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1281  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: If I find money in my mailbox … on: November 16, 2012, 07:44:56 PM
There are people publicly announcing to send Bitcoins for anonymous cash deliveries. I would do the same service but without announcing it like that. Would you?

(To help decide which option to pick, lets assume the cash is less than 5% of your bitcoin holdings.)

My choice: 10% and send. In Germany it would actually be 5% and send but here in Chile, trading Bitcoins is not that easy.
Do multiple transactions.

Pardon?
1282  Economy / Trading Discussion / If I find money in my mailbox … on: November 16, 2012, 07:39:44 PM
There are people publicly announcing to send Bitcoins for anonymous cash deliveries. I would do the same service but without announcing it like that. Would you?

(To help decide which option to pick, lets assume the cash is less than 5% of your bitcoin holdings.)

My choice: 10% and send. In Germany it would actually be 5% and send but here in Chile, trading Bitcoins is not that easy.
1283  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WordPress.com accepts Bitcoins on: November 16, 2012, 06:35:38 PM
Very good news indeed. I celebrated this by closing my paypal account for good.
… and so did I. Funny how you have to click 7(?) times on ok, continue, really close, really really close, i'm sure, … even after you gave them detailed info on why you quit. Oh, damn, I forgot to write "R.I.P. Paypal"
1284  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blockchain.info - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics on: November 16, 2012, 05:53:43 PM
What about this... The owner of a website puts a file on their website called bitcoin_tags.json or something like that. This would server a similar purpose to sitemap.xml but instead contains a number of bitcoin addresses and labels.

For example http://wikileaks.org/bitcoin_tags.json

{
 "tags" : {
  "address" : "1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v",
  "tag" : "Donations",
  "sig" : "signature of concatenated tag and domain"
 }
}

Once the owner of a website has added the file they can suggest that blockchain.info indexes it, once indexed blockchain.info will display the new tag accordingly. This has the advantage of.

* maintainable, webmaster can update bitcoin_tags.json as they choose. Deadlinks will be removed from the database.
* Decentralised, any service can index tags.
* More secure, both the domain and the address signature is verified. Tags can be independently verified if necessary and little moderation is needed.
You should only trust tags fetched via https, otherwise a man-in-the-middle could hijack the .json file and replace the address and signature.
True … sort of. I'd be more interested in such a man in the middle being found in the wild than that I fear the risk of it aka I consider https being optional should be fine. It could be marked in the list as extra feature. Also showing historic tags or at least the timestamp of when a tag changed would help to get people aware of potential issues.
1285  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WordPress.com accepts Bitcoins on: November 16, 2012, 05:40:17 PM

This is good news, but: How exactly is this target group supposed to get hold of bitcoins? Oh, right. There are no bitcoin exchanges in Kenya, Haiti, Cuba, or Iraq. I am not being sarcastic, but genuinely concerned about this problem.

Iraq: nothing
Kenya: https://localbitcoins.com/postal_code/ken/nairobi/9999/?unit=km&listing_amount=10&
Haiti: none
Cuba: none

1/4 this should give you some hope.

Wordpress!!! Guys, a blogger that tells his customers that they get an add free blog if they tip him, can get bitcoins by spreading the word! How awesome is that?

(yes, it has been implied earlier in this thread but some people seam to not read every single post in this awesome thread Grin )
1286  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Announcing the Bitcoin Kiez rollout on: November 16, 2012, 04:56:56 PM
The map of Real World Shops is filling in nicely in America and Europe.  Great job guys.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Real_world_shops

Unfortunately it's also being spammed by non-real-world shops aka every shop is a real world shop. Guess somebody will have to play wiki-nazi at some point. For now I will suggest some rules.
1287  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WordPress.com accepts Bitcoins on: November 16, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
Why are people so eager about reddit? Who cares? Reddit users know about bitcoin and it's a "small" geeky group anyway.

The Wordpress-move itself is more interesting for why they did it than the fact that they did it. The press release weighs 100x more than any news about stolen bitcoins and some pot heads buying on silkroad. If silkroad is a reason to fight bitcoin, freedom of speech is a reason to support it.

What exactly would reddit accepting bitcoin add to this other than being a follower?
1288  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WordPress.com accepts Bitcoins on: November 16, 2012, 04:12:43 AM
I don't remember. Who was next?

google.com
facebook.com
youtube.com
yahoo.com
baidu.com
wikipedia.org
live.com
twitter.com
qq.com
amazon.com
taobao.com
linkedin.com
blogspot.com
google.co.in
yahoo.co.jp
sina.com.cn
google.de
yandex.ru
msn.com
wordpress.com
google.com.hk
google.co.jp
bing.com
ebay.com
google.co.uk

Reddit?

