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1121  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it possible to bridge BTC onchain to ETH ? on: September 13, 2023, 01:20:41 AM
The fastest way and simplest way in my opinion is through Centralized Exchange You just need to deposit BTC and withdraw to the desired chain like ETH in your case.
However, there is 3rd part app on the Decentralized Finance platform like Wormhole or Thorchain that I know but personally, I never using it.

Also, you can actually buy a wrapped version of Bitcoin on a desired chain through an app like 1inch or Uniswap.
and lastly what version do you want to is it from Ren or from Wbtc you can actually see there is guide how to using their platform and how to bridge it.
1122  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are Technical Indicators useless? on: September 13, 2023, 01:08:26 AM
Indicators can increase the probability of making profit in trading, but it deos not 100% guarantee that if a trader use them to trade, that the trader would win. Indicators are just some things to know in trading but strategies is what that is most important.

100% agree
This is the point of indicator and that is why it is called an indicator guys It only indicates a possibility and I do believe there is no indicator that 100% works all the time Basically what makes an indicator work is that people believe in it.
In my opinion.
Let's say there are 1000 people who that believe when ema 100 crosses above ema 200 is bullish or what we usually call the golden cross when there are a lot of people who believe it tends to bring the prices up. so when people do not believe it much or there is another thing the golden cross could actually fail.

Backtest is the best way to indicate how much win percentage that tells us how the indicator works.

If you think indicator useless or you scary to take the riks dont take futures trading or dont take trading at all

1123  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE] on: September 13, 2023, 12:33:14 AM
~SNIP~
Semoga cara ini bisa mempermudah buat pengajuan-pengajuan berikutnya

Makasih banyak mas bayu sangat membantu sekali  Shocked ane baru tau kalau google bisa dijadiin gini juga. ya next ane nyobain triknya lah mehehhehe yang pertama agak luput hehe
1124  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE] on: September 12, 2023, 02:33:42 AM
Halo semuanya mohon bantuannya di post saya pertama di sini agar tali silatuhrami tidak terputus pinjam dulu seratus haha tolong reviewnya suhu  Grin


Terima kasih  Kiss
1125  Local / Konu Dışı / Re: Vispilio'nun Tam Bağımsız 🔥 Merit Cafe'si 🔥 on: September 12, 2023, 02:06:08 AM
Vispilio burada Türkiye dışı paylaşımlara izin verdiği için ilk defa kendi paylaşımımı yapacağım, vakit ayırdığınız için teşekkürler Smiley

Re: To Hodl or Lend: What is your take?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455638.msg62388936#msg62388936

Re: US Advisory on Payment App Risks and Bitcoin’s Position as a Secure Alternative
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455345.msg62389106#msg62389106

Re: Altcoin season, scam altcoin projects will appear. Check their Githubs first
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225942.msg62451839#msg62451839

Re: Altcoin season, scam altcoin projects will appear. Check their Githubs first
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225942.msg62446946#msg62446946

Re: Gary Gensler's SEC sues Crypto Influncers and posts on his Twitter as propaganda
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5415795.msg62500190#msg62500190

Re: ASIC Miner's Efficiency , Where Does it Stop?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456978.msg62513866#msg62513866

Re: The future of Farming.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458960.msg62530149#msg62530149

Re: Is bitcoin a legal tender or not. Why?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457541.msg62575372#msg62575372

Re: Find Out the Wallet Type of address by Number of Characters
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459599.msg62566370#msg62566370

Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg62611913#msg62611913

Teşekkürler
ve umarım başlığımda yararlı bir şeyler bulursunuz

1126  Local / Topik Lainnya / Pemerintah berupaya membatasi akses masyarakat terhadap informasi dan kebebasan on: September 12, 2023, 01:40:38 AM
Penulis: GazetaBitcoin
Topik Original: Governs try to limit access of public to information and freedom since ages




Sepotong sejarah hari ini hadir sebagai lanjutan dari postingan Gazeta yang lain: 1, 2 dan 3.

