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Author Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It  (Read 3917042 times)
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June 21, 2013, 05:56:33 PM
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this thread has gone to shit.

Holy shit. Are we just going to keep bitching about the same thing over and over?

Have we asked Friedcat about a dedicated webspace for announcements and discussion? If not can we get that question to him?

See the previous posts regarding questions for Friedcat from the community.

This question IS included in the voting, it did not make the cut last time. We will vote on it again shortly. (Probably within a week or so)

I'll try to behave we have the speculation thread of course if people have the reply's of a user on ignore
There's no point in explaining these redirection locations until someone quotes your post Wink
Although I sometimes mix those two up myself

I do think that the dedicated webspace request will make the cut eventually (Bunch of enraged posters should vote that one up next time)
Or vote up a better question instead and let it be for now until we exhaust our list

The resources are there if you update your list now and then I have a hotlink directory to the important ones

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June 21, 2013, 06:37:38 PM
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I haven't heard this company (BTC Garden) mentioned much when people are discussing potential future hashrate competitors:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213172.0

Would anyone who has been following this care to share their opinions and/or calculations on this company's potential chance at success, delivery date, and hash rate?
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June 21, 2013, 07:46:16 PM
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I haven't heard this company (BTC Garden) mentioned much when people are discussing potential future hashrate competitors:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213172.0

Would anyone who has been following this care to share their opinions and/or calculations on this company's potential chance at success, delivery date, and hash rate?

The issue with future potential hashrate competitors is kind of a tough one.

ASICMINER has a huge head start, and (should have) a huge bank account.

It would take a competitor of massive proportions to have the same amount of stroke the AM currently has with vendors.

Future hashrate predictions/competitors don't always pan out into a real competitor. Those are the two things to consider for the pro-ASICMINER side of the argument.

As for the competition, they could be successful if they can manage to execute on what they offer in a timely manner. Current competitors do not seem to be doing this.

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June 21, 2013, 08:30:05 PM
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I haven't heard this company (BTC Garden) mentioned much when people are discussing potential future hashrate competitors:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213172.0

Would anyone who has been following this care to share their opinions and/or calculations on this company's potential chance at success, delivery date, and hash rate?

BTC garden is funded by the owner of largest Chinese bitcoin forum, BTCMAN.COM
They not going to sell there devices into market, instead they will offer cloud hash. the price is around 800-1200BTC per 1T/hash rate and then aimed to adding 100 T after august, but I do not believe they could generate such amount at that time, because their products are too expensive ,I do not think people will go 1TH for that BTC, 1 TH is the minimum order I seen so far.


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June 21, 2013, 09:57:56 PM
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I haven't heard this company (BTC Garden) mentioned much when people are discussing potential future hashrate competitors:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213172.0

Would anyone who has been following this care to share their opinions and/or calculations on this company's potential chance at success, delivery date, and hash rate?

The issue with future potential hashrate competitors is kind of a tough one.

ASICMINER has a huge head start, and (should have) a huge bank account.

It would take a competitor of massive proportions to have the same amount of stroke the AM currently has with vendors.

Future hashrate predictions/competitors don't always pan out into a real competitor. Those are the two things to consider for the pro-ASICMINER side of the argument.

As for the competition, they could be successful if they can manage to execute on what they offer in a timely manner. Current competitors do not seem to be doing this.

$0.02

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I'm expecting a price-war to materialize in the course of the year. Even though that means that the current premium that AM is charging would disappear, AM is incredibly well-equipped for competing in that price-war: their war-chest is full (NRE costs recovered ages ago), their process is cheaper (130nm), and their reputation is outstanding compared to competitors.

Bring it on!

Edit: AM may be disadvantaged in the power-efficiency, but that is far away from being the deciding factor in the war - will only come into play when network hash rate reaches double-digit peta-hashes per second.
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June 21, 2013, 10:24:47 PM
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BTC3 here we come

I'm a fucking oracle.