My list is the alexa top 25 that was referred to in an interview by Tony. Reddit.com ranks at #132.

I'm sure, Tony will tell us tomorrow, who's next  Grin
1289  Bitcoin / Press / 2012-11-08 TEDxBologna: Network Society: The Coming Societal Phase Change on: November 16, 2012, 03:43:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxDnQK95GXE

This talk in Italian (with English subtitles) by David Orban. He describes his vision of a Network Society based on the the four pillars of decentralized energy production (massive solar power everywhere), decentralized food production (vertical farming), decentralized anything production (3D-printing) and decentralized money (Bitcoin).

Quote
The transition from a centralized management of finance to a distributed management of finance that is no longer dependent on decisions that we assume independent but which very often are politically influenced and instrumental can find an answer in mathematical innovation and technology applied to finance.
One example of which is Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a type of electronic money anonymous, secure and untraceable whose production is not in the hands of a central authority but is distributed.
1290  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-09-11 pcworld.com - Interest in BitCoin, Fledgling Electronic Currency, Gro on: November 16, 2012, 01:35:05 AM
Quote
BitPay is also in early discussions with three of the top 25 websites ranked by Alexa, which are testing BitPay's systems, he said.


Just takes one to get the party started.  Then it is just a matter of playing follow the leader.



Now we know his name  Grin
1291  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WordPress.com accepts Bitcoins on: November 16, 2012, 01:33:24 AM
I don't remember. Who was next?

google.com
facebook.com
youtube.com
yahoo.com
baidu.com
wikipedia.org
live.com
twitter.com
qq.com
amazon.com
taobao.com
linkedin.com
blogspot.com
google.co.in
yahoo.co.jp
sina.com.cn
google.de
yandex.ru
msn.com
wordpress.com
google.com.hk
google.co.jp
bing.com
ebay.com
google.co.uk
1292  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: 14. Münchner Bitcoin Treffen am Donnerstag den 25.10.2012 on: November 15, 2012, 06:48:50 PM
Wir brauchen auch endlich ein Bitcoin Restaurant in MUC! Hat jemand gute Verbindungen zu einer Kneipe?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124092

Wie wär's mit einem Pub-crawl auf dem ihr schamlos Kneipenbesitzer anhaut oder flyer verteilt? Oder einfach an alle Kneipen "Bitcoins accepted here" pappt? Wink
1293  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Announcing the Bitcoin Kiez rollout on: November 15, 2012, 06:46:52 PM
The new merchants all installed the Satoshi client on their laptops.

Make sure the clients are configured for outgoing communications only ( -nolisten ).  This is because knowing the IP address of the node, it becomes not terribly hard to perform a race attack to double spend.  And the way the Bitcioin.org client functions, the merchant might not even notice ... the transaction would just disappear as if it had never been made.

It might even be seen as a challenge by someone to be the first to pull off a race attack double spend against a bricks and mortar merchant.  If configured with -nolisten (and optionally, an outgoing connection made explicitly to a well-connected node), then the chance of a race attack succeeding is much much lower, to where the profit on the sale is likely orders of magnitude greater than any losses due to a race attack double spend.

Gnah, race attacks. I don't want to say they are not an issue at all but in this case I would say: "Please don't spread fud."

If people do this in a burgers place, they are known to the waiter and highly risk to get caught. If it actually happens in the wild, this will be good for the burger place, too as it's news and news is worth more than a burger's worth lost.
1294  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blockchain.info - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics on: November 15, 2012, 06:38:34 PM
- A new page specifically for submitting, up / down voting and reporting spam tags.
This would make most sense for you as this would be an incentive to open an account on blockchain.info. Up/Down-voting could be done by "donation" addresses which again would be good for you.
As long as you show the amount of donations as justification to rate something high, you should not be blamed for misrepresenting stuff and upon clear abuse you could close accounts or users and mark the tag as coming from a closed account. Showing tags from closed accounts last, only optionally or not at all would also be very clear to the user.

- Have an address that you can send a transaction to which contains a tag embedded within one of the scripts. This is abusing the blockchain a bit though.
As you said, this would be a very temporary thing and should be avoided for the sake of bitcoin.

- json file which you can upload to a webserver which will blockchain will index. Downside is you can't tag other people's addresses.
You would still need a way to get aware of these files. I see this approach as the most open one although people might be more careful with scam accusations due to the real world identities linked to their servers – which of course is good for your liability.
1295  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wikipedia: "Some criticize Bitcoin for being a Ponzi scheme..." on: November 14, 2012, 11:46:45 PM
I tried to make an edit to the talk page suggesting a change in wording that wouldn't attempt to remove the Ponzi scheme accusation but to clarify the text so that it didn't directly imply that Bitcoin *is* a Ponzi scheme.