Pemerintah tidak ingin masyarakat luas memiliki akses terhadap informasi dan mencoba untuk menghentikannya sejak zaman kuno. Contoh paling terkenal adalah penemuan mesin cetak pada tahun 1448, yang merupakan langkah maju yang besar dalam mengakses informasi dan menuju kebebasan. Setelah penemuan Gutenberg dipublikasikan, pemerintah tidak dapat lagi membatasi akses masyarakat terhadap informasi, karena tulisan, buku, dan manuskrip dapat diterjemahkan ke dalam berbagai bahasa dan disebarkan ke berbagai budaya. Desentralisasi dimulai sejak tahun itu. Pada tahun 1517, 95 tesis yang ditulis oleh Martin Luther dicetak dalam ribuan eksemplar dan diterjemahkan dalam berbagai bahasa dan perkataannya dikenal oleh seluruh benua. Sebagai konsekuensi atas tindakannya dia dikucilkan oleh Gereja. Namun tanpa dia dan tanpa mesin cetak, kemungkinan besar reformasi Protestan akan gagal.

Siapa yang bisa memegang informasi dapat juga memegang kekuasaan dan, secara umum, informasi dipegang oleh oleh para elit – pemerintah, lembaga, penegak hukum. Atau Gereja, seperti yang terjadi dalam kasus Luther. Dan mereka tidak ingin masyarakat mengaksesnya, karena itu berarti kehilangan kekuasaan.

Kembali ke zaman modern, namun masih zaman dulu. Masa Cypherpunks. John Gilmore, salah satu dari mereka, mempunyai dendam pribadi terhadap NSA. Atau mungkin saya seharusnya menulis bahwa NSA punya dendam pribadi dengannya? Salah satu kemenangan paling luar biasa dari informasi melawan penindasan dipimpin pada tahun 1989 oleh Gilmore yang mempublikasikan sebuah dokumen rahasia. Penulis dokumen tersebut bekerja untuk Xerox dan NSA secara khusus meminta Xerox untuk menghancurkan dokumen tersebut. John Gilmore tidak setuju dengan sensor ini dan memposting dokumen tersebut di Internet. Tentu saja itu dengan cepat diunduh ribuan kali, dan perang antara Gilmore dan NSA pun dimulai.

Pada tahun 1992 terjadi pertempuran besar lainnya antara John Gilmore dan NSA. Untuk alasan yang jelas (terkait dengan penyensoran informasi gratis), manuskrip William Friedman - yang dianggap sebagai kakek kriptografi di AS - dirahasiakan, meskipun ditulis pada masa Perang Dunia II. Gilmore kembali tidak setuju, mengingat karya Friedman harus tersedia bagi siapa saja yang berminat. Jadi dia memanggil NSA ke Pengadilan dan mendasarkan permintaannya untuk mendeklasifikasi buku-buku tersebut berdasarkan Undang-Undang Kebebasan Informasi. Tentu saja NSA enggan menanggapi permintaannya, sehingga semuanya harus diselesaikan dalam persidangan. Setelah itu, dia berhasil menemukan buku Friedman di perpustakaan umum. Selama persidangan dia diberitahu bahwa kecuali dia menyerahkan buku-buku tersebut kepada pemerintah, dia akan dituduh melakukan spionase yang dapat mengakibatkan hukuman 10 tahun penjara, karena dia memiliki materi rahasia. NSA tidak berhenti sampai di sini. Badan tersebut berusaha mencari materi lain yang "masuk akal" di berbagai ruang publik. Gilmore memberi tahu hakim bahwa apa yang dia temukan sudah diketahui publik, karena buku-buku itu ada di perpustakaan umum dan pada saat yang sama dia memutuskan untuk berbicara kepada pers tentang keseluruhan kasus. Segera setelah itu, buku-buku tersebut dicetak oleh Aegean Park Press.

Kasus Gilmore diketahui publik dan sejak saat itu pemerintah mundur. Tuduhan tersebut dibatalkan dan manuskrip-manuskrip tersebut dideklasifikasi. John Gilmore menang. Rakyat pun menang, karena informasi publik tetap berada di tangan publik, sebagaimana mestinya.

