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January 17, 2020, 01:57:31 AM
Merited by tranthidung (1)
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This is my alt  for philipma1957

1956jUdYPFwiBSzt9AECdWj3KE4WV7taiM


I was going to make 1957phil......   for my main account.  I found out  it can't be done  as I can not use i's in a btc address


Someone other then me (philipma1957) please quote this.

TIA

Quoted

Yeah  this is philipma1957  and that has been my alt for years.

I don't message as I don't fell that is proper way to verify and address.


When and if I need to verify    either my address  or judypug1956 address I will place 0.00000xxx btc into the account then withdraw 0.00000xxx btc   which proves I own the address.

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January 17, 2020, 01:59:32 AM
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This is my alt  for philipma1957

1956jUdYPFwiBSzt9AECdWj3KE4WV7taiM


I was going to make 1957phil......   for my main account.  I found out  it can't be done  as I can not use i's in a btc address


Someone other then me (philipma1957) please quote this.

TIA
Please stop kidding. If the post is made by real philipma1957, it will be signed with a better message, right format, and with the address he already signed for his main.




This is good work on your part just happens to be healthy  concern  thanks.  If you want I can put coin into my longtime address

1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje  take it out and move it to my alts address

1956jUdYPFwiBSzt9AECdWj3KE4WV7taiM

then  take it out and move it back to my main address

phil




This is my alt  for philipma1957

1956jUdYPFwiBSzt9AECdWj3KE4WV7taiM


I was going to make 1957phil......   for my main account.  I found out  it can't be done  as I can not use i's in a btc address


Someone other then me (philipma1957) please quote this.

TIA
Please stop kidding. If the post is made by real philipma1957, it will be signed with a better message, right format, and with the address he already signed for his main.

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January 17, 2020, 10:27:16 AM
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This is my alt  for philipma1957

1956jUdYPFwiBSzt9AECdWj3KE4WV7taiM


I was going to make 1957phil......   for my main account.  I found out  it can't be done  as I can not use i's in a btc address


Someone other then me (philipma1957) please quote this.

TIA
Please stop kidding. If the post is made by real philipma1957, it will be signed with a better message, right format, and with the address he already signed for his main.




This is good work on your part just happens to be healthy  concern  thanks.  If you want I can put coin into my longtime address

1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje  take it out and move it to my alts address

1956jUdYPFwiBSzt9AECdWj3KE4WV7taiM

then  take it out and move it back to my main address

phil




This is my alt  for philipma1957

1956jUdYPFwiBSzt9AECdWj3KE4WV7taiM


I was going to make 1957phil......   for my main account.  I found out  it can't be done  as I can not use i's in a btc address


Someone other then me (philipma1957) please quote this.

TIA
Please stop kidding. If the post is made by real philipma1957, it will be signed with a better message, right format, and with the address he already signed for his main.

I'm not sure I'm following this series of posts, however, message quoted and Archived [1], [2] for prosperity.
(...and yes, I did look on the previous page too)

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January 17, 2020, 02:45:36 PM
 #10644

It is pretty simple.

I don't like signing as proof I prefer coin in and coin out as proof of control.

I have 2 accounts

philipma1957  this was staked  to this address back on page 222 of this thread

1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

judypug1956

my alt is staked to this address


1956jUdYPFwiBSzt9AECdWj3KE4WV7taiM

I finally was able to make a nice vanity for my alt .

If I ever need to prove I control either address I will put coin in and out of each address.


I have had a lot of issues with the main account philipma1957

As I have been doxxed with it.
I have been sent nasty pm's.
I have been sent nasty emails.
I get repetitive attacks against it. In hacking attempts.

So I have been posting with the alt more often and decided to stake the alt.  I want people to know it is my alt.
So I am efforting this on this thread.

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January 17, 2020, 02:56:06 PM
 #10645

It is pretty simple.

I don't like signing as proof I prefer coin in and coin out as proof of control.

I have 2 accounts

philipma1957  this was staked  to this address back on page 222 of this thread

1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

judypug1956

my alt is staked to this address


1956jUdYPFwiBSzt9AECdWj3KE4WV7taiM

I finally was able to make a nice vanity for my alt .

