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I don't know if Havelock charge 5% on AM100. But when TAT had the AM100 he charged 5% and you had the posibility to transfer 105 AM100 to one AM1.
Shares
Each 1 share of AM100 represents 1/100th of a share of ASICMINER maintained and verified by either Friedcat or any officially designated exchange, and has rights to 1/100th of the dividends of a whole ASICMINER share.
Dividends
Each AM100 share has the right to 95% of its respective dividends. 5% will be retained for asset management fees. The amount of the dividend is defined as the same amount distributed by ASICMINER to the shares held by the issuer for this asset. Dividends will be paid within 48 hours or less of confirmed payments from ASICMINER. Source: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=AM100Although it could be outdated, this is what is posted on the havelock AM100 page.. |
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JstnPwll
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June 23, 2014, 02:09:51 PM |
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I am tempted to make the company's (havelock-)value go down below IPO. I mean... enough is enough.
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If you do this, please make sure you fill my order for 100 units @ 0.091. I'd love some shares at that price. |
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June 23, 2014, 03:36:26 PM |
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The only time Havelock mentions being able to convert AM100 is upon dissolution of the asset... I would love if they got rid of the 5% fee AND let you freely convert...
Hell, they should just remove AM1, convert them all into AM100, and remove the fee and be done with it... there really is not the liquidity to support both.
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Blazed
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June 23, 2014, 03:44:25 PM |
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My buy order for AM1 for ฿0.19205408 just executed, what do you think?  Hard to say how it will do... good luck though! |
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June 23, 2014, 03:51:48 PM |
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The only time Havelock mentions being able to convert AM100 is upon dissolution of the asset... I would love if they got rid of the 5% fee AND let you freely convert...
Hell, they should just remove AM1, convert them all into AM100, and remove the fee and be done with it... there really is not the liquidity to support both.
That may be a good idea! |
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Lincoln6Echo
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June 23, 2014, 03:56:41 PM |
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The only time Havelock mentions being able to convert AM100 is upon dissolution of the asset... I would love if they got rid of the 5% fee AND let you freely convert...
Hell, they should just remove AM1, convert them all into AM100, and remove the fee and be done with it... there really is not the liquidity to support both.
+1 This is a very good idea! |
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Kyune
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June 23, 2014, 04:01:47 PM |
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Is there a place to find historical price data on Asicminer shares older than its listing on Havelock, for example, old btct.co data or even forum auction trades? Has that been charted or graphed anywhere?
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June 23, 2014, 04:03:16 PM |
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The only time Havelock mentions being able to convert AM100 is upon dissolution of the asset... I would love if they got rid of the 5% fee AND let you freely convert...
Hell, they should just remove AM1, convert them all into AM100, and remove the fee and be done with it... there really is not the liquidity to support both.
That may be a good idea! This has my full support. The environment in which both AM1 and AM100 thrived has now changed over the past year. Having one dedicated investment vehicle for this makes sense, and with the rising value of BTC in fiat terms, I see AM100 as that vehicle. |
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June 23, 2014, 04:12:02 PM |
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Is there a place to find historical price data on Asicminer shares older than its listing on Havelock, for example, old btct.co data or even forum auction trades? Has that been charted or graphed anywhere?
You really don't want to see those data  |
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June 23, 2014, 04:13:43 PM |
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What I had a good idea? Something must be wrong here...
But in all seriousness, the more I think about it the more I like it. I can see no reason to not go through with this change. The only people it would hurt would be people that play arbitrage between the two assets (which I do from time to time), but those people are not really doing useful work... they are just taking advantage of a bad setup.
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June 23, 2014, 05:51:07 PM |
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Progress Update 23 Jun 2014:
Here is a first progress update since the original announcement of DataTank Mining
• We are in discussion with a manufacturer to provide ASIC hardware in return for DataTank capacity. This is an unexpected turn of events, but it may prove to be a very important development...
Is this bad for AM? |
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mc_lovin
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June 23, 2014, 06:02:49 PM |
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Progress Update 23 Jun 2014:
Here is a first progress update since the original announcement of DataTank Mining
• We are in discussion with a manufacturer to provide ASIC hardware in return for DataTank capacity. This is an unexpected turn of events, but it may prove to be a very important development...
