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June 11, 2014, 03:23:13 AM |
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The new cube looks pretty darn good. Here's to hoping for 600 watts at the wall with a price tag around 1k.
No way! Will be over 800 watts at wall. So is my space heater, and it doesn't generate bitcoin... whats a few measly watts difference.... A few measly watts? Lol some people are paying $0.30/kwh.. Buddy lets take ten of these miners, that's a sizable increase in an electricity bill that leads to a smaller profit margin for mining Bitcoin. But hey who's counting right? Meh.. If i had to choose between 800w at the wall, and lesser tech + higher a/c cost, I'm sure that a few antminers will end up in the trash heap.. I'd be happy if they pull anywhere close to 800w.. 600w would be a dream, but what i'm saying is that I wouldn't pass it up due to a 200-300watt difference in estimates.
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spartan82
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June 11, 2014, 03:28:15 AM |
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The new cube looks pretty darn good. Here's to hoping for 600 watts at the wall with a price tag around 1k.
No way! Will be over 800 watts at wall. So is my space heater, and it doesn't generate bitcoin... whats a few measly watts difference.... A few measly watts? Lol some people are paying $0.30/kwh.. Buddy lets take ten of these miners, that's a sizable increase in an electricity bill that leads to a smaller profit margin for mining Bitcoin. But hey who's counting right? Meh.. If i had to choose between 800w at the wall, and lesser tech + higher a/c cost, I'm sure that a few antminers will end up in the trash heap.. I'd be happy if they pull anywhere close to 800w.. 600w would be a dream, but what i'm saying is that I wouldn't pass it up due to a 200-300watt difference in estimates. Fair enough, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Regardless of what you would mind or not, others might find that over 1W/gh is a bit more than expected at these times especially. I personally think we have come far enough to surpass that kind of output in electricity per gh.. We can only wait and see
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June 11, 2014, 09:45:50 PM |
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Here is some information about Spondoolies-Tech: http://www.3-coin.com/2014-06-09/2753/With shipping not until September and possibly 0.3-0.4 W/ghash, AM chips in hand today appear to beat them
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June 11, 2014, 10:23:38 PM |
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Here is some information about Spondoolies-Tech: http://www.3-coin.com/2014-06-09/2753/With shipping not until September and possibly 0.3-0.4 W/ghash, AM chips in hand today appear to beat them The September batch is what's selling right now, but first SP30 units are supposed to go out at the end of July and also there is another batch that is already sold out for August. Good luck selling 60PH to miners from July onwards!
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June 11, 2014, 10:24:54 PM |
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Here is some information about Spondoolies-Tech: http://www.3-coin.com/2014-06-09/2753/With shipping not until September and possibly 0.3-0.4 W/ghash, AM chips in hand today appear to beat them The SP-30 is very impressive. But if e.g. XBTec really manage to keep their promises on their BE 200 powered 2 TH/s Pacific 2000 miner ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626694.0), those 2-3 months and their also quite competitive price tag should make life more complicated for Spondoolies.
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June 11, 2014, 10:27:19 PM |
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Here is some information about Spondoolies-Tech: http://www.3-coin.com/2014-06-09/2753/With shipping not until September and possibly 0.3-0.4 W/ghash, AM chips in hand today appear to beat them The September batch is what's selling right now, but first SP30 units are supposed to go out at the end of July and also there is another batch that is already sold out for August. Good luck selling 60PH to miners from July onwards! Well...
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June 12, 2014, 03:14:31 AM |
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Update RK-BOX specs: Prototype is testing now,here is pics: First batch production will be done on 24th,and shipping date will be 25th,email sales@rockminer.com or PM me to get more infos. Thanks for your support.
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June 12, 2014, 04:34:45 AM |
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And just in Case anyone was napping and not looking at the Friedcat posts here is the AM_BE200_X24 CAD
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June 12, 2014, 05:20:06 AM |
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Update RK-BOX specs: Prototype is testing now,here is pics: First batch production will be done on 24th,and shipping date will be 25th,email sales@rockminer.com or PM me to get more infos. Thanks for your support. Sexy beast, 1.06W/Gh.. Was hoping for better but fuck me they are selling like hotcakes hey lol
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June 13, 2014, 02:41:12 AM |
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With the dropping rate of the BTC from the U.S. Gov selling off the 29,656 BTC, does anyone anticipate any significant movement in the mining industry/total network hashrate? Since the drop of the news here, BTC has taken quite a tumble from mid 600 to now upper 500s. Here is the timeline of event: June 23rd: Bidder Registration June 27th: Auction from 6am - 6pm EDT June 30th: Winners notified July 1st: Wire Transfer Deadline for Winning Parties This is not meant to start a flame war about political views or speculation of BTC price in the coming weeks; rather how does this potentially effect all current miners with potential massive price swings in either way. Moreover, does this news mean a change of plans for the end of June and early July? U.S. Marshall's Announcement of BTC Auction: http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/bitcoins/
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June 13, 2014, 02:50:00 AM |
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With the dropping rate of the BTC from the U.S. Gov selling off the 29,656 BTC, does anyone anticipate any significant movement in the mining industry/total network hashrate? Since the drop of the news here, BTC has taken quite a tumble from mid 600 to now upper 500s. Here is the timeline of event: June 23rd: Bidder Registration June 27th: Auction from 6am - 6pm EDT June 30th: Winners notified July 1st: Wire Transfer Deadline for Winning Parties This is not meant to start a flame war about political views or speculation of BTC price in the coming weeks; rather how does this potentially effect all current miners with potential massive price swings in either way. Moreover, does this news mean a change of plans for the end of June and early July? U.S. Marshall's Announcement of BTC Auction: http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/bitcoins/It might affect the price in the short term, this combined with the increasing fiat conversions due to increasing merchant acceptance, might bring a decreasing price along with a slowing of the hashrate for the short term. However in the long term increasing merchant adoption and I guess the perception that people with over 200K in liquid assets aka rich people buying Bitcoin and also willing to trade them for fiat will bring increasing recognition. As to how this affects the mining sphere, it may result in a buildup of extra units or all the positive sentiment might mean more miners joining the network instead, as more people hear about Bitcoin and start seeing it positively. Kind of like Friedcats chip theory sell chips first have more miners then make their own miners then increase the total users. So Kind of Wishy-Washy for me not sure which effect will have more impact. Increasing positive sentiment or perceived divisibility with the FBI for now.
