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1121  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Account gehackt - mal schauen, ob ich es wieder bekomme on: July 03, 2023, 11:16:51 PM
Ihr müsst eben auch die andere Sichtweise in Betracht ziehen, dass möglicherweise ein rechtmäßiger Eigentümer so um seinen Account gebracht werden könnte. Ich unterstelle dem Kollegen hier keinesfalls etwas aber Regeln gelten eben für alle und ich nehme an, dass man ihm eine längere Zeit gewährt hat um sich rechtfertigen zu können.
Der Fall ist doch extremst eindeutig, dass der Account nur dazu verkauft wurde, nur um wertvolles BTC durch Signaturen abzugreifen.
Die Auffälligkeiten:
- 2,5 Jahre Pause ohne einen Beitrag.
- Direkt nach dieser Pause wacht der Account wieder auf und wird direkt in einer Signaturkampagne ausgerollt.
- Nach dieser Pause nie mehr einen Beitrag im deutschen Forumsbereich geschrieben, weil der neue Besitzer kein Deutsch kann.
- Keine Stellungnahme des neuen Besitzers, als er kürzlich negativen Trust bekommen hatte. Er weiß ja schon, dass er enttarnt wurde.
Viel deutlicher wird das nicht mehr.

Und Atrax kann durch Signatur der BTC-Adresse belegen, dass er definitiv der legitime Eigentümer ist, was er ja auch getan hat. 
Da sehen die Verantwortlichen mal wieder richtig schlecht aus, dass das so lange dauert...
1122  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Die Default Trust wurde geändert ! on: July 03, 2023, 10:59:15 PM
Es gibt diesmal insgesamt 126 DT1-Mitglieder:
Das ist so nicht richtig es gibt keine 126 Default Trust 1 Mitglieder.
Entschuldigung, hatte ich falsch von letzt kopiert.
Klar, es kann nur immer 100 DT1-Mitglieder geben, welche aus der Gesamtmenge der potentiell berechtigten Nutzer zustande kommt.
Die potentiell berechtigte Gesamtemenge waren diesmal 126 Nutzer.

Habe ich oben editiert.  Smiley
1123  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Die Default Trust wurde geändert ! on: July 03, 2023, 08:39:20 PM
Gerade wurden die Änderungen am Default Trust (DT) für den Monat Juli 2023 bekanntgegeben: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117330.msg62499347#msg62499347
Es waren diesmal 126 Nutzer berechtigt, wovon es 100 letzendlich in DT1 geschafft haben:

Alte DT1-Mitglieder:

Code:
theymos
qwk
vapourminer
mprep
Foxpup
babo
Cyrus
ibminer
wwzsocki
jeremypwr
gbianchi
EFS
dbshck
stompix
buckrogers
Buchi-88
Lesbian Cow
JayJuanGee
NeuroticFish
achow101
DaveF
examplens
nutildah
minerjones
sapta
irfan_pak10
yahoo62278
bitbollo
LFC_Bitcoin
o_solo_miner
Real-Duke
klarki
LoyceV
actmyname
LeGaulois
SFR10
TwitchySeal
TryNinja
Jet Cash
tweetious
Yatsan
buwaytress
crwth
webtricks
Ale88
duesoldi
Kryptowerk
bobita
Vispilio
Baofeng
imhoneer
krogothmanhattan
wolwoo
JollyGood
RaltcoinsB
Igebotz
El duderino_
Best_Change
KTChampions
Coin-1
bavicrypto
GreatArkansas
dragonvslinux
sheenshane
o_e_l_e_o
JeromeTash
3meek
logfiles
joniboini
masulum
GazetaBitcoin
TheBeardedBaby
tvplus006
coinlocket$
witcher_sense
bitmover
DdmrDdmr
Lakai01
morvillz7z
Husna QA
Bthd
fillippone
cryptofrka
abhiseshakana
The Cryptovator
lovesmayfamilis
1miau
The0ldl_lser
YOSHIE
efialtis
Ratimov
geophphreigh
Rikafip
Lachrymose
FatFork
NotATether
Stalker22
bullrun2020bro
BlackHatCoiner
MrCryptHodl




Neue DT1-Mitglieder:

