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Author Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It  (Read 3914560 times)
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May 29, 2014, 06:44:49 AM
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I think he does not care, i have seen this attitude before. Godlike walking among us mortals.
Please, the only people that invested were the original investors.  FC made them multi millionaires. All those that invested subsequently did so for the dividends.  They added no new capital to FC or his business. You would do the same, if you were FC.
Actually it is the "subsequent investors" are the ones who made Friedcat rich.
He liquidated shares when the price hit 4 btc/share Smiley
Some people don't seem to understand the relevance of the secondary market.

Source?

IIRC he specifically said he didn't sell during the bubble.

It was last year at the peak, I remember seeing a post in the securities subforum here, I think it was Bitfountain that liquidated some shares at 4.
If someone is in the mood to dig around the posts in the forums, you guys are my guest.

Found this quote: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/asicminer-entering-the-future-of-asic-mining-by-inventing-it.61268/page-140#post-1597354

So although it's likely bitfountain did unload shares at 4btc/share, FC did not get rich because of it.
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May 29, 2014, 06:51:43 AM
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where are dividends?
where is financial report?
where is mining income?
why you have not responded marto about chips?
why immersion cooling facility is not working?

why you are ignoring investors?

please respond, friedcat
thanks.

great next round of questions. friendlypumpkin, are you ready? FC loves short answers, like "May 27th.", so he'll get short but very important questions.

add : where are money from chips sales?

and for everyone who is saying me : "go away, if you dont trust our God, sell your shares." I cant, i am stuck here. There is simply no liquidity on Havelock, if you don't want to see prices under 0.1 btc in the blink of an eye.

So you have so much shares you cause a major crash(assuming more than 500 since goat just sold that much without putting a dent in the market) yet you create as much FUD/useless posts/rhetorical questions as possible?

I'd guess you're just a pump and dumper based on your ability to switch back and forth from bull to bear mode with the flip of a switch.
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May 29, 2014, 06:55:51 AM
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I think he does not care, i have seen this attitude before. Godlike walking among us mortals.
Please, the only people that invested were the original investors.  FC made them multi millionaires. All those that invested subsequently did so for the dividends.  They added no new capital to FC or his business. You would do the same, if you were FC.
Actually it is the "subsequent investors" are the ones who made Friedcat rich.
He liquidated shares when the price hit 4 btc/share Smiley
Some people don't seem to understand the relevance of the secondary market.

Source?

IIRC he specifically said he didn't sell during the bubble.

It was last year at the peak, I remember seeing a post in the securities subforum here, I think it was Bitfountain that liquidated some shares at 4.
If someone is in the mood to dig around the posts in the forums, you guys are my guest.

Found this quote: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/asicminer-entering-the-future-of-asic-mining-by-inventing-it.61268/page-140#post-1597354

So although it's likely bitfountain did unload shares at 4btc/share, FC did not get rich because of it.
And we should thank our lucky stars that FC still has shares in AM, because that's one reason why he won't simply walk away.

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May 29, 2014, 07:07:56 AM
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Quite a bit of drama appearing. Has anyone decided to reach out to FC or Jutarul to see if there was a date change or any updated information that can be disclosed passed the board and down to the shareholders?

Of course I am perfectly fine with waiting. I don't see an issue with no news or dividends until the end of Q2 personally. But it seems that everyday from this day onward with no information will only cause a depreciation of the share price and an increase in accusations and rumors.

With a rising BTC price, this hurts all of us. Even AM.
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May 29, 2014, 08:23:11 AM
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i think you dont know who is TF (tradefortress), do you see analogy?

I think you're on to something.

Tradefortress: Starts multiple businesses with no sources of revenue including an online wallet which was conveniently hacked losing ALL of its money. Completely anonymous and businesses only involve shifting money around.

Friedcat: Has developed, produced, and sold hardware earning the company and its investors over 500% in dividends. Completed 3rd gen asics and is now working on 4th gen. Pseudonymous meaning people know who he is, it's just not publicly broadcasted.

Definitely a great analogy.

Tradefortress: has collected a lot of btc for his activities, was regullary paying dividends and income share to build his reputation until he decided that he has earned enough and then he stopped paying and posting.

Friedcat: has collected a lot of btc for his activities, was regullary paying dividends and income share to build his reputation until he decided that he has earned enough and then he stopped paying and posting.
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i think you dont know who is TF (tradefortress), do you see analogy?

I think you're on to something.

Tradefortress: Starts multiple businesses with no sources of revenue including an online wallet which was conveniently hacked losing ALL of its money. Completely anonymous and businesses only involve shifting money around.

Friedcat: Has developed, produced, and sold hardware earning the company and its investors over 500% in dividends. Completed 3rd gen asics and is now working on 4th gen. Pseudonymous meaning people know who he is, it's just not publicly broadcasted.

Definitely a great analogy.

Tradefortress: has collected a lot of btc for his activities, was regullary paying dividends and income share to build his reputation until he decided that he has earned enough and then he stopped paying and posting.

Friedcat: has collected a lot of btc for his activities, was regullary paying dividends and income share to build his reputation until he decided that he has earned enough and then he stopped paying and posting.

So anyone who has an IPO = tradefortress?

TF didn't give out much dividends considering he ran a ponzi and none of his "businesses" had any sources of revenue. Compare that to FC who gave back 500% in dividends of actual profit from an actual business.