Is this bad for AM? It would be a shame if after all the months we've been looking at these immersion cooling setups if they just decided to go elsewhere for chips. |
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June 23, 2014, 06:05:29 PM |
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Progress Update 23 Jun 2014:
Here is a first progress update since the original announcement of DataTank Mining
• We are in discussion with a manufacturer to provide ASIC hardware in return for DataTank capacity. This is an unexpected turn of events, but it may prove to be a very important development...
Is this bad for AM? If that ASIC manufacturer is AM, then its good, since FC is swimming in chips right now. |
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June 23, 2014, 06:12:57 PM |
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Progress Update 23 Jun 2014:
Here is a first progress update since the original announcement of DataTank Mining
• We are in discussion with a manufacturer to provide ASIC hardware in return for DataTank capacity. This is an unexpected turn of events, but it may prove to be a very important development...
Is this bad for AM? If that ASIC manufacturer is AM, then its good, since FC is swimming in chips right now. FTFY. This might prove an important distinction. |
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June 23, 2014, 06:13:39 PM |
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Progress Update 23 Jun 2014:
Here is a first progress update since the original announcement of DataTank Mining
• We are in discussion with a manufacturer to provide ASIC hardware in return for DataTank capacity. This is an unexpected turn of events, but it may prove to be a very important development...
Is this bad for AM? If that ASIC manufacturer is AM, then its good, since FC is swimming in chips right now. free chips for an immersion mine. I .. can't see the business benefits in this, whatsoever. |
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June 23, 2014, 06:15:18 PM |
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Progress Update 23 Jun 2014:
Here is a first progress update since the original announcement of DataTank Mining
• We are in discussion with a manufacturer to provide ASIC hardware in return for DataTank capacity. This is an unexpected turn of events, but it may prove to be a very important development...
Is this bad for AM? If that ASIC manufacturer is AM, then its good, since FC is swimming in chips right now. free chips for an immersion mine. I .. can't see the business benefits in this, whatsoever. Franchised mining |
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mc_lovin
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June 23, 2014, 06:18:54 PM |
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Progress Update 23 Jun 2014:
Here is a first progress update since the original announcement of DataTank Mining
• We are in discussion with a manufacturer to provide ASIC hardware in return for DataTank capacity. This is an unexpected turn of events, but it may prove to be a very important development...
Is this bad for AM? If that ASIC manufacturer is AM, then its good, since FC is swimming in chips right now. free chips for an immersion mine. I .. can't see the business benefits in this, whatsoever. Franchised mining True! Also it could be BTC Garden, Rockminer, etc.. Some other AM-party. |
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June 23, 2014, 06:19:13 PM |
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Progress Update 23 Jun 2014:
Here is a first progress update since the original announcement of DataTank Mining
• We are in discussion with a manufacturer to provide ASIC hardware in return for DataTank capacity. This is an unexpected turn of events, but it may prove to be a very important development...
Is this bad for AM? If that ASIC manufacturer is AM, then its good, since FC is swimming in chips right now. free chips for an immersion mine. I .. can't see the business benefits in this, whatsoever. Franchised mining can you elaborate? I also don't see a franchise in it - I franchise out a portion of one of my businesses, on the basis that the business name draws more business towards the franchise, for this, my franchisee pays me a franchise fee once every ten years - for it to be a franchise, I get paid - albeit payments for the franchising of my business are far and wide, but.. i get paid. whoever are supplying the chips, are not getting paid, so - this is what you see as a franchise? strange. |
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minerpumpkin
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June 23, 2014, 06:26:08 PM |
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Franchised mining
can you elaborate? I also don't see a franchise in it - I franchise out a portion of one of my businesses, on the basis that the business name draws more business towards the franchise, for this, my franchisee pays me a franchise fee once every ten years - for it to be a franchise, I get paid - albeit payments for the franchising of my business are far and wide, but.. i get paid. whoever are supplying the chips, are not getting paid, so - this is what you see as a franchise? strange. It could be the old 80/20 franchised mining model AM did in the past. AM has a lot of chips, they can produce very cheaply. If they provide a certain amount of chips or blades to DataTank for free, they could receive e.g. a certain amount of hashing power from them (mining income). |
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June 23, 2014, 06:27:35 PM |
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as we don't have official PR guy, we can speculate like always : *Maybe* FC has hard times to sell these 60Ph of chips and DataTank has hard times to get money together for buying chips. Perfect match
Also DataTank is talking about DataTank capacity, so it could be just hosted AM farm in DataTank facility.
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