Code:
theymos
gmaxwell
OgNasty
vapourminer
fronti
mprep
Foxpup
philipma1957
babo
Cyrus
ibminer
Mitchell
wwzsocki
gbianchi
EFS
dbshck
stompix
hilariousandco
Avirunes
buckrogers
willi9974
JayJuanGee
NeuroticFish
achow101
DaveF
examplens
nutildah
minerjones
irfan_pak10
BitcoinPenny
yahoo62278
bitbollo
zazarb
LFC_Bitcoin
sandy-is-fine
klarki
LoyceV
LeGaulois
TwitchySeal
BitcoinGirl.Club
Jet Cash
holydarkness
Lafu
Coin_trader
tweetious
HCP
comit
Ale88
duesoldi
Kryptowerk
bobita
Baofeng
imhoneer
krogothmanhattan
JollyGood
RaltcoinsB
Igebotz
CryptopreneurBrainboss
hugeblack
El duderino_
KTChampions
Trofo
Coin-1
icopress
bavicrypto
dragonvslinux
sheenshane
o_e_l_e_o
logfiles
joniboini
masulum
Agrawas
GazetaBitcoin
Maus0728
tvplus006
coinlocket$
mole0815
witcher_sense
bitmover
DdmrDdmr
shahzadafzal
Lakai01
morvillz7z
Husna QA
cryptofrka
madnessteat
lovesmayfamilis
DireWolfM14
1miau
YOSHIE
Ratimov
geophphreigh
zasad@
Rikafip
Lachrymose
FatFork
NotATether
bullrun2020bro
decodx
n0nce

Aus unserem lokalen Bereich dabei sind: fronti, willi9974, Lafu, Kryptowerk, mole0815, Lakai01, 1miau und bullrun2020bro


Die Liste von LoyceV dürfte demnächst publiziert werden.  Smiley

1124  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten??? on: July 03, 2023, 07:57:49 PM
Denke meine Statistik kann sich durchaus sehen lassen, allerdings weiß ich nicht ob das wieder ein NoGo wäre, weil ich aktuelle ja offensichtlich die Vorraussetzungen nicht erfülle (also wohl nicht mal die Signatur tragen könnte) und sich wohl kein Kampagnenmanager die Mühe macht 2 Monate voraus zu planen.

Also was sagt ihr? Würde das meine Chancen auf einen Platz eher steigern oder senken?  Huh    
Wenn man sich ähnliche Fälle aus der Vergangenheit anschaut, erreichen solche Reservierungen in der Regel eher das Gegenteil. Also, dass man negativ auffällt, während sich alle anderen Teilnehmer ja regulär bewerben.
Und solche Reservierungen erreichen selbst im Optimalfall nichts: denn der Anbieter müsste dafür einen Platz freihalten, was jedoch eher nicht passieren wird, denn es wird direkt mit allen beim Kampagnenmanager bestellten Teilnehmern aufgefüllt. Bei einer Reservierung müsste der Kampagnenmanager dann nach x Woche einen anderen Teilnehmer rauswerfen oder einen neuen Platz vergeben, was der Anbieter genehmigen müsste.
Eine Reservierung ist daher sehr unwahrscheinlich, weil es den Prozess eines Kampagnenmanagers eher stört.
Neue Bewerbungen sind nicht umsonst ungerne gesehen, wenn die Kampagne aktuell keine neuen Teilnehmer aufnimmt. Sonst würde sich dort laufend jemand mit Reservierungen für in Zukunft neu ausgeschriebene Plätze bewerben.
Das würde rasch aus dem Ruder laufen.
Schlimmstenfalls landet man beim Kampagnenmanager auf einer Liste von Leuten, die negativ vorgemerkt werden. Manche Kampagnenmanager haben da Listen.
Also viel Potential nach unten, wenig nach oben.

Ich denke auch, dass in der Zukunft noch weitere gute Möglichkeiten folgen werden, um viel wertvolles BTC zu sammeln. Wichtig ist, dass man weiter gute Beiträge schreibt, z.B. wie in den 1miau Merit-Kriterien zusammengefasst und z.B. lesenswerte neue Fäden erstellt etc..  Smiley
Also wirst du auch in Zukunft weitere gute Chancen bekommen.  Smiley
1125  Other / Meta / Re: Self-moderated topics - nice feature or should it get banned? on: July 03, 2023, 06:09:37 PM
Anything that can reduce the number of crappy posts and spam should be welcomed on our forum. Those who advocate in favor of spam and shitposting are militating against the general interest of the forum.
Exactly that, I couldn't have said it any better.
We should always remember that services will advertise here because Bitcointalk is a well visited online place and being a well visited online place is achieved by high quality content. Like tutorials about Bitcoin, educated developers answering questions and giving insights etc.
On the contrary, spam is very harmful because (most) educated members don't want to read spam walls.
There are many crypto related online forums out there, where paid shitposting and low quality spam has turned establieshed members away and / or new members are not interested to sign up there because it's so spammy.
And Services
So, unironically, shitposters are destroying their own source of BTC.  Cheesy
+1 for your comment.




