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1241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH under 10$!!! on: December 10, 2016, 04:21:07 PM
Ethereum is going to keep declining until it slowly dies away. I don't think that it is possible to revive it any time soon, to a price level that is above the all time high of around 0.025 BTC per Ethereum. However, there still might be some small pumps along the way, but the general trend should be down.

Ethereum's technology is going to be replaced in the future, just like Litecoin. This just proves that the best technology doesn't matter, the reputation and the long track record of a cryptocurrency is what does matter.

yeah true..but i still think eth is good but worth too much..when price come to 1-2$ back,then its will be more used...8-10$ is over priced!

If you think the ETH at $10 is over priced, you should buy ETC, that is much cheaper although it does not have good development.

that is a terrible advice. because if you don't believe in ETH you should absolutely stay the hell away from ETC too because that is the fork and its survivability is even worse than ETH.

besides all coins are separate when it comes to pump and dumps and ETC is getting more and more away from ETH and both eventually die with small pumps on the way down, so choose then only when they are about to get pumped and don't pay much attention to the name.
1242  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 10, 2016, 04:15:36 PM
I still havent found any decent investment options with bitcoins other than investing in House of some dice site. I generally gamble my btc. I find gambling entertaining and I like to do it coz of that. Gamble on a game of football or tennis and watch the match is how I do it. With some live betting too.

we are all looking for a decent investment to make some profit on our money sometimes our whole life. and this is why there are so many different scammers everyday because there are a lot of people looking and many of them get desperate.

it is best if you start off your own business and start earning money on your own out of what you do without a boss or someone else to spoon feed you little profit.
1243  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: December 10, 2016, 04:10:30 PM
My idea is to bet only when there is serious promotion going on. I am not talking about something like rollover 30x to grab bonus because that is very hard to win.
The best promos are cashback promotions on lost bets. I've seen it on both https://1x-bit.com/ and sportsbet.io

i have actually had this strategy and i still will try it out whenever i can find the opportunity but the problem with this idea is that these promotions are sometimes rare, there are lots of tiny free bitcoin like faucet payment and stuff like that but the real good promotions are so rare and most of the time they are on brand new sites that you can not trust with deposit because they have no history.
1244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: December 10, 2016, 04:02:07 PM

It's easy for you to say it but it is actually hard to do. You know avoiding using your Bitcoin in stuff such us gambling or fake investment is hard because they are the ones that are widelt available for Bitcoin. When you go to the internet it is hard for you to find where to spend your Bitcoin except for Gambling sites and new hyips.
I agree, because you said  it will happen, it's not like that. It is better to make it done even without telling. Gambling and HYIP is the primary reason also I think that makes bitcoin alive. Many users spend their coins indeed there.

That is why you need to have self-control first so that you will really be able to avoid the temptation to gamble or to invest in HYIPs, There are many ways to stay away from gambling but if you can't control yourself to do those way then you will still end up gambling or investing in HYIPs.

Self-control really is hard especially when someone is already addicted. I had a minor addition back then but I overcame it. What I did is to always think that I don't have money. I don't even have money to eat. So I can't gamble because I don't have money! That's what I kept in my mind so I stopped gambling. How this helps someone else get over their addiction.

sometimes i feel like gambling addiction is not even an addiction because it sounds even silly to say it out loud. it is not like you are hooked up on anything like narcotics that you have to use or you get the shivers Cheesy
it is a mind control thing unlike anything else you may have seen and it is already too easy to do and the addicted person has to want it to easily overcome it.
1245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 09, 2016, 12:31:12 PM
The worst mistake that I have made in gambling is gambling itself. Why? because gambling is just making my bitcoin disappear whenever I try gambling and I never should have tried gambling because gambling doesn't bring any good thing on me, just bad thing like disappearing of bitcoin because I always lose.

gambling is not all bad, you just experienced the bad part of it which is losing. but there are other sides to gambling also. for example the fun of playing the games, so many people like taking risks and they enjoy it even if they lose money and this is actually one of the biggest reasons why so many casinos exist.

also there is not always loss. sometimes you can win too and besides there are methods and some games that you can have better statistics in like sports betting.
1246  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin. Long or short? on: December 09, 2016, 12:23:32 PM
I'm long on BTC. In 5 years it won't be purchasable in full amounts for most people.

well said.
right now miners are earning approximately 1800BTC per day which is the amount they sell this was 3600BTC and will continue going down and each time this massive sell pressure is removed price will go up (it has already happened twice and price has gone up twice) and there are so many strong hands accumulating these coins because they very well know what is happening.

* best thing is long
1247  Other / Archival / Re: I want create my coin,what do i need ? on: December 09, 2016, 12:14:49 PM
first you should ask yourself "why do i want to create my own coin?"

do you actually have something to add to the altcoin world and the cryptocurrency technology or do you want to end up adding 1 more name to the altcoins graveyard?
is it for money or for development (do you actually have some innovation)?
do you have any cryptography experience?
are you even familiar with bitcoin and at least 1 or 2 altcoins code cover to cover?

if you don't have valid answers to all of these questions, all you need is a Github account and knowing how to fork and rename. and then end up in that graveyard that i mentioned.
1248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I bet you have never lost more than this !!! on: December 09, 2016, 12:10:32 PM
In my country the lost amount is more than enough for a successful and luxurious living. He might be having a good backing or else with this he might have planned to give a try and know how lucky he is!