Perjuangan untuk kebebasan berpendapat, untuk privasi dan untuk pemerintah yang kurang relevan sedah dahulu. Sekarang berada di tangan kita.
1127  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Do you think that Bitcoin is more worth buying than the ASICs? on: September 11, 2023, 01:24:41 AM
THis is my opinion but its worth to buy a bitcoin rather than buying a mining rig, IF you don't have enough money to afford multiple mining rig. But if you still curious about how mining works and watched the fan screaming yeah you can buy one and running them if you think it is worth you can buy it more.

Six years ago I was looking to mine and I wanted it solar powered but by that time I had money and I had a friend who could set up one for me using GPU I just found out that companies are mining it using ASIC mining rings and the cost at that time is not worth it, I ended up buying Bitcoin and true enough it's more profitable than buying Asic I think it's the general sentiment of those who used to mined and give it up.
Time is changing and sometimes a change of mind is still worth it.

Good for you then, Recently Coingecko show the cost to mine one Bitcoin there a thread that discussed about it too but here is the image


It is costly to mine the Bitcoin but it still can generate a lot of money if you have a ton of money too  Grin there is some old quote "If you want to make money you must spend money" So when bear market like this happen it is good to buy more bitcoin and DCA when the Bull market you can use the profit for do mining  Grin
1128  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Binance and multiple citizenship on: September 11, 2023, 01:15:27 AM
If you are curious to know, see this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464659.msg62760696#msg62760696

Binance's customer support representative told me that it's not recommended to use VPN and will result in account compromise. Also, said that it's not their wish but they have no other choice. If anything, I would use VPN with dedicated IP but you have to be very careful with it, if you login from Cyprus and minutes later you login from Hamburg, then you are leaked and will probably get banned.

Thanks for the info

I actually already got banned a couple of months ago because of using a VPN  Cheesy Cheesy . My VPN has AutoConnect features so I never checked which country I connected to, and Long story short my account login to Germany and I am from Indonesia and Binance is blocked by the Ministry of Communication and Information Technology of Indonesia so boom my account got banned for 7 days and they told me to give proof of address to recover the account.

I think Connected VPn is okay if you are using dedicated IP like you said because most of the time VPN only has static IP
1129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is bitcoin moving now? on: September 11, 2023, 01:08:52 AM
If in the long run, increasing interest rates will even bring great benefits to us because interest rates will affect prices in the short term and will be a suitable opportunity to accumulate cheap bitcoins. In the long term, interest rates will certainly fall, the economy will recover and investment demand will increase again, at which point we will see bitcoin demand and price recover.
But to be honest, very few people are patient and everyone wants bitcoin to increase in price soon, so every time interest rates increase or there is some negative news, the market will react negatively, causing a lot of panic.
For some reason, bitcoin now become tightly connected to real-world economic news like the Fed and so on maybe because there are a lot of institutional investors who started looking at it, and panicking happening a lot nowadays. On the other hand, there is so much government that regulate in a good way so the best thing to do now is
Yeah, the best thing right now is while we wait for bitcoin to move upward let's buy more hahahah.
1130  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Fake Binance Phishing email on: September 10, 2023, 01:11:02 AM
I have a bunch of emails every day from scammers just make sure that you have more than one email like I did.

I have one email for important things only and one email that is registered to any site from gambling to sometimes fake cloud mining  Grin or airdrop and this email get regular email starting from donation big airdrop even giveaway with a staggering 2 million USD  Grin Grin

and a little bit of tip just don't click any link that is sent from your email before checking it first who sent the email, because scammers nowadays are getting smart
1131  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: rmcrypt.com - Ponzi scheme sugarcoated as a platform for sharing "donations" on: September 10, 2023, 01:02:40 AM
Bro it win-win solution you give them a donation and they give you back as a mention on their site "Your donation will be distributed to all participants and in turn you will receive donations from other users with a total amount of BTC1.4 to BTC2.4"  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

What a Joke, I mean just look at their site  Tongue and who the F actually deposited in their site  Grin. I just hope people nowadays are getting smart
1132  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bitmex is being stupid on: September 10, 2023, 12:56:08 AM
I used Bitmexy last year and the exchange worked fine, I using it because there was no other alternative exchange at that time. However, I do believe they not gonna freeze the account without reason unless you are breaking their Term of Service or they did it because there is something fishy in their exchange.