Whereas you come up with the idea of banning self moderated posts. Why?
Looks like you did not read my OP because I'm not the one who suggested to ban self-moderation. Unknown01 suggested to ban self-moderation. I'm in favor of self-moderation because it helps a lot, like combatting spam. In some sections, spam is a big issue and self-moderation can help to keep our own topic clean.

I have read your OP and I feel you are suggesting it.
Maybe your feeling is a little bit wrong today because in case you've read that and you were capable to understand what I've written there, then you would have noticed, that your claim is completely wrong.
I'm suggesting this nowhere, that self-moderation should get banned.



The topic is nice feature or should it get banned?. In the end again on the pretext of asking a question you are suggesting it So, what's your opinion? Self-moderation to get banned or to stay?
Once again, I'm suggesting this nowhere, that self-moderation should get banned.  Roll Eyes
Obviously, you are not capable to read or understand my OP.
So, very slowly and only for you some quotes, what's my opinion on the topic:

In my opinion, self-moderated topics are a great feature of Bitcointalk for many reasons, for example:
...
(I'm even mentioning reasons for that...)

There are much more probably. The forum is very big and self-moderation is a great feature.


I'm completely against what Unknown01 suggested because self-moderation is vital in my opinion. We should not ban it.
Removing this feature would be insanely sad and affect the forum very negatively in my opinion.

So, you can see: I've written it multiple times, what's my opinion on the issue.  



The member, who suggested to ban self-moderation, is Unknown01:

In addition, Unknown01 alleged that:

By the way, I would be in favor of banning self-moderated topics and if you don't like the community here, please leave our board.
And yes, Unknown01 is also not capable of reading properly...



So, stop embarrassing yourself, that I would have "suggested" banning self-moderation. I'm opposed of banning it.

The only thing I'm asking in the poll is what Bitcointalk's public opinion on this is. It's a simple question and I've made my opinion quite clear in my OP, that I'm in favor of self-moderation.
After re-reading my OP, it's quite an achivement from you to get it that wrong, since your post is littered with numerous false claims.



Stop suggesting and start questioning!
I've not suggested anything, dude.
Your false claims don't get more accurate if you repeat them 5 times.  Roll Eyes

The only thing what needs to stop is people like you who are not capable of reading and despite that, you are still having the boldness to reply here twice (!) to show that you've not understand anything from my OP, even after Nestade and myself pointed it out to you, that your claims are wrong...



I do not understand the reason for creating this thread.

I have already told you to add him/her to your ignore list, rather than creating such a meaningless thread because of a personal dispute.
That's not your business who's on my ignore list. I have no problem at all to call out liars, shitposters and spammers when I'm coming over one.  Wink



BTW, I would not appreciate anyone coming on my self-moderated thread and start giving me advice about spam and lolololo.
If you do not like it stay away from a self-moderated thread.
I agree to your point. But that's exactly what Unknown01 did. He spammed in my topic, violated my rules and got butthurt because his posts got deleted. I even gave him an option to post it again after he will edit the rule-violations.

There is enough spam happening on every board and thread that are not self-moderated.  
True, Sherlock.






Regarding our suvey: it's quite clear that our community is in favor of keeping self-moderated topics:



That's also what I've voted for and expected.  Smiley
1126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: July 02, 2023, 08:35:30 PM
Once again my loyalty towards Oscar doesn't pay off  and I've lost my bets but I still trust him and I still think that he will find a way during this season to get important points or who knows , maybe even having a podium out of nowhere but today the luck really passed him and it's well known for not having great starts but he is well known for making almost 0 mistakes and also have a strong race pace.
I really don't know what happened to Piastri, he seemed to have a bad first half of the race and couldn't recover after that. After all, updates are looking great for McLaren and next race, Piastri will have the updates from Norris as well, so maybe we can get a good result from McLaren in Silverstone.  Smiley



Was an easy call to the podium for Perez, their car is just insane and in this track with 3 DRS (while DRS is the strongest point of RBR) was quite easy to achieve.
Perez had an amazing performance today after getting criticized for previous races.
So, in general it's still a very unexpected podium but today, everything went well for Perez making that podium possible: good race pace, good strategy where he stayed out longer and especially a weak performance from Mercedes. Hamilton didn't seemed happy at all.
But I'm still hapy for Perez getting such a great achievement done after his recent disappointing performances despite losing my bet, which is very unexpected after an excellent performance from Perez today.