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June 21, 2013, 10:29:11 PM
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Everytime friedcat announce anything share rises, it goes like this.
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June 22, 2013, 12:01:15 AM
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There doesn't seem to be much resistance till 3.55... but looks like the demand isn't there "yet". Likely with next weeks dividends (guessing 0.2~ based on the charts), along with the upcoming next batch of hardware we can see that broken. Probably a mass selloff at that point, dropping it down a few notches.

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June 22, 2013, 12:12:03 AM
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Guys what about this issue of poor friedcat and all these direct share transfers?

Seems a little ridiculous to have the CEO of a $100+ MM company updating an excel sheet every day.

Whats the answer?

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June 22, 2013, 12:16:06 AM
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Guys what about this issue of poor friedcat and all these direct share transfers?

Seems a little ridiculous to have the CEO of a $100+ MM company updating an excel sheet every day.

Whats the answer?

It's been my impression that he has staff monitor those transfers.  Notice 'he' commonly says "We verify..."

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June 22, 2013, 12:16:26 AM
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Guys what about this issue of poor friedcat and all these direct share transfers?

Seems a little ridiculous to have the CEO of a $100+ MM company updating an excel sheet every day.

Whats the answer?

Let poor friedcat Hire some support staff for ASICMINER Wink
Although I think that it's sort of neat that the CEO of a 100+ MM company is updating an excel sheet every day

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June 22, 2013, 12:32:30 AM
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wow 36hr charts show 40 terahash or more! wow!
anyone have that chart of estimated dividends based on hashrate?

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June 22, 2013, 12:34:54 AM
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Guys what about this issue of poor friedcat and all these direct share transfers?
Seems a little ridiculous to have the CEO of a $100+ MM company updating an excel sheet every day.
Whats the answer?

It's been my impression that he has staff monitor those transfers.  Notice 'he' commonly says "We verify..."

I've followed this thread for some time (every page, since the beginning Wink) and he said the following about that:

Update
It has been and will always be me myself who use the forum id friedcat to post updates and replies. If my partners are to announce the news or contact the shareholders instead of me, they will use their own account.

Asicminer Hashrate Charts @ www.asicminercharts.com

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June 22, 2013, 12:50:07 AM
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That's both good and bad to know.

I'll now have guilt each time I buy a small number of shares  Wink
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June 22, 2013, 01:00:55 AM
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anyone have that chart of estimated dividends based on hashrate?

Here are the charts I follow:

http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/

http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/

http://www.asicminercharts.com/
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June 22, 2013, 04:03:08 AM
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anyone have that chart of estimated dividends based on hashrate?

Here are the charts I follow:

http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/

http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/

http://www.asicminercharts.com/

is it just me or does anyone else have a problem viewing those in chrome?

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June 22, 2013, 04:05:21 AM
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anyone have that chart of estimated dividends based on hashrate?

Here are the charts I follow:

http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/

http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/

http://www.asicminercharts.com/

is it just me or does anyone else have a problem viewing those in chrome?

Chrome on OSX works fine.
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June 22, 2013, 04:09:53 AM
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anyone have that chart of estimated dividends based on hashrate?

Here are the charts I follow:

http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/

http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/

http://www.asicminercharts.com/

is it just me or does anyone else have a problem viewing those in chrome?

Chrome on OSX works fine.

Fine in Linux too.

https://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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June 22, 2013, 04:17:24 AM
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anyone have that chart of estimated dividends based on hashrate?

Here are the charts I follow:

http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/

http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/

http://www.asicminercharts.com/

is it just me or does anyone else have a problem viewing those in chrome?

Chrome on OSX works fine.

Broken on Chrome for me, Win 7.

Chrome on Android is OK.

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June 22, 2013, 04:29:10 AM
Last edit: June 22, 2013, 09:03:45 AM by freedomno1
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All work fine for me on chrome
Version 27.0.1453.110 m
Maybe it will bug out if I relaunch and update though
Seems to be an error not a troubleshooting thread but might help if everyone knows chrome isn't working for ASIC data for some users
Similar bug to this crash and others I presume
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/3albbtoYh9Y
Edit bugged too

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