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June 13, 2014, 02:53:20 AM |
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With the dropping rate of the BTC from the U.S. Gov selling off the 29,656 BTC, does anyone anticipate any significant movement in the mining industry/total network hashrate? Since the drop of the news here, BTC has taken quite a tumble from mid 600 to now upper 500s. Here is the timeline of event: June 23rd: Bidder Registration June 27th: Auction from 6am - 6pm EDT June 30th: Winners notified July 1st: Wire Transfer Deadline for Winning Parties This is not meant to start a flame war about political views or speculation of BTC price in the coming weeks; rather how does this potentially effect all current miners with potential massive price swings in either way. Moreover, does this news mean a change of plans for the end of June and early July? U.S. Marshall's Announcement of BTC Auction: http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/bitcoins/in short, it legitimizes B/bitcoin further which helps it for the long run.
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June 13, 2014, 03:00:17 AM |
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Yeah it really seems like people are selling on good news right now.
Obligatory.. Weak hands something something.
I can only see this as good news and potential fuel to a media frenzy.
"Silk Road X Bitcoin X Global Criminal Drug Operation X FBI X Big Money X Auction"
This story writes itself so I will be a little surprised if news networks don't pick this up when they talk about recent news or economics or stocks or something. There's pretty much a little bit of something in there for everyone. Just the news alone will cause people already in BTC to probably get further into BTC in some sort of anticipation (that may not/probably won't happen).
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Franktank
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June 13, 2014, 03:05:31 AM |
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in short, it legitimizes B/bitcoin further which helps it for the long run.
I share the same mindset here also but the original question was aimed more towards the current situation of miners. Roughly speaking, there are hundreds of PH/s that will be coming online in the next couple months. A sudden down swing in price will having miners thinking twice about purchasing and bringing it online while an upswing could potentially send the network into the Exahash region. Anyone care to share their speculative thoughts on which way it will swing (with semi-substantial rationale) and how AM might react to such a shift? FYI: The U.S. Gov still owns ~144k Bitcoins so they still have a decent sum left in their wallets.
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June 13, 2014, 03:54:56 AM |
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GHash's actions will force Friedcat's hand, or everyone will be left with worthless hardware.
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June 13, 2014, 04:16:27 AM |
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I think the US Gov sell-off is a storm in a teacup. I'd be surprised if there aren't already bids at or above market for the lot. So imho no effect on AM.
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June 13, 2014, 04:29:31 AM |
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AM cannot sit idle much longer, no other entity can scale up in time. The balance must be restored.
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June 13, 2014, 08:15:37 AM |
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I think the US Gov sell-off is a storm in a teacup. I'd be surprised if there aren't already bids at or above market for the lot. So imho no effect on AM.
Well considering they need to wire transfer 200,000 to the exchange before the auction And that the bidding has a fixed period their probably are no bids yet lol Until bidding starts that is As for the hashrate well Friedcat is selling chips so their is always demand for those Even DIY miners because of the open source project
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June 13, 2014, 08:40:41 AM |
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How about ASICMINER tries to use this auction to scoop up some below market BTC? Alternatively push the price to market rates?
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June 13, 2014, 08:46:11 AM Last edit: June 13, 2014, 08:56:57 AM by 101111 |
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I think the US Gov sell-off is a storm in a teacup. I'd be surprised if there aren't already bids at or above market for the lot. So imho no effect on AM.
Well considering they need to wire transfer 200,000 to the exchange before the auction And that the bidding has a fixed period their probably are no bids yet lol Until bidding starts that is As for the hashrate well Friedcat is selling chips so their is always demand for those Even DIY miners because of the open source project Registration opens 23rd; I should have more explicitly stated bids prepared and ready to register. The point was the effect on AM though. edit: such as these guys http://bitcoinvox.com/article/239/investment-firm-to-bid-for-seized-silk-road-bitcoins
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