CLS63 and 1miau win the Yellow Cap for the Austrian GP that just finished
Many thanks for the congratulations but I'm not sure if the results on Superbru are arealdy final because some penalties have been applied to Sainz and Hamilton after the race. Positions might change a bit and from what I've checked, Superbru hasn't updated new results yet.

1127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: July 02, 2023, 12:53:34 PM
That's what I'm hoping for today CLS! McLaren can show some big potential and great race pace today and my guess is that Piastri will have the best race in his F1 so far and already took a bet with him winning group 3 against Albon , Gasly and Ocon with a total of x11 odds.

I'm also thinking right now to place a bet with McLaren @both cars to finish in points at x4 odds because I do have faith in them today especially on this track.
I agree, your bets really look like great value bets. Lando likes Austria but had a lot of bad luck in Sprint yesterday, where he lost many positions during RedBull's incident. I expect him to do much better today. McLaren  looks strong here, so maybe you can win at least one of your bets.
Good luck of course, it'll be an interesting race hopefully.  Smiley



McLaren's upgrade has really worked and they are getting better in time. Norris is of course benefiting from the situation a lot. Qualifying session went great for him as he will start in 4th place. But the problem is that McLaren still can't reflect this development onto the race exactly yet. For example he started in 3rd place to the Spanish GP but the end of the race was horrible for him.
Spain was very unfortunate for Lando, where he got damage on his car in the first corner and had to make a pit stop.
Maybe if he doesn't get damage early in the race, he could have scored nice points.

Lando really had some bad luck recently, also yesterday in Sprint race...
1128  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: Zu viel Denglisch im deutschsprachigen Forumsbereich (unmoderiert) on: July 02, 2023, 12:41:32 PM
Dann muss es uns ja alle super gut gehen, wenn wir sonst keine Probleme haben
Das Problem ist doch eher, dass es für manche Forumsteilnehmer zu viel verlangt ist, zusätzliche 30 Sekunden pro Beitrag zu investieren um etwaige Rechtschreibfehler oder auch Denglisch auszubessern. Wobei beides direkt beim Abtippen vermieden werden kann, wenn man sich ein bisschen Mühe gibt.
Fehler passieren aber man sollte bemüht sein, diese zu vermeiden und auszubessern, wenn sie einem auffallen.  Smiley
Dann ist alles bestens.

Bin dann mal weg und kümmere mich um schönere Sachen im Leben --> Raus ein paar Dosen suchen (Gecachen) und etwas für die Gesundheit machen. Bewegung, damit man im Alter nicht einrostet.
Vielleicht findest du auch ein paar Rosen.  Smiley
1129  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🦊 Betnomi.com | Sportsbook & Casino 🎲⚽ on: July 02, 2023, 01:55:01 AM
I've placed my last bet 2 weeks ago on Betnomi, same amount, similar odds and didn't had any problems. Is it just a temporary problem or is Betnomi doing maintenance?
Did you try withdrawing coins from Betnomi website?
No and I've just 24$ there currently after wasting all my deposits and free bets.  Cheesy



Everybody has this problem. It looks to me that they didn't pay their odds provider in time and they have been blocked by their own provider since a couple days. Or possibly they are switching odds providers.
In the mean time I am already waiting for 15 days on my pending withdrawal on my fully verified account.
Yeah, your explanation makes sense, of course.
Sounds like a bigger issue...
1130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: July 01, 2023, 11:37:15 PM
1.8 on that is really value bet, maybe it will not pass, but odds should be 1.6 or even lower for NO, 1.8 looks as a gift, or bookies know something that we don't know
Maybe bookmakers expected Perez to be a bit better, at least close to Max because today, we have seen how impressive Red Bull can perform (but only Max). Perez still managed to score 2nd place in Sprint race but Verstappen had a huge lead, over 20 seconds, while Sainz was still close behind Perez. Perez didn't manage to create a gap to Sainz, so overtaking for him in traffic tomorrow will be difficult. Maybe we'll get some rain and Perez can make up more places by a chaotic race but right now, it's looking dry for tomorrow.