If I ever need to prove I control either address I will put coin in and out of each address.


I have had a lot of issues with the main account philipma1957

As I have been doxxed with it.
I have been sent nasty pm's.
I have been sent nasty emails.
I get repetitive attacks against it. In hacking attempts.

So I have been posting with the alt more often and decided to stake the alt.  I want people to know it is my alt.
So I am efforting this on this thread.

There you have it quoted and clear.
Archived here.

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January 17, 2020, 03:56:14 PM
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Code:
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today 01.17.2020, I am a member of the Bitcointalk forum, my nickname is elmanchez.
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here we go Wink
Finally did it ..
wanted to do this for a long time but flew out of my head.

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January 17, 2020, 04:02:39 PM
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Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
today 01.17.2020, I am a member of the Bitcointalk forum, my nickname is elmanchez.
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H3y6a4aimqlSX1c+8YZ6+VoPIAHgepBrRZTLnGbbjMtOHw/qXD3PFrnjhvp9ur8z68Vy+9K8/WOOK5Q+34rQA5A=
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here we go Wink
Finally did it ..
wanted to do this for a long time but flew out of my head.
Outed and verified with brainwalletx

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January 18, 2020, 02:39:10 AM
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It is pretty simple.

I don't like signing as proof I prefer coin in and coin out as proof of control.
I'm curious, what is your perceived difference between signing a message and moving coins to determine "proof of control"? Huh

Both require access to the private keys to be able to "sign" the message or transaction (or the ability to coerce someone who does into doing what you are asking). So I don't see how shifting funds is any more trustworthy than a signed message? Huh

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January 18, 2020, 08:41:12 AM
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I'm curious, what is your perceived difference between signing a message and moving coins to determine "proof of control"? Huh


From where I sit..no difference at all if the wallets have "sign"-message option but some of them don't have it.
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January 19, 2020, 12:43:45 AM
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It is pretty simple.

I don't like signing as proof I prefer coin in and coin out as proof of control.
I'm curious, what is your perceived difference between signing a message and moving coins to determine "proof of control"? Huh

Both require access to the private keys to be able to "sign" the message or transaction (or the ability to coerce someone who does into doing what you are asking). So I don't see how shifting funds is any more trustworthy than a signed message? Huh


the coin-moving is close to equal to a message.


but you don’t need to move the coins until you need to prove control of the address.

less work.

also moving coins for an address should always be doable while message signing can be dropped on some wallets.

my 2 addresses for my accounts are easy to move coins in and out of.

the vanity is good

the older one is good.



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January 19, 2020, 02:32:28 PM
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I'm curious, what is your perceived difference between signing a message and moving coins to determine "proof of control"? ???

Slightly off-topic, but this question evokes a subtly different, easily confusable related point that I think should be discussed elsewhere.  And it’s not entirely OT, insofar as I don’t think it’s uncommon for people on this forum to use messages signed by “stake” addresses to prove ownership of coins (in contradistinction to technical control of coins).

The argument advanced by various Core developers against reliance on signmessage to prove ownership (as opposed to control) of UTXOs is:

Quote from: sipa
Owning money and having access to private keys that can spend coins are independent concepts. Exchanges have private keys for UTXOs money they hold on behalf of their customers. They can clearly sign messages using those keys, but they certainly don't own all those coins.

I respectfully disagree with sipa, luke-jr, and others so stating (and I should probably say so on that issue).  I argue strictly that control of the private keys equals title to the Bitcoin, period; and it is dangerous to blur a rule logically inherent in the nature decentralized, trustless, permissionless cryptographic money.

If you are a custodial exchange, etc., then you may be holding title to that Bitcoin as a nominee, or (quite arguably) a bailee, or some other legal concept which may be logical to apply.  However, account-holders at custodial exchanges are not the titular owners of any Bitcoin at all, in my opinion.  If you don’t have the private keys, then it is not your Bitcoin:  It is somebody else’s Bitcoin; and that somebody else, the titular owner of the Bitcoin, has contractually agreed to let you excercise beneficial ownership of some sort.

