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June 01, 2014, 05:09:16 PM
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TAT never had a position. He had it because of the Passthrough management and he was forced out of it when Havelock took over. Now his personal opinion is one thing but he definitely doesn't have super secret conspiracy type information to base his opinion on.

Not sure where I led you to believe a conspiracy was involved.  Havelock dealings are a black box to me, so I'm uncertain how you came to the conclusion that TAT was "forced out."  But no conspiracy beyond the usual opaqueness needs to take place.
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June 01, 2014, 05:36:16 PM
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TAT never had a position. He had it because of the Passthrough management and he was forced out of it when Havelock took over. Now his personal opinion is one thing but he definitely doesn't have super secret conspiracy type information to base his opinion on.

Not sure where I led you to believe a conspiracy was involved.  Havelock dealings are a black box to me, so I'm uncertain how you came to the conclusion that TAT was "forced out."  But no conspiracy beyond the usual opaqueness needs to take place.

TaT was not forced out, he just had enough dealing with the Havelock passing through biz. Moving on stuff.. Yet i bet he still have some personal stake in AM.
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June 01, 2014, 05:40:30 PM
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TAT never had a position. He had it because of the Passthrough management and he was forced out of it when Havelock took over. Now his personal opinion is one thing but he definitely doesn't have super secret conspiracy type information to base his opinion on.

Not sure where I led you to believe a conspiracy was involved.  Havelock dealings are a black box to me, so I'm uncertain how you came to the conclusion that TAT was "forced out."  But no conspiracy beyond the usual opaqueness needs to take place.

TaT was not forced out, he just had enough dealing with the Havelock passing through AM's biz. Moving on you know.. Yet i bet he still have some personal stake in AM.

He did not have enough dealing with the HL PTs to not introduce the NEOBEE PT though... Tongue
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June 01, 2014, 05:46:52 PM
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TAT never had a position. He had it because of the Passthrough management and he was forced out of it when Havelock took over. Now his personal opinion is one thing but he definitely doesn't have super secret conspiracy type information to base his opinion on.

Not sure where I led you to believe a conspiracy was involved.  Havelock dealings are a black box to me, so I'm uncertain how you came to the conclusion that TAT was "forced out."  But no conspiracy beyond the usual opaqueness needs to take place.

Don't you think TAT's a scammer for being in bed with NeoBee?
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June 01, 2014, 05:52:11 PM
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now buy buy buy!
and hodl,

yesterday was a good day for trading, 0.12 bottom.
now 0.24 with potential to 0.3-0.4 in few days
still great profit opportunity

i hope friedcat will launch some immersion cointainers with own pcb design, a lot of money was dumped into those tanks and installations, i am sure that it will be used or sold in next few weeks.
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June 01, 2014, 05:54:25 PM
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Don't you think TAT's a scammer for being in bed with NeoBee?

Why do you think he doesn't post on here anymore? All that "insider trading" Havelock mentioned was TAT dumping shares, leaving all other "investors" out to dry. That's why he didn't push any further legal action, he got his BTC out. That's all that mattered to him. "ThickasThieves", a fitting name.

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June 01, 2014, 05:56:58 PM
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now buy buy buy!
and hodl,

yesterday was a good day for trading, 0.12 bottom.
now 0.24 with potential to 0.3-0.4 in few days
still great profit opportunity

i hope friedcat will launch some immersion cointainers with own pcb design, a lot of money was dumped into those tanks and installations, i am sure that it will be used or sold in next few weeks.

To people who sold their shares at a loss due to panic, you can thank people like this person who spread FUD.

finally, fresh perspective
it looks like scam now

and some of you, circlejerks and bagholders think over it again.

no divs, but sales and mining were done
no posting either

"we are all fucked over again", in bfl style (failed gen2, overpromised gen3, no communication and "subject to change")

sad.
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June 01, 2014, 05:58:32 PM
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TAT never had a position. He had it because of the Passthrough management and he was forced out of it when Havelock took over. Now his personal opinion is one thing but he definitely doesn't have super secret conspiracy type information to base his opinion on.

Not sure where I led you to believe a conspiracy was involved.  Havelock dealings are a black box to me, so I'm uncertain how you came to the conclusion that TAT was "forced out."  But no conspiracy beyond the usual opaqueness needs to take place.

TaT was not forced out, he just had enough dealing with the Havelock passing through AM's biz. Moving on you know.. Yet i bet he still have some personal stake in AM.

He did not have enough dealing with the HL PTs to not introduce the NEOBEE PT though... Tongue

Sure everybody makes mistakes. I remember thinking once Neobee was great.
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June 01, 2014, 06:00:31 PM
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Don't you think TAT's a scammer for being in bed with NeoBee?

Why do you think he doesn't post on here anymore? All that "insider trading" Havelock mentioned was TAT dumping shares, leaving all other "investors" out to dry. That's why he didn't push any further legal action, he got his BTC out. That's all that mattered to him. "ThickasThieves", a fitting name.

Then why should we give a fuck what TAT thinks? Now, if he was just another scamee and not a scammer, then again, why should we listen to his investing advice?

Basically, there's no reason to pay any notice to what TAT says.
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June 01, 2014, 06:00:42 PM
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when he posted last time in this topic?

he doesnt care about shareholders.

he is worse than ken, at this regard.

where are updates?

wtf is going on?

i think we have been scammed.


now buy buy buy!
and hodl,

yesterday was a good day for trading, 0.12 bottom.
now 0.24 with potential to 0.3-0.4 in few days
still great profit opportunity

i hope friedcat will launch some immersion cointainers with own pcb design, a lot of money was dumped into those tanks and installations, i am sure that it will be used or sold in next few weeks.