Tho before we made all the speculation about Bitmex you should email them back about what is going on!
1133  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Binance and multiple citizenship on: September 09, 2023, 02:13:24 AM
I am also curious about what is gonna happen in a case like this, but in my opinion that you can still be registered with your other passport from B or C if you have dual citizenship.

and you might access the site using the VPN but worth the mention that some VPN can be detected by binance and your account can get locked
1134  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [Discussion] Bitcoin Spot ETFs on: September 09, 2023, 02:00:44 AM
There is so much news going on like the SEC is pending all applications including BlackRock ETF on the first deadline so we can only watch and see at this point, One time for sure it going to shake the market whether the SEC is approved or not. But my opinion is that the SEC is going to approve the applications.

There is some news that I am going to mention "JP Morgan said SEC will likely be forced to approve spot Bitcoin ETF following Grayscale's court victory. Jay Clayton, the former SEC chairman, added that spot BTC ETF approval is 'inevitable' because "the dichotomy between a futures product and a cash product can't go on forever." " - https://www.theblock.co/post/248879/jpmorgan-bitcoin-etf-sec-grayscale -



October 2023 is expected to witness increased market volatility, primarily due to key events occurring in the middle of the month:
⚫ SEC's 45-day window is set to expire for reviewing the Grayscale application.
⚫ Approaching deadline for spot BTC ETF filings.
⚫ Final deadline for futures ETH ETF
Source : https://t.me/telonews_en/7709, https://twitter.com/K33Research/status/1699379950430593400?s=20
1135  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is bitcoin moving now? on: September 09, 2023, 01:44:15 AM
I haven't heard about the raise of interest rate this September, but if they did I would agree that it will have a negative effect again on the price.
However, if you look at todays price, it seems that we have overcome $25,000 as we move to $26,300, which is a good sign this month.

I don't remember exactly September or October and the Fed didn't confirm it would raise interest rates, but they said they could continue to raise interest rates because the inflation situation is not really under control. Some recent news also shows that the Fed will not hesitate to continue raising interest rates 1 or 2 times before stopping raising interest rates. If that happens, it will really put pressure on the market and it will be even more difficult for us to recover before the end of the year.

The price has been trading above $26k but I don't consider this a good sign as without any positive news to sustain then a drop will happen at any moment. We need more positive news or bigger movements to be considered positive for bitcoin.

After a quick search on Google that "After two relatively tame Consumer Price Index inflation reports and some evidence that the employment situation may be softening, the Federal Reserve is not expected to raise rates at its September meeting. However, there is still a chance that the Fed raises rates again in 2023" - https://www.forbes.com/sites/simonmoore/2023/08/15/what-to-look-for-from-the-feds-final-meetings-of-2023/

There is still a chance Fed raises in 2023 but we don't know it yet but there is a meeting this month, and the price currently I'm writing is $25.8K so possibly sideaway until there is good news coming.
1136  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CGMD miners redefine passive income opportunities with innovative cloud mining on: September 08, 2023, 01:38:03 AM
Hahah this is definitely a joke @stompix should comment on this thread  Grin

But hey take a look a this
1137  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Something like ebay, but with crypto payment on: September 08, 2023, 01:25:25 AM
Well you can actually buy any stuff that Visa or Mastercard accepts using crypto not directly but through an app you deposit the money and then you can spend it or buy using gift card like https://bitcards.com/ there is a bunch of option just google it https://www.google.com/search?q=crypto+debit+card&oq=crypto+debit+&aqs=chrome.0.0i512l2j69i57j0i512l7.3999j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
1138  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Sentiment Poll for September on: September 08, 2023, 01:01:19 AM
I hope that it's going to get lower than what many bears expect the market would go down. Going down to 20k would be a different story imo, that would test the confidence of the people on the bitcoin market and I know that most people here isn't easily shaken when a drastic price drop happens but the price going 20k below is just too much, a lot will definitely panic sell and hopefully I'm just overthinking about that part because the price affects market sentiment and confidence.

It is definitely going to test all people mentally and physically hahaha. But still, I hope Bitcoin won't touch that level the 24-25K should be the end at least that I want to hehehe.