But the page is locked so I needed to create an account

Which is a big pain in the butt. It took about 10 times to create an account since not only are duplicate IDs (hard to avoid) disallowed but also "too similar" user IDs.

Then new users don't get to make changes to locked pages unless they appeal (kinda like the newbie whitelist here)

So I appealed.

And I got denied and told to put my requested change on some page which didn't exist.

So I did.

I got blown off and told that I "wouldn't be a newbie long".

So I gave up.

I did hundreds of edits and dozens under my username that I forgot my password for. As more and more articles turned elite-only, I registered a new account that still has only 7 edits (5 in articles, 2 in talk pages discussing why my changes got reverted Wink ). Maybe I should edit some 3 more pages logged in? Are we that short in WP-users here?
1296  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wikipedia: "Some criticize Bitcoin for being a Ponzi scheme..." on: November 14, 2012, 03:26:35 PM
To all those whining about the state of Wikipedia: It's free and open to anybody to fork it. In your fork you can try to get along without a hierarchy of admins. In fact I'm sure it could be done better but it gets me mad when open projects get bashing. Do it better. Please.

The thing is that Wikipedia seems mechanically fine. It's robust and it seems to be bug-free. The problem is that some of the people involved are -- how do I put it nicely -- misguided.

Is that really enough reason to start again? Maybe so, but without delving into and trying to resolve the "people bugs", it seems that a fork could be doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

If it's less work to fix the people than to fork the thing, fix the people but don't whine all over the internetz about how bad wikipedia is. Some Wikipedia admins are very religious about the rules and you can always get more admins into the edit war.
1297  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wikipedia: "Some criticize Bitcoin for being a Ponzi scheme..." on: November 14, 2012, 02:11:56 AM
To all those whining about the state of Wikipedia: It's free and open to anybody to fork it. In your fork you can try to get along without a hierarchy of admins. In fact I'm sure it could be done better but it gets me mad when open projects get bashing. Do it better. Please.
1298  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Announcing the Bitcoin Kiez rollout on: November 13, 2012, 08:12:50 PM
Thumbs up. May the Kiez grow big.
1299  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blockchain.info - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics on: November 13, 2012, 06:54:23 PM
I'm happy you like the idea Smiley

People will know that tags can be bought easily. Show how much was paid for each of them.
Scammers will get scam-warning-tags just underneath – and you get money for that.
You could distribute the money paid for tags against your TOS to those that tagged the tag as scam.
If you charge a minimum fee for tagging, you can afford to moderate the tags.

If patrolling/taking responsibility for tags is not what you want to do, I suggest you do as follows:
Provide a tool to efficiently embed messages in the blockchain in combination with a payment to one of your addresses.
Provide a site that lists all these comments.

What about this... The owner of a website puts a file on their website called bitcoin_tags.json or something like that. This would server a similar purpose to sitemap.xml but instead contains a number of bitcoin addresses and labels.

For example http://wikileaks.org/bitcoin_tags.json

{
 "tags" : {
  "address" : "1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v",
  "tag" : "Donations",
  "sig" : "signature of concatenated tag and domain"
 }
}

Once the owner of a website has added the file they can suggest that blockchain.info indexes it, once indexed blockchain.info will display the new tag accordingly. This has the advantage of.

* maintainable, webmaster can update bitcoin_tags.json as they choose. Deadlinks will be removed from the database.
* Decentralised, any service can index tags.
* More secure, both the domain and the address signature is verified. Tags can be independently verified if necessary and little moderation is needed.

Not sure if I'm following you. http://fluxcards.de/bitcoin_tags.json now holds a signature of "http://fluxcards.de/testing tags" signed with the address in question.

I do agree this is a very safe way to get people identify their own addresses but my original idea was to have a way to also tag other addresses. Scammers will not give their own addresses a scammer tag. Many very public addresses scream to get indexed somehow but their owners won't host such a file. Yet I'm sure people would pay to enter addresses in some index.

I'm thinking about doing it myself but blockchain.info already has most things in place needed to implement such an index and it would definitely drive traffic to your site if the bitcoins paid to tag stuff is not enough of an incentive.
1300  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Wurm Online and CoinLab, making ingame money via mining on: November 12, 2012, 05:14:12 PM
Making wow gold with gpu would be stupid, the two games are totally different!

Who talked about "Making wow gold with gpu"? As I posted about WOW just above, I assume this is a reply to my post so allow me to elaborate:
I said:
To use the idle gamer cards to mine would have worked last year if WOW would have jumped on that bandwagon.
and I meant:
Bitcoin mining needsneeded GPUs. Gamers have GPUs. The biggest game is WOW. Blizzard finding some way to get their users to mine would have made sense and might have resulted in the biggest mining pool.
I did not say that this should have been used to directly create in-game wow gold.
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