odolvlobo
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May 23, 2021, 10:21:41 PM Last edit: May 23, 2021, 10:51:28 PM by odolvlobo |
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EDIT2: @odolvlobo is that a typo? two <new bitcoin address> in the signed message? One of them should be the <old bitcoin address>, you might want to check it, I will eventually delete this edit.
The new address needs to be signed with the old address. Nesting may be sufficient, but I was explicitly stating that the new address is also valid. I guess this would be sufficient: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Today is <date>.
- -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Today is <date>. I control the account with the user name, <user name>. Signing a message with the private key for the bitcoin address, <new bitcoin address>, is sufficient proof of my identity with respect to this account. - -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- <new bitcoin address> <signature> - -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- <old bitcoin address> <signature> -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Edit: nested signatures work if the signing software modifies markers of the interior message as above.
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snipie
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May 23, 2021, 10:27:33 PM |
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Mr X has stacked bitcoin address 1 here years ago for example. Mr X wants to add address 2 without signing a message with address 1, it is ok, he is free. Now when it comes to recovering his hacked account, he has to sign with the first stacked address. Now if he posted address 2 + signed a message with address 1 + asked to not consider addy 1 to belong to him anymore, then in case of hack, address 2 will be used to recover the account. The spirit of this topic is to stake 1 bitcoin address for recovering purposes. I don't see the point for staking another unless it will replace it. Normally the guy staking a 2nd address should be able to provide a signed message whenever asked to prove he is the real owner. Posting an address here even if it is years old without signing the older one won't make it as important as the first one.
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LoyceV
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May 24, 2021, 02:09:33 PM Last edit: May 24, 2021, 03:09:37 PM by LoyceV |
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There might have two cases for signing with a new address without proofing the sign of old address. 1. the owner of the address lost access of old address/private key. Didn't know that need to proof by his/her old address first. This made me curious how many posts have been deleted from this topic. I don't have full data on the oldest posts on this topic, but I do have the newest posts. I've temporarily adjusted LoyceV's Topic Details: highlight deleted and edited posts (forum wide) to scrape more than 250 pages. See: ** Please don't quote this link, it will trigger scraping 250 pages again **https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_996318_2021-05-24_Mon_16.07h.html (6 MB) ** Please don't quote this link, it will trigger scraping 250 pages again **(CTRL-F "Deleted!")
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adriaparcerisas
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May 25, 2021, 01:55:31 PM |
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Hello, I think I succeeded! Please, can you verify it? Thank you! -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Today is May, 25th 2021. I control the account with the user name, adriaparcerisas. Signing a message with private key for the bitcoin address, 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN, is sufficient proof of my identity with respect to this account. -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN HMeJRAprme/V+P1ianEJ8rEBKeVLNjMNffKglj8ftzOQ1QrlqctXAaZ+FPSvwLoMDffdWkLMoVsgYOxgCfALP7c= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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Xal0lex
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May 25, 2021, 02:36:42 PM |
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Hello, I think I succeeded! Please, can you verify it? Thank you! -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Today is May, 25th 2021. I control the account with the user name, adriaparcerisas. Signing a message with private key for the bitcoin address, 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN, is sufficient proof of my identity with respect to this account. -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN HMeJRAprme/V+P1ianEJ8rEBKeVLNjMNffKglj8ftzOQ1QrlqctXAaZ+FPSvwLoMDffdWkLMoVsgYOxgCfALP7c= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Quoted and verified.
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jamyr
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May 25, 2021, 02:57:35 PM Last edit: May 25, 2021, 03:10:14 PM by jamyr |
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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- "This is jamyr from bitcointalk, would like to stake this address. Today is 5/25/2021" -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- bc1qjuruw650aqp0le6cq2v8yh7ur6pvujxsf4es02 IFY+lFklLIxdEP+ZexhCL/o+WToKCMUULBA6CaLx6AHkDj1lmab4uvBRFTRSLrIHgYNSsjQvOnSVFyDOvHBcZa4= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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HCP
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May 25, 2021, 08:27:28 PM Last edit: November 14, 2023, 11:49:17 PM by HCP |
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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- "This is jamyr from bitcointalk, would like to stake this address. Today is 5/25/2021" -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- bc1qjuruw650aqp0le6cq2v8yh7ur6pvujxsf4es02 IFY+lFklLIxdEP+ZexhCL/o+WToKCMUULBA6CaLx6AHkDj1lmab4uvBRFTRSLrIHgYNSsjQvOnSVFyDOvHBcZa4= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Quoted and verified with Electrum: 
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LoyceV
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May 25, 2021, 08:35:36 PM |
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"This is jamyr from bitcointalk, would like to stake this address. Today is 5/25/2021" bc1qjuruw650aqp0le6cq2v8yh7ur6pvujxsf4es02 Any chance you can confirm this new address by signing from your old address? 1JAMYRoaPiqK4PStwMpKyWH3S5x6DvHRM
This other address is a blockchain.info address.