At least, we had a fantastic sprint race today. Amazing performance from Hulkenberg one more lap and he gains even more positions but still great result for him.

And yes, I agree, odds of 1.60 are more reasonable, maybe even 1.50.
Now, after Sprint race, odds are down to 1.52:



Still very good odds in my opinion because I don't see Perez making a podium here and then, there's always a possibility for a Verstappen DNF due to a collission or technical issues.



Perez can easily get a podium here.
Perez is in a RedBull but he's not Verstappen.  Cheesy
So far, Perez never has achieved a podium this season, when he started outside of the top 10:
Canada = started P12, finished P6
Spain = started P11, finished P4
Monaco = started P20, finished P16
Australia = started P20, finished P5

So, I don't expect an easy podium for him in Austria.
He will need a really god performance and a bit luck to achieve a podium here.

The best strategy for him is to start with the hard tires, wait until is possible, and then when the time comes and the others already did a pit (or a safety car come), change his tires and be aggress to the others.
It's probably his best chance but he also needs to get some early overtakes or he's stuck behind midfielders while Ferrari, Aston Martin and Mercedes will pull a gap quickly. Without Safety Car or red flag, it'll be very unlikely to get past P5.

The wheater will be sun according to google so he just needs to stay on track to be able to recover.
And overtake.  Wink



Well, it seems like you've analyzed the situation thoroughly and have a clear opinion on Sergio Perez's chances. Betting odds can be quite intriguing, and sometimes they do make you wonder if the bookies know something we don't. But hey, in Formula One, anything can happen, so let's see if Perez surprises us all and makes a miraculous climb up the ranks.
Yes, I've still Perez on Superbru on podium, not sure if changing it is a good move but I'll decide tomorrow, if changing picks is a good idea or not.



Starting from P15, it'll be a hard race for him once again and when having a look how he has performed recently, I've decided to make a bet because I beleive, RedBull won't be able to get a double podium here: 

I think it is quite a sensible bet to make. Perez is really unstable here as well. He seemed way better in the sprint race today though but this is still not changing the fact that he is starting from way back of the grid. It is too difficult for him to climb until reaching podium. Even if they get very close to it I don't think he would comfortably overtake a Ferrari driver.
+1
I can agree here 100%. Today, Perenz finished 2nd but he also started 2nd.
Despite having clean air and no spray due to rain (Verstappen was way ahead of him), Perez struggled to create a gap to Sainz. I just can't see how he's fast enough to overtake 11 cars tomorrow, unless no big crash happens, where for example both Ferraris and Hamilton are involved in. Instead of a Perez podium, a Perez disappointment seems to be more likely.  Lips sealed
Austria doesn't seem to be a track, Perez likes to drive at.
1131  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🦊 Betnomi.com | Sportsbook & Casino 🎲⚽ on: July 01, 2023, 10:49:38 PM
Hello dear Betnomi team  Smiley


Today, I wanted to place a bet for tomorrows Formula 1 race. Not much money, not big odds, just normal as usual.
But I've got an error:



Tried on soccer as well, same error.  Roll Eyes
I don't want any partner, I just want to place my 20 USD bet...

I've placed my last bet 2 weeks ago on Betnomi, same amount, similar odds and didn't had any problems. Is it just a temporary problem or is Betnomi doing maintenance?
Would be nice to get more information on this issue.

I'll try tomorrow again to place a bet and report if this issue still exists.

In addition, it would be nice if you could disable this horrible sign-up confirmation mail, where we have to log in into our mail account every time to confirm our logins. It always takes me 5 minutes to log in into Betnomi...
1132  Other / Meta / Re: Self-moderated topics - nice feature or should it get banned? on: July 01, 2023, 04:39:19 PM
Whereas you come up with the idea of banning self moderated posts. Why?
Looks like you did not read my OP because I'm not the one who suggested to ban self-moderation. Unknown01 suggested to ban self-moderation. I'm in favor of self-moderation because it helps a lot, like combatting spam. In some sections, spam is a big issue and self-moderation can help to keep our own topic clean.