                  Wow.
                                                Such manipulation.
                     Much BTC.
                                             So "pro"

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June 01, 2014, 06:00:52 PM
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now buy buy buy!
and hodl,

yesterday was a good day for trading, 0.12 bottom.
now 0.24 with potential to 0.3-0.4 in few days
still great profit opportunity

i hope friedcat will launch some immersion cointainers with own pcb design, a lot of money was dumped into those tanks and installations, i am sure that it will be used or sold in next few weeks.

To people who sold their shares at a loss due to panic, you can thank people this person and people like him who spread FUD.

finally, fresh perspective
it looks like scam now

and some of you, circlejerks and bagholders think over it again.

no divs, but sales and mining were done
no posting either

"we are all fucked over again", in bfl style (failed gen2, overpromised gen3, no communication and "subject to change")

sad.

Yep. I have that donkey on ignore from the moment he showed up here anyway. But I have to say kudos to him. He took well advantage of all the idiots who cannot read a balance sheet.
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June 01, 2014, 06:06:16 PM
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Protip for bbxx: check to make sure you are (or aren't) logged into sock puppet account #8761234 before posting.
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June 01, 2014, 06:13:40 PM
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Protip for bbxx: check to make sure you are (or aren't) logged into sock puppet account #8761234 before posting.

i do never use puppet account.

i was little confused by last days without raport but after digging some there and there i am now bullish.
plase do not blame me for loss of share value, it was not becouse of few of my post but all of that circumstances (unclear balance sheet, btc price apreciation, irc pastings, etc)

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June 01, 2014, 06:14:34 PM
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The lately XBTec now advertizes 5Ph immersion cooled mining rigs on their websites (here come your new competitors spondoo..)..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626694.msg7074332#msg7074332.

This is really interesting!
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June 01, 2014, 06:19:59 PM
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Protip for bbxx: check to make sure you are (or aren't) logged into sock puppet account #8761234 before posting.
i was little confused by last days without raport but after digging some there and there i am now bullish.
plase do not blame me for loss of share value, it was not becouse of few of my post but all of that circumstances (unclear balance sheet, btc price apreciation, irc pastings, etc)

BS even your avatar betrays you. At least be proud of it.
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June 01, 2014, 06:20:51 PM
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The lately XBTec now advertizes 5Ph immersion cooled mining rigs on their websites (here come your new competitors spondoo..)..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626694.msg7074332#msg7074332.

This is really interesting!

That would be at least $1.5 million USD profit for AM for everyone of them sold.
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June 01, 2014, 06:26:47 PM
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The lately XBTec now advertizes 5Ph immersion cooled mining rigs on their websites (here come your new competitors spondoo..)..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626694.msg7074332#msg7074332.

This is really interesting!

That would be at least $1.5 million USD profit for AM for everyone of them sold.

It wouldnt surprise me that AM reserved few of them (at preferential price) for their own mining operations too.
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June 01, 2014, 06:34:11 PM
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During all the irrational panic, has no one paid any attention to the immersion cooling portion? According to page 3, production of the PCBs, immersion tanks, and their assembly started on May 8th. Seems to explain the lack of May dividends and why much of the assets consists of "materials" (according to the financial statements).

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByWHHc0u_thNdzB3c2hvVzJkcTQ/edit

Anyone else curious when they come online?


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June 01, 2014, 06:38:49 PM
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Mehh everything is on track. Within the next month or two, we will see even more miner companies blooming thx to AM's chips. The lately XBTec now advertizes 5Ph immersion cooled mining rigs on their websites (here come your new competitors spondoo..)..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626694.msg7074332#msg7074332

AM share price will go up back to 0,4 in a blink once we got a better idea about quantities, production/selling prices, advancement in production, kicking off of solomining and franchising. They just started selling WORKING chips (in-stock!) for barely a month. Cut FC some slack so he can sell those 8M worth chips (production cost). And there's still a massive 3rd batch for june..
Tape out was successful 3 months ago only (or could it be 2 maybe? I remembered some delays so everything would be perfect - ie not like Avalon, Hashfast & co.).
I predict by july/august 1st round of agressive divs. Taking the price back to 0,7 at least.

Now keep your FUD to yourselves or feel free to sell your shares at those RIDICULOUS prices

edit: Plus AM is dealing with TSMC. thats no bullshit industry partner. what's 3 months of no divs? or even 5 or 6? or a year? NEVER in any normal companies divs has been payed every fucking weeks. you noobs.

yup. so basically everyone AM sold chips to makes money but AM themselves. Hilarious that friedcat ran around confirming orders to pump IPOs of every (former) large AM shareholder.

He's going to bleed out AM dry, and guess who, as usual, is going to be left holding the bag? Not friedcat, not the chinese shareholders, not rockminer or anyone else who bought those chips.

Sounds exactly like what TAT is insinuating in those chat logs.
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June 01, 2014, 06:44:22 PM
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No conspiracy.  But, we have become a really big group of whiny bitches.  (myself included)
Regardless if it's warranted or not - I wouldn't want to put up with us.


I wouldn't be so quick to be apologetic about investor behavior. It's largely attributable to the lack of information coming from AM. IMHO there would be a fraction of the problems if they reported and didn't let imaginations run wild. To blame investors for their poor behavior as a result of the situation is wrong.

The less communication we have, the more irritated we become.  
The more irritated we become, the less communication we'll be provided.

I totally agree with you.  But, there's no good reason for them to fix it.  We're irrelevant.





I'm pretty sure AM isn't giving us the silent treatment for behaving like insolent children. What I find interesting is all those who felt it was an act of dissension asking questions and just said trust in FC are post financial report, asking similar questions.
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