers?

That's something i don't understand in the bitcoin community too. Till now i went after any scam where i lost, regardless of the chances. Well, the success is not huge but there. But still, it's pretty strange that no victims combined to go after things till now. Or am i only not aware of it?

[gogxmagog]

no one is ever going to get any btc back. i would simply like to know what really happened. if FC really was abducted or kidnapped or murdered I think there would be a little more news around it.

a scammer absconding with company funds is not newsworthy in the btc world. it happens to 99% of these start ups.

a btc businessman being murdered or otherwise made to disappear is actually pretty big news.

seeing as there is zero news i can only conclude FC is alive and well and spending the company funds.

i also think he paid off anyone who could actually expose his whereabouts.

i dumped my shares ages ago, so im out, but id love to know where FC is and/or see him face the music.

[hdbuck]

Everybody was well aware of bitcoins exit scam risk, and everybody lost what it could afford to.

[SebastianJu]

no one is ever going to get any btc back. i would simply like to know what really happened. if FC really was abducted or kidnapped or murdered I think there would be a little more news around it.

a scammer absconding with company funds is not newsworthy in the btc world. it happens to 99% of these start ups.

a btc businessman being murdered or otherwise made to disappear is actually pretty big news.

seeing as there is zero news i can only conclude FC is alive and well and spending the company funds.

i also think he paid off anyone who could actually expose his whereabouts.

i dumped my shares ages ago, so im out, but id love to know where FC is and/or see him face the music.

Someone wrote some post above that the biggest shareholders visited him some time before, or only one of them?, and the poster wrote it might be possible that they got paid to keep calm.

I can't imagine that since it would mean that a lot of big players in the bitcoin world actually would be some form of scammers, getting paid knowing that everyone else will lose everything.

And the miners who were stolen in mongolia? Guess with no existing company now anymore there is no way at all to get them back. Or was that only a cover story?

[Lincoln6Echo]

no one is ever going to get any btc back. i would simply like to know what really happened. if FC really was abducted or kidnapped or murdered I think there would be a little more news around it.

a scammer absconding with company funds is not newsworthy in the btc world. it happens to 99% of these start ups.

a btc businessman being murdered or otherwise made to disappear is actually pretty big news.

seeing as there is zero news i can only conclude FC is alive and well and spending the company funds.

i also think he paid off anyone who could actually expose his whereabouts.

i dumped my shares ages ago, so im out, but id love to know where FC is and/or see him face the music.

Someone wrote some post above that the biggest shareholders visited him some time before, or only one of them?, and the poster wrote it might be possible that they got paid to keep calm.

I can't imagine that since it would mean that a lot of big players in the bitcoin world actually would be some form of scammers, getting paid knowing that everyone else will lose everything.

And the miners who were stolen in mongolia? Guess with no existing company now anymore there is no way at all to get them back. Or was that only a cover story?

The only big share holder i know who should know something is Jutural.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44764

But he never replied to my message (he speaks german btw). So

Why is it hard to imagine that big players in bitcoin are scammers? If you think about it the round table of scamalot is quite crowded.

[SebastianJu]

no one is ever going to get any btc back. i would simply like to know what really happened. if FC really was abducted or kidnapped or murdered I think there would be a little more news around it.

a scammer absconding with company funds is not newsworthy in the btc world. it happens to 99% of these start ups.

a btc businessman being murdered or otherwise made to disappear is actually pretty big news.

seeing as there is zero news i can only conclude FC is alive and well and spending the company funds.

i also think he paid off anyone who could actually expose his whereabouts.

i dumped my shares ages ago, so im out, but id love to know where FC is and/or see him face the music.

Someone wrote some post above that the biggest shareholders visited him some time before, or only one of them?, and the poster wrote it might be possible that they got paid to keep calm.

I can't imagine that since it would mean that a lot of big players in the bitcoin world actually would be some form of scammers, getting paid knowing that everyone else will lose everything.

And the miners who were stolen in mongolia? Guess with no existing company now anymore there is no way at all to get them back. Or was that only a cover story?

The only big share holder i know who should know something is Jutural.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44764

But he never replied to my message (he speaks german btw). So

Why is it hard to imagine that big players in bitcoin are scammers? If you think about it the round table of scamalot is quite crowded.

I know that alot early adopters and such have a strange kind of ethics, examples probably everyone knows, but what i mean is they surely are not all this way. If he met with one shareholder, well, the risk that one person is corrupt is 50-50%. But having to take on 6 or more big shareholders sound like a problem. It's very unlikely that all are corrupt.

Was Jutural running an asicminer pt or was he only a big fish?

In any case, there should be alot big fishes. And nothing is heard of them. Either they work in the background or not at all. Which would be strange. They might have earned more than they lost with asicminer but still.

[Lincoln6Echo]

Jutarul was just a Board member of Asicminer (=big fish). I think last Boardmember meeting was around late january 2015. So he should know something.
If someone got paid to keep quiet, this person probably would talk for money, too.

[SebastianJu]

Jutarul was just a Board member of Asicminer (=big fish). I think last Boardmember meeting was around late january 2015. So he should know something.
If someone got paid to keep quiet, this person probably would talk for money, too.

It's indeed a bit strange that he does not react even when people ask him.

Though i wonder if there is someone who lost enough to pay for infos. Maybe those who could lose enough were warned and dropped out. Though on the other hand, the signs were there that asicminer will never pay big divs so i assume only a few big investors might have still believed.