I do not understand the reason for creating this thread.
It's not allowed to ask for other people's views + additional arguments why self-moderation is useful?
And I've added a poll to ask for the public opinion.



But at least can be traceable through the archive tools.
Exactly that. Any abuse can be proven easily by checking these archive tools.  Smiley
1133  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Aktuelle Gewinnspiele im Forum on: July 01, 2023, 11:00:40 AM
Es gibt zwei neue Gewinnspiele, bei denen man wertvolles BTC gewinnen kann:

Link: Gewinnspiel: (neues?) Bitcoin Allzeithoch im Jahr 2023
Veranstalter: 1miau
Gewinn: 1. Platz: 1 mBTC, 2. Platz 0,25 mBTC
Aufgabe: Den höchsten Bitcoin-Preis des Jahres 2023 erraten.
Teilnahmeschluss: 14.07.2023, 23:59:59


Link: Gewinnspiel: Neues Bitcoin (Jahres-)Tief in 2023 ?
Veranstalter: Turbartuluk
Gewinn: 1. Platz: 1 mBTC, 2. Platz 0,5 mBTC, 3. Platz 0,25 mBTC
Aufgabe: Den niedrigsten Bitcoin-Preis des Jahres 2023 erraten (ab Start des Gewinnspiels).
Teilnahmeschluss: bis der Bitcoin-Preis unter 28.000 USD fällt

Beide Gewinnspiele sind ebenfalls im ersten Beitrag ergänzt.  Smiley
1134  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: Zu viel Denglisch im deutschsprachigen Forumsbereich (unmoderiert) on: July 01, 2023, 10:52:58 AM
Folgende Personen sehen ein Denglisch Problem und befürworten Aktionen dagegen:

1) Troll Boss (1miau)
2) GazetaBitcoin (Kein aktives Mitglied im deutschen Bereich aber auch die Meinungen aus anderen lokalen Bereichen sind in Ordnung Smiley)
3) Troll Gehilfe (Nestade)
Mittlerweile könnte man sie auch die drei Musketiere der Trolls nennen Cheesy
Achja, musst du mal wieder einen komplett unkonstruktiven Trollbeitrag hier reinrotzen aber gleichzeitig bezeichnest du andere Leute als Trolle. Ist dann doch eher derjenige der Troll, der hier nichts zum Thema beiträgt und nur trollt.

Edit: Habe gerade gesehen, dass ich unabsichtlich im Thread ohne freie Meinungsäußerung gepostet habe und habe mein Post in den Bereich mit freier Meinungsäußerung verlagert.
You made my day.
Klar, die Lüge von Unknown01 plapperst du gerne unhinterfragt weiter, das kennen wir ja.
Dass die „Meinungsfreiheit“ nicht „eingeschränkt“ wird, wenn lediglich Beiträge gelöscht werden, die gegen die selbstmoderierten Regeln verstoßen, weil sie Denglisch enthalten und ich sogar darauf hinweise, dass gelöschte Beiträge ohne Denglisch erneut platziert werden können, entbehrt deine Falschdarstellung jeglicher Grundlage.
Vielleicht realisierst auch du das irgendwann.

Wie oft wollt ihr euch noch in der Opferrolle suhlen? Die Lügen, die ihr dazu erfindet, werden immer peinlicher.  Roll Eyes

Denglisch interessiert mich auch nicht wie die Mehrheit hier, es gibt wichtigeres auf der Welt als für so einen Schwachsinn seine Zeit zu investieren.
Du bist also zu faul dazu. Alles klar, Shitposter...  Lips sealed
1135  Other / Meta / Re: Self-moderated topics - nice feature or should it get banned? on: July 01, 2023, 12:13:48 AM
In scamming people, they can also delete the evidence so that the victim won't be able to prove the claim unless they make a copy of it right away.
All (originally posted) forum posts are always getting archived. There are several tools like from TryNinja or from LoyceV.
For example from LoyceV, we have a copy of all replies of this topic here as well: https://loyce.club/archive/topics/545/5458161.html



So, in case of a self-moderated topic, all submitted posts are getting archived on LoyceV's site and everyone will be able to look up these posts on LoyceV's site, no matter if these posts are getting deleted here on Bitcointalk. All posts are getting archived there.
A scammer could be exposed easily for deleting replies in a self-moderated topic because we would be able to prove it easily. Every post is getting archived.