But this month historically is bear market and started to bull again next month Im still hoping that the down is not much like I have said above
1139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is bitcoin moving now? on: September 08, 2023, 12:40:43 AM
I think bitcoin will continue to move sideways and this situation will last even longer. A few days ago I saw a news report saying that a lot of investors are leaving the market and it shows no signs of stopping. Looks like this is the last time to shake off the weak hands, the last bad projects before entering a new bull cycle.

Bitcoin has not had any noticeable movement in the past several months and this has left many investors depressed and losing hope. It can be said that this period is really terrible that we need to get through. I am not optimistic about bitcoin between now and the end of the year.

Yeah, I hope we can get rid of weak/fake project since this type of project wipes investor from investing again in the crypto industry, but the real problem is when the bull cycle start fake token or fake project will start to float on the market again. so it's hard to totally wipe out all of it.

and also yes that some investor is depressed and losing hope, I also heard that the SEC is going to raise the interest rate this September if they do the Bitcoin price might fall again. Secondly, Bitcoin ETF application is still not yet approved at this time, but when this get approved this gonna be huge win for Bitcoin.
1140  Other / Archival / Re: Indonesia Translation by dansus021 on: September 07, 2023, 04:41:23 PM
Penulis: icopress
Topik Original: Bitcoin Pizza Day on Bitcointalk



Quote from: Voting untuk Pizza yang terbaik [Segera]Hasil [Tahun Lalu]Pesta Bitcointalk [Discord] Berhadiah $250 new [Raffle] 🎁


Setiap tahun pada tanggal 22 Mei, komunitas Bitcoin merayakan Hari Bitcoin Pizza. Hari ketika pengguna forum dengan nama panggilan Laszlo membayar 10,000 BTC untuk dua Pizza Papa John’s(kenyataannya, menurut Laszlo sendiri, dia menghabiskan sekitar 50,000 Bitcoin untuk membeli pizza). Oleh karena itu, kontes ini adalah kesempatan bagus untuk menguji keterampilan kuliner kalian semua dan menjadi bagian dari tradisi yang sudah ada sejak dulu bagi para bitcoiner dan bagi orang yang mereka cintai dengan pizza yang lezat. 🍕

       Apa Hadiahnya?

Sponsor tahun ini adalah BC.Game, BitcoinGirl dan Theymos (jika ada yang merasa juga ingin masuk dalam daftar ini bisa langsung di gas ke icopress). Perlu diketahui bahwa Bitcointalk Pizza Day 2024 bukanlah acara resmi dan merupakan acara komunitas. Akan ada 5 pemenang yang akan berbagi dana hadiah sebesar $2,500 dalam Bitcoin.




🥈 Juara 2/3
🥇 Juara 1
🥉 Juara 4/5th



Berhadiah $500
Berhadiah  $1000
Berhadiah of $250



                                                                                                                                                                     
      How it works?

Sejak thread ini dipublikasikan hingga 1 Juni, Anda akan memiliki kesempatan untuk memposting foto pizza Anda (baca peraturan di bawah). Setelah tanggal yang ditentukan, akan dibuat rangkaian voting yang mana melalui upaya bersama kita akan menentukan 5 pemenang (sistem voting akan sama dengan yang digunakan di BCA).

  • Posting minimal 2 foto: [1] Foto Pizza + nama pengguna dan tanggal [2] Foto Pizza sedang dibuat Catatan
  • Pizza harus berupa pizza Bitcoin (Gaya Bitcointalk diperbolehkan).
  • Pizza harus dibuat sendiri / Hanya satu pizza per pengguna Catatan.
  • Saya berhak memutuskan berdasarkan kebijaksanaan saya sendiri apakah makanan yang Anda panggang adalah pizza atau bukan.

Sedikit saran... saat menyiapkan pizza Bitcoin bersama keluarga selama tiga tahun berturut-turut, saya sampai pada kesimpulan bahwa lebih baik menambahkan simbol Bitcoin setelah pizza dimasukkan ke dalam oven selama 7/10 menit. Jika Anda segera menambahkan simbol BTC, simbol tersebut akan mulai matang jauh sebelum pizza siap.

Diskusi di thread utama di perbolehkan! GASKENNN



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