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BlackHatCoiner
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May 25, 2021, 08:55:05 PM Last edit: June 17, 2021, 06:51:50 AM by BlackHatCoiner |
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What if my account gets hacked and the new owner stack a new address? If your account got hacked and staked a new address, the hacker would be asked to sign a message from your old address. The above post is an example of what I'm talking about.
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jamyr
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May 26, 2021, 01:55:18 AM |
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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- "This is jamyr from bitcointalk, would like to stake this address. Today is 5/25/2021" -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- bc1qjuruw650aqp0le6cq2v8yh7ur6pvujxsf4es02 IFY+lFklLIxdEP+ZexhCL/o+WToKCMUULBA6CaLx6AHkDj1lmab4uvBRFTRSLrIHgYNSsjQvOnSVFyDOvHBcZa4= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Quoted and verified with Electrum:  Thank you. "This is jamyr from bitcointalk, would like to stake this address. Today is 5/25/2021" bc1qjuruw650aqp0le6cq2v8yh7ur6pvujxsf4es02 Any chance you can confirm this new address by signing from your old address? 1JAMYRoaPiqK4PStwMpKyWH3S5x6DvHRM
This other address is a blockchain.info address. Address: 1JAMYRoaPiqK4PStwMpKyWH3S5x6DvHRM Message: "this is jamyr from bitcointalk and today is 05/26 may the best pizza win" G+Dui+4ZzfwRbgSn3AMrZRKZvumgnAO4uMX9xo+qptkYJFc2kuhBOr62aDb9Es/L243TR4/13twE/e3ao2q6UXw=
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snipie
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May 26, 2021, 03:14:52 PM |
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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- "This is jamyr from bitcointalk, would like to stake this address. Today is 5/25/2021" -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- bc1qjuruw650aqp0le6cq2v8yh7ur6pvujxsf4es02 IFY+lFklLIxdEP+ZexhCL/o+WToKCMUULBA6CaLx6AHkDj1lmab4uvBRFTRSLrIHgYNSsjQvOnSVFyDOvHBcZa4= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Quoted and verified with Electrum:  Thank you. "This is jamyr from bitcointalk, would like to stake this address. Today is 5/25/2021" bc1qjuruw650aqp0le6cq2v8yh7ur6pvujxsf4es02 Any chance you can confirm this new address by signing from your old address? 1JAMYRoaPiqK4PStwMpKyWH3S5x6DvHRM
This other address is a blockchain.info address. Address: 1JAMYRoaPiqK4PStwMpKyWH3S5x6DvHRM Message: "this is jamyr from bitcointalk and today is 05/26 may the best pizza win" G+Dui+4ZzfwRbgSn3AMrZRKZvumgnAO4uMX9xo+qptkYJFc2kuhBOr62aDb9Es/L243TR4/13twE/e3ao2q6UXw= Old bitcoin address is verified. The newer one was already verified by HCP. Quoted both for future reference.
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LoyceV
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Activity: 4102
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
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Hello, I think I succeeded! Please, can you verify it? Thank you! -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Today is May, 25th 2021. I control the account with the user name, adriaparcerisas. Signing a message with private key for the bitcoin address, 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN, is sufficient proof of my identity with respect to this account. -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN HMeJRAprme/V+P1ianEJ8rEBKeVLNjMNffKglj8ftzOQ1QrlqctXAaZ+FPSvwLoMDffdWkLMoVsgYOxgCfALP7c= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Your post popped up here, because the address you signed with is brainwalletx.github.io's demo address. Let me try mine: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- This isn't adriaparcerisas's address, it's private key is 5KYZdUEo39z3FPrtuX2QbbwGnNP5zTd7yyr2SC1j299sBCnWjss so anyone can use it to sign a message! Also: DO NOT enter your private key on any website to sign a message! If you do that, your private key is compromised. -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN HHQGALEoHhUiXkhb86J/4ifyyE2QWqHNauCFy4guqaVfh+MvLL1bafo4MuuLkTaEE8o6J4dOmAtY8EzKJ8qAe1s= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- You should sign a message from a wallet that you and only you control. You can for example install Electrum.