So many ills of this world result when ownership is divorced from control.  (Aside, don’t get me started on how the separation of ownership, control, and responsibility is a major factor in the widespread corruption of modern corporations.)  Don’t do that with Bitcoin.

In my analysis, ownership is fully congruent with the use of digital signatures to control money in a decentralized, trustless, permissionless system; and legal agreements outside the four corners of Bitcoin script are properly compartmented where they belong, in the realm of legal contracts and the legal enforcement thereof.

(N.b. that the same argument applies to theft:  A thief who uses wrongful means to obtain title is still holding titular ownership, and will continue to do so unless recovery is effectuated by avoiding the improperly obtained title.  By analogy, consider a criminal who uses forgery, coercion, or fraud in the factum to wrongfully obtain a deed to lands—although that deed would probably be adjudged absolutely void, not merely voidable, whereas a Bitcoin transaction is only absolutely void if a blockchain reorg retroactively invalidates it.)

Of course, the moving of coins is little different than signmessage in this aspect:  A custodial exchange (etc.) can spend UTXOs to its own addresses, just as you can to yours.

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January 21, 2020, 11:12:14 AM
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I'll leave my btc address here for future reference (hopefully I won't need it) 1ZzZzzZGVFtHhyuMg8LqAdLWhYYoGdjtC

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January 21, 2020, 11:58:32 AM
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I'll leave my btc address here for future reference (hopefully I won't need it) 1ZzZzzZGVFtHhyuMg8LqAdLWhYYoGdjtC

Quoted. Maybe you can sign a message from it?

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January 21, 2020, 01:57:59 PM
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Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Bitcointalk : turkandjaydee 21 January 2020
This is my segwit address
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
BTC address: 3PHwD7nLwnjkNiqjeB2XzwUeT2Dvxtw371
Signature: IJKsZsygUpEsCYWQYIBGLawilZN34BRKfJx9R0+L7SaFY/IP0u+/mdL40VXNRh6+kpRtsomOLpaApVNyqYsDn8w=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Please verify and quote, thank you  Smiley
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Last edit: January 21, 2020, 02:40:38 PM by d.kevin29
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-snip

Please verify and quote, thank you  Smiley

The message failed verification on 4 different websites. Are you sure you've signed the message correctly? Please re-verify.

Another user verified it on Electrum and worked apparently. Sorry for the mess.
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January 21, 2020, 02:33:24 PM
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Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Bitcointalk : turkandjaydee 21 January 2020
This is my segwit address
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
BTC address: 3PHwD7nLwnjkNiqjeB2XzwUeT2Dvxtw371
Signature: IJKsZsygUpEsCYWQYIBGLawilZN34BRKfJx9R0+L7SaFY/IP0u+/mdL40VXNRh6+kpRtsomOLpaApVNyqYsDn8w=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Please verify and quote, thank you  Smiley

Quoted, verified with Electrum.
Archived.


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January 22, 2020, 07:40:23 AM
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My ol' noggin can't seem to figure this out
Is that a request for help? If so, have you read shorena's thread on how to sign a message? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0


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January 22, 2020, 08:27:22 AM
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Is that a request for help? If so, have you read shorena's thread on how to sign a message? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0
That user is a BSV shill, what else do you expect from him? Grin

 
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January 23, 2020, 02:45:26 PM
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Now 4 times I have tried this--can someone help me??

Have you followed the instructions here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0

What wallet you are using to sign a message?

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January 23, 2020, 03:01:01 PM
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Now 4 times I have tried this--can someone help me??

Have you followed the instructions here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0

What wallet you are using to sign a message?

unocoin--are you familiar??
after some quick googling it seems unocoin is an exchange....

You can't sign a message with unocoin as it is a custodial wallet (exchange rather), meaning you don't have access to your keys.

You need to switch to a wallet such as Electrum in order to sign a message, as you need access to your private keys..

Once you have a wallet such as Electrum, you can follow this guide: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0

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