216 bitcoin is a very huge amount in any country and you may not be able to live a luxurious life by it is a good life with that kind of money in all countries. and someone who has 166 thousand dollars to burn like this surely has a lot more where that came from and lives a comfortable life.
1249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 09, 2016, 12:03:00 PM
Online gambling is nice but real gambling is way better because you can really enjoy yourself and the feeling if you win is just so much better than just behind your monitor..
I really think real life gambling is still better.

I like both of them, but it depends on my need. If I wanted to see some beautiful girls and gambling at the same time then I should go to the physical casino and take some real action of gambling. But if I'm tired from work and don't want to go outside but I wanted to relax and wants to have some fun with gambling, then I will just use online gambling. They are both good.
you are right. may I also will choose both, because gambling onine and offline was quite similar. but, in the real gambling, perhaps very many girls who will accompany you, but it does cost money, and online gambling is very good at doing when you are busy or at work. Well, even your boss will not know that you're playing online gambling in the office

I will choose both either because that is going to be in a different situation that you are facing. If you are bored enough already with online gambling because there is no live interaction with other players then you can just simply visit real gambling by going to the real casino's or you can call out your friends and start playing poker in your home.

maybe in your place, real casino is available so you can choose both but for me, real casino is not available so i will choose online gambling, beside that, i don't have to show my details when i want to make a bet.

Basically you do not need to come to a casino if you just want to gamble, real gambling is not always in casino. You can play cards game such as poker with your friends at your own home or somewhere else and you do not need to show any details because your friends knows about you very well lol.
Indeed it is not safe if your country has a law against gambling then you might be jailed if the police caught you play gambling with your friends.


I feel sorry for those folks that doesn't have physical casino in their places but the feeling to gamble with real gambling is totally different from the online gambling because of the crowd and the people who are you gambling with. Panjul is right, just like what others said you can just call out your friends and start your own poker game or any gambling game at your home.

I can't believe that there are still some places that doesn't have real casino's but you can build your own. You don't have to invest big money with it, you can just have a place in your garage and start your own casino there depending on the needs of the gamblers there. Because online and real gambling have their very own differences and advantages.

gambling in some countries is illegal so there is no gambling place (casinos,...) in those countries. also in other countries in many cities specially smaller cities there aren't that many people interested in gambling so even if you open up a casino it will fail miserably because of lack of customers and high cost of keeping in running.
so yeah there are many places without a casino, it is not hard to believe.
1250  Economy / Gambling / Re: New gambling game when you win always (Beta) on: December 09, 2016, 11:55:03 AM
this is what i got from your game is it right?
i pay an amount based on the case that i choose for example i pay 1500 bits and then roll to have a chance of winning one of the 10 rewards?

so far so good.

but one problem is that there is a much higher chance of loosing than winning! for example in the 1500 bits case there are 6 amounts lower than 1500 and 1 equal and only 3 are more than it. (3 out of 10 are profit!) other cases aren't better either.

also i did not see the link to provably fair. did i miss it?
1251  Economy / Speculation / Re: Indonesian Largest Bitcoin Exchange Reach 788 USD while Other in 770 USD area on: December 09, 2016, 11:44:06 AM
how can is this Possible Indonesian Largest Bitcoin Exchange VIP.Bitcoin.CO.ID Reach Rp. 10,500,000 or 788.23 USD (rate 1 USD = Rp. 13,321) while Other in 770 USD area?


is there inside trader?
if you want quick money. sent your  money, and sell all you coin and buy back at after the price at Rp. 10,2xx,xxx area or 770 USD area
bvecause trader over ther is easy to panic



first of all i have never heard about that exchange before in my life and even if i knew about it i would never trust them with my money by just randomly sending it there to take a small arbitrage profit.

also this is not a new thing, many Asian exchanges mostly in China have $800 for price from time to time.
1252  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: December 08, 2016, 03:01:14 PM
You can simply trade to make some money although it has some risks its very profitable nowadays with all these altcoins or you can do some signature campaigns that are also very profitable.
Actually trading never results each times  into Profit because be it depends upon the luck the trader choose to invest for which Bitcoin particular altcoin .

only a tiny part of trading depends on luck not all of it. if you know what to do then surely you can predict these things and start earning real profit.

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I am also a trader but my profit now is going down daily Because of the less change in the altcoin price .

your profit is going down daily because you should have stayed away from altcoin market and focused all your attention to bitcoin. it is obvious that all the altcoins are on a down trend right now.
1253  Economy / Gambling / Re: What about an advanced Dice Game on: December 08, 2016, 02:51:32 PM
one of the things that makes dice so popular and we know that dice gets boring so fast, is the fact that it is too easy to play. you can literary play it with the least amount of work and get the result as fast as possible.

and these features are not found any place else in any other games. so i doubt that even if you could spend the time and come up with the perfect system that is fair and playable people may not be so willing to play it.
1254  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price by 2020? on: December 08, 2016, 02:45:08 PM
Thinking mid/long-term, what are your thoughts about Bitcoin's price in 2020?