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odolvlobo
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Hello, I think I succeeded! Please, can you verify it? Thank you! -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Today is May, 25th 2021. I control the account with the user name, adriaparcerisas. Signing a message with private key for the bitcoin address, 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN, is sufficient proof of my identity with respect to this account. -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN HMeJRAprme/V+P1ianEJ8rEBKeVLNjMNffKglj8ftzOQ1QrlqctXAaZ+FPSvwLoMDffdWkLMoVsgYOxgCfALP7c= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Your post popped up here, because the address you signed with is brainwalletx.github.io's demo address. Odd. I wonder why adriaparcerisas would do that. It allows anyone to claim that the account was hacked and prove that they are the real owner of the account.
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LoyceV
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May 27, 2021, 08:52:57 PM |
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I wonder why adriaparcerisas would do that. It allows anyone to claim that the account was hacked and prove that they are the real owner of the account. He's not the only one, see NInjastic Space.
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HCP
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May 27, 2021, 09:33:29 PM |
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Odd. I wonder why adriaparcerisas would do that. It allows anyone to claim that the account was hacked and prove that they are the real owner of the account.
Because people are blindly following instructions without actually understanding exactly what it is they are doing... or why they are doing it. This often leads to people copy/pasting commands verbatim, ignoring "hints" like YOUR_PASSPHRASE_GOES_HERE etc... or leaving default values in web forms etc. 
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I would have quoted someone as per the convention at the top of the thread - , but it seems they are all quoted at the moment  Here is mine (from a previous thread) -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Today is Tuesday June 8th 2021. I am GeekWisdom and i own this address. Thanks to shorena for the tutorial -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1Apqmd4bQBaazqvRPA4Si8LzLvGjRaf3bQ IErW5+wRkq+i2ZU8v1XuBrZ1us5N/gUJBhUzWd2jIhIfcwPaxswMLpAIs7RA+6kimwKNqcc60bvcoVDvd2WABkc= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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That is most of it, being a wizard - seeing and listening. The rest is technique - Schmedrick the magician, The Last Unicorn - GeekWisdom.org
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Xal0lex
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I would have quoted someone as per the convention at the top of the thread - , but it seems they are all quoted at the moment  Here is mine (from a previous thread) -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Today is Tuesday June 8th 2021. I am GeekWisdom and i own this address. Thanks to shorena for the tutorial -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1Apqmd4bQBaazqvRPA4Si8LzLvGjRaf3bQ IErW5+wRkq+i2ZU8v1XuBrZ1us5N/gUJBhUzWd2jIhIfcwPaxswMLpAIs7RA+6kimwKNqcc60bvcoVDvd2WABkc= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Quoted and verified.
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Lordhermes
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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- My name is Lordhermes, I am the really owner of this account with this bitcoin address. -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0) Address: bc1qkr6f4y5egy35e0w5532jnxzgppgcqx93j6u5z4
IICYiZik9alCmx5LfN3/CdtJIkkUKGlPTr2+jMyh67iOYLKyNE5I9DuCrBZhNqo0KgAPOuVAoKvMQPsMKfoysnA= -----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- Please verify, thanks.
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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- My name is Lordhermes, I am the really owner of this account with this bitcoin address. -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0) Address: bc1qkr6f4y5egy35e0w5532jnxzgppgcqx93j6u5z4
IICYiZik9alCmx5LfN3/CdtJIkkUKGlPTr2+jMyh67iOYLKyNE5I9DuCrBZhNqo0KgAPOuVAoKvMQPsMKfoysnA= -----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- Please verify, thanks. Hi Lordhermes, I cannot verify your message on brainwallet it just says 'message failed to verify'. I tried a very other verify services, same error. I had this problem with mine when I used the SegWit address and NOT the legacy address. The legacy address worked fine. It seems the services do not work to verify SegWit, I'm not sure why
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Lordhermes
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June 10, 2021, 02:39:49 AM |
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Hi Lordhermes, I cannot verify your message on brainwallet it just says 'message failed to verify'. I tried a very other verify services, same error.
I had this problem with mine when I used the SegWit address and NOT the legacy address. The legacy address worked fine. It seems the services do not work to verify SegWit, I'm not sure why
Hey mate, the signed message is from mycelium wallet which is correct, please use mycelium wallet if those other wallets could not verify successfully. Can anyone here please verify my message?
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