You're not a very good fudster.
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May 29, 2014, 08:51:15 AM
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i think you dont know who is TF (tradefortress), do you see analogy?

I think you're on to something.

Tradefortress: Starts multiple businesses with no sources of revenue including an online wallet which was conveniently hacked losing ALL of its money. Completely anonymous and businesses only involve shifting money around.

Friedcat: Has developed, produced, and sold hardware earning the company and its investors over 500% in dividends. Completed 3rd gen asics and is now working on 4th gen. Pseudonymous meaning people know who he is, it's just not publicly broadcasted.

Definitely a great analogy.

Tradefortress: has collected a lot of btc for his activities, was regullary paying dividends and income share to build his reputation until he decided that he has earned enough and then he stopped paying and posting.

Friedcat: has collected a lot of btc for his activities, was regullary paying dividends and income share to build his reputation until he decided that he has earned enough and then he stopped paying and posting.

So anyone who has an IPO and gives dividends = tradefortress?

You're not a very good fudster.

no, why?
there is a lot of honest and respectable ipo launchers,
for example crypt-x
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May 29, 2014, 08:56:12 AM
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no, why?
there is a lot of honest and respectable ipo launchers,
for example crypt-x

You surely don't mean cryptx the operators of petamine and scryptx right?

I would love to know of any bitcoin IPO that returned 500% or even 200% in dividends.
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May 29, 2014, 09:00:45 AM
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no, why?
there is a lot of honest and respectable ipo launchers,
for example crypt-x

You surely don't mean cryptx the operators of petamine and scryptx right?

I would love to know of any bitcoin IPO that returned 500% or even 200% in dividends.

please dont mix pass performance with recent activities.

all is about keeping promises, be informative and be transparent.

friedcat has ruined his reputation terribly.
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May 29, 2014, 09:03:23 AM
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no, why?
there is a lot of honest and respectable ipo launchers,
for example crypt-x

You surely don't mean cryptx the operators of petamine and scryptx right?

I would love to know of any bitcoin IPO that returned 500% or even 200% in dividends.

please dont mix pass performance with recent activities.

all is about keeping promises, be informative and be transparent.

friedcat has ruined his reputation terribly.

Friedcat has not broken a promise. Can you show us which one?

Your argument is completely flawed based on this untrue assumption.
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May 29, 2014, 09:10:15 AM
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no, why?
there is a lot of honest and respectable ipo launchers,
for example crypt-x

You surely don't mean cryptx the operators of petamine and scryptx right?

I would love to know of any bitcoin IPO that returned 500% or even 200% in dividends.

please dont mix pass performance with recent activities.

all is about keeping promises, be informative and be transparent.

friedcat has ruined his reputation terribly.

Friedcat has not broken a promise. Can you show us which one?

Your argument is completely flawed based on this untrue assumption.


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May 29, 2014, 09:13:45 AM
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no, why?
there is a lot of honest and respectable ipo launchers,
for example crypt-x

You surely don't mean cryptx the operators of petamine and scryptx right?

I would love to know of any bitcoin IPO that returned 500% or even 200% in dividends.

please dont mix pass performance with recent activities.

all is about keeping promises, be informative and be transparent.

friedcat has ruined his reputation terribly.

Friedcat has not broken a promise. Can you show us which one?

Your argument is completely flawed based on this untrue assumption.


ok i will address few...

mass gen3 chip sales in march
immersion cooling income/sells
frequent updates
regular dividends

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May 29, 2014, 09:18:15 AM
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Everyone stop arguing,  friedcat is online now!  Let't catch him quietly !
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May 29, 2014, 09:25:32 AM
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div received holy jesus .2362 per share.

Thank you friedcat you're my hero again

look what you said before...
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May 29, 2014, 09:26:07 AM
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mass gen3 chip sales in march

Declaration: Before physical chips are out and fully tested, all specs/dates/data are for reference only and subject to change

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immersion cooling income/sells

Immersion cooling has been earning btc since it was set up in October(?)

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frequent updates

True.

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regular dividends

How does one give out dividends without earnings?

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Please do share.
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May 29, 2014, 09:28:09 AM
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Guys, come on, let's face it:
- Yes, communication is not good.
- There is no reason to believe there won't be an update and probably dividends soon.
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May 29, 2014, 10:04:00 AM
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mass gen3 chip sales in march

Declaration: Before physical chips are out and fully tested, all specs/dates/data are for reference only and subject to change


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immersion cooling income/sells

Immersion cooling has been earning btc since it was set up in October(?)

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frequent updates

True.

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regular dividends

How does one give out dividends without earnings?

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and more

Please do share.

ok so reference is not promise (bfl style)
immersion cooling 2ph? april? no. not yet. few days to july now.

some more?

ok.
 
website,
pr person,
p2p bitcoin stock exchange,
green island,
chip distribution to community (marto, bichelski etc)


 
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May 29, 2014, 10:06:01 AM
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Sure would be nice if Jutarul stopped by.
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May 29, 2014, 10:09:04 AM
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Business is business and sometimes circumstances may change business decisions for the betterment of that business but being unresponsive to the people that pour in their support is plain disrespectful.
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May 29, 2014, 10:25:34 AM
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when he posted last time in this topic?

he doesnt care about shareholders.

he is worse than ken, at this regard.

where are updates?

wtf is going on?

i think we have been scammed.
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