I think the request to ban self-moderated won't happen as the person who requested it is a troll who doesn't deserve the attention of such issue. He will continue spamming more if that happens.
I'm thinking the same as most likely his motivation is, to ban self-moderated topics because he's a shitposter and OP of a self-moderated topic can delete his low-quality replies, should an OP of a self-moderated topic consider such replies as spammy shitposts.
1136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: July 01, 2023, 12:03:17 AM
Besides I predicted Perez to take pole position but he couldn't even make it to Q3.  Sad  Many times his lap time was removed due to pushing too hard at the same turns. Red Bull must be running out of patience for him after another failure.
Yes, it's really sad to see Perez having such bad luck again. On his Q2 laps, he has been really quick but why didn't he get a safe lap in to qualify in Q2? He had 3 laps, all of them getting deleted due to track limits, so I would expect him, after getting 2 laps deleted to set a safe lap but no, on all his Q2 laps, he pushed too much in the same corner and got track limits for this.
Verstappen had his first lap deleted as well but Verstappen managed it much better.

Starting from P15, it'll be a hard race for him once again and when having a look how he has performed recently, I've decided to make a bet because I beleive, RedBull won't be able to get a double podium here: 



In my opinion, the odds are very nice because it'll be very difficult for Perez to get a podium here. He's starting from P15 and would need to overtake Russell, Hamilton, Alonso, one Ferrari and a whole bunch of midfielders to get a podium unless no crash happens. Odds are really good in my opinion.

And speaking about good odds: Ferrari both cars podium finish is at @8.00 odds currently. Considering Leclerc and Sainz are starting from 2nd and 3rd position, while only Norris is behind them, who will be blocking traffic for a while, these odds are looking really valuable:



I've not taken the second bet so far, because we all know how Ferrari is struggling sometimes but @8.00 is really interesting odds.
Opinions?



I wonder how will the bookies interpret it,will they raise the odd for Verstappen,I highly doubt it as if I were them I would still give him that 1.39-1.45 that he has had during all these last races.
Sportsbet.io is having a Verstappen race win @1.22  Cheesy
So, bookmakers don't see any real chance for Leclerc to win, unless Verstappen has a mechanical issue or a very bad start.
1137  Other / Meta / Re: Self-moderated topics - nice feature or should it get banned? on: June 30, 2023, 10:37:52 PM
I am not against your proposal but with precedent cases, I believe the self-moderated feature will remain like it be.
Actually, it's not my proposal to ban self-moderated topics, it's a proposal from Unknown01, a deranged troll.  Smiley

Myself, I'm in favor of self-moderation, have applied this feature in some of my topics and I'm also replying to self-moderated topics frequently.

In fact, self-moderation is a nice, additional feature here on Bitcointalk and it's helpful in many occasions. Mainly to prevent spam but also for various other cases.  Smiley
1138  Other / Meta / Re: Self-moderated topics - nice feature or should it get banned? on: June 30, 2023, 09:54:09 PM
For me the most important poin of self moderation threads, its to avoid spam from newbies or accounts that doesnt understant the disscussion or they want to confuse.
Exactly that. It's quite spammy in the Gambling section, where many topics are flooded with dozens of low-quality spam daily. Even in 50 comments, very little information is contained.
These posts are only made due to paid signature campaigns and that's really a problem.

Luckily, some members dedicated to our Gambling board have launched new, self-moderated topics, where spam posts are getting removed, for example:

Spam topic: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 (4000 pages of replies)
Self-moderated topic: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2021/2022 (200 pages of replies)

Hopefully, such incentives will decrease spam in that section even more as some topics are almost impossible to follow, when there are 50+ new replies every day.
1139  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Gewinnspiel: (neues?) Bitcoin Allzeithoch im Jahr 2023 on: June 30, 2023, 09:42:05 PM
Da das Angebot überaus größzügig ist, würde ich es befürworten.  Smiley

Also ich würde es auch, ich bleib bei meinen Tipp sowieso, der BTC ist unberechenbar und da kann doch fast alles passieren von $ 20.000 bis 80.000 ist da doch alles drinnen.
Vielleicht sogar bis 100.000 USD.  Wink
Wobei die Chance dazu eher gering ist, da bräuchte es schon eine Entwicklung, wie zuletzt in der zweiten Jahreshälfte des Jahres 2017.