I think it will be around $2000.

wasn't there already another topic about 2020 price?
and also why do you think it will be $2000 we are talking about 3 complete years from now and in the past two years ish price has gone up 3.8X and what makes you think it will only rise to $2000 in the following 3 years considering after $1000 it won't be that hard.
1255  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin impacts? on: December 08, 2016, 02:41:46 PM
I think the main impact that the bitcoin made for the people to turn on doing bitcoin or start earning bitcoin is that it's very valuable price and it is fast and anonymous. And I know there will be more surprises that bitcoin will bring to us, and all we have to do is to wait and continue in earning bitcoin, who knows, we might become millionaires in the future.
that is a fact that bitcoin is giving us good profit and is a good source of income. but i think we should take bitcoin as currency, and try to use it for online trading and shopping, i think only then bitcoin can be introduce in people as currency.
First of all, Bitcoin has been already a type of currency. However, people have not realized this yet. They still think that Bitcoin is scam and they do not want to accept Bitcoin at all. The lack of knowledge leads to this terrible result. Besides, many governments still try to prevent its people from using Bitcoin. What a shame. I think as long as Bitcoin is used online as well as in the physical world nowadays, the truth about Bitcoin will soon be revealed.

the bitcoin is scam though is getting too old and i doubt that anybody thinks about bitcoin that way these days and the only reason why we hear this statement from time to time is because the people who spread FUD has not come up with a new statement since 2008 yet.
1256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: December 06, 2016, 01:32:37 PM
I have experience a little bit of both and i have to say that i am quite poor at it. I have made losses in trading and gambling. However, in trading, i lose due to inexperience which i believe can be improved.

that is right, the good thing about trading is that you can improve yourself a lot in it. and every time that you lose, is just a new lesson that you can learn from and then use more caution to avoid repeating it in the future. and in no time you find yourself with fewer and fewer mistakes and more profit.
1257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Zcash price will go upto $1000 [Hold your coins] on: December 06, 2016, 01:24:40 PM
I got some leaked news [cannot share the source]
there is no reason for not being able to share the source of that kind of news unless it was imaginary

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but believe me
who are you again?

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zcash going to up again.
surely it will go up again, nobody is denying that. Zcash is a pump and dump that is not yet reached the end of the line.

the question is by how much and when. it centaily is not close and it is not even to $100

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Just hold your coins or you will be regret.
the better suggestion would be dump now and buy if you saw movement.

you are claiming a rise to $1000 right? then a wise guy would dump right now as fast as he can at $47 ish and if he saw a rise buys back. if what you say is not a lie buying even at $100 means 10x profit Cheesy

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Source tells zcash will go to atleast $700 or might be $1000 at the end of this year.
the market tells zcash will be at least $20 at the end of this year
- all altcoins are being dumped real hard.
- people need their money to buy bitcoin to join the bitcoin rise
- also people cash out their investment the closer we get to new year.

all these crash the price of any altcoin specially zcash that has a lot of mined coins dumped everyday.
1258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I post refferal link of hot game here? on: December 06, 2016, 01:18:25 PM
Good practice is sending referral links in PM to ONLY those who are interested on your momentary benefits, please note NOT to everyone.
This is the least method you can try , but overusing PM to all member with your ref link leads you into perma-ban . Don't use this method on the first place
No. I didn't mean that. We should not start promoting our referral links through PM directly.

First, we need to have a topic about the promotion of gambling site by explaining what momentary benefits we are going to offer. By seeing that people will show their interest, only to those interested people we need to start sending PM with our referral links.

that is generally not such a good idea because there is always the possibility that a troll is showing interest and then as soon as you send him the message they report it to the admins and you get banned.

besides if you are looking for making profit from affiliates there are lots of other ways that are a lot better than this. on the forum you are most probably going to get small fishes who bet only with faucet. you should go out of here and look for whales instead.
1259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice sites with highest speed on: December 06, 2016, 01:13:14 PM
I want to know which dice site is the fastest? Or is there a list to rank the speed of all dice sites? It would be useful if there is such comparison.
Are you going to use bot's? Or any third part bots? i'd go to bitsler nor primedice this two are goods when you are using bots and that has good settings. But using bots has disacvantages and you will find it out once you tried it done.

primedice throttles speed a lot if the bet size is small and it sometimes is slowed down to a point of getting annoying. i think bitsler does it too with small amounts but it didn't feel it at least when i played there.
and for larger amounts they are both good but i saw bitsler have a flash thingy where it supposed to make super fast bets, i have not tried it though.
1260  Other / Off-topic / Re: Game to develop on: December 06, 2016, 01:08:59 PM
i mostly want to see an innovative type of game, something that is new rather than just being the same old games like dice, ... even if the game itself is new, that would be great.

but as for games that already exist i have not yet seen an easy to use and fast platform to play poker on. or generally games that can be played P2P.
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