Auf jeden Fall dafür, danke das du da mit jeweiligen Sponsoren im Gespräch bist und es transparent weiter gibst.
Der Sponsor kam sogar auf mich zu bzw. wurde an mich herangetragen aber ich werde die genauen Details dazu noch erläutern, wenn am Samstagabend niemand gegen diese Änderungen ist.  Smiley
1140  Other / Meta / Re: Self-moderated topics - nice feature or should it get banned? on: June 30, 2023, 09:06:07 PM
In my opinion, self-moderated topics are a great feature of Bitcointalk for many reasons, for example:
- managing a Service and preventing trolls from flooding it
- great for the Gambling section, where so much spam can be prevented if OP is knowledgeable in the sport and can delete spam from Gambling spammers who have no clue about the sport
- preventing extra work for moderators, removing spam quickly
- setting up unique self-moderated rules to improve posting quality for example as long as these self-moderated rules do not violate the official rules and are resonable


With the above points that you have given, it's definitely worth it. But when it comes to scammers using the forum, the reverse is also the case; they create self-moderated topics where the only comments they allow to stay are anything dropped by them, that of their alt accounts, or anything that just has to be positive based on their discussion.
If a scammer is abusing self-moderation, we'll have the option of providing and compiling evidence and we can make a scam accusation if OP is using self-moderation to scam people.
Remember, all posts of Bitcointalk are archived by LoyceV here: LoyceV's Topic Details: highlight deleted and edited posts (forum wide)
Finally, such an abuse would be very simple to prove and in case self-moderation is abused to scam anyone, we will be able to give out a negative trust for anyone trying a scam.


Another thing about self-moderated topics is that, since it helps filter scammers, to some point it also prevents the freedom of expression kind of thing here in the forum, where all of us are entitled to our own opinion.
That's not true at all as long as such self-moderated rules are reasonable and not affecting a particular opinion. Most often, self-moderation is against trolling and lies, which is not an opinion because such behaviour is just meant to derail a discussion, therefore removing such posts is not "preventing the freedom of expression". Sometimes, trolls are deliberately targeting topics to derail them.
And if someone doesn't like these self-moderated rules, he should not reply there. It's as easy as it gets.
If he's just here to troll, removing these posts is totally deserved.
Forum rules are also not "preventing the freedom of expression" as well.


If I'm the creator of a self-moderated thread and it happens to be that the majority of the people commenting under it are against my opinion, I might likely wipe all those comments and leave only those that I see as being in my favor.
Then, you haven't applied the self-moderation feature properly because if these are legitimate opinions, deleting them is not ideal. Deleting is only advised if it's a troll post.  Roll Eyes



Of course, his character can be understood better also by looking at his Trust feedback page:
Yes, he and his friends are so braindead, it's quite a clown show.

And honestly, demanding to ban the opportunity to create self-moderated topics is so shortsighted, that it's already stupid.
The forum is very big and there are so many cases where creating a self-moderated topic makes sense to remove spam effectively.
Some sections might be less spammy but we all know how spam is a big issue in many forum sections. Obviously, Unknown01 doesn’t know this or it's feeling normal for him, because he's a shitposter.

Let's take the Gambling section as an example: there are topics where dozens of replies are made every single day. These spam megathreads have grown to over 1000 (!) pages or 50k replies.
For example, this one about Bundesliga discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159912.0
Bundesliga season is over now but still every day our shitposters are making tons of replies. Even yesterday, 25 replies have been left. Nobody is reading these shitposts, maybe a bunch of shitposters searching for crumbs to reply to.

Igebotz made a good job pointing out, how self-moderation can help to prevent shitposters flooding new Gambling topics: Gambling Board Spammers; Concerns, Solutions & Suggestions

The solution is very simple: shitposters will get their replies deleted due to self-moderation, these shitposters will get a PM and realize quickly that it's wasted time to post relies in such topics.
These shitposters will stop to shitpost in such topics and that will result in a cleaner thread.
It's simple and it's working. Great outcome from self-moderation.
But as a shitposter, these self-moderated topics are a big nuisance and it's leading to their shitposts getting deleted.  Tongue

Funnily, 2 of the biggest German shitposters (MinoRaiola and bct_ail) are part of that spammers list. And funny as well, that bct_ail is one of the shitposters shitting a reply on page 1777 on that spam megathread.
I hope that Signature campaign managers will consider the list from Igebotz and kick these shitposters out of their campaigns due to massive shitposting.
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